Sunday, May 20, 2012

Jeff Lyons and Zack Gutin Transcript May 20, 2012

#Scriptchat TOPIC:

EURO: Jeff Lyons @storygeeks, founder of Storygeeks, talking about idea testing and what makes a story a story.
USA: Zack Gutin @zackgutin discusses the process of getting signed, taking generals and gearing up to have a first spec that goes out wide, and getting attachments.

Tweetreports is having technical difficulties, and I was unable to pull the complete transcript. Below is a copy and paste from Tweetchat of a portion of USA chat with Zack Gutin, as well as the Twitter feed of our EURO guest, Jeff Lyons. Please read them backwards, starting at the bottom. I will continue to work with Tweetreports and post the full transcript when it’s available. I apologize for the inconvenience. @jeannevb

EURO moderator: Teenie Russell @teenierussell
USA moderator: Jeanne Veillette Bowerman @jeannevb

EURO CHAT: posted only tweets from our guest Jeff Lyons (scroll down to the bottom and read backwards)

Thank you all at Scriptchat... had a blast :) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Thank you again :) #scriptchat
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3:59 PM - 20 May 12 via TweetChat · Details
6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

THANK YOU ALL... hope we can do this again :)))) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

@MartynPDWriter: thyank you for coming :) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

@teenierussell: No. not really ... premise is your story's structure in one line... summaries might include subplots, etc... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

... instead of being told they have to change all their characters to robots to get a sale... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

I know a ton of screenwriters who only do novels not... they can actually make money and get an audience who likes them #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Self-publishing is "soon" going to be as "legitamate" as tranditonal publishing... sooner than the pubs might want #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

@robinbellwriter:... No any more... the landscape has changed dramatically... it is getting more and more "legitimate" #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

or email: premisebook@storygeeks.com with your email :))) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Pls visit my homepae and if you want to sign up for an advance copy of my book "Anatomy of a Premise LIne" you can do so #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

That's why I'm working with both the film//tv and publishng worlds.... have to be in both places #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

@teenierussell: Exactly... you can't afford to... not in this marketplace #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

I can't believe we're almost done... i'm having too much fun... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

The revolution in publishing has changed the game for us all... in a good way... the publishing problem has been solved #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

... a good story. The Premise Line is your life line :)))) I'm repeating myself.... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

TaroJ: Yes... story is story... all the rest of it is whistles and bells.... you have to know story structure to tell ... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

You have to be in ebooks, graphic novels, videocasts... etc... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Writers can no longer just specialize in one thing... they have to be versitile to have a career... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

@TaroJ: Yes.... this is more and more a strategy being used by screenwriters... you almost have to do this now to get a deal... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

@teenierussell: Yes... having a book is almost essential now to make a sale... (something to think about) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

... I'm a huge fan of practice, practice, practice : http://bit.ly/oKL2vV #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

@matt_janacone : I AGREE... but it's not enough to be talented.... or heartfelt... you need craft as well... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

@TaroJ: Yes... it is (in my opinion) the most powerful tool a writer has in their toolbox... LEARN THIS THING! :) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Testing high concept is very importnat.. #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Here is a post of mine that talks about how to test your high concept: http://bit.ly/p8fiiW #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

The action is really in novel writing these days.... so you might consider that as a viable place to ply your trade :)))) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

teenierussell @robinbellwriter: How ironic :) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

I work a lot with novelists and agents want more than just a log line #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

If you are querying book agents just do a premise line. Log lines are more for the movie biz... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

robinbellwirter: HAAA #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

...you can embillish with a twist if you want, but it has to hold its integrity to be useful... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

The log line is not just a teaser... it has to capture your high concpet (hook)... that's it's primary function... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

There is no market for screenplays... so you have to be very strategic how you write and what you write... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

I am not a fan of writing groups or using friends.... see my post on this :) http://bit.ly/nNNHNu #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

... you need to bounce it off someone who's great with story... becasue it's about structure ... they need that skillset #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

It's not a good idea to waste time showing premise lines to friends, unless they are really good with story... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

See the difference between the two????? They are not the same thing.... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Jaws Log LIne: A monster shark terrorizes a small coastal town #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

until the shark strikes, thus forcing the townsfolk to allow the cop and his buddies to take on the shark mano-a-mano. #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

money-grubbing townsfolk to close their beaches due to a giant man-eating shark, #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

he must team with a crusty sailor and an oceanographer to convince the doubting, #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Jaws Premise line: When a big city-cop moves to a small coastal town dependent on tourism, #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

sure... hang on... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Premise line is your story's structure in a sentence (hard to get)...log line is your story's high concept in a short sentence #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

The premise is how you validate whether you have a story or soemthing else (situation, perdicament, etc.) #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

the premise is your entire story's structure in one sentence... this is why it is powerful...not just a pitch tool... #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

TaroJ: no... they are not the same thning... many people think they are #scriptchat
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6h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Protagonist, desire line, opposition, and a clear ending... all in one sentence #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

It has to give you the essence of your story's entire structure: #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

The permise line should not just capture the high concept of your story #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Tweenie: NO... here's how to know if your premise works: #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

There is a way to test for high concept that is very effective: #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

And... how do yu know if you have a high concept that will work? #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

So, what's the difference between a permise line and a log line (if you read my post on this don't answer :) ) #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

If you nail your premise line then you will know if you have a story worth telling and not just a situation or perdicament... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

The problematic words here are character and plot... what the heck are those? :) #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Story: The combination and interplay of character and plot that is a metaphor for a human experience. #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

MartynPDWriter: Yes... here's how I define a story: #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

It is your canary in the coal mine... not just a pitch tool #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

ONCE AGAIN: the premise line is your life line... most people have no idea the power of a premise line #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

... you need characters with moral problems, desire lines, opponents that make sense... you need STORYSTRUCTURE #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

If you want to tell stories and not just throw flashbombs at the audience... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

rosieclaverton: Exactly... so... what kind of storyteller do you want to be? That's the bottom line here... #scriptchat
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Matt_Janacone: Right.. .BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE CHARACTERS! There's the rub for non-stories... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

HatetheHate: Yes it is... and your point is? #scriptchat
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matt_janacone: Yes... which says something about what a story is vs a non-story... yes? #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

So... what is a story? That's my question to you... :) #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

storytelling and writing are not the same thing... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

HatetheHate: True... but story is story... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Having a story makes a huge difference... then fold in all the visuals... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

as a writer, what gives you and audiences the most for their buck ... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

But think about it... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Who of us wouldn't want a non-story blockbuster to our credit? #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Im not being judgemental about it... honest #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Geniuses... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Look to Steven Moffet and Russel T Davies... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

TV Series: great stuff.... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

The premise line is your first line of defense here... permise line is your life line #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

don't back into it like most most writers do #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

If it's a non-story... ok... not bad, not wrong.. but go into it consciously... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

it all comes down to what kind of script do you wnat to write #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Bad story... bad stortelling... lots of fun to watch #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Battlefield is a good example... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

But.. they can make a lot of money if the writing can transcend the bad storytelling... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

The non-story rules in Hollywood these day... (most days)... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

it may may a billion dollars at the box office anyway :) E.G. Cloverfield #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

If most of these are in play you don't have a story.. your show won't go past 1 episode and your movie will suck ... but #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

4. A predicament begins and ends in the same emotional space. #scriptchat
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3. A predicament has no subplots, twists, or complications. #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks
#2 A predicament does not reveal character; it mainly tests problem-solving skills. #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

#1:A predicament is a problem or predicament with an obvious and direct solution. #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

There are four conditions that tell you if you have a story vs. a scene or a situation or a perdicament... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Contagion... lots of fun...no story #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Lots of fun... no story... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

For example: Cloverfield... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Many stories are actually perdicaments or problems masqerading as stories #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

many writers think they have a story and they don't... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Idea Testing: first thing to test is whether you have a story or not... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

rosieclaverton: idea testing...huge issue... let me type a bit... this is a little involved... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

MartynPDWriter waves back :) #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Thank you for having me... and let me thank Julie Gray (if ur out there) who made this conneciton for me... :) #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Hi Taroj #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

I have quite a lag on my end... so bear with me... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

Hello All... #scriptchat
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7h Jeff Lyons ‏@Storygeeks

I'm heeeerrrr.... :) #scriptchat
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USA CHAT: (scroll down to the bottom and read backwards)

scriptchat Tonight's #Scriptchat Transcript will be delayed. @tweetreports is having technical issues. Will keep you posted! -9:34 PM May 20th, 2012
   
fatone RT @ozzywood: "screenwriters are going to have to be prepared": on the Death of Movies http://t.co/6EVPnYT2 #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:34 PM May 20th, 2012
   
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McSwainandBeck RT @ozzywood: Joss Whedon wants more female superheroes in the next Avengers http://t.co/mkAGd6Cn #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:32 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Joss Whedon wants more female superheroes in the next Avengers http://t.co/mkAGd6Cn #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:30 PM May 20th, 2012
   
EllieTr RT "@KimAleksander: Enjoy a writer's 'Master class' http://t.co/pwND5jaH by best-selling author, Ken Follett." #writechat #scriptchat -9:28 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JVsays Really? "screenwriters are going to have to be prepared" on the Death of Movies http://t.co/vxF0GUMO #screenwriting #scriptchat @ozzywood -9:27 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone 1 out of how many do you think are writers? Just curious. #scriptchat #writing #thewritinglife -9:27 PM May 20th, 2012
   
angegunn RT @jeannevb: Balls of Steel: Dear New Screenwriter, I write a letter to my 2004 less-experienced self http://t.co/jzjorzlu #scriptchat -9:25 PM May 20th, 2012
   
deepvisionimage RT @ozzywood: ‘Avengers’: Joss Whedon talks sequel, ‘Buffy’ and ‘X-Men’ parallels http://t.co/24mdqhK4 #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:24 PM May 20th, 2012
   
LifesizeLD RT @jeannevb: Balls of Steel: Dear New Screenwriter,... a letter to my 2004 less-experienced self http://t.co/2pWxSA5e #scriptchat -9:24 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood ‘Avengers’: Joss Whedon talks sequel, ‘Buffy’ and ‘X-Men’ parallels http://t.co/24mdqhK4 #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:23 PM May 20th, 2012
   
LifesizeLD My DP Hubby just stepped outside, looked around with awe, and observed that the eclipse, "looks like a poorly-lit set." #scriptchat -9:23 PM May 20th, 2012
   
mmaren RT @jeannevb: Balls of Steel: Dear New Screenwriter, I write a letter to my 2004 less-experienced self http://t.co/HSPa2gne #scriptchat -9:23 PM May 20th, 2012
   
robertropars RT @ozzywood: See Pixar characters cosplay as the Avengers http://t.co/RujF53Jv #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:21 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood See Pixar characters cosplay as the Avengers http://t.co/RujF53Jv #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:20 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb Balls of Steel: Dear New Screenwriter, I write a letter to my 2004 less-experienced self http://t.co/jzjorzlu #scriptchat -9:19 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JasonFararooei RT @ozzywood: Cannes 2012 Review: No Love for Michael Haneke's 'Love' ('Amour') http://t.co/BE4IURRz #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:17 PM May 20th, 2012
   
denbyweller RT @ozzywood: Ridley Scott talks Blade Runner http://t.co/yOmL3l7u #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:17 PM May 20th, 2012
   
denbyweller RT @ozzywood: Girls on film: how Tim Burton finally got his vamp right http://t.co/DiDT2j7n #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:17 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Girls on film: how Tim Burton finally got his vamp right http://t.co/4n7k864U #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:16 PM May 20th, 2012
   
MBDymension Is it best to have a screenplay copyright, register it with wga, or both? #scriptchat -9:16 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone Writing works like everything else - #practice , #revisions make perfect. #scriptchat #writing #thewritinglife -9:15 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Ridley Scott talks Blade Runner http://t.co/gSUSzhjT #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:14 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Written Interview: Gary Ross (“The Hunger Games”) | Go Into The Story http://t.co/F1My4mvj #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:14 PM May 20th, 2012
   
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ozzywood Cannes 2012 Review: No Love for Michael Haneke's 'Love' ('Amour') http://t.co/BE4IURRz #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:13 PM May 20th, 2012
   
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ozzywood "The story starts when the script starts." http://t.co/tHSduLVE #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:11 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood All About Flashbacks http://t.co/yNmP0KBH #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:10 PM May 20th, 2012
   
Phelam RT @ozzywood: "screenwriters are going to have to be prepared": on the Death of Movies http://t.co/6EVPnYT2 #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:10 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA 2 beers & #scriptchat finished. Time to start #writing for the night. Thnx to fire lit under arse by @zackgutin #amwriting #FINAO -9:10 PM May 20th, 2012
   
deepvisionimage RT @ozzywood: Sometimes You Are in the Wrong Story - Complications Ensue http://t.co/dw27XoTt #scriptchat #amwriting #screenwriting -9:09 PM May 20th, 2012
   
LifesizeLD CUThere! RT @jeannevb: Hope you're all coming to @ThePitchFest - #scriptchat gets $50 DISCOUNT! http://t.co/IYcfRQSN #GAPF -9:09 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood "screenwriters are going to have to be prepared": on the Death of Movies http://t.co/6EVPnYT2 #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:09 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb Hope you're all coming to @ThePitchFest - #scriptchat gets $50 DISCOUNT! http://t.co/R5iR0sha -9:08 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone I was told that the perfect length of a #script is 105 pages or the 'sweet spot'. #scriptchat #thewritinglife -9:07 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Slick new Harry Potter web series takes place in New York City! http://t.co/5w3FYNjj #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:07 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb *smooches* thx, Zack! RT @zackgutin: Thanks, everyone! Feel free to @ reply with any other questions that come up later! Bye! #scriptchat -9:06 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Alex Proyas in Talks to Co-Write and Direct 'Gods of Egypt' Adventure http://t.co/Tgn5CTBL #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -9:06 PM May 20th, 2012
   
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chasffisher @stuwillis Completely agree, but you have to do VERY well to make an unlikeable character compelling. #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 20th, 2012
   
WriteCoachKiki Great fun + I admire your hard work,persistence & ambition.Inspiring.RT @zackgutin: @WriteCoachKiki youre welcome - thank you!!! #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 20th, 2012
   
rjlackie RT @ozzywood: Sometimes You Are in the Wrong Story - Complications Ensue http://t.co/dw27XoTt #scriptchat #amwriting #screenwriting -9:04 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin Thanks, everyone! Feel free to @ reply with any other questions that come up later! Bye! #scriptchat -9:04 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood @zackgutin thanks, zack! i'm virtually clinking your virtual glass... virtually. cheers! #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb Thx all for a great chat. @zackgutin ROCKED IT! Will grab transcript in a bit and tweet out link #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA RT @zackgutin: @jeannevb thank you!!!! This was awesome. Happy writing work harder than everyone &youll have nothing 2 regret! #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb RT @kim_garland: Hey #scriptchat I'll be the guest on @XionEntertainment's #FilmIndu chat (as in Film Industry) talking making of #VivienneAgain! Wed 7pm EDT -9:03 PM May 20th, 2012
   
KimBergie @zackgutin @jeannevb Thanks to you both...great #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 20th, 2012
   
IngridElkner @zackgutin Cheers for the chat, Zack. Good luck with everything! #scriptchat -9:03 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood word 'o wisdom. RT @BeauhemianKat: RT @zackgutin: Want to be a great writer? 1) Read lots of scripts 2) write every single day #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
stacy_chambers Thanks for the chat, Zack. Great info! #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @SarahAlexis4 thanks and great questions! #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
angegunn RT @zackgutin: @anniewood yes, gotta be organized and efficient - treat writing like any other business #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @art1032 thanks! #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
BillieJeanVK @zackgutin @AndreaLMcNeill Interesting. I could see that. #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
AndreaLMcNeill @zackgutin Dude! You were so helpful. Thanks for your benevolence. Drinks soon! #scriptchatmeetup #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @jeannevb thank you!!!! This was awesome. Happy writing - work harder than everyone and you'll have nothing to regret!!! #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
rebelshea @zackgutin Thanks for the chat. Great stuff. #scriptchat -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
kim_garland Hey #scriptchat I'll be the guest on @XionEntertainment's #FilmIndu chat (as in Film Industry) talking making of #VivienneAgain! Wed 7pm EDT -9:02 PM May 20th, 2012
   
SarahAlexis4 @Zackgutin Thanks so much for being a guest and sharing your insights with us. Best of luck on all your projects! #scriptchat -9:01 PM May 20th, 2012
   
art1032 Thanks @zackgutin and #scriptchat Wealth of info as usual!:) -9:01 PM May 20th, 2012
   
BeauhemianKat RT @zackgutin: Want to be a great writer? 1) Read lots of scripts 2) write every single day #scriptchat -9:01 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @WriteCoachKiki you're welcome - thank you!!! #scriptchat -9:01 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone @jeannevb I started a cleaning business to work around my writing schedule. #scriptchat #writing #thewritinglife -9:01 PM May 20th, 2012
   
kim_garland Awesome chat, @zackgutin! I copied and pasted many tweets to Post-it but will also re-read transcript. Great info, thanks! xo #scriptchat -9:00 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @anniewood yes, gotta be organized and efficient - treat writing like any other business #scriptchat -9:00 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb My tweetchat is stuck, and it's the bewitching hour. THANK YOU SO MUCH @zackgutin for being our guest tonight! #scriptchat -9:00 PM May 20th, 2012
   
IanTopple @anniewood Good question #scriptchat -9:00 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @TheLoneOlive hahaha, or lack of wardrobe! #scriptchat -9:00 PM May 20th, 2012
   
WriteCoachKiki @zackgutin Thanks for a great chat! :) #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA RT @TheLoneOlive: a great #scriptchat w/ @zackgutin who talked industry news & wardrobe #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @SarahAlexis4 to think big - studios and networks want something that has a chance for a big life, not that will fade away #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood @zackgutin do you always outline? #scriptchat -8:59 PM May 20th, 2012
   
LifesizeLD Hey #Scriptchat! Just in from meeting/helping Signe and Bob with #GAPF prep. Cool Folks! What'd I miss? -8:59 PM May 20th, 2012
   
TheLoneOlive a great #scriptchat w/ @zackgutin who talked industry news & wardrobe -8:58 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @AndreaLMcNeill nope, just that unless it's one of 2-3 top directors, it doesn't help sell it - even if they are pretty big #scriptchat -8:58 PM May 20th, 2012
   
IngridElkner @zackgutin What method do you employ when wanting to write a spec? #scriptchat -8:58 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Screenwriter Aaron Sorkin to Adapt Steve Jobs Biopic - The Movie Blog http://t.co/3bYACJ9J #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -8:56 PM May 20th, 2012
   
KimBergie RT @jeannevb: @zackgutin Any tips on writing scripts when you have a full-time job? #scriptchat -8:56 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @IngridElkner no, I stopped after a couple years because I knew I wanted to write and needed those hours back to pursue it #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 20th, 2012
   
IanTopple @zackgutin How long does it take you to finish writing a screenplay? #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 RT @zackgutin: Want to be a great writer? 1) Read lots of scripts 2) write every single day #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 20th, 2012
   
AndreaLMcNeill To not get a director who is noteworthy. Does that mean, don't get someone who will over power your project? #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood @zackgutin :) #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 20th, 2012
   
TheLoneOlive RT @zackgutin: Want to be a great writer? 1) Read lots of scripts 2) write every single day #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @zackgutin Any tips on writing scripts when you have a full-time job? #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 20th, 2012
   
SarahAlexis4 @Zackgutin Q: Can you share the best piece of practical advice they've given or lesson you've learned from working with them? #scriptchat -8:55 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA RT @anniewood: @zackgutin wow. that is fanfreakintastic. #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @anniewood oh my lord. The hottest type! #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 20th, 2012
   
rickbata @IngridElkner (Just looked) Yes you are! That is awesome. Very good points indeed. #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood @zackgutin wow. that is fanfreakintastic. #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Let's write the sequel to Battleship based on some crap I found on my kitchen table http://t.co/7Uq06BUB #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -8:54 PM May 20th, 2012
   
IngridElkner @zackgutin Do you still do any stand-up? #scriptchat -8:54 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @zackgutin no attaching any talent at all? #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 20th, 2012
   
BillieJeanVK @zackgutin @jeannevb Wow that is unexpected. #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 20th, 2012
   
angegunn RT @zackgutin: @jeannevb YES! To not attach a director who is noteworthy. You want a spec to come w/o baggage if possible... #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA RT @zackgutin: @jeannevb YES! To not attach a director who is noteworthy. You want a spec to come w/o baggage if possible... #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 20th, 2012
   
rickbata Great info today @zackgutin. Thank you! #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood @zackgutin i used to be a jäger girl. so, i guess i was a pusher to bring out the crazy. #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @anniewood I write about 6 hours a day #scriptchat -8:53 PM May 20th, 2012
   
2degreesofalie Hi #Scriptchat! -8:52 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @jeannevb YES! To not attach a director who is noteworthy. You want a spec to come w/o baggage if possible... #scriptchat -8:52 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @anniewood loooooove jäger! I call it "liquid violence" cause it makes people crazy #scriptchat -8:51 PM May 20th, 2012
   
IngridElkner @rickbata I'm outside Hollywood (outside the US!) so I'm looking at making the most of the local market, easier to get jobs). #scriptchat -8:51 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood @zackgutin what's your routine, if you have one. a certain number of hours of writing per day? morn? eve? when the mood strikes? #scriptchat -8:51 PM May 20th, 2012
   
SarahAlexis4 @Zackgutin Q: Have you been up for assignments? If so, any thoughts on prepping your take for one & those types of meetings? #scriptchat -8:51 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA Bartender! Another round for our guest please. @jeannevb #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @zackgutin have u been surprised by anything the mgr has asked of you yet... or surprising advice they've given? #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @AndreaLMcNeill used to use donedealpro, now deadline mainly. I approached them yrs ago and they kept eyes on me #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood @zackgutin cool. Jäger and soda for me. :) #scriptchat -8:50 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone If you think you've written a perfect #firstdraft , imagine what #revisions will do!!! #scriptchat #writing #thewritinglife -8:50 PM May 20th, 2012
   
rickbata @IngridElkner Excellent point. Been writing movies for years. Just recently finished my first TV spec. Love doing both. Choices! #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 RT @zackgutin: @anniewood jack and diet! #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @anniewood jack and diet! #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA RT @art1032: FYI #scriptchat is ALWAYS sponge-worthy . #justsayin #scriptchat -8:49 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone If you don't enjoy or are not willing to do #revisions, you won't make it as a writer. #scriptchat #writing #thewritinglife -8:48 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @nisajaie definitely closer, but the action is here. If you wanna work on Wall St, your office needs to be in NY. Same deal. #scriptchat -8:48 PM May 20th, 2012
    
ozzywood Video Interview: John Michael Hayes (“Rear Window”) | Go Into The Story http://t.co/crDbaHo6 #screenwriting #scriptchat #botw -8:48 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA RT @kim_garland: If youre a screenwriter, tonights #scriptchat transcript will be a must-read! Guest @zackgutin is rocking it! #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @GREGBIELA you gave me a great setup *curtsy* ;) #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 20th, 2012
   
CassidyMcM RT @jeannevb: This chat is flying by-only 14mins left to pick the great @zackgutins brain on breaking in,taking mtgs &having mgr #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 20th, 2012
   
AndreaLMcNeill @zackgutin Which resource do you use to track those sales? Did you approach them (Kaplan/Perrone)? How long did u court? #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 20th, 2012
   
kim_garland If you're a screenwriter, tonight's #scriptchat transcript will be a must-read! Guest @zackgutin is rocking it! -8:47 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @AndreaLMcNeill ... At my earlier stuff and encouraging me. I had 4 options, all top tier, KPE knows what I wants best #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 20th, 2012
   
art1032 FYI #scriptchat is ALWAYS sponge-worthy . #justsayin -8:47 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA @jeannevb Very well played... #scriptchat -8:47 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone Sometimes the best way to deal with #writersblock is to stop writing, get up and do something else. #scriptchat #writing #thewritinglife -8:46 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb This chat is flying by... only 14 more min left to pick the great @zackgutin's brain on breaking in, taking mtgs & having mgr #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 @jeannevb @GREGBIELA That was funny #scriptchat perfect timing -8:46 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA RT @zackgutin: @AndreaLMcNeill I just think comedy can be done in so many diff ways and there is room for a new comedy force #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 20th, 2012
   
nisajaie @zackgutin How about writers in San Diego? Are we close enough? Or do we still have to make that move? #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @AndreaLMcNeill I follow spec sales religiously and Kaplan/Perrone is arguably the best. They also kept looking at my... #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @GREGBIELA couldn't resist ;) @JAEL488 #scriptchat -8:46 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA @KimBergie I now have the Spong Bob theme song ruinning in my head... #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 RT @zackgutin: @AndreaLMcNeill I just think comedy can be done in so many diff ways and there is room for a new comedy force #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 @KimBergie @GREGBIELA Hey Kim #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 20th, 2012
   
anniewood @zackgutin BTW, watcha drinkin'? #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @AndreaLMcNeill I just think comedy can be done in so many diff ways and there is room for a new comedy force #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 20th, 2012
   
IngridElkner @rickbata Depends on if you want to write TV or film. TV you gotta be in LA, film it can be advantageous to live outside LA. #scriptchat -8:45 PM May 20th, 2012
   
nisajaie @AndreaLMcNeill @zackgutin That is a great question. How do you know if that relationship is going to be the right one? #scriptchat -8:44 PM May 20th, 2012
   
KimBergie @JAEL488 @GREGBIELA Hey, fellow sponges. ;o) #scriptchat -8:44 PM May 20th, 2012
   
angegunn It's Sunday. 45 mins pas 5pm PST. That means it's #scriptchat time! with @zackgutin -8:44 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone I love it when I get that funny look after I tell someone I'm a writer. #scriptchat #writing #thewritinglife -8:44 PM May 20th, 2012
   
rebelshea @rickbata That's the same exact position I'm in. #scriptchat -8:44 PM May 20th, 2012
   
nisajaie RT @jeannevb: Prediction: I'll be doing a #ballsofsteel piece on @zackgutin's breakout career #hustler #scriptchat -8:44 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA LOL jeannevb: #Scriptchat is sponge-worthy ;) #Seinfeld RT @GREGBIELA: @JAEL488 Being a sponge here @ #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @zackgutin so would I ;) #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JennaAvery Neat! RT @jeannevb: Prediction: I'll be doing a #ballsofsteel piece on @zackgutin's breakout career #hustler #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb #Scriptchat is sponge-worthy ;) #Seinfeld RT @GREGBIELA: @JAEL488 Being a sponge here @ #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 20th, 2012
   
rickbata @zackgutin Totally makes sense. I'm pretty sure I will eventually have to make the move. Will just need to convince the wife.:) #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @jeannevb I would be so so so honored #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 20th, 2012
   
AndreaLMcNeill @zackgutin Why THAT mgr? How did you know they were right? Did you have a lot of choices?They believed in ur vision. #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 20th, 2012
   
nisajaie @BillieJeanVK Yea. But I was having problems with twitter, FB and my blog. So I had a problem on top of another problem. Lol. #scriptchat -8:43 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 @GREGBIELA Ditto #scriptchat soaking it all in -8:42 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @RobertKosberg is that really you Kosberg? My buddy!!!! #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 20th, 2012
   
BillieJeanVK @AndreaLMcNeill Love the way you're not afriad to ask for clarification. I'm so busy trying to keep up I just go w what I assume #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA @JAEL488 Being a sponge here @ #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb Prediction: I'll be doing a #ballsofsteel piece on @zackgutin's breakout career #hustler #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 20th, 2012
   
nisajaie @jeannevb Thanks. :) #scriptchat -8:42 PM May 20th, 2012
   
AndreaLMcNeill @zackgutin What's your demographic and how did you decide to think that way, so big. It's great. I love it. Ballsy. #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @SarahAlexis4 varies so much - sometimes Im writing and we don't talk for 2 weeks, sometimes we talk/text email all day long #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 @GREGBIELA What's going on brother? #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA RT @zackgutin: @AndreaLMcNeill franchises - not just characters - think Monty Python or National Lampoons but bigger/broader #scriptchat -8:41 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @AndreaLMcNeill franchises - not just characters - think Monty Python or National Lampoons but bigger/broader #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb It's the only way to survive RT @zackgutin: @jeannevb I'm a #hustler in the most aggressive sense of the word #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GREGBIELA @JAEL488 What up Vince! #scriptchat -8:40 PM May 20th, 2012
   
GeoffBreedwell RT @RexPickett: #Writing #Scriptchat: Write the films u want 2 c, the novels u want to read, not the ones you imagine they want to see & read respectively. -8:40 PM May 20th, 2012
   
SarahAlexis4 @Zackgutin Q: Just out of curiosity, generally how often do you talk w/ your managers, whether a mtg or phone or e-mail? #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 20th, 2012
   
BillieJeanVK @nisajaie It's not just you. Everyone's #scriptchat is loading slow. -8:39 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @jeannevb I'm a #hustler in the most aggressive sense of the word #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone In 5 years I've written 10 #scripts. Still learning, improving. #scriptchat #writing #thewritinglife -8:39 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @nisajaie hopefully the transcript site will work & u can catch up later :) #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 Hey guys #scriptchat -8:39 PM May 20th, 2012
   
angegunn RT @matt_janacone: Writing is more than just a job - even more than a career. Its a way of life + state of mind! #scriptchat #writing -8:38 PM May 20th, 2012
   
AndreaLMcNeill @zackgutin What do you mean by "massively branded"? #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @rickbata definitely makes it harder because relationships are so crucial, so write a lot and try to build that network afar #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 20th, 2012
   
JAEL488 RT @jeannevb: YO #screenwriters: we're talking to @zackgutin over at #scriptchat RIGHT NOW... come on in! http://t.co/WOwVFNdL #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb Thx http://t.co/Mlg69Xhv MT @BillieJeanVK: @rickbata Id recommend @jeannevbs webinar on screenwriter living outside of HW. #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 20th, 2012
   
nisajaie RT @jeannevb: YO #screenwriters: we're talking to @zackgutin over at #scriptchat RIGHT NOW... come on in! http://t.co/WOwVFNdL #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 20th, 2012
   
kim_garland Haha, nice. ;) RT @jeannevb: @zackgutin I'm pouring you a double shot for that ;) #hustler #scriptchat -8:38 PM May 20th, 2012
   
nisajaie Sorry guys. My internet is still being mean to me. I have missed most of the chat. #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @AndreaLMcNeill no, totally original - that's what networks want - original, but relatable #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @zackgutin I'm pouring you a double shot for that ;) #hustler #scriptchat -8:37 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone Writing is more than just a job - even more than a career. It's a way of life + state of mind! #scriptchat #writing -8:37 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @jeannevb correct, my senior year of college I would do classes, internship and take a grey hound bus to do standup on wknds #scriptchat -8:36 PM May 20th, 2012
   
AndreaLMcNeill @zackgutin Was the pilot inspired by another show/network? Does that work? #scriptchat -8:36 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @SarahAlexis4 ... Is trying to get me that first huge job that could help me launch of all, so he helps steer it for sure #scriptchat -8:36 PM May 20th, 2012
   
BillieJeanVK @rickbata @zackgutin I'd recommend @jeannevb's webinar on being a screenwriter living outside of Hollywood. #scriptchat -8:35 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone SHOW VS. TELL - know the difference and you can write #screenplays #scriptchat #writing -8:35 PM May 20th, 2012
   
UniversalCrush RT @ozzywood: Sometimes You Are in the Wrong Story - Complications Ensue http://t.co/dw27XoTt #scriptchat #amwriting #screenwriting -8:35 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb fyi @zackgutin was also an intern at @scriptmag...was it 2004 u started there, Zack? #workingithard #longtimewriter #scriptchat -8:35 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @SarahAlexis4 I'm very ambitious that way - I aspire to develop massively branded, multi platform comedy. My mgr... #scriptchat -8:35 PM May 20th, 2012
   
ozzywood Sometimes You Are in the Wrong Story - Complications Ensue http://t.co/dw27XoTt #scriptchat #amwriting #screenwriting -8:34 PM May 20th, 2012
   
Madskiadrai @zackgutin Thanks! #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @zackgutin wrote pilot and show bible - but the bible hardly mattered until we got closer. The script does the talking. #scriptchat -8:34 PM May 20th, 2012
   
matt_janacone Out of every 10 #queryletters I've sent out, 1agent would request samplechapters. #scriptchat #writing -8:33 PM May 20th, 2012
   
SarahAlexis4 @Zackgutin Q: How does your manager help you dev. your brand as a writer? What's the discussion like when picking projects? #scriptchat -8:33 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @art1032 I started doing stand up and writing/making short films at 19, while still in college. Wrote first feature at 21 #scriptchat -8:33 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb RT @zackgutin: @jeannevb I think access to scripts is the most important thing I got fr FD (which is why asst jobs can be good) #scriptchat -8:33 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @Madskiadrai sure - or there are several others. However you can get it, do it! #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 20th, 2012
   
AndreaLMcNeill @zackgutin RE the TV Pilot: Did you just write one script or did you plan out the season in some way? #scriptchat -8:32 PM May 20th, 2012
   
IngridElkner @zackgutin After all you've done, you're a baby writer at 29? I'm 29 too and feeling very underachieved about now... haha #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 20th, 2012
   
jeannevb @zackgutin u may be a "baby" but you rock at what u do. The webinars u do for FD are fantastic. #pro http://t.co/vvZh6hIY #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 20th, 2012
   
zackgutin @jeannevb I think access to scripts is the most important thing I got from FD (which is why asst jobs can be good) #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 20th, 2012
   
art1032 @zackgutin Q How long have you been writing ? Sinc your a young-in and all:) #scriptchat -8:31 PM May 20th, 2012

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