#Scriptchat TOPIC: Structure
EURO had a week off to
enjoy the London Screenwriters’ Festival, but USA talked screenwriting
structure, offering tips, links, and ideas to get your story on the page with a
great foundation. Read on and try some ideas you normally don’t try.
Next week is MOVIE
NIGHT… we’re talking POLTERGEIST, so give it a watch and join the fun while we
chat about horror. Enjoy! @jeannevb
USA Moderator:
Jeanne Veillette Bowerman @jeannevb
@jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK tonight talking
Structure
October 31, 2011, 12:00 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @_ROOMIE I was joking... LOL. I know what
LEAD is... I would rather read what others have to say about it... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:00 am
@art1032: Hello #scriptchat!!:)
October 31, 2011, 12:00 am
@TheWriteScript: Hey, @tracinell! Your seat is waiting for
you! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:00 am
@jolenejahnke: #scriptchat discussing structure for the next
hour. Join in!
October 31, 2011, 12:00 am
@jeannevb: For all my followers, mute me for the next
hour... #scriptchat is on.
October 31, 2011, 12:00 am
@TheWriteScript: Hi all! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:00 am
@tracinell: @TheWriteScript thanks! *junior mint fest
tonight* :) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:01 am
@dwacon: Greetings and salutations fellow scriveners...n
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:01 am
@_ROOMIE: #scriptchat what do you guys think of the sequence
approach to structure?
October 31, 2011, 12:01 am
@IngridElkner: Pen at the ready to take down all the great
tips and transcribe to Screenwriters Anonymous for easy reading later. Lesgo!
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:01 am
@jeannevb: What say you on structure? ... toss your thoughts
out there #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:01 am
@willentrekin: RT @jeannevb: "It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK
tonight talking Structure" Structure? Awesome. 3 acts ftmfw!
October 31, 2011, 12:01 am
@BV_EW: Submissions close tonight, submit your screenplay
now! #scriptchat http://t.co/fsiE1R57
October 31, 2011, 12:02 am
@Dark_Emergence: @_ROOMIE I used the sequence approach
before I knew what it was. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:02 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @jeannevb What say YOU on structure?
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:02 am
@jeannevb: I like it haha ;) RT @UnkScreenwriter: @jeannevb
What say YOU on structure? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:03 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @jeannevb You and me both... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:03 am
@art1032: RT @BV_EW: Submissions close tonight, submit your
screenplay now! #scriptchat http://t.co/fsiE1R57
October 31, 2011, 12:03 am
@willentrekin: RT @jeannevb: "What say you on
structure?" I thought structure was bogus until I studied with Syd Field.
Totally apt. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:03 am
@_ROOMIE: Truby, Snyder, Field are they all just different
takes on Aristotle? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:04 am
@DaveMcGlone1: Hi all looking forward to all the insights
ahead in the next hour #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:04 am
@SharkGoddess: She's baaaaacccckkkk! Hello ALL!! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:04 am
@Carterkalel: @jeannevb the one thing I go by, as far as
structure of a scene is; what do I want this scene to be about... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:04 am
@JasminSharon: @jeannevb @UnkScreenwriter #scriptchat I
hate/love/respect/despise/still need help
October 31, 2011, 12:04 am
@Dark_Emergence: People complain about 3 act structure, but
I find it more freeing than most guru systems. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:04 am
@tracinell: @SharkGoddess hey! good to see you! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:05 am
@jeannevb: I recommend Hero's 2 Journeys w Chris Volger
& Michael Hauge (on DVD). Shows structure as well relating char dev to it
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:05 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon Structure is EASY... The
trick is to NOT overthink it... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:05 am
@TheWriteScript: @SharkGoddess Hey, Goddess. New pic for
you! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:05 am
@Carterkalel: @jeannevb that way I get the right dialogue
and then I feel comfortable adding the details after (movement, location).
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:05 am
@willentrekin: RT @jeannevb: I recommend Heros 2 Journeys w
Chris Volger & Michael Hauge (on DVD). Shows structure, relates character.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:05 am
@jeannevb: @Carterkalel excellent point. There's overall
structure PLUS individual scene structure #somuchtoworkwith #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:06 am
@JasminSharon: @UnkScreenwriter #scriptchat I def do that!
How do I not over think?! I don't wanna be bound by rules
October 31, 2011, 12:06 am
@tracinell: RT @UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon Structure is
EASY... The trick is to NOT overthink it... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:06 am
@HankATAP: @willentrekin @jeannevb #scriptchat Blake Snyder
says if your structure is tight enough, the credit jumpers have nothing to grab
on to.
October 31, 2011, 12:06 am
@LisaGProsek: I think you've got it right! RT
@UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon Structure is EASY... The trick is to NOT
overthink it... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:06 am
@jeannevb: @willentrekin great to see you here :)
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:06 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon Start off with solid
structure elements and then let your characters run free so that structure
becomes ORGANIC. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:07 am
@art1032: RT @tracinell: RT @UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon
Structure is EASY... The trick is to NOT overthink it... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:07 am
@Carterkalel: @jeannevb my favorite book that gives good
structure is "how to write a movie in 21 days" #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:07 am
@tracinell: RT @HankATAP: @willentrekin @jeannevb Blake
Snyder says if ur structure is tight, credit jumpers have nothing to grab on
to. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:07 am
@jeannevb: @JasminSharon once I do my outline, then I stop
overthinking structure & start having fun with the story #justsayin
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:07 am
@gregstorm: RT @jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK tonight
talking Structure
October 31, 2011, 12:07 am
@art1032: RT @UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon Start off with
solid structure elements and then let your characters run free so that
structure becomes ORGANIC. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:07 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon TRUST YOUR CHARACTERS...
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:07 am
@_ROOMIE: I like to approach structure like
http://t.co/X2rvJUe7 navigate from plot pt to plot pt. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@art1032: RT @Carterkalel: @jeannevb my favorite book that
gives good structure is "how to write a movie in 21 days" #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@willentrekin: It really is useful to think of all stories
(not just scripts) in quarters. Works just about every time. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@jeannevb: Havent read that one RT @Carterkalel: @jeannevb
my favorite book that gives good structure is "how to write a movie in 21
days" #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@tracinell: RT @UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon Start with
solid structure elements & let ur characters run free so structure bcomes
ORGANIC. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@Talltales08: I just got "Myth and the Movies" by
Stuart Voytilla Myth structures for 50 top films. A real eye opener.
#ScriptChat #screenwriting
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@joda07: Sometimes I worry that by sticking to structure my
writing gets too cliched. Anyone else have this problem? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@JAEL488: Hey everyone #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@gregstorm: RT @_ROOMIE: #scriptchat what do you guys think
of the sequence approach to structure? // Please define what you mean?
October 31, 2011, 12:08 am
@JasminSharon: @jeannevb #justsayin #scriptchat I used to
hate outlines, after film school I think I've become too obsessed. I need
balance
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@LisaGProsek: Great advice! Always! They know more than we
do. RT @UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon TRUST YOUR CHARACTERS... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@Carterkalel: @jeannevb I take way longer then the 21 days,
but follow the guidelines :). #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@JennaAvery: RT @UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon TRUST YOUR
CHARACTERS... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @GregStorm I think ANY RIGID structural
formula is just exactly that... TOO RIGID. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@Leytonrocks: #scriptchat some of us are tipsy after post
#LondonSWF drinks ;)
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@kim_garland: @willentrekin Yep, I def like seeing it in
fourths. Much easier to wrap my head around 2nd act being before & after
midpoint. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@_ROOMIE: #scriptchat @jeannevb @Carterkalel I've got that
in my basement. It's a quick read, might have to dig it out.
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@willentrekin: Also worthwhile: the mid-point is thematic
break, rather than plot break. Which is why 3 acts can seem like 4. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@BlueRidgefilms: Evening everyone! Is the scriptchat window
a little wonky? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:09 am
@Dark_Emergence: @joda07 With different characters,
settings, and plots, I can write hundreds of stories with the same structure.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:10 am
@joda07: @willentrekin Not heard of that. What is it?
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:10 am
@HankATAP: @joda07 #Scriptchat Actually, by having your
structure tight, you free yourself to go "outside" the cliche box.
October 31, 2011, 12:10 am
@JasminSharon: @jeannevb @Carterkalel #scriptchat oh I read
this one! Def had helpful exercises!
October 31, 2011, 12:10 am
@wideeyedandwild: the biggest thing for me w/ structure is
balance rather than hitting plot point C on page # X I focus on setups and
payoffs #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:10 am
@joda07: RT @Dark_Emergence: @joda07 With diff characters,
settings, & plots, I can write hundreds of stories with same structure.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:10 am
@UnkScreenwriter: Definitely begin with solid structural
elements but let your characters DECIDE what to do... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:10 am
@princess_scribe: Hold me. #POSTtraumaticstressdisorder
#day3nosleep #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:11 am
@joda07: RT @HankATAP: @joda07 #Scriptchat Actually, by
having your structure tight, you free yourself to go "outside" the
cliche box.
October 31, 2011, 12:11 am
@MonaLiNYC: @FilmTony *waving* I shouted at u sir...
#udontbeseeingme *gotta find u up in scriptchat*
October 31, 2011, 12:11 am
@joda07: @HankATAP Can u give an example? #Scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:11 am
@jeannevb: FYI, BIG PRIZE for chat 2nd anniv goes to @GCGeek...6
mo career mentorship/managm't by @zacsanford! 2nd prize announced tomorrow
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:11 am
@JasminSharon: @wideeyedandwild #scriptchat yes!
October 31, 2011, 12:12 am
@jolenejahnke: Interesting article on how @danharmon
structures each episode of Community http://t.co/JqofxtLD #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:12 am
@GCGeek: Woot!! RT @jeannevb: FYI, BIG PRIZE for chat 2nd
anniv goes to @GCGeek...6 mo career mentorship/managmt by @zacsanford!
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:12 am
@jeannevb: @JasminSharon i end up playing in them too long
as procrastination #justsayin #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:12 am
@Leytonrocks: #scriptchat best time in Uk at #LondonSWF
October 31, 2011, 12:12 am
@FilmTony: Use @OnThePage Act 2A/2B structure & title 4
major act beats, but esp 4 1st draft, let characters guide events. No beating
out #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:12 am
@tape6matt: @jeannevb I prefer to use Blake Synder's
"Save the Cat" beatsheet for outlining #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:12 am
@kim_garland: Yay! RT @GCGeek Woot! RT @jeannevb BIG PRIZE
for chat 2nd anniv goes to @GCGeek. 6 mo career mentorship/managmt by
@zacsanford! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:13 am
@tracinell: RT @UnkScreenwriter: Definitely begin with solid
structural elements but let your characters DECIDE what to do... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:13 am
@JasonDalBianco: @LeStoltz Are you familiar with ScriptChat?
October 31, 2011, 12:13 am
@dwacon: Lots of folks think structure inhibits creativity.
False. It inhibits rejection. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:13 am
@willentrekin: @joda07 Mid-points, you mean? Script = 3
acts, with plot point 1, mid-point, plot point 2. Sometimes makes it feel like
4. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:13 am
@JasminSharon: @jeannevb #justsayin #scriptchat so at what
point does it go from necessary/helpful prep to procrastination?
October 31, 2011, 12:13 am
@gregstorm: @LisaGProsek @UnkScreenwriter @JasminSharon When
I was on staff, I got really good at the outlines for the network. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:13 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @dwacon So does CREATIVITY... LOL.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:13 am
@tracinell: nice. :) RT @dwacon: Lots of folks think
structure inhibits creativity. False. It inhibits rejection. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@JasminSharon: @tracinell @UnkScreenwriter #scriptchat I
like this
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@joda07: @willentrekin Yeah, not heard of midpoint before. n
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@DimitriDavis: Oh hey, it's #scriptchat o'clock.
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@HankATAP: @joda07 #scriptchat Example: Knowing where the
story is going, you can let the characters take you to the next level & not
sweat small stuff
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@elizabethkarr: Love this! RT @dwacon: Lots of folks think
structure inhibits creativity. False. It inhibits rejection. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @elizabethkarr: Love this! RT @dwacon:
Lots of folks think structure inhibits creativity. False. It inhibits
rejection. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@LisaGProsek: It's key! RT @gregstorm:@UnkScreenwriter
@JasminSharon When I was on staff, I got really good at the outlines for the
network. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@joda07: @HankATAP Yeah. True. Also like just throwing
random stuff at them to see what they do. n #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:14 am
@wideeyedandwild: @JasminSharon dictating when plot points
should happen makes for rigid storytelling #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@HankATAP: RT @elizabethkarr: Love this! RT @dwacon: Lots of
folks think structure inhibits creativity. False. It inhibits rejection.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@willentrekin: @joda07 Think of it as page 60 of 120 page
screenplay. Major plot decision that highlights theme of script. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@FilmTony: RT @wideeyedandwild: the biggest thing 4 me w/
structure is balance. Instead of hitting plot points, focus on setups and
payoffs #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@jeannevb: Download here http://t.co/YKn2IgXd RT @tape6matt:
@jeannevb I prefer to use Blake Synder's "Save the Cat" beatsheet
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@joda07: @HankATAP Though sometimes can take me away from
structure - but usually go with it to see where it leads. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@joda07: RT @elizabethkarr: Love this! RT @dwacon: Lots of
folks think structure inhibits creativity. False. It inhibits rejection.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@AntresolCafe: @AuthorKimKoning just visited your
"realm" http://t.co/zHL0BIOm and left a comment. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@willentrekin: RT @HankATAP @elizabethkarr: Love this!
@dwacon: Lots of folks think structure inhibits creativity. False. Inhibits
rejection. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@jeannevb: I'm going to tweet out some useful links, so make
sure to look at transcript later to bookmark them...n #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:15 am
@art1032: RT @jeannevb: Download here http://t.co/YKn2IgXd
RT @tape6matt: @jeannevb I prefer to use Blake Synder's "Save the
Cat" beatsheet #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:16 am
@LoglineADay: #scriptchatn #
October 31, 2011, 12:16 am
@elizabethkarr: RT @jeannevb: Im going to tweet out some
useful links, so make sure to look at transcript later to bookmark them...
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:16 am
@jeannevb: Blake Snyder's Save the Cat beatsheet... download
here: http://t.co/89dfV5jY #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:16 am
@cynthiahasbani: “@elizabethkarr: Love this! RT @dwacon:
Lots of folks think structure inhibits creativity. False. It inhibits
rejection. #scriptchat”
October 31, 2011, 12:16 am
@JasminSharon: @GregStorm @LisaGProsek @UnkScreenwriter
#scriptchat at what point does obsessing over an outline become
procrastination?
October 31, 2011, 12:16 am
@HWDInkSlinger: HOLLYWOOD INK-SLINGER Andrew Oye
#Screenwriter | Story provides structure. Set goal. Block character's path 2+
times. Voila! LOL #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:16 am
@willentrekin: What I've learned: scenes = about 2 mins. 7
in first act, to p. 28(-ish). Proceeds accordingly. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:17 am
@Jamie_LD: RT @jeannevb: Blake Snyders Save the Cat
beatsheet... download here: http://t.co/kvbDGKMd #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:17 am
@elisakreisinger: DIY Independent Woman RT @jeannevb: Save
the Cat beatsheet... download here: http://t.co/ttklkkc0 #scriptchat
#PrimetimeInAmerica
October 31, 2011, 12:17 am
@jeannevb: How to Outline by @wcmartell http://t.co/3cD1eja9
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:17 am
@thetissuetalk: RT @jeannevb: Blake Snyder's Save the Cat
beatsheet... download here: http://t.co/kCNVMUmY #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:17 am
@JasminSharon: RT @willentrekin: RT @HankATAP
@elizabethkarr: Love this! @dwacon: Lots of folks think structure inhibits
creativity. False. Inhibits rejection. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:17 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @JasminSharon As soon as you START
OBSESSING... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:17 am
@thetissuetalk: RT @jeannevb: How to Outline by @wcmartell
http://t.co/PM8QIuz5 #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@DimitriDavis: Structure is the flow of revelation.
Storytellers work it to maximize dramatic impact. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@SharkGoddess: #scriptchat @TheWriteScript I know & I'm
sorry 4 that, but had some medical issues have kept me away. Thanks, 2 Abilify,
life's good, again
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@jolenejahnke: RT @jeannevb: How to Outline by @wcmartell
http://t.co/LfPEBYFh #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@joda07: Funny. Abt same (w/out planning it)RT
@willentrekin: What Ive learned: scenes = about 2 mins. 7 in 1st act, to p.
28(-ish). #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@Jamie_LD: This one is great. RT @jeannevb: How to Outline
by @wcmartell http://t.co/mqYXiUsN #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@jeannevb: Martin Scorsese on Story vs Plot
http://t.co/FBvTDG66 #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@LisaGProsek: @JasminSharon When I stop making progress on
the outline, I know I'm spinning my wheels and move on. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@grking: love the book - thx for this resource RT @jeannevb:
Blake Snyder's Save the Cat beatsheet - download here: http://t.co/rempxOf3
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@elizabethkarr: Useful 4 rewrites too RT @Jamie_LD: RT @jeannevb:
Blake Snyders Save the Cat beatsheet... download here: http://t.co/Y56lygOy
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@art1032: RT @jeannevb: How to Outline by @wcmartell
http://t.co/3cD1eja9 #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:18 am
@willentrekin: I thought rigid structure seems inhibitive.
Seems to work, though. 2-min scenes feel right. 28-page 1st act feels right.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:19 am
@Jamie_LD: @jolenejahnke Hi sweetie! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:19 am
@rickbata: Great tool. RT @jeannevb: Blake Snyder's Save the
Cat beatsheet... download here: http://t.co/hscBGEEi #scriptchat.
October 31, 2011, 12:19 am
@art1032: RT @jeannevb: Martin Scorsese on Story vs Plot
http://t.co/FBvTDG66 #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:19 am
@Jamie_LD: @LisaGProsek Interesting way to know you've
outlined enough. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:19 am
@FilmTony: RT @DimitriDavis: Structure is the flow of
revelation. Storytellers work it to maximize dramatic impact. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:19 am
@jolenejahnke: @Jamie_LD *waves* :) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:20 am
@pooja_LuvIndia: RT @jeannevb: FYI, BIG PRIZE for chat 2nd
anniv goes to @GCGeek...6 mo career mentorship/managm't by @zacsanford! 2nd
prize announced tomorrow #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:20 am
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October 31, 2011, 12:20 am
@willentrekin: RT @FilmTony: RT @DimitriDavis: Structure is
the flow of revelation. Storytellers work it to maximize dramatic impact.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:20 am
@Jamie_LD: @jolenejahnke come stay with me in LA next month!
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:20 am
@gregstorm: Something that all #writers should read is David
Mamet's Memo to the Writers of "The Unit" at bit.ly/iMpGOP
#scriptchat #tvwriterchat
October 31, 2011, 12:20 am
@joda07: When find writing scenes that don't flow, I go back
to structure & top of page I write in caps: point of scene. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:20 am
@TheWriteScript: @SharkGoddess Happy to hear that. Good to
see you back. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@jeannevb: Hero's 2 Journeys by Chris Volger & Michael
Hauge http://t.co/kGxwWzET #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@LisaGProsek: Thanks! Sometimes have to revisit but I make
progress. RT @Jamie_LD: @LisaGProsek Interesting way to know youve outlined
enough. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@Dark_Emergence: "Writing Movies" by
@gothamwriters has several chapters that cover structure, including subplots.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@nicoledwarner: RT @jeannevb: Martin Scorsese on Story vs
Plot http://t.co/FBvTDG66 #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@JasminSharon: @LisaGProsek #scriptchat true, when I start
rewriting an outline a kabillion times I gotta move on
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@art1032: RT @gregstorm: Something that all #writers should
read is David Mamet's Memo to the Writers of "The Unit" at
bit.ly/iMpGOP #scriptchat #tvwriterchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@joda07: sorry, b4 I write scene, I write at top: point of
scene, char arc, etc. Helps keeps me focused.n #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@willentrekin: @jeannevb Thanks Jeanne! I don't get to
#scriptchat often enough. So useful. Thrilled for a topic I can add to.
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@IngridElkner: It's best to figure out ur chars in-depth
early. Ppl tend to get stuck in story when they don't know what their char
would do. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@FilmTony: Structure is invaluable, but I can't find
structure til I've expressed lots of ideas. Makes for sloppy drafts, great
rewrites #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:21 am
@jeannevb: FYI, all those links and TONS more are on
http://t.co/upZDRnVC #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:22 am
@willentrekin: RT @joda07: "b4 I write scene, I write
at top: point of scene, char arc, etc. Helps keeps me focused." Great
idea. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:22 am
@Jamie_LD: www.scriptchat.com is your one stop shop for all
things screenwriting. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:22 am
@LisaGProsek: Just gotta! RT @JasminSharon: @LisaGProsek
#scriptchat true, when I start rewriting an outline a kabillion times I gotta
move on #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:22 am
@DimitriDavis: Here thar be treasure. rt @jeannevb: FYI, all
those links and TONS more are on http://t.co/4v49NxZl #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:22 am
@Carterkalel: RT @jeannevb: Download here
http://t.co/yMqlIsC6 RT @tape6matt: @jeannevb I prefer to use Blake Synder
"Save the Cat" beatsheet #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@tracinell: RT @jeannevb: FYI, all those links and TONS more
are on http://t.co/2dZg6uDN #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@art1032: RT @Jamie_LD: www.scriptchat.com is your one stop
shop for all things screenwriting. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@TimeoftheSwords: Observation: #Scriptchat In a
Post-Structuralist world, should film and TV scripts be so formulaic w/a
"Hollywood ending" Surprises may = $$
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@elizabethkarr: Looking at blueprint for friends' new home
put me in mind of screenplay #Outline. Solid structure key to clear
#storytelling. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@Dark_Emergence: These days, I work out the overall
structure, but beat out and write the script one fourth at a time. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@joda07: RT @Jamie_LD: http://t.co/NlK0T1wp is your one stop
shop for all things screenwriting. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @IngridElkner: It's best to figure out ur
chars in-depth early. Ppl tend to get stuck in story when they don't know what
their char would do. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@jolenejahnke: @Jamie_LD Sooo tempted to! Promise you won't
have any fun without me, right? Right?! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@jeannevb: @DimitriDavis are you wearing an eye patch while
you bake my cookies? ;) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@JasminSharon: @IngridElkner #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@Carterkalel: RT @jeannevb: How to Outline by @wcmartell
http://t.co/BEwJ465I #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@Jamie_LD: @jolenejahnke Haha not nearly as much fun.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@joda07: @Jamie_LD Ok, I must admit expected a little less
of a cliched term coming from a scriptwriter... One stop shop??? ;) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:23 am
@JasminSharon: @IngridElkner #scriptchat this!
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@DimitriDavis: @jeannevb For you, I'd wear an eyepatch to
anything. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@LisaGProsek: @IngridElkner So true ! Knowing characters is
the only way to write! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@Carterkalel: RT @jeannevb: Martin Scorsese on Story vs Plot
http://t.co/AAquLCWT #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@gregstorm: @JasminSharon @LisaGProsek @UnkScreenwriter I
was assigned to write outlines 4 the show because I was good at it. (1/2)
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@GREGBIELA: Hello #scriptchat! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@Jamie_LD: @joda07 Haha. I just couldn't help myself.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@LisaGProsek: RT @Jamie_LD: http://t.co/kyI49yrx is your one
stop shop for all things screenwriting. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@art1032: RT @elizabethkarr: Looking at blueprint for
friends' new home put me in mind of screenplay #Outline. Solid structure key to
clear #storytelling. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@PistoleroFilms: @joda07 @Jamie_LD if it's a one stop shop
does that mean i can get my coffee from there as well? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@JasminSharon: @joda07 #scriptchat wow seems like a good
idea to stay focused annnd organized
October 31, 2011, 12:24 am
@gregstorm: @JasminSharon @LisaGProsek @UnkScreenwriter I
don't do outlines for my original material. I just get to writing. (2/2)
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@GREGBIELA: RT @jeannevb: FYI, all those links and TONS more
are on http://t.co/XxRCAz2j #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@elizabethkarr: rt @joda07 When find writing scenes that
don't flow, I go back to structure & top of page I write in caps: point of
scene. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@SciFi_Core: RT @Jamie_LD: www.scriptchat.com is your one
stop shop for all things screenwriting. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@Jamie_LD: @PistoleroFilms Oops, I forgot coffee can be a
part of screenwriting. Um, not yet, would be my answer. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@Carterkalel: @jeannevb oh god! Yes thank you. The hardest
part about writing for people is getting them to tell me the plot, not the
story. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@Talltales08: @Jamie_LD I'm trying to get on the
"outline bus" but it seems to bring me to a halt. #ScriptChat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@PistoleroFilms: @Jamie_LD hahah no worries #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@Carterkalel: RT @jeannevb: FYI, all those links and TONS
more are on http://t.co/DsL6v1kT #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@Jamie_LD: @elizabethkarr I've started using Index Cards app
on my !pad to outline. I love it. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:25 am
@LisaGProsek: @gregstorm I could never just start writing
without an outline. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:26 am
@jeannevb: @GCGeek so excited for you :) I love me some
@zacsanford #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:26 am
@joda07: RT @elizabethkarr: Looking at blueprint 4 new home
put me in mind of screenplay #Outline. Solid structure key 2 #storytelling.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:26 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @elizabethkarr: rt @joda07 When find
writing scenes that don't flow, I go back to structure & top of page I
write in caps: point of scene. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:26 am
@JasminSharon: @GregStorm @LisaGProsek @UnkScreenwriter
#scriptchat really? Why is that? Is that easier for u?
October 31, 2011, 12:26 am
@jeannevb: @DimitriDavis careful...I have a great
imagination! ha #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:26 am
@TheLoneOlive: lots of people ask me about structure RE:
screenwriting. it's tonight #scriptchat topic so join in or follow along
October 31, 2011, 12:26 am
@joda07: @Jamie_LD @elizabethkarr That's an awesome idea!
You mean the stickie things? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:26 am
@LisaGProsek: Great idea! Thanks! RT @Jamie_LD:
@elizabethkarr Ive started using Index Cards app on my !pad to outline. I love
it. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:27 am
@Jamie_LD: Woohoo! RT @jeannevb: FYI, BIG PRIZE for chat 2nd
anniv goes to @GCGeek...6 mo career mentorship/managmt by @zacsanford!
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:27 am
@DimitriDavis: @jeannevb I don't make statements I can't
back up. ;) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:27 am
@GCGeek: I'm still trippin'. RT @jeannevb: @GCGeek so
excited for you :) I love me some @zacsanford #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:27 am
@IngridElkner: Definition of funny: getting a university
screenwriting teacher to try and explain what PLOT is. Or THEME. All have diff
answers #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:27 am
@Jamie_LD: @joda07 There is an app called Index Cards. I use
it, and write out my scenes, then I can move them around. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:27 am
@FilmTony: Structure's crucial but comes later. If u wanna
to build a great chair, imagine how it should look 1st, then how to build it.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@sdarancette: @IngridElkner Haha! Keep looking for new
university professors who know the difference. #scriptchat #doritos
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @elizabethkarr: Looking at blueprint for
friends' new home put me in mind of screenplay #Outline. Solid structure key to
clear #storytelling. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@jeannevb: After I outline, I put scenes on index cards,
diff't color for plot A, plot B, plot C... & spread out on table. Easy to
see flow #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@gregstorm: It seems like when most #writers talk structure,
they think 3-Act. Interesting that rarely do we talk about scene structure
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@elizabethkarr: @joda07 If the shoe fits.. @SKComedy always
said 'embrace the cliche' when I was Artist in Residence Manhattan Punchline
#acting #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@elizabethkarr: RT @Jamie_LD: @joda07 There is an app called
Index Cards. I use it, and write out my scenes, then I can move them around.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@JAEL488: RT @joda07: @Jamie_LD @elizabethkarr That's an
awesome idea! You mean the stickie things? #scriptchat That' s what I use
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@jeannevb: Also, after I outline, I write a SYNOPSIS. Sucks,
but SO easy to see flaws in the story... THEN i get to draft one. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@LoglineADay: This is my first #scriptchat. I find structure
the biggest challenge
October 31, 2011, 12:28 am
@joda07: @elizabethkarr Ohhh.. I'm so there. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@UnkScreenwriter: Organic structure allows the audience to
relive events in order to understand emotions leading characters to do what
they did. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@Jamie_LD: @LoglineADay Welcome to #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@andrewoye: RT @HWDInkSlinger: HOLLYWOOD INK-SLINGER Andrew
Oye #Screenwriter | Story provides structure. Set goal. Block character's path
2+ times. Voila! LOL #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@tracinell: My 1st structure: Beginning, Middle & End.
Subsequent structures evolve from that basic/simple start. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@GREGBIELA: @GCGeek Congrats!! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@jeannevb: @LoglineADay welcome! We're here every Sunday
night, same time. Blog http://t.co/upZDRnVC #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@willentrekin: RT @jeannevb: After I outline, I put scenes
on index cards, diff color for plot A, plot B, plot C. Easy to see flow
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@Talltales08: @LisaGProsek I'm just the opposite. I know
"just writing" leads to more re-writes but, when I try to outline I
just freeze. #ScriptChat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@DimitriDavis: @gregstorm Seems like scenes can vary a lot
more "successfully", structurally. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@IngridElkner: I find dividing A, B, & C plots hard,
because they tend to intertwine so heavily. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@Dark_Emergence: That's because my scenes usually have 3
parts too lol RT @gregstorm: Interesting that rarely do we talk about scene structure
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@LisaGProsek: I do that too. Helps! RT @jeannevb: Also,
after I outline, I write a SYNOPSIS. Sucks, but SO easy to see flaws in the
story... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@GCGeek: @GREGBIELA @Jamie_LD Thanks!! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @jeannevb: Also, after I outline, I write
a SYNOPSIS. Sucks, but SO easy to see flaws in the story... THEN i get to draft
one. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:29 am
@Silverwingscrpt: RT @UnkScreenwriter: @GregStorm I think
ANY RIGID structural formula is just exactly that... TOO RIGID. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@Jamie_LD: Congrats to @GCGeek for winning the #scriptchat
anniversary prize of 6 months of mentorship with @zacsanford and co.
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@tracinell: I plan the beginning, work to the middle, then
work-out how to get to the end. #toosimple? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@craigary: RT @jeannevb: How to Outline by @wcmartell
http://t.co/3cD1eja9 #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@JasminSharon: @LoglineADay #scriptchat hi!
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@art1032: @LoglineADay Welcome to #scriptchat!:)
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@LisaGProsek: @Talltales08 I've heard of others who don't
like outlining. Everybody has to find own way. :) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@craigary: RT @gregstorm: Something that all #writers should
read is David Mamet's Memo to the Writers of "The Unit" at
bit.ly/iMpGOP #scriptchat #tvwriterchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@DimitriDavis: Find the structural methods that really work
for you. But if you can save yourself three rewrites before you start...
#justsayin #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@LisaGProsek: Agree! Whew! RT @IngridElkner: I find dividing
A, B, & C plots hard, because they tend to intertwine so heavily.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@willentrekin: RT @IngridElkner: "Dividing A, B, &
C plots hard. They tend to intertwine." True. Try to focus on plot events
rather than acts. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@thetissuetalk: @IngridElkner Me too. Or I would have my A
and B set, and realize I'm in need of a C but don't know how to fit it in.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@GREGBIELA: Same here. RT @tracinell: I plan the beginning,
work to the middle, then work-out how to get to the end. #toosimple?
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:30 am
@art1032: RT @Jamie_LD: Congrats to @GCGeek for winning the
#scriptchat anniversary prize of 6 months of mentorship with @zacsanford and
co.
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@elizabethkarr: @Jamie_LD @jeannevb @joda07 I LOVE index
cards. Something fulfilling about pen to paper. Have not yet tried ipad app.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@tracinell: Congrats @GCGeek! #luckyducksarethebestducks ;)
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@Jamie_LD: I start with beginning and end, then fill in the
plot points. From there I fill in the beats. After that I go to the index
cards.#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@beingbrad: Hey, #scriptchat friends. Just a selfish plug to
say my 1 script a week for a year project just came to an end today.
http://t.co/1UflhUFv
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@JAEL488: RT @tracinell: Congrats @GCGeek!
#luckyducksarethebestducks ;) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@willentrekin: One major key to cracking structure is
figuring out what events drive the plot. Not comprise it, but CAUSE it.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@gregstorm: @JasminSharon The purpose of an outline on TV is
to convey your story idea to Exec Producers, Studio, Network. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@beingbrad: I'm mucho proud #scriptchat http://t.co/yJBgz9I5
October 31, 2011, 12:31 am
@TheWriteScript: RT @tracinell: Congrats @GCGeek!
#luckyducksarethebestducks ;) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@jeannevb: I always outline my scripts, but I did #nanowrimo
last yr w/o outlining to try the "let the char decide" approach.
Interesting #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@GREGBIELA: @beingbrad Way to go!n #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@Talltales08: @LisaGProsek True, everyone needs to find what
works for them and not try to copy what works for others. #ScriptChat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@LoglineADay: @jeannevb Thanks, hope to return #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@AndiWritesAgain: Sorry I'm late! #scriptchat (And I'll
figure out the topic all by myself!)
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@tracinell: Wow! :) RT @beingbrad: Just a selfish plug to
say my 1 script a week a year project came to an end today.
http://t.co/ku0kujNi #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@FilmTony: Structure's crucial, but comes later. If u want
to build a great chair, imagine how it should look 1st, then how to build it.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@joda07: RT @Jamie_LD: I start w begin.& end, then fill
in plotpoints. From there I fill in beats. After that, index cards.#scriptchat
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@art1032: RT @willentrekin: One major key to cracking
structure is figuring out what events drive the plot. Not comprise it, but
CAUSE it. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@nisajaie: @thetissuetalk Same here. Design stuff.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@beingbrad: @GREGBIELA thanks, greg. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@JasminSharon: #scriptchat party ppl I gotta go, in nj after
the snow storm no power/heat, rationing battery, blackberry bout to die :(
enjoy rest of chat!
October 31, 2011, 12:32 am
@bradriddell: I go logline first, then short treatment, lots
of pitching 2 friends, long treatment, and then a beat sheet from there.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@jeannevb: I know you all have a process you use, but I
encourage u to test a diff't approach to stretch your mind. #changeisgood
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@AndiWritesAgain: RT @jeannevb: Also, after I outline, I
write a SYNOPSIS. Sucks, but SO easy to see flaws in the story... THEN i get to
draft one. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@DimitriDavis: rt @willentrekin: One major key to cracking
structure is figuring out what events drive the plot. Not comprise it, but
CAUSE it. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@DimitriDavis: @beingbrad Grats! Looking forward to reading
more after you decompress. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@Jamie_LD: @bradriddell Loglines are the toughest for me.
Good ones anyway. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@AndiWritesAgain: RT @jeannevb: After I outline, I put
scenes on index cards, diff't color for plot A, plot B, plot C... & spread
out on table. Easy to see flow #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@AndiWritesAgain: RT @jeannevb: I know you all have a
process you use, but I encourage u to test a diff't approach to stretch your
mind. #changeisgood #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@GCGeek: Don't want to take away from structure discussion,
but I'd like to thank #treefort @kim_garland @Jamie_LD @zacsanford @jeannevb!
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @jeannevb: I know you all have a process
you use, but I encourage u to test a diff't approach to stretch your mind.
#changeisgood #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@bradriddell: Favorite quote re: prewriting: "I can
write a screenplay in a car crash, it's the thinking that kills me." --
Mamet #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@LisaGProsek: Big congrats! RT @beingbrad: Im mucho proud
#scriptchat http://t.co/Qneqn8pQ #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@jeannevb: After draft one, I write another synopsis (bc
script ALWAYS changes from outline)... then more index cards, then rewrite
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@beingbrad: you are my family, so I share here first and
with pride. 600 pages, 52 scripts. Thanks for making it real. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:33 am
@Jamie_LD: @elizabethkarr I love that I can just flip open
my !Pad when I have a scene idea. No searching for pen and card. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@GREGBIELA: RT @jeannevb: I know U all have a process U use,
but I encourage u to test a difft approach to stretch your mind. #changeisgood
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@joda07: @bradriddell Yeah, pretty much same here. Can
revise if they start to look bored or confused. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@DimitriDavis: Then combine structural methods. #experiment
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@FilmTony: @willentrekin But shouldn't characters dictate
events? Otherwise u can make characters defy themselves to simply hit plot
points #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@SKCOMEDY: I don't recall that, but I did a lot of drugs
back then... #scriptchat RT @elizabethkarr @joda07 @SKComedy always said
'embrace the cliche'
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@Jamie_LD: @GCGeek No one deserves this more than you do. This
is your chance to make it real! #treefort #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@AndiWritesAgain: @beingbrad Very nice. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@rprestonclark: #scriptchat Sup folks. Long time no talk to.
So we're talking structure. This is easily the bane of my existence.
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@JAEL488: RT @FilmTony: But shouldn't characters dictate
events? Otherwise u can make characters defy themselves to simply hit plot
points #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@GREGBIELA: @beingbrad That is seriously awesome. Way to
stay on task! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:34 am
@beingbrad: @DimitriDavis thanks, dimitri. decompress is a
good word for it. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:35 am
@wideeyedandwild: usually start by filling in the BS2, then
I'll craft that into 8 sequences, and THEN I'll do a scene-by-scene outline
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:35 am
@Jamie_LD: This is excellent advice! RT @DimitriDavis: Then
combine structural methods. #experiment #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:35 am
@Dark_Emergence: @jeannevb My post-draft outline is pretty
much the blocks of red ink on my first draft. So many hand cramps. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:35 am
@jeannevb: @GCGeek we appreciate you & your consistent
support of #scriptchat @kim_garland @Jamie_LD @zacsanford #treefort
October 31, 2011, 12:35 am
@joda07: @SKCOMEDY I think ur point was cliches are there
for a reason. Because they're based on truth. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:35 am
@writeforfilm: There's always great poetry . .
http://t.co/pmH0KyjX #screenwriting #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:35 am
@GCGeek: @Jamie_LD {Hugs} I won't waste this opportunity.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:35 am
@kim_garland: Exactly! :) RT @jeannevb: @GCGeek we
appreciate you & your consistent support of #scriptchat @kim_garland
@Jamie_LD @zacsanford #treefort
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@wideeyedandwild: and all of that outlining is just a
skeleton. once I start that first draft I can't be married to it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@MonaLiNYC: @UnkScreenwriter *Preach it* #waveschurchfan
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@HankATAP: @FilmTony @willentrekin #scriptchat True, chars should
dictate events. That's why if you know your chars, events will spring from
them.
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@jeannevb: @Dark_Emergence i have dozens of dried-up red
pens haha #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@DimitriDavis: Part of great plots is making characters do
the last thing they ever want to do. In an honest fashion, ofc. @JAEL488
@FilmTony #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@elizabethkarr: @SKCOMEDY In my Punchline notes. Embrace the
cliche re acting. Shorthand for audience to get comedy. I quote u when I teach
kids #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@GREGBIELA: RT @wideeyedandwild: and all of that outlining
is just a skeleton. once I start that first draft I cant be married to it
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@UnkScreenwriter: @MonaLiNYC LOL. All preached out...
#waveschurchfan #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@Kevin_Slack: RT @jeannevb: I know you all have a process
you use, but I encourage u to test a diff't approach to stretch your mind.
#changeisgood #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:36 am
@gregstorm: @Jamie_LD @joda07 Oh you kids & your
gadgets. I use this thing called paper. Comes in 3x5 inch cards u can put on
corkboards #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@SKCOMEDY: The term I use now is 'archetype' - less loaded
than 'cliche' RT @joda07 I think ur point was cliches are there for a reason.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@beingbrad: okay, enough from me about me, what's the topic
tonight? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@willentrekin: RT @FilmTony: "But shouldn't characters
dictate events?" Story, plot, character relate. None can be separated.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@DimitriDavis: Outline loose and fast so you don't mind
cutting it all to pieces and beginning anew. #nobabies #nothingissacred
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@joda07: @HankATAP Rather than events happening to
characters to drive plot? This is what I'm finding is my problem. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@elizabethkarr: @GCGeek Thrilled for you working with
@zacsanford! You will soar! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@GCGeek: The support is from you! Much ♥
#treefort: @jeannevb @kim_garland @Jamie_LD @zacsanford @Mina_Zaher #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@Jamie_LD: @GregStorm Haha, but not as portable. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:37 am
@jeannevb: @beingbrad structure #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:38 am
@jolenejahnke: @beingbrad Kudos!! Are you setting a new goal
this year? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:38 am
@kim_garland: 1st thing I did when started screenwriting was
take university class in Script Analysis. Analyzed structure for mos. V
helpful! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:38 am
@willentrekin: RT @HankATAP: "If you know your chars,
events will spring from them." @filmtony #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:38 am
@dianewms: RT @DimitriDavis: Outline loose and fast so you
don't mind cutting it all to pieces and beginning anew. #nobabies
#nothingissacred #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:38 am
@JAEL488: I let my characters be my guide #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:38 am
@kim_garland: Now it's all the other parts of screenwriting
that are the challenge. ;) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:38 am
@elizabethkarr: @SKCOMEDY Exactly-Cliche's didn't get to be
cliches w/out having some truth in them. Best to avoid in writing tho handy at
times #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@JennaAvery: @DimitriDavis What do you do when YOU don't
want to make your character do what s/he doesn't want to do? :) @JAEL488
@FilmTony #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@TheLoneOlive: actually they are talking more process than
structure on #scriptchat but still interesting & many of you may enjoy so
jump on it
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@AndiWritesAgain: @GCGeek @MonaLiNYC Whoop! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@beingbrad: @willentrekin @FilmTony but you do have to start
somewhere. I start at character and what they want and why they can't get it
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@DimitriDavis: The more details you put down, the more you
have to 'unthink' when you inevitably rewrite your outline. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@JennaAvery: Great idea! RT @kim_garland: 1st thing I did
when started screenwriting was take university class in Script Analysis.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@SKCOMEDY: There were notes? Like I said, lots o' drugs RT
@elizabethkarr In Punchline notes. Embrace cliche--I quote u when I teach kids
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@beingbrad: @jeannevb what's structure? ;) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@HankATAP: @joda07 #scriptchat If you do your character
backgrounds and really know them, your story points will be true to them, not
just plot points.
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@jeannevb: Love this RT @kim_garland: 1st thing I did when started
screenwriting was take Script Analysis class. Analyzed structure for mos
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@bradriddell: I teach & use the sequence structure.
David Howard & Paul Gulino have great books. Helps 2 manage tension w/
short term conflict #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@dwacon: Structuring helps me to identify those plot holes
that can pop up when writing turning points, reversals and such. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@JennaAvery: RT @DimitriDavis: The more details you put
down, the more you have to 'unthink' when you inevitably rewrite your outline.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@Jamie_LD: GO YOU!!! RT @beingbrad: Hey, #scriptchat
friends...my 1 script a week for a year project just came to an end today.
http://t.co/f9Yu4gr3
October 31, 2011, 12:39 am
@jeannevb: @beingbrad :) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@IngridElkner: Maybe we should think about it as fate VS
free-will. Our structure is the fate, then chars come along with free will.
Battle! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@gregstorm: @LisaGProsek @JasminSharon I think about what I
want to do but don't put down an outline for my orginal material. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@beingbrad: I've been studying Rod Serling lately. The guy
was a structure genius. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@DimitriDavis: @JennaAvery Get less attached to your
characters and get used to putting them through hell. @JAEL488 @FilmTony
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@LoglineADay: Right now I'm switching from cards to new
outline during rewrite. Always logline first #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@joda07: @elizabethkarr @skcomedy - I think u use cliches as
starting point. Then dev char to add depth. Char => motivation => plot
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@GCGeek: @beingbrad You should be mucho proud! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@DimitriDavis: @JennaAvery Though feel free to tease them
(and the audience) with near-misses. @JAEL488 @FilmTony #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@JennaAvery: Like that RT @IngridElkner: Our structure is
the fate, then chars come along with free will. Battle! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@bradriddell: @beingbrad True that. #Serling #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@Jamie_LD: Question to chatters: What do you put on your
index cards/scene cards? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@JasminSharon: @DimitriDavis #nobabies #nothingissacred
#scriptchat true. Can't be married to outline, then you won't embrace necessary
changes
October 31, 2011, 12:40 am
@LoglineADay: RT @jeannevb: After draft one, I write another
synopsis (bc script ALWAYS changes from outline)... then more index cards, then
rewrite #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@beingbrad: @jolenejahnke yeah, but it's a Ron Swanson goal.
Don't Die. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@rprestonclark: #scriptchat I write an outline based on the
beat calculator then let the characters have some fun
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@FrankIyMyDear: RT @BV_EW: Submissions close tonight, submit
your screenplay now! #scriptchat http://t.co/fsiE1R57
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @JennaAvery: Like that RT @IngridElkner:
Our structure is the fate, then chars come along with free will. Battle!
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@art1032: RT @beingbrad: I've been studying Rod Serling
lately. The guy was a structure genius. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@JennaAvery: @DimitriDavis Good point. I think I'm WAY too
attached to this one I'm writing now @JAEL488 @FilmTony #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@elizabethkarr: Best logline ever: Veni, vidi, vici. I came.
I saw. I conquered. Useful inspiration when I get stuck.
#agoodloglineishardtodo #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@gregstorm: @LisaGProsek @JasminSharon If I can nail a clear
beginning and get a good idea of a strong ending, then I just start #writing
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@dianewms: #scriptchat In my epic historic action-adventure,
I have to build the character based on what I know he did. So for now, plot is
driving.
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@JennaAvery: RT @elizabethkarr: Best logline ever: Veni,
vidi, vici. I came. I saw. I conquered. Useful inspiration when I get stuck.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:41 am
@Jamie_LD: Structure is just a road map, it doesn't mean you
can't stray a bit, try a new restaurant, shop at a cute boutique... #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@jeannevb: I hate worrying about structure. There. I said
it. But everything in life thats worth it is hard work. #justdoit #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@beingbrad: I really believe that if you understand
character and structure you can make a living in this unforgiving business.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@LoriMoreno: RT @elizabethkarr Best logline ever: Veni,
vidi, vici. I came. I saw. I conquered. Useful inspiration
#agoodloglineishardtodo #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@JAEL488: RT @jeannevb: I hate worrying about structure.
There. I said it. But everything in life thats worth it is hard work. #justdoit
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@DimitriDavis: @JennaAvery Find some way of distancing
yourself. We do it with strangers every day. #psychology #useful @JAEL488
@FilmTony #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@joda07: RT @Jamie_LD: Structure is just a road map, it
doesnt mean u cant stray a bit, try a new restaurant, shop at cute boutique...
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@thinkStory: RT @elizabethkarr: Best logline ever: Veni,
vidi, vici. I came. I saw. I conquered. Useful inspiration when I get stuck.
#agoodloglineishardtodo #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@jeannevb: Give yourself permission to think outside of the
box. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:42 am
@elizabethkarr: RT @beingbrad: I really believe that if you
understand character & structure you can make a living in this unforgiving
business. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @beingbrad: I really believe that if you
understand character and structure you can make a living in this unforgiving
business. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@Jamie_LD: @jeannevb Have done chats on Dialogue, or
Relationships? I can't remember. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@joda07: RT @beingbrad: I really believe that if u
understand character & structure u can make a living in this unforgiving
business. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@TheLoneOlive: study structure til u watch movies &
pinpoint the act breaks, inciting incidents, all is lost etc can pause the
movie & be right #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@kingisafink: Amen to that! RT @kim_garland: Took university
class in Script Analysis. Analyzed structure for mos. V helpful! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@JennaAvery: @DimitriDavis Too true. Interesting @FilmTony
says to stay attached! #scriptchat #psychology #useful #scriptchat @JAEL488
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@gregstorm: @DimitriDavis If the structure of your scenes
are solid page turners, then you're on the right track #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@jeannevb: @Jamie_LD yes, we've done on dialogue but we're
due for another! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@joda07: @Jamie_LD Dialogue wld be awesome!!! Finding unique
voice for each char takes skill #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@malber: @beingbrad i hope that's true, my friend, because i
moved out here on that suspicion. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@DimitriDavis: The difference between successful and
aspiring is subtle, yet unmistakable in hindsight. @beingbrad #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:43 am
@Jamie_LD: @jeannevb I thought so, but a LONG time ago.
Definitely worth another chat, since it's so important. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:44 am
@DimitriDavis: @JennaAvery @FilmTony I only suggest being
attached to your characters if you can stomach eviscerating them. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:44 am
@beingbrad: Structure is something u understand, not
*apply*. It's learning to pitch a curveball. Once you get it, you don't think
about it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:44 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber Hello Mike! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:44 am
@TheLoneOlive: understanding hollywood structure as a
screenwriter does ruin viewing exp of most films. knowing every beat before it
happens #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:44 am
@jeannevb: @Jamie_LD i'll put it on the schedule #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:44 am
@DimitriDavis: @JennaAvery @FilmTony Love your characters.
They should thrill you. But don't let that stop you from breaking their hearts.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:44 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD hey there! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:44 am
@JennaAvery: @kim_garland Where did you take that analysis
class? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@JennaAvery: LIke it RT @DimitriDavis: Love your characters.
They should thrill you. But don't let that stop you from breaking their hearts.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@HankATAP: @joda07 @Jamie_LD #scriptchat The important thing
is to be sure all the characters aren't speaking in YOUR voice!
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD RE: structure - i think it's more
important than dialogue. i love dialogue, but i never spend months fiddling
with it. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@tracinell: there you go. RT @beingbrad: Structure is
something u understand, not *apply*... Once you get it, you dont think about it
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @beingbrad: Structure is something u
understand, not *apply*. It's learning to pitch a curveball. Once you get it,
you don't think about it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@Dark_Emergence: @TheLoneOlive Yeah, but that only makes
movies that surprise you even better. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@beingbrad: @malber you've got bigger, juicier and redder
plums than I. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@gregstorm: @Jamie_LD Why be portable? Nothing says #writer
like waiting for your double mocca w/ a 4foot x 3foot corkboard under your arm
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber I never emailed you this week. I've been
busy? Distracted? Hell, I just forgot. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@jeannevb: @malber put that baby down and jump in... we're
talking structure #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@Tim_OHalloran: RT @bradriddell: Favorite quote re:
prewriting: "I can write a screenplay in a car crash, it's the thinking
that kills me." -- Mamet #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@Leytonrocks: @PitchfestBob you gotta have structure in mind
no matter how you end up there #scriptchat to write w/out one is to write blind
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD and very rarely do prod co's send me to
work on dialogue. just structure. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:45 am
@ambrozya: RT @JennaAvery: LIke it RT @DimitriDavis: Love
your characters. They should thrill you. But don't let that stop you from
breaking their hearts. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@JennaAvery: RT @tracinell RT @beingbrad: Structure is
something u understand, not *apply*... Once you get it, you dont think about it
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@joda07: RT @beingbrad: Structure is something u understand,
not *apply*... Once you get it, u dont think about it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@Leytonrocks: @jeannevb this weekend ... Learnt to stop and
do exercises outside the script 4 the script #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@TheLoneOlive: RT @bradriddell: I teach & use the
sequence structure. David Howard & Paul Gulino have great books. Helps 2
manage tension w/ short term conflict #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@gregstorm: RT @beingbrad: Structure is something u
understand, not *apply*. It's learning to pitch a curveball. Once you get it,
you don't think about it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@SKCOMEDY: the movies i like are the ones that bend or break
rules @TheLoneOlive understanding hollywood structure does ruin viewing exp
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@JennaAvery: @DimitriDavis You just helped me so much more
than you will ever know! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@bradriddell: Knowing your structure & strong outlining
allows you to spend your creative energy on the garnish, not figuring out
what's next. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber Interesting. I hear that dialogue is a
huge issue with readers. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@HankATAP: #scriptchat and for heaven's sake, don't use that
dialog for exposition. Make it count. Make it real!
October 31, 2011, 12:46 am
@beingbrad: but getting it is fucking hard. and i'm not sure
you can. *sigh* #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@Leytonrocks: @jeannevb I hear that #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@joda07: I'm mean that way RT @DimitriDavis: Love ur
characters. They shld thrill u. But dont let that stop u from breaking their hearts.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@Jamie_LD: RT @GregStorm: Why be portable? Nothing says
#writer like waiting for ur double mocca w/ a 4foot x 3foot corkboard under ur
arm #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@DimitriDavis: @FilmTony Characters should always be making
choices that are true to the character. Bring them to their breaking point
honestly #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@FilmTony: RT @beingbrad: Structure is something u
understand, not *apply*. It's learning to pitch a curveball. Once you get it,
you don't think about it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@tellofilms: LOVE writers who take risks. Unique characters.
Unique stories. RT @jeannevb: Give yrself permission to think outside of the
box #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@DimitriDavis: @FilmTony But bring them to their breaking
point! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@beingbrad: Has anyone seen SHOTGUN STORIES? I'd love to
talk about the structure of that picture. It worked, but I don't know why.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@Jamie_LD: @GregStorm LMAO. Yup, pretty much SCREAMS #writer
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:47 am
@kim_garland: @JennaAvery At The New School in NYC. I took
it Continuing Ed b/c I already had undergrad degree & wasn't looking for
Master's. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:48 am
@VBrownWriter: RT @Jamie_LD: RT @GregStorm: Why be portable?
Nothing says #writer like waiting for ur double mocca w/ a 4foot x 3foot
corkboard under ur arm #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:48 am
@DimitriDavis: *Awesome that way. rt @joda07: I'm mean that
way rt (me) But dont let that stop u from breaking their hearts. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:48 am
@DimitriDavis: @arne_bue My pleasure, truly. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:48 am
@SKCOMEDY: Michael Hague and Chris Vogler have a great DVD
on Structure: The Heroes Two Journeys #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:48 am
@joda07: Funny. When I look back to early writing - everything
had structure. Even radio ads had structure. What makes things flow.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:48 am
@Talltales08: @kim_garland Is that the one with Bill Pace?
#ScriptChat
October 31, 2011, 12:48 am
@DimitriDavis: @JennaAvery Happy to share what I've been
grateful to have learned. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:49 am
@DimitriDavis: @FilmTony Language is tricky that way.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:49 am
@queenofinbtween: RT @jeannevb: Give yourself permission to
think outside of the box. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:49 am
@elizabethkarr: RT @SKCOMEDY: Michael Hague and Chris Vogler
have a great DVD on Structure: The Heroes Two Journeys #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:49 am
@tellofilms: Hey, writers! Follow the #scriptchat twitter
discussion for 10 more min for screenplay structure tips. Add YOUR two cents.
October 31, 2011, 12:49 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber I'm with you there. I fret and write and
rewrite forever working out the backbone, the dialogue comes easy. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:49 am
@_ROOMIE: @GregStorm idea of breaking plot down into 7 or 8
blocks w/ dramatic question 4 each+plot points spinning story in new direction
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@TheLoneOlive: speaking process of nailing structure, always
hate writing one pages. now, i make sure they are kickass before starting
script #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@JasminSharon: RT @DimitriDavis: @FilmTony Characters should
always be making choices that are true to the character. Bring them to their
breaking point honestly #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@Talltales08: I'm sure there has to be a good book on
outlining, can anyone suggest a few? #ScriptChat #screenwriting
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@kim_garland: @Talltales08 Yes, he teaches it but I took w
other teacher, Bill wasn't teaching it that semester. I'm still friends w my
teach! #ScriptChat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@StephanieQueen: @StephanieQueen @willentrekin @FilmTony
Characters always dictate events - except if they live in a Dan Brown novel.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@joda07: @Jamie_LD True. If i struggle w/ dialogue usually
because haven't got structure or char's voice nailed. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@TVWriterChat: Don't forget, at 6:30pm Pacific #tvwriterchat
is discussing starting a virtual writer's group. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD we just got sent back to rewrite the
first act on a script we've been polishing for 18 months. structure is king!
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@elizabethkarr: @VBrownWriter @Jamie_LD @GregStorm I always
order #vanilla lattes. Perhaps should go back to producing Disney shows. :)
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:50 am
@SKCOMEDY: I worked with a writer today who had fabulous
characters, sharp dialogue but zero structure = a mess. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@grking: @jeannevb knowledge of structure gives you confidence
to break it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@bradriddell: RT @TheLoneOlive: always hate writing one
pages. now, i make sure they are kickass before starting script #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@Jamie_LD: @joda07 Character, it's definitely a character
problem for me if that's happening. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@TheLoneOlive: do most of you write in 3 or 4 act structure?
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@beingbrad: And what about MY DINNER WITH ANDRE? Why does
that work? This is when I doubt everything I think I know about everything.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@joda07: RT @StephanieQueen @willentrekin @FilmTony
Characters always dictate events - except if they live in a Dan Brown novel.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@elizabethkarr: ! RT @TVWriterChat: Dont forget, at 6:30pm
Pacific #tvwriterchat is discussing starting a virtual writers group.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@DimitriDavis: @FilmTony Twitter is great practice for
getting to the essence and being concise and decisive with your diction.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@sdarancette: RT @TVWriterChat: at 6:30pm Pacific
#tvwriterchat is discussing starting a virtual writer's group. #scriptchat -
I'll be there, man
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@jeannevb: If you ever want to know what #scriptchat topic
will be, look here: http://t.co/iFZTbcN9
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@Claire_Phillips: RT @SKCOMEDY: Michael Hague and Chris
Vogler have a great DVD on Structure: The Heroes Two Journeys #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@_ROOMIE: #scriptchat @TVWriterChat re: virtual writer's
group checkout @act_write
October 31, 2011, 12:51 am
@jamesgalenz: I just realised it's #scriptchat time. Looks
like a good one today. I guess I'll have to read the transcript.
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@beingbrad: @SKCOMEDY it's your experience I'm jealous of.
To be able to see it like that is a gift. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@joda07: @Jamie_LD Yeah because it means I don't know what
they want. And they don't either. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@AndiWritesAgain: RT @jeannevb: If you ever want to know
what #scriptchat topic will be, look here: http://t.co/iFZTbcN9
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@kingisafink: Yup. RT @grking: @jeannevb knowledge of
structure gives you confidence to break it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@Dark_Emergence: @jeannevb What is the movie for the next movie
night? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@jeannevb: #PIMPtipoftheday: RT @grking: @jeannevb knowledge
of structure gives you confidence to break it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@TheLoneOlive: i find when i read, especially for contests,
the inciting incident better be by page 5 now a days. 10 is really pushing it.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@DimitriDavis: rt @kingisafink: Yup. RT @grking: @jeannevb
knowledge of structure gives you confidence to break it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:52 am
@elizabethkarr: @beingbrad that old 'exception proves the
rule' cliche. #MyDinnerWithAndre. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@joda07: @beingbrad Oi! You told me that was an awesome
movie! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber Is this good or bad? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@AndiWritesAgain: RT @jeannevb: #PIMPtipoftheday: RT
@grking: @jeannevb knowledge of structure gives you confidence to break it
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@writeforfilm: Classic short stories make the best movies .
. http://t.co/wp0VdRpt #screenwriting #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@willentrekin: RT @joda07: RT @StephanieQueen @FilmTony
Characters always dictate events - except if they live in a Dan Brown novel.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@jeannevb: Oops... haha horror.. let me check RT
@Dark_Emergence: @jeannevb What is the movie for the next movie night?
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@dianewms: #scriptchat I had a great week with WGA boarder
James Bonett who said that conflict drives the story. And that's what keeps it
interesting.
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@kim_garland: RT @jeannevb: If you ever want to know what
#scriptchat topic will be, look here: http://t.co/dzawfGvN
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@queenofinbtween: RT @jeannevb: #PIMPtipoftheday: RT
@grking: @jeannevb knowledge of structure gives you confidence to break it
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@joda07: @SKCOMEDY I think that was called
"seinfeld"... *ducks*. Ok just kidding.n #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@DimitriDavis: Reader should be thinking "Wow" by
the end of page 2. @TheLoneOlive #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:53 am
@TheLoneOlive: @bradriddell plus i find that is what
production companies ask me for after logline gets them interested. do you?
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@Jamie_LD: @dianewms No conflict = boring #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @dianewms: #scriptchat I had a great week
with WGA boarder James Bonett who said that conflict drives the story. And
that's what keeps it interesting.
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD well, it will ultimately make the script
stronger. but after a certain amount of time, you lose enthusiasm for scripts
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@beingbrad: @joda07 it is, but I don't know why
(structurally). It's an anomaly. But you have to watch it. Please watch it.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@IngridElkner: We need to do a chat on scene structure.
That's written about & taught much less. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@SKCOMEDY: For me, it works as a kind of cerebral Abbott and
Costello road movie@beingbrad And what about MY DINNER WITH ANDRE? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@JAEL488: RT @JennaAvery: @DimitriDavis Too true.
Interesting @FilmTony says to stay attached! #scriptchat #psychology #useful
#scriptchat @JAEL488
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber Is it TV or a feature? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:54 am
@DimitriDavis: Yes, yes, and yes. Doing "conflict
outlines" is great for your story. rt @Jamie_LD: @dianewms No conflict =
boring #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@LisaGProsek: Yes! I'd love that! RT @IngridElkner: We need
to do a chat on scene structure. Thats written about & taught much less.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@joda07: Vote +1! RT @IngridElkner: We need to do a chat on
scene structure. Thats written about & taught much less. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@art1032: @Jamie_LDnn@dianewms No conflict = boring
#scriptchat Which= NO SALE.
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@bradriddell: @TheLoneOlive I've worked w producers who
demand them. But 4 specs, lets me know if I'm onto something before getting two
deep. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@DimitriDavis: rt @IngridElkner: We need to do a chat on
scene structure. Thats written about & taught much less. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@FilmTony: @TheLoneOlive Not necessarily true. Only true if
u don't get an audience to care about chars until the inciting incident happens
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@Jamie_LD: @DimitriDavis I always type a line on my cards
(what is the conflict in this scene?) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD feature. i'd never work on a pilot for 18
months. even total structural overhaul only takes a few weeks on those.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@Carterkalel: RT @jeannevb: If you ever want to know what
#scriptchat topic will be, look here: http://t.co/RqLBUUJB
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@joda07: @beingbrad It's on my list! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@SKCOMEDY: @joda07 You better duck! Seinfeld has (had?)
amazing, intricate structure. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:55 am
@DimitriDavis: Do this! rt @Jamie_LD: @DimitriDavis I always
type a line on my cards (what is the conflict in this scene?) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@JAEL488: RT @malber: @Jamie_LD feature. i'd never work on a
pilot for 18 months. even total structural overhaul only takes a few weeks on
those. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@jeannevb: Next week is MOVIE NIGHT - watch/read POLTERGEIST
http://t.co/JOJ30iXY #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@grking: @jeannevb Great video on Storytelling Techniques
from Matt Stone/Trey Parker http://t.co/nBka7cse - invaluable to me #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@dianewms: @TheLoneOlive #scriptchat By p5 I want to know
who the main character is and what they want. Why they can't get it should
follow soon.
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@120pgs: RT @kim_garland: RT @jeannevb: If you ever want to
know what #scriptchat topic will be, look here: http://t.co/dzawfGvN
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@thetissuetalk: @DimitriDavis Conflict outlines! That sounds
like a superb method. Will have to try that out. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@beingbrad: If you know what your chars want, do everything
to keep them from getting it while they do everything to try and get it
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@elizabethkarr: RT @TheLoneOlive ...especially for contests,
the inciting incident better be by page 5 now a days. 10 is really pushing it.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@AndiWritesAgain: RT @jeannevb: Next week is MOVIE NIGHT -
watch/read POLTERGEIST http://t.co/JOJ30iXY #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:56 am
@Dark_Emergence: Thanks RT @jeannevb: Next week is MOVIE
NIGHT - watch/read POLTERGEIST http://t.co/hxXLFFWN #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@JAEL488: Their here #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@gregstorm: @_ROOMIE I like that approach. Especially for
dramatic TV. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@joda07: @SKCOMEDY Lol. I knows. It's awesome. I was
kidding. They always branded it a "show abt nothing". #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@art1032: RT @jeannevb: Next week is MOVIE NIGHT -
watch/read POLTERGEIST http://t.co/JOJ30iXY #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@TheLoneOlive: @DimitriDavis agree. most execs barely read
past page 1. actor said recently he knows by page one if he should bother to
read #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD that's why i like tv stuff more, because
i can hold the entirety of the story in my head easier. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@art1032: RT @grking: @jeannevb Great video on Storytelling
Techniques from Matt Stone/Trey Parker http://t.co/nBka7cse - invaluable to me
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@beingbrad: @joda07 it better be. you didn't come all the
way to my city to not see me so you could avoid watching that movie. :)
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber Thought that seemed long for TV, but you
never know. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@_ROOMIE: Who was it said best scenes have 3 layers of
conflict intrapersonal, interpersonal + circumstancial? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@DimitriDavis: @thetissuetalk There's a fantastic method
taught by @ScreenwritingU on outlining via conflict. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@FilmTony: RT @beingbrad: If u know what ur chars want, do
everything to keep them from getting it while they do everything to try &
get it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber If I'm working exclusively on a project
for TV, I can get from start to finish in 5 weeks or less. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@beingbrad: @joda07 And I take no responsibility for not
seeing you. I blame the children. I always blame the f**ing children.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:57 am
@kim_garland: I watch this movie... a lot. *blush* RT
@jeannevb: Next week is MOVIE NIGHT - watch/read POLTERGEIST
http://t.co/nap5x3DW #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:58 am
@jeannevb: @Dark_Emergence thanks for reminding me to pimp
it! #busypimpstuckinrewrites #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:58 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD i just finished the first draft of a new
feature, though. i'm very excited. hope to sell it this year! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:58 am
@DimitriDavis: @TheLoneOlive It's clear in the writing. All
the more reason to make your first pages brilliant. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:58 am
@SKCOMEDY: @elizabethkarr Where's the inciting incident in
Groundhog Day? When he wakes up and its still Groundhog Day? That's page 25!
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:58 am
@joda07: RT @beingbrad: If u know what ur chars want, do
everything 2 keep them from getting it while they do everything to try &
get it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:58 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber *whispers* I want to read. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:58 am
@AndiWritesAgain: @jeannevb That movie scared the #$%@ out
of me after having been told the entire premise & much of the dialogue.
#absent #scriptchat ;)
October 31, 2011, 12:58 am
@TheLoneOlive: @bradriddell yeah. i share them w/ my writing
group & let them get ripped apart. easy at that stage to evaluate what's
working #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:59 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber I'm getting a little too hooked on TV. 1
sitcom, 2 dramas with partners, and 2 dramas by myself. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:59 am
@FilmTony: @_ROOMIE No idea, but that sounds right.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:59 am
@DimitriDavis: RT @joda07: RT @beingbrad: If u know what ur
chars want, do everything 2 keep them from getting it while they do everything
to try & get it #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:59 am
@FilmTony: RT @_ROOMIE: Who was it said best scenes have 3
layers of conflict intrapersonal, interpersonal + circumstancial? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:59 am
@jeannevb: @AndiWritesAgain i shld force my kids to watch it
*puts pennies into therapy fund* #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 12:59 am
@Jamie_LD: See you back here in 30 minute for #tvwriterchat
We will be discussing Virtual Writing Groups. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:00 am
@beingbrad: @Jamie_LD TV is awesome. it's where things are
at right now. you don't have to focus on generic, internationally understood
fare #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:00 am
@Jamie_LD: @malber Can I walk the red carpet with you for
the premiere? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:00 am
@dianewms: #scriptchat My and my characters' #1 lament: It's
always sumthin'! Then you get what you wanted, but in a roundabout way.
October 31, 2011, 1:00 am
@art1032: RT @Jamie_LD: See you back here in 30 minute for
#tvwriterchat We will be discussing Virtual Writing Groups. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:00 am
@_ROOMIE: #scriptchat ah, here it is 3 layers of conflict:
http://t.co/KZDNfACz
October 31, 2011, 1:00 am
@elizabethkarr: @SKCOMEDY Groundhog Day was awhile back.
@TheLoneOlive made point that inciting incident needs to be by p5/10 2day. U
disagree? #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:00 am
@beingbrad: @Jamie_LD @malber I want to design your gown.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:01 am
@malber: @beingbrad @jamie_LD agreed. it's the golden age of
tv. movies are all remake and pre-sold IP. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:01 am
@jeannevb: This is where we type "FADE OUT" ...
thanks all for joining in on the structure topic! I'll have the transcript up
soon. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:01 am
@IngridElkner: @jeannevb Well I haven't seen Poltergeist
since I was 4 years old and I turned out fine >:) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:01 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD let's hold on on gown planning until it
sells (which, btw, a fortune cookie promised me it would) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:01 am
@SharkGoddess: RT @TVWriterChat: Don't forget, at 6:30pm
Pacific #tvwriterchat is discussing starting a virtual writer's group.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:01 am
@Molly_Pinkerton: RT @TVWriterChat: Don't forget, at 6:30pm
Pacific #tvwriterchat is discussing starting a virtual writer's group.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:01 am
@Jamie_LD: @beingbrad My gown or Mike's? #tvwriterchat
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:02 am
@beingbrad: @malber unless you've got the cash and hutzpah
to make and finance your own, it's a tough world for non-superhero stories.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:02 am
@jeannevb: Keep tossing out nuggets while I grab transcript.
Don't forget next wk is MOVIE NIGHT http://t.co/iBc1Mk84 #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:02 am
@malber: @Jamie_LD @beingbrad but i do look lovely in a
backless dress #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:02 am
@Jamie_LD: @SKCOMEDY yes, there is a transcript at
http://www.tvwriterchat.com #tvwriterchat #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:02 am
@jeannevb: @IngridElkner phew ;) #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:02 am
@sethruffer: The Ides of March-inciting incident doesn't
happen til past page 30 (I think 38)..but we can't discount importance of
structure #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:02 am
@DimitriDavis: rt @jeannevb: Keep tossing out nuggets while
I grab transcript. Dont forget next wk is MOVIE NIGHT http://t.co/GfdSAtzX
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:02 am
@SarahAlexis4: Enjoyed lurking tonight and absorbing
everybody's thoughts. Thanks for sharing. Hope everybody has a good writing
week! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:03 am
@jeannevb: Bottom of the hour is #tvwriterchat... all are
welcome! #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:03 am
@JasmineMcAtee: RT @Jamie_LD: RT @GregStorm: Why be
portable? Nothing says #writer like waiting for ur double mocca w/ a 4foot x
3foot corkboard under ur arm #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:03 am
@sethruffer: because the best way to play around with
structure is to know it through and though (which I damned well don't....)
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:03 am
@gregstorm: A structural challenge is trying to write 10
page scripts that tell full story while addressing series arcs #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:03 am
@beingbrad: @Jamie_LD @malber I'll do both. Mike will look
stunning in sequins, while Jamie will look stunning in anything. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:03 am
@IngridElkner: I wrote my hand off today! For easy-to-read
highlights from past chats, check out http://t.co/kbulLPCo - Screenwriters
Anonymous #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:03 am
@JAEL488: Awesome chat tonight #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:03 am
@steele_bob: @SKCOMEDY interesting point regarding Groundhog
Day. The atypical structure worked well for me. #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:04 am
@art1032: So great tonight, lots of great info! Night
#treefort #scriptchat:)
October 31, 2011, 1:04 am
@DimitriDavis: Really looking forward to next week's chat
about writing #HORROR! #favoritegenre #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:04 am
@TheLoneOlive: @FilmTony what? that makes no sense. inciting
should never be most exciting thing. conflict should be. inciting is launch
point #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:04 am
@AndiWritesAgain: @jeannevb Yeah, you do that
Mama-O-the-Year. My kids: MOM! It's just a movie! Can you make me some popcorn?
#truestory #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:04 am
@DimitriDavis: rt @sethruffer: the best way to play around
with structure is to know it through and though (which I damned well dont...)
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:04 am
@ben_diagram: RT @IngridElkner: I wrote my hand off today!
For easy-to-read highlights from past chats, check out http://t.co/kbulLPCo -
Screenwriters Anonymous #scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:05 am
@DimitriDavis: If it's easy for a moviegoer to tell their
friends what your movie was about and why it was awesome, you delivered.
#scriptchat
October 31, 2011, 1:07 am
