Sunday, June 23, 2013

Transcript Euro Scriptchat with Julie Gray and Lucy V. Hay - 23rd of June 2013

Euro Scriptchat was joined by Julie Gray and Lucy V. Hay as they talked about Script Editing. It's a great insight into the industry and tips on what to avoid in your writing.

You can also read it in Storify

Moderators: Teenie Russell @teenierussell and Taro Russell @TaroJ





Teenie Russell@teenierussell
It's #scriptchat O'CLOCK!!! Join us as we chat to two amazing guests @Julie_Gray and @Bang2write!

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
If you haven't already, make sure to check out their fantastic Bios here - bit.ly/17ntSwT #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Hi Teenie, hi everybody! #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@teenierussell @Julie_Gray hey! Thanks for having me :)#scriptchat

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Gordondon@Gordondon
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write Hello. What would you say is the most common mistake you pick up on whilst editing scripts? #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write Welcome and thank you for joining us as guests tonight! #scriptchat

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Gordondon@Gordondon
Hi everybody #scriptchat

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Ngaire Genge@AllInky
Euro chat #scriptchat soon!

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray hey Julie, you in your Wonder Woman costume yet? LOL #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Most common mistake? Dense action lines. #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
Let's get this started, make yourselves a drink and fire away your questions to our guests #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Gordondon wow, hi! You're quick off the mark :D @Julie_Gray - do you wanna start? #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write All set - you?! #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Sounds good! #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Gordondon yes, totally agree with @Julie_Gray - overdescribing on scene description SO common #scriptchat

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TheNorthernScribbler@sarahcassidy
Do you think scriptwriting courses are a worthwhile investment? Or are text books better? #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@Gordondon hi there :-) #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray I decided to go with the X Men movie style cat suit, nky yet practical haha #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
2nd most common (imo) 2 dimensional characters #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@sarahcassidy I think everyone makes their own path; I don't think there's a "better" or "best" one, TBH #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
it depends on how you learn best; self directed or in a group#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@sarahcassidy ... my BA (Hons) stood me in good stead, but then I went before social media etc, maybe I'd do it differently now#scriptchat

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Vicky Hinault@vickyhinault
Hi all #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
For those who haven't had a chance to work with a script ed., what is the role of a script editor? #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
I say mix it up - take a class now and again - it's good to elbow rub!#scriptchat

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Scott Myers@GoIntoTheStory
June is 30 Days of Screenplays, Day 23: "Pan's Labyrinth"bit.ly/172HJVz #scriptchat #screenwriting #movies

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Everything from catching small errors to story help to therapy :)#scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@vickyhinault Hello! #scriptchat

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Craig Warren@CraigNotCreg
As an unknown without an agent, is there any chance I'll sell my script to a large production company? #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray for me, plot is probably the 2nd most serious issue - rarely see specs that make sense all way thru, esp features#scriptchat

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simon meacock@SimonMeacock
@Bang2write @Julie_Gray @teenierussell Evening all #scriptchat

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Debra Eckerling@WriteOnOnline
Writers, how did everyone do on their goals this week?facebook.com/writeononline #writeon #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Agree @bang2write; under developed/thought premise is a big problem. #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@SimonMeacock hello Simon #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
Yes echoing what @Julie_Gray says: a lot of my job is moral support, facilitating writers' fragile egos as much as story#scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@Julie_Gray I always feel like I'm skewing the page count if I cover a minute's action in 3 lines. What are your thoughts?#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Hi Simon! #scriptchat

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simon meacock@SimonMeacock
@Julie_Gray Hi Julie. What's your definition of a 2 dimensional character? #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@CraigNotCreg as I always say: anything is possible. But you need a strategy and to review your end goal #scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
Hi, how do you go about giving notes, are there various levels depending on the fee or client? #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
characters w/o flaws, backstory, achievable goals = 2 dimensional#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@owaingillard think of one page as one minute. #scriptchat

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Vicky Hinault@vickyhinault
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write What pro feature screenplay would you say is a shining example of someone doing all the right things?#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@owaingillard re: overdescribing you don't have to rush, it's not either/or; I'm a big fan of "Vertical Writing" @Julie_Gray#scriptchat

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Farah Abushwesha@farahabushwesha
@CraigNotCreglook at the production cos websites & their submission reqs. RED PRODUCTIONS take unsolicited hard copies. #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@taroj I give the same quality of notes no matter what; more expense = more pages and time is the only difference. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@owaingillard @Julie_Gray Here's a great link on making#screenplays "vertical": bit.ly/QKOZPK #scriptchat

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BAFTA Rocliffe Forum@rocliffeforum
For Writers our 10 tips on creating an online presencebit.ly/192X612 learn more about networking online #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@vickyhinault that's such a hard question - SO MANY great pro scripts!! American Beauty is one of my favorites. #scriptchat

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Craig Warren@CraigNotCreg
@Bang2write What is the best resource to learn about strategy? Thanks! #scriptchat

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simon meacock@SimonMeacock
@Julie_Gray So characters who aren't "real" human beings with all the complexities that that entails. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@vickyhinault @Julie_Gray I love ALIEN, THELMA & LOUISE as "classic" #screenplays. My collaborator @jkamalou always writes well #scriptchat

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Vicky Hinault@vickyhinault
@Julie_Gray Cool, I've not read that actually so I will add it to my list. Thanks! :-) #scriptchat

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Farah Abushwesha@farahabushwesha
Hi all! @Bang2write @Julie_Gray @teenierussell #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@simonmeacock - exactly. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@TaroJ it depends what people book me for, TBH. Some ppl want to direct me; others want to be directed #scriptchat

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Farah Abushwesha@farahabushwesha
@TaroJ #scriptchat hi

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@Julie_Gray That's my point. 1 minute of action = 1 page of action = dense action lines. How is it resolved? #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@CraigNotCreg I learnt a lot from self help books and positive thinking websites like @marcandangel, TBH. Lots out there#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@CraigNotCreg you may also like @livingspiritpix's websitechrisjonesblog.com & his Guerilla Filmmaker Masterclass#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@owaingillard - write action lines as you would write haiku; fewest words with the MOST impact #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@farahabushwesha Hi Farah x #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@owaingillard @Julie_Gray with brilliant storytelling via scene description ... @wcmartell nails it here: bit.ly/P8iCvv #scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@Julie_Gray But then couldn't you end up with an 80 page script for a 2 hour film? #scriptchat

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Farah Abushwesha@farahabushwesha
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write #scriptchat what is the hardest piece of advice you've had to give a writer?

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
choose your words as a surgeon chooses his scalpel when writing action lines. And go for the jugular! #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
UGH @farahbushwesha I hate telling a writer that the entire premise is not working. It's heartbreaking. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@owaingillard @Julie_Gray 80 pages is not necessarily a bad thing, TBH; think our film was about 85 pgs when we shot it#scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
What's the difference between a script editor and a script reader?#scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@Bang2write Thanks - I'm struggling to catch up with all your advice, Lucy! @Julie_Gray @wcmartell #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Shoot for 100 pages. That's a golden number. No less than 95, not more than 120. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@farahabushwesha I think it's trying to make writers believe in themselves. It can be so sad sometimes, they can get so defeated#scriptchat

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David John Jones@davidjohnjones
@Julie_Gray Yes, agree, 3 lines for action lines is enough, 4 lines is pushing it, any more than 4 and writing too much. #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
80 pages in Hollywood for a spec feature script would defo be considered wanting. #scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
@owaingillard @Julie_Gray Page a min is great guide but doesn't always work. If you can do a read through with actors big help#scriptchat

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Farah Abushwesha@farahabushwesha
@Julie_Gray @farahbushwesha I agree but would you think it is kinder not to tell them? #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray think this is where UK vs US splinters off - 80-90 pages better for us, but we're dealing with much smaller budgets#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
A script reader works for a studio or production company and gives a short summary and analysis only. No help. Just notes#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
script editors (or consultants) read, analyze and TEACH YOU how to do better. #scriptchat

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Marilyn Horowitz@marilynhorowitz
Want to finish your screenplay by fall? Learn how in my webinar (ow.ly/m7uUJ). #scriptchat members may find this interesting

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Andrés Serrato H.@Palestrapublica
@Bang2write what advice would you give to a writer outside of UK or USA? #scriptchat

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Farah Abushwesha@farahabushwesha
@Bang2write isn't it part of a writer's journey to take the knocks with the highs? #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@teenierussell script reader = assessment (often £ is involved, ie. who gets it). Script editor = development (story, chrs etc)#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@bang2write - yes, definite splinter there. US scripts - 100 pages is the median expectation, definitely. #scriptchat

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Stephanie Ancell@stephanieancell
We also have different paper sizes in the UK (A4 vs US letter) which makes a difference to the overall page count. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@farahabushwesha yes, agree with @Julie_Gray - having to tell a writer the premise is not working can be devastating #scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
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Michelle Goode@Sofluid
@sarahcassidy Depends on what individual is after - personally, I'm entirely self-taught thru short courses, reading & doing :)#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@rabbitandcrow - no, we don't call them script editors in the US. Script doctors, script consultants, etc. #scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@CraigNotCreg @Julie_Gray Yes but how do you do that and stick to the 1 page: 1 minute ratio if you're writing lots of action?#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@farahabushwesha ... but worse to let someone tie themselves in knots over a premise that does not stand up IMHO @Julie_Gray#scriptchat

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Gordondon@Gordondon
@Bang2write @Julie_Gray At what point in a script's development is the ideal time to involve a script editor? #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@farahabushwesha I read two scripts like that today - not working, top to bottom. I dread giving that note. But.... #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@farahbushwesha I feel it is unethical not to tell you the truth from my years of experience. That's what paid for. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Palestrapublica go for it! The internet means you can access all sorts of opportunities. But have a strategy & an end goal :)#scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@TaroJ @Julie_Gray If you saw an 80 page spec action script, would you just think 'amateur' and move on to the next?#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Gordondon After you've written and rewritten at it least twice. Early drafts are too rough to analyze. #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@owaingillard Learn to write lean action lines. Study produced action scripts. I have a huge collection FYI #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Gordondon depends on the writer. I have some who want a draft whipped into shape; others want to build a draft from logline up#scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
@Julie_Gray would you offer constructive advice on the premise or just tell them to try something else? #scriptchat

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simon meacock@SimonMeacock
@owaingillard @CraigNotCreg @Julie_Gray I guess it's all about economy of language. Finding exactly the right words. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@miztransmission @Julie_Gray I did it collaboratively - I became part of a team, essentially. Think that's key #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@TaroJ I show them WHY the premise doesn't hold up. I teach how to see that for next time. #scriptchat

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Arjan Eising@eising
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write A premise is hard to fix, which mistakes do you see often and are ‘easy’ fixes? #scriptchat

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Andrés Serrato H.@Palestrapublica
@Bang2write #scriptchat yeah!! I found online submissions and competitions very helpfull

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@TaroJ My goal is to improve your script and your writing - BOTH so you can carry the lessons with you. #scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
@owaingillard @Julie_Gray what about you @Bang2write ? Would you pass straight away or is that a big difference outside the US? #scriptchat

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Debbie Moon@DebbieBMoon
#scriptchat @owaingillard Take a look at Tony Gilroy (Bourne) and Alex Kurzman& Bob Orci (Star Trek). Brilliant 'on the page' action writers

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@eising typos, homonyms, better proofreading is so easy. But such a common mistake. It does affect the read. #scriptchat

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Robert Goldsbrough@rpg3000
1 week left to submit for the Sir Peter Ustinov Award @iemmys. No fee, cash prize, trip to NYC & lunch with JJ Abrams. Go for it#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@TaroJ @owaingillard @Julie_Gray no, 80 pages would be fine w/me and I see them quite often, TBH. Shorter the better over here #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Don't forget, final deadline for the Just Effing Competition is August 15th. Speaking of scripts :) bit.ly/XKNZhc #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@eising @Julie_Gray easy fixes? Format. Lots of scripts have finnicky annoying things that interrupt the "flow" of the read#scriptchat

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Craig Warren@CraigNotCreg
@owaingillard An action-heavy script I have read recently is Indiana Jones, it might have some helpful techniques. #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write @taroj @owaingillard - so be aware of that diff between a UK assessment and a US assessment when submitting!#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Palestrapublica great! Keep on keeping on :) #scriptchat

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Ngaire Genge@AllInky
@owaingillard #scriptchat SEE your one minute of action and make it one page. One sentence "paragraphs." Small dialogue interruptions.

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Taro@TaroJ
We're half way through #scriptchat with @Julie_Gray &@Bang2write on script editing in the US & UK lots of great advice so far, join us.

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Screenwriters' Fest@londonswf
Fest Friends @Julie_Gray & @Bang2write talking script editing on#scriptchat on Twitter RIGHT NOW - tweet them your Qs!

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Join us on #scriptchat right NOW :) #jfeme #scriptchat #juliegray

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
Have either of you given up reading a script because of bad grammar? #scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@Julie_Gray But if u wrote action minimally u cld end up with 80 page script but no-one would read - they'd assume u r amateur?#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray @TaroJ @owaingillard yes, they are different marketplaces and it pays to know what UK/US prefers #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
What other differences are there, @bang2write? #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Also - why the name @bang2write? :) Anything behind that?#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@owaingillard Just keep that 100 page mark in your sights. Don't write action lines so minimally they lack color and movement!#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray well of course we're dealing with TEENY budgets in comparison ... £100-800K maximum, very often #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write For sure different marketplaces and expectations in the UK and in the US. #scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
Any advice you have for people considering a career as a reader/editor? #scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@Bang2write @Julie_Gray @TaroJ Yes - UK scripts generally shorter. My last script was US but yes, it's a good point #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
I get scripts from tons of UK writers who are on the mark and get the US market. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray ... I've seen perhaps 2 features scripts in the £1-5m budget range in last 6 mths & both were US co-productions!#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@TaroJ I think unfortunately that it's a very flooded field. Diversify. Work with other types of writers. #scriptchat

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Arjan Eising@eising
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write Thanks! Any tips for when you’re co-writing with someone? Any pitfalls? #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray yes, it's a pun. In the UK, we say we've got you "bang to rights" - "dead to rights" in the US, apparently #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@TaroJ Was a good career choice ten years ago. I would not say that today. #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write ahhh another US/UK difference, lol! #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@sarahcassidy always send what is asked for ... If it's an open call, a script with a rocking good one pager is always OK #scriptchat

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TheNorthernScribbler@sarahcassidy
Is it best to send a treatment or the pilot script to a production company #scriptchat

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Michelle Goode@Sofluid
@owaingillard I don't think lesser pages = amateur. In fact it can show professionalism via concise style #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@eising Be sure you CAN work together well; that your styles, strengths and weaknesses are complimentary. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@eising @Julie_Gray I think you both have to agree in advance what is allowable/not; make sure everyone's on the same page#scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write tomato tomAto :-) #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@eising I have a blog post in July about how to think thru a potential partnership if you read Just Effing Entertain Me.#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Sofluid If I see less than 90 pages or more than 115, I know something is wrong somehow, somewhere, in the structure.#scriptchat

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BAFTA Rocliffe Forum@rocliffeforum
Our 10 tips for writers on choosing the right extract to send us & writing a 1 page treatment bit.ly/192X612 learn more #scriptchat

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Arjan Eising@eising
@Julie_Gray Looking forward to it! + @Bang2write #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write also in terms of lifestyles. Some writers have more TIME to write than their partners; this can cause friction.#scriptchat

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Michelle Goode@Sofluid
@TaroJ I'd say you have to be passionate about story & analysing & helping people, because it's not a career with high pay ;)#scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@AllInky Makes sense. 1 word sentences & 1 word lines can be v annoying but it does mean accurate word count & lean description#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray yes, times/timing can be an issue for sure ... TBH this is why I write novels, peace to myself for once! haha! #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Sofluid I also get a huge amount of fulfillment from my Tel Aviv Writer's Salon. I just love writers, what can I say? #scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
@Julie_Gray and when neither of you have time, establish deadlines or times you will write together and stick to them#Guilty #scriptchat

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Arjan Eising@eising
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write Thanks for the tips! I got to go… (Currently in a movie theatre about to see the new Soderbergh.)#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray and of course @twatterer won JFEME 2011 w/his Horror. Even tho I didn't "know" you then, I KNEW you'd love it!#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write I had a partnership split up because my partner wrote full time and I just couldn't keep up with him, lol.#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write I love @twatterer (jared) SO MUCH. What a script. What a time we had together in LA! #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray yes I tried writing with @twatterer once, that guy is a machine, lol #scriptchat

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Alena-Molly@AlenaMolly
@Julie_Gray @bang2write any suggestions how to increase productivity and creativity within short time frames/day jobs#scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@eising tweeting from a cinema, that's dedication! Thanks for joining in #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray @twatterer is one of my oldest #writing friends ... we go waaaaaaay back! #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write AND charming AND handsome AND smart. AND funny. We had a great time. I love hanging out with my grand prize winners #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@AlenaMolly @Julie_Gray yes, I have to write in 5 minute bursts 'cos always had a baby in the house. 5 mins here/there adds up!#scriptchat

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Ngaire Genge@AllInky
@owaingillard #scriptchat Another thing that helps a "fast read" is good use of CAPS. It's action, lots of SOUNDS and THINGS in play. BOOM!

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@AlenaMolly Ohh that's a hard one and we all deal with it. Focus. Engagement. Organization. HUNGER. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@AlenaMolly @Julie_Gray friend said, "Even if you only write when you're sitting on the loo, you go 4 or 5 times a day!" #truth#scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
Thanks, #scriptchat guys. Got to go now but it's been great talking to you & reading all your thoughts.

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Taro@TaroJ
@Bang2write please please please do a blog post on that, writing with a job and kids is just so hard #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@bang2write @alenamolly I have a client who is the chief rabbi of Uruguay and has 7 children. He writes nonstop. It's amazing.#scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@owaingillard Thank you for joining in! #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@alenamolly I think of that client whenever I find myself whining about not having time to write :) #scriptchat

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Craig Warren@CraigNotCreg
I own 2 books on formatting that have huge differences. Is there one that is considered the standard? Any diff between US/UK?#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@TaroJ It really is. Been there, done that, bought the tee shirt. But I wrote. Writers write. It's a compulsion. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@TaroJ way ahead of you my friend:bang2write.com/category/writi… #scriptchat

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Sophie@miztransmission
@Bang2write Thanks :) I've got a lot of great collaborators so as we all move on in our careers, the work will evolve too?#scriptchat

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Alena-Molly@AlenaMolly
@Julie_Gray @bang2write wow that is impressive, I will think of him from now on and make it work #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
I am currently tweeting from my son's bedroom floor whilst holding his hand. I could write the same way #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@AlenaMolly @Julie_Gray the British Writer DemiGod Jimmy McGovern wrote to me, "If you want to write? You will write." So true #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@AdviceToWriters harder to say these days, isn't it? TV has come a long way as a medium. You should consider both/either.#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Plague_Gremlin @Julie_Gray yes, I frequently get American wisecrackers writing, "Dear SHAG2write" in emails ;) #scriptchat

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Taro@TaroJ
@Bang2write ha, cool I'll have to check it out when I'm on the laptop. #scriptchat

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Mr. Sifuentes@MrSifuentes
30 Days of Screenplays, Day 23: “Pan’s Labyrinth” shar.es/xzfyn#scriptchat #screenwriting #screenwriter #filmmaking

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@miztransmission yes, evolution is how it worked for me & plenty of others I know, keep on keeping on & all that :) #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@MaryABatchellor yes kinda gross TBH but needs must! haha#scriptchat @AlenaMolly @Julie_Gray

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write LOL I apologize for all Americans :) #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@bang2write imagine Just Effing Entertain Me. You can go nuts with that. #scriptchat

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Michelle Goode@Sofluid
@Julie_Gray That can indeed be true. Think it sometimes depends on genre- some easier to keep short in their formula than others#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray haha! I chose B2W cos memorable - Got same name as The Countess of Carlisle so will never win a Google contest ;)#scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
When you talk about script length, whether 80 or 100, is it standard for every genre? #scriptchat

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Alena-Molly@AlenaMolly
@Bang2write @julie_gray so true,there are no shortcuts!We filmed our first short today that we wrote ourselves-educational#scriptchat

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Owain Gillard@owaingillard
@AllInky Agreed. Not my preferred style but sure helps the reader fly through the script! #scriptchat

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simon meacock@SimonMeacock
#scriptchat I have a 2yr old, a full & pt time job, am doing an MA in screenwriting. I've written more in the last year than ever!!

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TheNorthernScribbler@sarahcassidy
Julie - I was so pleased to read you will be at #LSF again this year, I got so much out of your characters workshop #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@teenierussell In the US, page count and genre are standard, yes. Historical drama might be 120 pages or so. But we like 100 pgs#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@teenierussell absolutely. The WG a terrible sleeper, I was awake 20 out 24 hours for YEARS. Got lots of writing done, haha!#scriptchat

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Michelle Goode@Sofluid
@Julie_Gray @bang2write What's your editing technique/process? #scriptchat

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BAFTA Rocliffe Forum@rocliffeforum
10 tips for writers on creating an online presence and finding opportunities to get your work out there bit.ly/192X612#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@SimonMeacock funny how that happens! Sometimes writers benefit from a schedule squeeze! #scriptchat

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Sophie@miztransmission
@Bang2write Also lucky to have met a great new collaborator on twitter, pure chance. Currently in the edit on our first short!#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@sarahcassidy Oh I'm so glad. I had SUCH fun and Lucy and I are planning a pint or three for sure! #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@teenierussell Don't worry about pages, worry about tone/style. For Thriller, think FAST. Horror, DREAD. Comedy, FUNNY#scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Sofluid Gosh I've been doing this for so many years.... I miss reading paper scripts I will tell you that. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Sofluid @Julie_Gray depends who I'm working with. Me & JK are much more informal & we fight like cat and dog, LOL#scriptchat

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Michelle Goode@Sofluid
@owaingillard @AllInky Gotta be careful not to go overboard though because that can be frustrating also! #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write AGREE worry about the tone and the flow. Absolutely. Keep the page count in the back of your mind - it can be fixed #scriptchat

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Ngaire Genge@AllInky
@owaingillard #scriptchat Well, "style" is still just a mechanism to communicate well. This is just speaking the language of the READER. :)

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Michelle Goode@Sofluid
@SimonMeacock @sarahcassidy Courses can be great for focus & discipline :) #scriptchat

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Gordondon@Gordondon
@Bang2write @Julie_Gray What one piece of advice do you think is the most important for all writers? #scriptchat

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sammy sargent@Sammiiee6Ss
i was just listening to your songs and i wondered witch songs are you favourite or means more to u?@thescript @TheScript_Danny#scriptchat

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Stephen Potts@Stephen_G_Potts
@Bang2write @Julie_Gray Reading with interest. When you got to day jobs had to chip in with this:writersguild.org.uk/news-a-feature… #scriptchat

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Sophie@miztransmission
Also planning ahead for @londonswf this evening with@Bang2write's post on portfolios bang2write.com/2012/10/how-to… #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray intuition counts for so much I think; some structural advice can be very reductive #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Gordondon Advice for writers: Don't take "NO" as an answer. Always be improving and your time may come. #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Gordondon @Julie_Gray Believe in yourself ... no one else is going to do it for you #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Stephen_G_Potts hello, Stephen! #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
It's rather late where I am, so I need to say g'nite to all! #scriptchat

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Sophie@miztransmission
.@CraigNotCreg :) Danny's got some great stuff on portfolios toodannystack.blogspot.co.uk/2006/04/portfo… as has Lucybang2write.com/2012/10/how-to… #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
Wow, and that is it! Thank you so much @Bang2write and@Julie_Gray for answering all our questions tonight! #scriptchat

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Gordondon@Gordondon
@Julie_Gray Thanks for a great #scriptchat and all your advice. :-)

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@teenierussell Thank YOU, Teenie and Taro and of course,@bang2write is the best!! #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@Julie_Gray @Gordondon also, have an "end date" on a project & don't be afraid to move on to the next one. Don't stand still#scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@Julie_Gray night night and thanks again :-) #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@LIScreenWriter Yes. Just Effing Entertain Me. Available on Amazon next month :) #scriptchat

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
And don't forget my yearly and monthly competitions :)bit.ly/XKNZhc #scriptchat

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Alena-Molly@AlenaMolly
@Julie_Gray @Bang2write Thank you so much guys! Great advice and support! #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@teenierussell thanks for having me and @Julie_Gray! Think we've shown the story process is the same, the marketplaces aren't? #scriptchat

22 MINUTES AGO



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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
Good night all - great questions! Raising a Turkish coffee to the beautiful UK! #scriptchat

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Gautam Chintamani@GChintamani
"@Julie_Gray: Shoot for 100 pages. That's a golden number. No less than 95, not more than 120. #scriptchat"

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simon meacock@SimonMeacock
#scriptchat thanks @Julie_Gray & @Bang2write

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@miztransmission haha, I think The Script were trying to use "our" hashtag a while back #scriptchat

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Scott Myers@GoIntoTheStory
6-part interview series with screenwriter Daniel Kunka, sold 2 big spec scripts bit.ly/19hVG6i #scriptchat #screenwriting #movies

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Julie Gray@Julie_Gray
@Bang2write Yes. US/UK markets differ somewhat. Story is story :) #scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
@Bang2write Yes, very similar, great to see that a script is a script!#scriptchat

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
Join us again next week when we'll be joined by @rosieclaverton as we talk about multi-platform writing #scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@LIScreenWriter Yes, I got a lot from Syd Field's Screenplay; Yves Lavandier's "Writing Drama"; Aristotle's Poetics :) #scriptchat

18 MINUTES AGO



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Gordondon@Gordondon
Another great #scriptchat with excellent advice from @Julie_Gray@Bang2write. Every week I learn new things.

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Teenie Russell@teenierussell
USA #scriptchat will be joined by @franklinleonard from@theblcklst at 5pm PST

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Andrés Serrato H.@Palestrapublica
Thanks for all @Julie_Gray @Bang2write it was very helpull#scriptchat

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Lucy V Hay@Bang2write
@teenierussell And as a last cheeky tweet out, an introductory offer on B2W script editing B4 Jul 31st bit.ly/1bULKvE #scriptchat

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Screenwriters' Fest@londonswf
Another great #scriptchat session, thanks @teenierussell &@TaroJ for organising with @Bang2write & @Julie_Gray

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