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Euro Moderator: Teenie Russell - @teenierussell
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teenierussell @JoshAppFilm thank you for taking your time and creating a Twitter account for the occasion :-) #scriptchat -9:06 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell Next week we'll be joined by@julianfriedmann and Chris Walker, authors of The Insider's Guide to Writing for Television. #scriptchat -9:05 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @teenierussell: Thank you to everyone who joined us tonight! Enjoy the rest of the weekend #scriptchat -9:05 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell Thank you to everyone who joined us tonight! Enjoy the rest of the weekend #scriptchat -9:04 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @rocliffeforum@farahabushwesha Thank you for the introduction and for joining us tonight! #scriptchat -9:03 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell Thank you so much for joining us tonight @JoshAppFilm you've been a great guest! #scriptchat -9:02 PM Aug 5th, 2012
MartynPDWriter RT @JoshAppFilm: @osmium10 not sure, but i am looking forward to getting a sex pest boss one of these days. harvey w? #scriptchat -9:02 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm ...because no-one wants to work on boring, stupid derivative stuff for infants, BUT everyone wants to make money in a brutal mkt #scriptchat -9:02 PM Aug 5th, 2012
farahabushwesha RT @JoshAppFilm: what i hear from producers right now is "elevated genre." Genre with a clever premise that can be done cheaply. #scriptchat -9:02 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @JoshAppFilm: what i hear from producers right now is "elevated genre." Genre with a clever premise that can be done cheaply. #scriptchat -9:02 PM Aug 5th, 2012
farahabushwesha @JoshAppFilm @teenierussell@TaroJ #scriptchat - thank you guys for another well spent hour! Some great tips there -9:01 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum @JoshAppFilm @teenierussell @TaroJ#scriptchat - thank you guys for another well spent hour! Some great tips there -9:01 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm what i hear from producers right now is "elevated genre." Genre with a clever premise that can be done cheaply. #scriptchat -9:01 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @JoshAppFilm: @osmium10 not sure, but i am looking forward to getting a sex pest boss one of these days. harvey w? #scriptchat -9:00 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @osmium10 not sure, but i am looking forward to getting a sex pest boss one of these days. harvey w? #scriptchat -9:00 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell RT @JoshAppFilm: pls do join us on fb/twitter as per the rufus site, lots of updates etc there. http://t.co/xHt47Blm #scriptchat -9:00 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell RT @JoshAppFilm: and my new website - short with Tom Hiddleston, video with artist Martin Creed etc http://t.co/B1U9D6Tk thx! #scriptchat -8:59 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 new writers - i guess - just don't let work out without make sure it's good! you only get so many chances... #scriptchat -8:59 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @JoshAppFilm: and my new website - short with Tom Hiddleston, video with artist Martin Creed etc http://t.co/Hmm3Ormg thx! #scriptchat -8:59 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell Any word of advice for writers wanting to direct their first short? #scriptchat-8:59 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm and my new website - short with Tom Hiddleston, video with artist Martin Creed etchttp://t.co/Hmm3Ormg thx! #scriptchat -8:58 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @JoshAppFilm: pls do join us on fb/twitter as per the rufus site, lots of updates etc there. http://t.co/xHt47Blm #scriptchat -8:58 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell RT @JoshAppFilm: @teenierussell...for a writer to know director knows script intimately and helps make it better is reassuring #scriptchat -8:57 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm So you just asked and got to do it. Fantastic! #scriptchat -8:57 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell ...for a writer to know director knows script intimately and helps make it better is reassuring. #scriptchat -8:56 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell ...he decided to do it at lower budget with other producers and i said "then let me direct!" i guess that... #scriptchat -8:55 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @teenierussell: 5 minutes to go on#scriptchat with @JoshAppFilm Got any last questions for Josh? #scriptchat -8:55 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell 5 minutes to go on #scriptchatwith @JoshAppFilm Got any last questions for Josh? #scriptchat -8:55 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell i was helping Baddiel edit early version of The Infidel, it was with bbc, wasn't really happening with them so #scriptchat -8:54 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @ijoda07 everyone has their agenda, that's all. writers want to write the best written film, directors wanna make best directed? #scriptchat -8:54 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @JoshAppFilm: but that could have been taken the wrong way! #scriptchat -8:52 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 Best advice? Someone once told me to give up, my work just wasn't good enough, i thought "true" and tried harder. #scriptchat -8:52 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell How did you move from script editor to director on The Infidel? #scriptchat-8:51 PM Aug 5th, 2012
farahabushwesha Thanks you @JoshAppFilm@rocliffeforum @davidtennant #scriptchat -8:49 PM Aug 5th, 2012
farahabushwesha RT @JoshAppFilm @rocliffeforumtnks& Bigup Rocliffe!started things off on my 1st funded short http://t.co/LBXeXqwl @davidtennant #scriptchat -8:49 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @JoshAppFilm @rocliffeforumtnks& Bigup Rocliffe!started things off on my 1st funded short http://t.co/tx3m60mp @davidtennant #scriptchat -8:49 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell RT @JoshAppFilm: aside from main Rufus site, Kip has couple of blogs on his work and the social science http://t.co/kUDwVzyl #scriptchat -8:46 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm Is it tricky to be creative and tell a story that will captivate the audience while still being true to the facts? #scriptchat -8:46 PM Aug 5th, 2012
rocliffeforum RT @JoshAppFilm: aside from main Rufus site, Kip has couple of blogs on his work and the social science http://t.co/J6wOscX6 #scriptchat -8:45 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm aside from main Rufus site, Kip has couple of blogs on his work and the social sciencehttp://t.co/J6wOscX6 #scriptchat -8:45 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm with dense factual material you have to be both rigorous and able to discard/follow instinct. we did have a remit to represent. #scriptchat -8:43 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm ...and we created 2-3 composite characters from the 10 or so histories. then i wrote the screenplay, condensing more detail. #scriptchat -8:42 PM Aug 5th, 2012
TaroJ @JoshAppFilm @ant17111 I know that feeling, starting points are always the hardest for me #scriptchat -8:42 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell Rufus fascinating process, yes a lot to work with but Kip Jones the academic came up with possible condensations #scriptchat -8:42 PM Aug 5th, 2012
Leytonrocks @TaroJ @joshappfilm #Scriptchat top tip for making your protagonist more active and allude to subtext during rewrite -8:41 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm fellini wrote i think 17 features before he directed one. people think he's a "visual" director but... you see what i mean #scriptchat -8:41 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 find it v v hard to have new ideas from scratch. as soon as someone gives me an idea i like, i can run and run and run #scriptchat -8:40 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell How did you find directing Rufus Stone when there was already so much factual material available? I mean, was it hard to come up #scriptchat -8:39 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm because visual storytelling is likewise about perspective, gaze/desire, mood, relationship to others and enviornment etc. #scriptchat -8:39 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm the questions we ask in scrnwriting- who, what do they want, what doing to get it, how do we feel- are similar to visualisation #scriptchat -8:39 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @TaroJ ...get too choked up on facts/get bogged down in research. i probably do more research as a director than writer #scriptchat -8:37 PM Aug 5th, 2012
Ant17111 @JoshAppFilm Josh, do you write systematically? or must you wait until inspiration strikes? #scriptchat -8:37 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell RT @JoshAppFilm: cos its just so damn hard to write alone and know whats what. and producers have different agendas to editors #scriptchat -8:37 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm So do you always work with the same group of people?#scriptchat -8:36 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @TaroJ actually i'm not huge on research. i speedscan enough to get a few interesting details but prefer to make it up and not #scriptchat -8:36 PM Aug 5th, 2012
ijoda07 @JoshAppFilm What do you mean by different agendas for writers/producers/directors?#scriptchat -8:36 PM Aug 5th, 2012
osmium10 How would you handle a sex pest boss?http://t.co/cAdyQRkf @yourpersona #soapopera#filmmaking #gfilm #film #scriptchat @hollyoaks -8:35 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm cos it's just so damn hard to write alone and know what's what. and producers have different agendas to editors. #scriptchat -8:35 PM Aug 5th, 2012
TaroJ We're half way through #scriptchat with writer / director @joshappfilm join in and follow the hash tag -8:35 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm BUT still story is everything, the idea is everything, whatever you use to get there. i like to have an editor if i am writing #scriptchat -8:34 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm with wr/dir stuff i am using storyboards to help me have writing ideas and stuff like that!it goes back and forth to visual more #scriptchat -8:34 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell directing your own writing in an "auteur" piece is v different to working on someone elses commercial screenpllay #scriptchat -8:33 PM Aug 5th, 2012
TaroJ @JoshAppFilm how did it all start for you? Writing, editing or directing? #scriptchat -8:33 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell more than that, i think of writing and directing as a continuum, visual storytelling.... While it's true that ... #scriptchat -8:32 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell yes editing scrpt so useful. on The Infidel i was effectively baddiel's editor then becam director #scriptchat -8:31 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm #mybrotherthedevil happens to be co-produced by Gayle Griffiths who did Song of Songs... it all comes around i guess! #scriptchat -8:30 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 talent: well you cast who you think is good that is avail... casting director Julie Harkin takes a lot of credit! #scriptchat -8:29 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 I'm so pleased for James Floyd, v good actor, so tough for them! Can't wait to see #mybrotherthedevil #scriptchat -8:29 PM Aug 5th, 2012
Ant17111 Josh, do you write systematically each day or only when inspiration strikes? & whats your advice for overcoming #WRITERSBLOCK ? #scriptchat -8:28 PM Aug 5th, 2012
timtweetstoyou RT @GoIntoTheStory: The Business of Screenwriting: "Why we hate writers"http://t.co/fWwcsNpV #screenwriting #scriptchat -8:28 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm Do you think that by being a script editor too it's helped your writing and directing? #scriptchat -8:28 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell NYTpiece on how it came about: Kip Jones at Bournemouth Uni approached, his social research- aging/gay histories #scriptchat -8:28 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell RT @JoshAppFilm: Rufus short came via academic approach: see New YorkTimes piece http://t.co/LPZUVm9g #scriptchat -8:27 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @snyberg1 but that's just my script editor head talking! editor i usually work with forces me to stay at 1 page doc for years #scriptchat -8:27 PM Aug 5th, 2012
TaroJ RT @JoshAppFilm: Rufus short came via academic approach: see New YorkTimes piecehttp://t.co/kQk8h7QO #scriptchat -8:26 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell RT @JoshAppFilm: @snyberg1 i always feel if you dont have the end its cos you dont have the beginning, you just think you do. #scriptchat -8:26 PM Aug 5th, 2012
TaroJ @JoshAppFilm I take it your background in docs has really influenced how you research before you start writing? #scriptchat -8:26 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @snyberg1 if you know what i mean. premises that can seem really strong but actually don't lead anywhere aren't really premises #scriptchat -8:26 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @snyberg1 i always feel if you don't have the end its cos you don't have the beginning, you just think you do. #scriptchat -8:25 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm Rufus Stone was based on real life stories, how did you first get involved with this project? #scriptchat -8:24 PM Aug 5th, 2012
Ant17111 ...you must have an idea of talent when you see it. would you agree? #scriptchat -8:24 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm Rufus short came via academic approach: see New YorkTimes piecehttp://t.co/kQk8h7QO #scriptchat -8:24 PM Aug 5th, 2012
Ant17111 @joshAppFilm Are u aware of@ijamesfloyd's success in MY BROTHER THE DEVIL & that alot of actors u have wrkd with r doing v well #scriptchat -8:22 PM Aug 5th, 2012
farahabushwesha @JoshAppFilm you've worked with incredible actors how did you approach them/was there much persuasion/charm involved?#scriptchat -8:22 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @farahabushwesha formal scrnwriting training at courses like Arista and Northby Northwest which was invaluable.i also scriptedit #scriptchat -8:21 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @farahabushwesha ...then made a microbudet feature Song of Songs. never went to ilm school but did have some formal ed in... #scriptchat -8:21 PM Aug 5th, 2012
snyberg1 As a writer I find endings to be difficult. I can't seem to conclude my story in appropriate fashion. Thoughts? #scriptchat @JoshAppFilm -8:20 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @farahabushwesha started out making ethnographic docs, then briefly worked in latenite tv, then made shorts with pals.... #scriptchat -8:20 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell Check out an extract from@JoshAppFilm latest short @RufusStoneFilm -http://t.co/i0cS9SBl #scriptchat -8:20 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @TaroJ Rufus Stone - shorts - yes - it keeps your hand in and also you get to work without commercial constraints - liberating!! #scriptchat -8:19 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 ...a micro idea up my sleeve to just go and shoot cheaply and quickly next year while other things are on the boil.... #scriptchat -8:18 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell RT: @eising @JoshAppFilm What’s it like to write for a movie you know you’ll probably direct? #scriptchat #scriptchat -8:18 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 also things are changing all the time and i'm learning. i'm trying now to develop a microbudget thing so that i have.. #scriptchat -8:17 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 so a lot of it is talking to people i know, eg have a couple novelist friends, talking to them about script ideas! #scriptchat -8:15 PM Aug 5th, 2012
Sandy_Nicholson @JoshAppFilm Lurking while watching a lecture on shapes... I mean. OLYMPICS. SHUT UP. #scriptchat -8:15 PM Aug 5th, 2012
farahabushwesha @JoshAppFilm how did you cut your teeth in writing and directing. #scriptchat -8:14 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm ...most stuff is developed from v early stage and as a director who's very script-involved that's when you want to be there #scriptchat -8:14 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm Guilty! Athletics on in the background but Bolt was quick :-)#scriptchat -8:14 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 how do i select other people's material? good question. i think in UK reality is aside from v few specs doing rounds.. #scriptchat -8:14 PM Aug 5th, 2012
Ant17111 Hi Josh, what are you looking for in your next project? do you ever feel pressure from the industry? #scriptchat -8:14 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @SpockWriter i guess so... i have a comic voice in my head, in terms of voice, but in terms of story/premise i'm drawn to darker #scriptchat -8:13 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm Hi to everyone - curious how many of you are BTW watching the Olympics while being here also? #scriptchat -8:12 PM Aug 5th, 2012
TaroJ @joshappfilm do you use shorts such as Rufus Stone as a way to explore other genres and prove your versatility? #scriptchat -8:11 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @Ant17111 don't think i'd ever write & produce in the on-the-ground sense but writrs can end up with pdcr credit for odd reasons #scriptchat -8:11 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm ...then producers feel "ok s/he's the go-to guy for x". Brand Identity, etc . BUT,... but but but.Always so many exceptions! #scriptchat -8:10 PM Aug 5th, 2012
Ant17111 josh, how do you pick material to direct when you havn't written it? whats your process of selection? #SCRIPTCHAT #scriptchat -8:10 PM Aug 5th, 2012
SpockWriter @JoshAppFilm Are there particular genres that you would say you excel at in writing or directing than others? #scriptchat -8:09 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @teenierussell Yes, it's true if you write/direct a decent genre piece, if you can then show a desire to repeat/expand on that.. #scriptchat -8:09 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @ijoda07 Hi Jo, jump right in. We're chatting to writer/director Josh Appignanesi tonight - http://t.co/PCcDfOuK #scriptchat -8:09 PM Aug 5th, 2012
SpockWriter Hi everyone, haven't been here for a while :) Hope everyone is well! #scriptchat -8:08 PM Aug 5th, 2012
lindaleemeyer RT @TVWriterChat: RT @Jamie_LD: Don't forget, if you want to #scriptchat today, catch the Euro chat because there will not be a US chat tonight. -8:08 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm I've heard a lot that one should stick to genre and specialise but agree 100% about wanting to explore other genres #scriptchat -8:08 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm ...but a shame because i always feel good comedy has lot of reality and good "dark" stuff has humour -cf hitchcock, polanski etc #scriptchat -8:08 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm You especially see a big comedy vs other genres divide. Partly cos of tradiions of writer-performers and tv in comedy... #scriptchat -8:07 PM Aug 5th, 2012
TaroJ Have you written anything directed by someone else and as a director was that hard?#scriptchat -8:06 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm but aesthetically its very satisfying at least for me to be able to explore different and new genres and keep learning that way. #scriptchat -8:06 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm can be a little tricky because producers think "are you x o are you y" and in a crowded commercial market its easier to pigeonhl #scriptchat -8:06 PM Aug 5th, 2012
eising @JoshAppFilm What’s it like to write for a movie you know you’ll probably direct? #scriptchat-8:05 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm so er... being across genres: has an aesthetic dimension and also a career dimension. from a career point of view i think it #scriptchat -8:05 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm What came first? Writing or directing? #scriptchat -8:04 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm that i also direct - sometimes write/direct, sometimes just write, sometimes just direct. And those are all quite different. #scriptchat -8:03 PM Aug 5th, 2012
JoshAppFilm @farahabushwesha Hi Farah. Well yep, I've written/am writing in different genres, and I guess what complicates that further is #scriptchat -8:03 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell Do you have any questions about working with directors or directing your own work? Get your questions in for Josh. #scriptchat -8:02 PM Aug 5th, 2012
farahabushwesha @teenierussell @JoshAppFilmyou've worked on dif genres is there a particular theme that attracts u to a script? #scriptchat -8:02 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell @JoshAppFilm Thank you very much for joining us tonight. #scriptchat -8:01 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell f you haven't already, you can read Josh's Bio here - http://t.co/PCcDfOuK#scriptchat -8:00 PM Aug 5th, 2012
teenierussell It's #scriptchat O'Clock! Tonight we're joined by Writer/Director Josh Appignanesi @JoshAppFilm
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