Transcript from Sunday June 27, 2010 - High Concept

There was no EURO chat because Twitter decided not to allow search, and Tweetchat.com complied. The North American chat was in and out, but I've added what there was of it. Sorry for the crappy chat night. Bad Twitter, bad, bad Twitter.

12:11 am	yeah_write:	Looks like we might be back. #scriptchat
12:11 am	RickRapier:	My what? Ahem. RT @dizzydentfilms: @RickRapier Your tweet is showing, but mine aren't. #scriptchat
12:11 am	LisaFromNYC:	I use tweetchat.com #scriptchat
12:11 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat I think it's working now. Non?
12:11 am	diannesalerni:	TweetChat has updated. Are we back? #scriptchat
12:11 am	dawnbierschwal:	Testing 1, 2, 3... #scriptchat
12:11 am	Timsn:	We're all missing it:( RT @jeannevb: *waving* at #scriptchat. hate missing it! #gapf
12:12 am	booksbelow:	@yeah_write could we hold it on the #scriptchat FB page with a string of comments? I checked the Ning site, but won't come up.
12:12 am	Timsn:	I'm getting tweetchat now #scriptchat
12:12 am	yeah_write:	Are we back? #scriptchat
12:12 am	dawnbierschwal:	Houston, we have lift off. #scriptchat
12:12 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat @cinematicshot kept on bugging me with his obsession with high concept. I didn't really get what it was until now.
12:12 am	yeah_write:	Better late than never. lol #scriptchat
12:12 am	lizziside:	Tweetchat is posting but won't show updates in there #scriptchat
12:12 am	diannesalerni:	Quick, before it disappears -- what is High Concept? #scriptchat
12:12 am	cinematicshot:	#scriptchat Invisible tweeting. High concept!
12:13 am	dawnbierschwal:	OK, let's do this! #scriptchat
12:13 am	yeah_write:	Okay folks, let's enjoy it while it's up. Even if really slow. Tonight's topic is High concept. #scriptchat
12:21 am	RickRapier:	Well, I hope someone gets something out of tonight's cluster. Best to everyone who hit it hard at #GAPF. Nite #scriptchat ters wherever U R.
12:21 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat High concept is, to put it in vulgar terms, a gimmick. As in Little Miss Sunshine. The beauty contest.
12:21 am	dawnbierschwal:	That's Avon Man 4 me! RT @thembob: HC ideas should be clever yet simple. makes other writers say, "why didn't I think of that?" #scriptchat
12:21 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat Sunshine Cleaning: Protag starts making a living cleaning crime scenes.
12:21 am	yeah_write:	RT @thembob: #scriptchat High Concept if, when you tell it to someone, they get excited and start telling you what happens next in the story
12:22 am	blankethouse:	@yeah_write I had an uncle like that: high concept! #scriptchat
12:22 am	Timsn:	RT @GCGeek: I know the #ScriptChat site is having issues. I found an article today about high concept... http://www.scriptforsale.com/james.shtml
12:22 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat Blades of Glory: two male skaters pair up
12:22 am	booksbelow:	High concept is an ironic term referring to an artistic work that can be easily described by succinctly stated premise-Wikipedia #scriptchat
12:22 am	cinematicshot:	#scriptchat It's the cliche "unique but familiar"
12:22 am	LisaFromNYC:	This is slooow. My prev tweet still hasn't posted. I wonder if this one will. hmm... #scriptchat
12:22 am	KatherineCahoon:	One of my favorite high concept movies is Mean Girls. What is yours? #scriptchat
12:23 am	CheekyWench:	*streaks* through #scriptchat
12:23 am	Timsn:	On right now RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat Blades of Glory: two male skaters pair up
12:23 am	yeah_write:	Tweetchat is back up for the time. #scriptchat
12:23 am	diannesalerni:	Ok, I see why Blades of Glory fits the definition. What are some other examples? #scriptchat
12:24 am	cinematicshot:	#scriptchat Alien: a monster movie in outer space.
12:24 am	SPCWriter:	The #ScriptChat tweets are showing up for me so not sure what the problem is?
12:24 am	dawnbierschwal:	@diannesalerni Snakes on a Plane, Jaws, Avon Man #scriptchat
12:24 am	dizzydentfilms:	@diannesalerni #scriptchat The upcoming Butter. It's about a butter sculpting competition.
12:24 am	yeah_write:	People should smile or laugh when you tell it. #scriptchat
12:25 am	cinematicshot:	#scriptchat Die Hard in a _____.
12:25 am	yeah_write:	So what goes into a high concept pitch? #scriptchat
12:25 am	diannesalerni:	RT @booksbelow: Extreme example of high concept film is Snakes on a Plane which put its entire premise in the movie title itself #scriptchat
12:25 am	booksbelow:	RT @dawnbierschwal: @diannesalerni Snakes on a Plane, Jaws, Avon Man #scriptchat
12:25 am	LisaFromNYC:	@dawnbierschwal "Snakes on a Plane" is about as high as you get. lol #scriptchat
12:25 am	cinematicshot:	@dawnbierschwal Snakes on a Plane perfect example #scriptchat
12:25 am	zombiepal:	RT @GCGeek: My favorite high concept: A young Jedi knight narrowly avoids sleeping with his sister before the second sequel. #scriptchat
12:25 am	sdarancette:	@booksbelow Then any pitch is high concept because most studio execs want to only hear succinctly stated premises #scriptchat
12:26 am	dawnbierschwal:	People can "see" the movie's potential instantly from the concept. #scriptchat
12:26 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat Frozen River: smuggling illegal aliens is not exactly original. Across a frozen river is. Same, but different.
12:26 am	GeePawHill:	@booksbelow hmmmm. seems more like mono-concept to me, and a low one at that. #scriptchat
12:26 am	yeah_write:	RT @LisaFromNYC: @dawnbierschwal "Snakes on a Plane" is about as high as you get. lol #scriptchat
12:26 am	diannesalerni:	RT @zombiepal: RT @GCGeek: High concept: A young Jedi knight narrowly avoids sleeping with his sister before the second sequel. #scriptchat
12:26 am	jmiewald:	Exactly. RT @sdarancette Then any pitch is high concept because most studio execs want to only hear succinctly stated premises #scriptchat
12:27 am	dawnbierschwal:	HC must have a ?2nd level of sell? or won?t be enough depth to sustain concept? often the love story. Liar Liar good example #scriptchat
12:27 am	cinematicshot:	#scriptchat Shaun of the Dead: a rom-com w/ zombies. A zom-com
12:27 am	yeah_write:	So does anyone want to share a real or fake one sentence high concept pitch? #scriptchat
12:27 am	thewritertype:	#scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane.
12:27 am	booksbelow:	I think most High Concept films should more properly be called Low Concept :-) #scriptchat
12:27 am	LisaFromNYC:	For a couple of comedy scripts I have, HC is actually being able to see the logline in posters I made #scriptchat
12:27 am	dawnbierschwal:	High Concept not just succinctly stated but easily Marketable... #scriptchat
12:27 am	WriterSchilf:	HC: Jaws = man vs creature. Twister = man vs disaster. Gladiator = man vs man. 1 word title; we get the whole film #scriptchat
12:28 am	dizzydentfilms:	RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane.
12:28 am	yeah_write:	@dizzydentfilms BUTTER was on 2008 Blacklist. I just got the script. Can't wait to read. #scriptchat
12:28 am	jolenejahnke:	Apologies to #scriptchat crew... mad game of Cities & Knights Catan
12:28 am	booksbelow:	LOL! RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane.
12:28 am	WriterSchilf:	In a pitch, the title is a huge part of the HC. Wedding Crashers. Home Alone. RoboCop. It's just obvious #scriptchat
12:29 am	GCGeek:	@LisaFromNYC Is the logline synonymous with high concept or are they different? #scriptchat
12:29 am	yeah_write:	RT @WriterSchilf: In a pitch, the title is a huge part of the HC. Wedding Crashers. Home Alone. RoboCop. Its just obvious #scriptchat
12:29 am	LisaFromNYC:	hehe RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane #scriptchat
12:29 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat Lars and the Blow Up Doll: typical indie high concept crap
12:29 am	sdarancette:	great classical examples from the drug-fueled 80's: TOP GUN, GHOSTBUSTERS, BEVERLY HILLS COP, DIE HARD. #scriptchat #drugsmakebettermovies
12:29 am	cinematicshot:	Buried: A thriller in a coffin #scriptchat
12:29 am	dawnbierschwal:	The easier it is for the studio to get excited about w/few words.. the easier they know it is to sell, regardless of cast #scriptchat
12:29 am	lizziside:	I can't see why HC pitches effectively with respect to LC #scriptchat
12:29 am	yeah_write:	@WriterSchilf My current WIP is call Soccer Mom. It's the one liner afterward that makes it HC #scriptchat
12:31 am	yeah_write:	When the faces in the room light up after you deliver your pitch, you know you've got them. That's what High Concept is about. #scriptchat
12:32 am	yeah_write:	And down again.... #scriptchat
12:34 am	CDominiqueG:	@yeah_write Ok I missed a few minutes ... for slow people like myself, what's High Concept Film??? #scriptchat
12:34 am	LisaFromNYC:	testing 1...2...3.... #scriptchat
12:35 am	Timsn:	Frozen another great high concept movie #scriptchat
12:35 am	CheekyWench:	I hope that was high concept enough :( RT @CDominiqueG: RT @CheekyWench: *streaks* through/// interesting #scriptchat
12:35 am	yeah_write:	@CDominiqueG The chat isn't working, so you haven't missed much, if anything. #scriptchat
12:35 am	CDominiqueG:	I'm sorry who's hosting today??? #scriptchat
12:35 am	dawnbierschwal:	The script I'm working on now is High Concept... as soon as I had the idea a dozen trailer scenes were in my head. #scriptchat
12:36 am	GCGeek:	RT @LisaFromNYC logline is a brief statement/s on what script is. If HC, logline is easier to shorten. LC, takes bit more (2 me) #scriptchat
12:36 am	AbdurRabb:	RT @CDominiqueG: I'm sorry who's hosting today??? #scriptchat
12:36 am	WriterSchilf:	HC is also often something "meets" something. eg: Die Hard in High School #scriptchat
12:36 am	yeah_write:	@WriterSchilf There is a twist to the typical soccer mom, but I'm not giving it up just yet. #scriptchat
12:36 am	thewritertype:	#scriptchat My second novel is called Dead Writers in Rehab. If it works for films, it can work for books. I hope.
12:36 am	CDominiqueG:	@CheekyWench he he he... definitely high concept #scriptchat
12:36 am	LisaFromNYC:	@GCGeek logline is a brief sentence/s on what script is. If HC, the logline is easier to shorten. LC, takes a bit more (to me) #scriptchat
12:36 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat @sdarancette What about Hitchcock?
12:36 am	GCGeek:	@LisaFromNYC Thank you! #scriptchat
12:36 am	CDominiqueG:	is high concept film anything like concept cars? *I promise I'm trying* #scriptchat
12:37 am	LisaFromNYC:	@GCGeek TY. I had to retweet it because it didn't show up :( #scriptchat
12:37 am	dawnbierschwal:	If they studio exec says "I want to read it after just log line you can be pretty sure it's HC. #scriptchat
12:37 am	diannesalerni:	Can we guess? RT @yeah_write: @WriterSchilf There is a twist to the typical soccer mom, but Im not giving it up just yet. #scriptchat
12:37 am	Timsn:	RT @AbdurRabb: RT @CDominiqueG: I'm sorry who's hosting today??? #scriptchat @yeah_write is hosting
12:37 am	cinematicshot:	@yeah_write the soccer mom's a virgin! #scriptchat
12:37 am	booksbelow:	The Birds, Psycho- pretty much tell the story! RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat @sdarancette What about Hitchcock?
12:37 am	yeah_write:	RT @dawnbierschwal: If they studio exec says "I want to read it after just log line you can be pretty sure its HC. #scriptchat
12:37 am	ozzywood:	Howdy from Sydney! #scriptchat
12:38 am	yeah_write:	Immaculate conception. Thanks for giving it away. lol RT @cinematicshot: @yeah_write the soccer moms a virgin! #scriptchat
12:38 am	ozzywood:	Does HC change over the years? Watched DAYS OF THUNDER last night and it didn't feel HC any longer. #scriptchat
12:38 am	yeah_write:	Good to have you here, as long as the chat is still working. RT @ozzywood: Howdy from Sydney! #scriptchat
12:38 am	dawnbierschwal:	I think HC is not just about brevity... it's about relatability, emotion and the ability to "see" the movie with just few words. #scriptchat
12:38 am	KatherineCahoon:	@yeah_write I read it a few months ago! #scriptchat
12:38 am	sdarancette:	RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat @sdarancette What about Hitchcock? Hmm good point. His ideas were broad, too #scriptchat.
12:38 am	ozzywood:	The definition of HC in the 90's was: "Simpson/Bruckheimer". #scriptchat
12:39 am	midos_mom:	Can't follow #scriptchat this eve. Will go out for drinking al fresco instead. Next time!
12:39 am	diannesalerni:	Soccer Mom & the Zombie Lover; Soccer Mom: Mafia Godmother; Soccer Mom: The Spy Who Loved Everyone @Yeah_Write How 'm I doin'? #scriptchat
12:39 am	KageyNYC:	Good question. RT @ozzywood: Does HC change over the years? Watched DAYS OF THUNDER last night and it didn't feel HC any longer. #scriptchat
12:39 am	CDominiqueG:	@yeah_write Im still confused :-( #scriptchat
12:39 am	sdarancette:	I wonder because critics mostly consider high concept recent popcorn fluff they won't mention Hitchcock in the same breath #scriptchat
12:40 am	yeah_write:	About? RT @CDominiqueG: @yeah_write Im still confused :-( #scriptchat
12:40 am	cinematicshot:	Days of Thunder had that Tom Cruise formula though. Cocky young hot shot learns humility and wins in the end #scriptchat
12:40 am	iamJaymes:	*appears* hello #scriptchat
12:40 am	CDominiqueG:	RT @cinematicshot: Buried: A thriller in a coffin /// lol #scriptchat
12:40 am	sdarancette:	I still like my COUNTER INTELLIGENCE idea, no one is applauding yet? #scriptchat #ideasareeasystoriesarehard
12:40 am	ozzywood:	HC changes over time. RT @sdarancette: critics mostly consider high concept recent popcorn fluff they wont mention Hitchcock #scriptchat
12:40 am	yeah_write:	Not even close. RT @diannesalerni: Soccer Mom & the Zombie Lover; Soccer Mom: Mafia Godmother; Soccer Mom: ...How 'm I doin'? #scriptchat
12:41 am	CDominiqueG:	@Timsn thanks sweetie #scriptchat
12:41 am	dawnbierschwal:	@ozzywood Can't even remember what Days of Thunder was about...other than race cars... was it HC? #scriptchat
12:41 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat cnt get more HC than Wages of Fear: 3 blokes risk their lives 2 deliver nitroglycerin across rugged terrain in South America
12:41 am	SPCWriter:	hmm ok, there does seem to be a delay or something? #ScriptChat
12:41 am	WriterSchilf:	HC: Take the norm and flip it. e.g. Daddy Day Care. Don't even need a logline. Studio see entire movie in title alone #scriptchat
12:41 am	BigfootandGray:	You have to be careful a lot of High Concepts are Low Character. Even the greatest idea can fail without a good character story. #scriptchat
12:41 am	CDominiqueG:	@yeah_write what's High Concept ... I wasn't paying much attention, Im trying to learn #scriptchat
12:41 am	booksbelow:	Jurassic Park would seem to be a good example #scriptchat
12:41 am	yeah_write:	You can take an old worn out story and put a freaky new twist on it to make it HC. #scriptchat
12:41 am	ozzywood:	Exactly. It was back then! RT @dawnbierschwal: @ozzywood Cant even remember what Days of Thunder was about..other than race cars #scriptchat
12:42 am	dizzydentfilms:	@filmhana It's not a bad thing. But it's about the only thing that will sell. #scriptchat
12:42 am	dawnbierschwal:	Exactly! RT @WriterSchilf: HC: Take the norm and flip it. e.g. Daddy Day Care. Dont even need a logline. #scriptchat
12:42 am	ozzywood:	Agreed. RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat cnt get more HC than Wages of Fear #scriptchat
12:42 am	sdarancette:	I got another: Inspired by the serials of the 40's and 50's. An adventurer is sent to find a holy relic that is wanted by nazis #scriptchat
12:42 am	dawnbierschwal:	@ozzywood But if it was high concept, shouldn't I remember it? #scriptchat
12:42 am	ozzywood:	RT @booksbelow: Jurassic Park would seem to be a good example #scriptchat
12:43 am	yeah_write:	@CDominiqueG HC is the type of script that can sell itself on the one line pitch. It has such a wide appeal that studio want. #scriptchat
12:45 am	MinouChatte:	RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane.
12:45 am	iamJaymes:	@yeah_write @CDominiqueG example "SNAKES ON A PLANE!" "omg let's make that movie" *movie flops* Not all HC movies work xD #scriptchat
12:45 am	ozzywood:	I guess SAVE THE CAT has a lot of wisdom on (high) concept. #scriptchat
12:45 am	dawnbierschwal:	High Concept sells the ticket. The secondary stories make it something you want to see again. #scriptchat
12:45 am	iamJaymes:	I hate not having tweetchat, having to add the #scriptchat myself is quite the pain in the rear.
12:45 am	sdarancette:	RT @ozzywood: HC in the 90's was: "Simpson/Bruckheimer". - Check out book HIGH CONCEPT by Charles Fleming. #scriptchat
12:45 am	cinematicshot:	RT @sdarancette: I got another: Inspired by the serials of the 40's and 50's. An adventurer is sent to find a holy relic that is wanted by nazis #scriptchat
12:45 am	yeah_write:	RT @WriterSchilf: A logline create interest 4 studio 2 read. but HC logline, studio doesn't have 2 read. they C the movie alrdy. #scriptchat
12:46 am	CDominiqueG:	@iamJaymes ahhh. ok now I get it. thanks :-D #scriptchat
12:46 am	yeah_write:	@iamJaymes Tweetchat is www.tweetchat.com it's a web site. #scriptchat
12:46 am	KatherineCahoon:	@WriterSchilf Agreed! #scriptchat
12:46 am	dawnbierschwal:	RT @WriterSchilf: A logline can create interest for studio to read. but HC logline, studio doesn't have to read. #scriptchat
12:47 am	ozzywood:	Not very useful to define HC in terms of its OUTCOME (studio interested) when you're looking for a HC yourself. #scriptchat
12:47 am	GCGeek:	Do you shoot for a title that is HC if possible, or only if it really works? #scriptchat
12:47 am	yeah_write:	RT @dawnbierschwal: High Concept sells the ticket. The secondary stories make it something you want to see again. #scriptchat
12:47 am	dawnbierschwal:	@WriterSchilf It;s sold BEFORE they read the script. They just read to know if they're going to need another writer! : ) #scriptchat
12:47 am	jmiewald:	HC is an easily marketable film that will make money on opening weekend. I.e., the only movies made anymore. #scriptchat
12:47 am	LisaFromNYC:	Once u pitch it, others have to pitch it as well, Snakes on a plane makes an easy pitch to recall. visual, succint etc.. #scriptchat
12:47 am	sdarancette:	RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat Fish out of water stories seem to fit it almost instantly. BH Cop, Kindergarden Cop...
12:48 am	Timsn:	A HC logline can be great but -- great concept, bad movie happens a lot #scriptchat
12:48 am	dawnbierschwal:	I think HC is usually timeless. #scriptchat
12:48 am	yeah_write:	When the execs start telling you what happens next, that is HC pitch. And you just sold it! lol #scriptchat
12:48 am	sdarancette:	Then there is RACIST COP, then CLOWN COP, then MALL COP (shit they did that one!) COP COP, SPACE COP, DOG COP #scriptchat
12:49 am	yeah_write:	Our wonderful Twitter writer, @thembob wrote HC when he wrote KILLERS. #scriptchat
12:49 am	ozzywood:	Now that's only for your entertainment!! LOL (very rare BTW) RT @sdarancette: Check out book HIGH CONCEPT by Charles Fleming. #scriptchat
12:49 am	dawnbierschwal:	Yes, and to a potential audience RT @LisaFromNYC: Once u pitch it, others have to pitch it as well... #scriptchat
12:49 am	yeah_write:	RT @thembob: High concept ideas should be so clever yet simple that makes all other writers say, "why didn't I think of that?" #scriptchat
12:50 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat Wizard of Oz was a 1939 film. HC has been around for a long time.
12:50 am	sdarancette:	HC films are usually a product of packaging, an action star looking for a script they can fashion to fit him. #scriptchat
12:50 am	Timsn:	@jmiewald Once in a while you get a good movie like Winters Bone but mostly you're righ! #scriptchat
12:50 am	yeah_write:	RT @thembob: Your idea is High Concept if, when you tell it to someone, they get excited and start telling u what happens next #scriptchat
12:50 am	dawnbierschwal:	Oh just read that script. Bravo! RT @yeah_write: Our wonderful Twitter writer, @thembob wrote HC when he wrote KILLERS. #scriptchat
12:50 am	ozzywood:	So how do you define HC in creative terms? While you're working on it? Not many have privilege of 'testing' with studios. #scriptchat
12:50 am	sdarancette:	@ozzywood Its available on amazon. #scriptchat
12:50 am	The_Jodi:	Hmmmm. Almost as if HC is a double edged sword. At least in the sense that what SHOULD be fun often isn't upon execution. #scriptchat
12:51 am	ozzywood:	RT @yeah_write: RT @thembob: HC should be so clever yet simple that makes all other writers say, "why didnt I think of that?" #scriptchat
12:51 am	yeah_write:	RT @dawnbierschwal: I think HC is usually timeless. #scriptchat
12:51 am	ozzywood:	RT @sdarancette: HC films are usually a product of packaging, an action star looking for a script they can fashion to fit him. #scriptchat
12:51 am	dawnbierschwal:	High Concept can sell with unknown cast. #scriptchat
12:51 am	WriterSchilf:	Let's be honest. Show business is a business. $$$! And HC fuels film business. HC = they SEE ENTIRE FILM in a word or 2. #scriptchat
12:52 am	scott_logie:	Late to #scriptchat. I think HC films also have some predicability in the second act. Not a bad thing, the outcome still needs to be novel.
12:52 am	thewritertype:	RT @dawnbierschwal: High Concept sells the ticket. The secondary stories make it something you want to see again. #scriptchat
12:52 am	ozzywood:	The more I think about it, the more I disagree. RT @yeah_write: RT @dawnbierschwal: I think HC is usually timeless. #scriptchat
12:52 am	yeah_write:	@thembob couldn't be with us tonight, because he's traveling, but he did give my those tidbits to include in the chat. Thanks. #scriptchat
12:53 am	ozzywood:	So we have 2 TYPES OF HC: 1) HC Package and 2) HC Idea. RT @dawnbierschwal: High Concept can sell with unknown cast. #scriptchat
12:53 am	cinematicshot:	When selling a script how important is concept compared to storytelling? #scriptchat #scriptchat
12:53 am	Timsn:	Usually HC involves a star. #scriptchat
12:54 am	WriterSchilf:	@The_Jodi Execution is of little concern. HC can be packaged, marketed, make it's money in the first weekend. HC sells tickets #scriptchat
12:54 am	Timsn:	RT @yeah_write: Exactly! RT @WriterSchilf: Lets be honest. Show business is a business. $$$! #scriptchat
12:54 am	dawnbierschwal:	@ozzywood What's a high concept movie that isn't? #scriptchat
12:54 am	ozzywood:	HC sells without story. RT @cinematicshot: When selling a script how important is concept compared to storytelling? #scriptchat #scriptchat
12:54 am	lizziside:	Maybe with time HC has taken to look more&more like a marketing tool rather than a creative process #scriptchat
12:54 am	yeah_write:	@cinematicshot Win them over with the concept, then dazzle the crap out of them with the storytelling, or they'll get new writer #scriptchat
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12:54 am	dizzydentfilms:	RT @cinematicshot: When selling a script how important is concept compared to storytelling? #scriptchat You and your hard questions James!
12:54 am	WriterSchilf:	@cinematicshot Everything. U can have a great concept and horrible execution. Studio buys your script, then rewrites it. #scriptchat
12:55 am	LifesizeLD:	HC will get you a read, but it takes execution to pull off a sale. #scriptchat
12:55 am	thewritertype:	@ozzywood #scriptchat Maybe HC changes over time bcs part of what makes it HC is novelty, even if it combines old in new way.
12:56 am	yeah_write:	Since we got a late start, would anyone be interested in going a little over time? #scriptchat
12:56 am	booksbelow:	RT @yeah_write: Win them over with the concept, then dazzle the crap out of them with the storytelling-or they'll get new writer #scriptchat
12:56 am	dawnbierschwal:	@ozzywood Or Highly Marketable Package v. High Concept Idea. You can sell Low concept with great cast "OnN Golden Pond" #scriptchat
12:56 am	sdarancette:	Many times writers with clout will just pitch a HC to an exec and get a script deal to write the film. No story yet. #scriptchat
12:56 am	dizzydentfilms:	#scriptchat More & more my thinking is, unless it's 4 u 2 direct, dont bother writing it unless it's HC. ive sevrl of those scripts.
12:56 am	ozzywood:	RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat HC changes over time bcs part of what makes it HC is novelty, even if it combines old in new way. #scriptchat
12:57 am	WriterSchilf:	Thre are a lot of bad HC movies that make $. But if you're smart, you write HC with great characters. #scriptchat
12:57 am	ozzywood:	RT @dawnbierschwal Highly Marketable Package v. High Concept Idea. You can sell Low concept with great cast "OnN Golden Pond" #scriptchat
12:57 am	dawnbierschwal:	Or another writer assigned. : ) RT @LifesizeLD: HC will get you a read, but it takes execution to pull off a sale. #scriptchat
12:57 am	ozzywood:	RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat unless its 4 u 2 direct, dont bother writing it unless its HC. ive sevrl of those scripts. #scriptchat
12:57 am	booksbelow:	Do we get time and a half? RT @yeah_write: Since we got a late start, would anyone be interested in going a little over time? #scriptchat
12:57 am	cinematicshot:	I guess execution gets you hired for writing assignments and concept sells your script #scriptchat #scriptchat
12:58 am	ozzywood:	RT @WriterSchilf: Thre are a lot of bad HC movies that make $. But if youre smart, you write HC with great characters. #scriptchat
12:58 am	scott_logie:	Remember it's high _concept_. By the time you package, you're well beyond concept. A film is or isn't HC at the idea stage. #scriptchat
12:58 am	thewritertype:	RT @yeah_write Win them over with concept, dazzle the crap out of them with storytelling, or they'll get new writer #scriptchat
12:58 am	KageyNYC:	Bingo! RT @WriterSchilf: if you're smart, you write HC with great characters. #scriptchat
12:58 am	yeah_write:	If you have a great concept you can sell the idea If you can't tell the story well, the studio now owns it & will get new writer #scriptchat
12:59 am	cinematicshot:	@yeah_write I'll stick around a bit longer #scriptchat #scriptchat
12:59 am	GCGeek:	@yeah_write I believe there's at least 10 minutes of overage due in this World Cup chat #scriptchat
12:59 am	ozzywood:	Execution doesn't matter. @dawnbierschwal is right. You sell & leave. RT @LifesizeLD: it takes execution to pull off a sale. #scriptchat
12:59 am	lizziside:	@yeah_write It's 3AM over here in Italy and must get up early in the morning - so I'll pass.Thx and I'll read the transcript :-) #scriptchat
12:59 am	Timsn:	Can remakes and spinoffs be considered considered HC? #scriptchat
12:59 am	yeah_write:	Exactly. RT @scott_logie: By the time you package, youre well beyond concept. A film is or isnt HC at the idea stage. #scriptchat
12:59 am	WriterSchilf:	There are really 2 options. Write HC or a character driven script. e.g. The Wrestler. You sell to studio (HC) or to Actors #scriptchat
12:59 am	sdarancette:	And the 3-D craze lately I would put in the HC catagory. #scriptchat
12:59 am	yeah_write:	RT @KageyNYC: Bingo! RT @WriterSchilf: if youre smart, you write HC with great characters. #scriptchat
12:59 am	dizzydentfilms:	@cinematicshot #scriptchat Yup. We want to get paid to write crap dammit!
1:00 am	KatherineCahoon:	Did any of you attend #GAPF? How was it? #scriptchat
1:00 am	ozzywood:	RT @yeah_write: If you have a HC you sell the idea. If you cant tell the story well, studio now owns it & will get new writer #scriptchat
1:00 am	yeah_write:	If everyone wants to stick around, I'll keep the chat running for a bit before pulling the transcript. #scriptchat
1:00 am	diannesalerni:	@Timsn I think the Bewitched movie was supposed to be -- but it was just awful. #scriptchat
1:00 am	The_Jodi:	True re: execution :) There is the whole take the money and run concept! #scriptchat
1:00 am	ozzywood:	Alien vs. Predator? RT @Timsn: Can remakes and spinoffs be considered considered HC? #scriptchat
1:00 am	yeah_write:	@dawnbierschwal Aren't you all about HC in your writing? #scriptchat
1:01 am	rjtbaum:	RT @ozzywood: RT @yeah_write: If you have a HC you sell the idea. If you cant tell the story well, studio now owns it & will get new writer #scriptchat
1:01 am	dawnbierschwal:	That's execution, not concept. RT @sdarancette: And the 3-D craze lately I would put in the HC catagory. #scriptchat
1:01 am	ozzywood:	Wrong. Woody Allen won't be HC in 3D. RT @sdarancette: And the 3-D craze lately I would put in the HC catagory. #scriptchat
1:01 am	yeah_write:	Just getting paid would be nice. RT @dizzydentfilms: @cinematicshot #scriptchat Yup. We want to get paid to write crap dammit! #scriptchat
1:01 am	sdarancette:	RT @ozzywood: Alien vs. Predator? RT @Timsn: Can remakes and spinoffs be considered considered HC? #scriptchat - I say yes.
1:02 am	fungchen3:	@WriterSchilf Good advice. Classic example - Edward Norton w/ Down In The Valley #scriptchat
1:02 am	CDominiqueG:	@yeah_write my fake pitch : "Riot Fan" The final whistle doesn't end the game... #scriptchat
1:02 am	dawnbierschwal:	Totally. I won;t write if not. RT @yeah_write: @dawnbierschwal Arent you all about HC in your writing? #scriptchat
1:02 am	sdarancette:	Sequels are still HC if they are running with the same HC as the previous film. Almost all sequels are HC, it seems #scriptchat
1:02 am	cinematicshot:	Hannah and Her Sisters ... in 3D! #scriptchat #scriptchat
1:02 am	yeah_write:	I think I'll attend the Fade In Pitch Fest in August and pitch only HC. #scriptchat
1:03 am	dawnbierschwal:	I was so annoyed that I didn't coming up with Avon Man! #scriptchat
1:03 am	WriterSchilf:	Go HC, but make it original w/unforgettable characters. No one cares about Riddick, but Indian Jones is iconic #scriptchat
1:03 am	yeah_write:	Good one. lol RT @CDominiqueG: @yeah_write my fake pitch : "Riot Fan" The final whistle doesnt end the game... #scriptchat
1:03 am	ozzywood:	Would have been HC 15ys ago. RT @cinematicshot: Hannah and Her Sisters ... in 3D! #scriptchat #scriptchat
1:03 am	ozzywood:	RT @WriterSchilf: Go HC, but make it original w/unforgettable characters. No one cares about Riddick, but Indian Jones is iconic #scriptchat
1:03 am	CDominiqueG:	@KatherineCahoon thanks ! #scriptchat
1:03 am	sdarancette:	Even THE GODFATHER and the even better GODFATHER II are HC sequels. They just happen to be great stories too #scriptchat
1:04 am	thewritertype:	@Timsn #scriptchat Maybe remakes are most high concept of all, like Peter's idea in Family Guy: "Jaws meets Bigger Jaws."
1:04 am	KageyNYC:	Yes, good one. RT @ozzywood: Alien vs. Predator? RT @Timsn: Can remakes and spinoffs be considered considered HC? #scriptchat
1:04 am	yeah_write:	@diannesalerni Sending you a DM, cuz I know you want to know. lol #scriptchat
1:04 am	KatherineCahoon:	@CDominiqueG High Concept is a concept that can be succintly described...often in the title. Everyone says, "I get it!" #scriptchat
1:04 am	WriterSchilf:	Sometimes HC is already around u. I knew a group of guys that crashed weddings, but I never wrote Wedding Crashers #scriptchat
1:04 am	cinematicshot:	The A-Team Part B #scriptchat #scriptchat
1:05 am	diannesalerni:	@yeah_write Cool! If you're not using Soccer Mom and the Zombie Lover, I might go for it. LOL! #scriptchat
1:05 am	ruminski:	Quick hello to #scriptchat & a reminder - HC isn't just H'wood: PRIMER, PI, MOON, MEMENTO, and that's just off the top of my head...
1:05 am	scott_logie:	If HC films juxtapose two unexpected story elements, once it's been done once, it feels less HC to do it again (re: sequels) #scriptchat
1:05 am	yeah_write:	@WriterSchilf Or what about Gran Torino? #scriptchat
1:05 am	dawnbierschwal:	True! RT @WriterSchilf: Sometimes HC is already around u. I knew guys that crashed weddings, but I never wrote Wedding Crashers #scriptchat
1:06 am	CDominiqueG:	@yeah_write lol thought you'd like that, where'd @iamjaymes go? #scriptchat
1:06 am	yeah_write:	I want to read that. RT @diannesalerni: @yeah_write Cool! If youre not using Soccer Mom and the Zombie Lover, I might go for it #scriptchat
1:06 am	fungchen3:	Where would Rocky rate in terms of a HC script when being shopped by Sly in the 70s? #scriptchat
1:06 am	ozzywood:	True. Execution wasn't HC. RT @ruminski: HC isnt just Hwood: PRIMER, PI, MOON, MEMENTO, and thats just off the top of my head... #scriptchat
1:06 am	cinematicshot:	@WriterSchilf truth is stranger than fiction. Lots of ideas in the news alone. #scriptchat
1:06 am	WriterSchilf:	Once u embrace HC as the road to follow, make sure to fill entire iceberg with amazing characters #scriptchat
1:06 am	dawnbierschwal:	@yeah_write What's the concept of Gran Torino? #scriptchat
1:06 am	yeah_write:	RT @cinematicshot: @WriterSchilf truth is stranger than fiction. Lots of ideas in the news alone. #scriptchat
1:07 am	sdarancette:	@dawnbierschwal No I would include concept. The 3D films have simplier stories in order to serve the 3D more effiiciently . HC. #scriptchat
1:07 am	atul666:	RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane.
1:07 am	yeah_write:	As @WriterSchilf said, it's the stuff that goes on around you. You just have to keep asking "what if." #scriptchat
1:07 am	ozzywood:	Is drama ever HC? Probably not. RT @dawnbierschwal: @yeah_write Whats the concept of Gran Torino? #scriptchat
1:07 am	booksbelow:	@yeah_write Congrats on pulling off a great #scriptchat under almost impossible circumstances #twitterfail!
1:07 am	WriterSchilf:	Gran Torino was character driven. Eastwood loved the character RT @yeah_write what about Gran Torino? #scriptchat
1:10 am	yeah_write:	BTW Clint Eastwood is married to the newscaster from my hometown. They met at a charity event. #scriptchat
1:12 am	cinematicshot:	@yeah_write That's HC! When an aging movie star meets a smalltown newscaster at a charity event ... #scriptchat
1:12 am	WriterSchilf:	Drama can be HC, but of all the genres, Drama has most non HC examples. Almost every ROM-COM has to be HC #scriptchat
1:12 am	sdarancette:	@scott_logie GODFATHER is Generations of a Mafia Family is seen as the son of the don becomes a new godfather. Pretty simple. #scriptchat
1:14 am	CDominiqueG:	@yeah_write i think i can actually , characters are blooming in my mind #scriptchat
1:14 am	yeah_write:	@cinematicshot Well, 240,000 people small town. lol #scriptchat
1:18 am	yeah_write:	Okay, the chat is frozen again. Calling it a night. Thanks to those who attended. #scriptchat
1:18 am	GCGeek:	Take 2! RT @GCGeek Would you consider "Groundhog Day" becoming an HC term itself for Déjà vu after its mainstream success? #scriptchat
1:19 am	yeah_write:	@dawnbierschwal Thanks for your support tonight Dawn. I appreciate it! #scriptchat