TOPIC: Script Night – CHINATOWN
Scriptchat examines the classic thriller, CHINATOWN. Who doesn’t love a good “who done it”?
EURO moderator: Mina Zaher, @DreamsGrafter
USA moderator: Jeanne Veillette Bowerman, @jeannevb
EURO chat:
7:00 pm DreamsGrafter: #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK ... Discussing CHINATOWN the screenplay. Please ignore #scriptchat tweets for the next hour to avoid spoilers.
7:01 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter "for some reason"??? How about the extreme violence against a woman that had no place there??? SEE!!! #scriptchat
7:01 pm davidpbaker: RT @DreamsGrafter: #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK ... Discussing CHINATOWN the screenplay. Please ignore #scriptchat tweets for the next hour to avoid spoilers.
7:02 pm dizzydentfilms: In case you're a bad student: http://bit.ly/bvW7bT #chinatownsparknotes #scriptchat
7:02 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write But how else do you make that moment/reveal dramatic? #scriptchat - That's where I get stuck.
7:03 pm DreamsGrafter: #scriptchat RT @filmutopia: @DreamsGrafter She's her sister and her daughter! LOL (sorry) heheheehehheheehhehe
7:03 pm DreamsGrafter: @filmutopia So true. Just saying to @Bang2Write, it's such an important reveal. How else do you make that dramatic? #scriptchat
7:05 pm DreamsGrafter: CHINATOWN script was interesting bc there was a lot more on Evelyn's character which makes her big reveal less of a surprise. #scriptchat
7:05 pm filmutopia: @Bang2write The violence is about historical context. This is a period drama. Why sanitise it to fit modern morals? #scriptchat
7:06 pm momentsoffilm: Waving to #scriptchat folks.. probably won't join in this week as I have never seen Chinatown and would rather watch it without spoilers. :P
7:06 pm DreamsGrafter: Also the emphasis at the end made it more Gittes' fault rather than Evelyn's. #scriptchat
7:06 pm KarenSperling: Jake Gittes: Fine... long as you don't serve the chicken that way. #scriptchat
7:07 pm DreamsGrafter: The screenplay has less pace in parts. #scriptchat
7:07 pm johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter I'm not sure the slapping around is essential to the drama of the reveal but it fits the character and the time. #scriptchat
7:07 pm jeannevb: finishing up a freelance bootcamp... of course, I was the one taking down the transcript for all : ) #scriptchat
7:07 pm KarenSperling: [Lunch is served; it's fish] Noah Cross: I hope you don't mind. I believe they should be served with the head. #scriptchat
7:07 pm Bang2write: @filmutopia it's so *modern* to think hitting women is bad? @Dreamsgrafter U can do *dramatic* any way you want w/o violence #scriptchat
7:08 pm DreamsGrafter: @momentsoffilm Good idea. When you do watch it, please do report back. Would love to hear your thoughts. #scriptchat
7:09 pm booksbelow: Gittes inability to let it go brings about the ultimate tragedy, I see it as a moral tale about obsession. #scriptchat
7:09 pm DreamsGrafter: @johnrackham But how else would he be able to force the truth from her? #scriptchat
7:09 pm DreamsGrafter: @johnrackham It's a secret only her husband and father knew. She wouldn't give it up so easily yet the audience had to know. #scriptchat
7:10 pm lizziside: The end was right there at the beginning "You gotta be rich to get away with murder" - that's what so great structurally #scriptchat
7:11 pm thescriptlab: a think the suspension of disbelief with that generation of moviegoer was much different that now #scriptchat
7:11 pm lizziside: "You gotta be rich to get away with murder" is key to the whole, it comprises premise, theme, resolution, emotional beat #scriptchat
7:12 pm thescriptlab: for it's place in history, it's one of the most iconic third act twists #scriptchat
7:12 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat ha Chinatown, they don't make them like that anymore, fantastic dialogue and characters - Polanski, Towne and Nicholson = class.
7:12 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Just saying to @johnrackham, it's a secret she's carried all her life, she wouldn't give it to the aud so easily. #scriptchat
7:12 pm lizziside: It's like the first 10 pages had it all in and the rest were the logical consequence of that setup #scriptchat
7:12 pm lupiilu: good evening all. :D #scriptchat
7:12 pm marshbuttrue: Re: the slaps: a memorable physical action is, for me, more important than any argument! #scriptchat
7:13 pm DreamsGrafter: @lizziside Absolutely, there was so much in terms of theme and foreshadowing in the script which isn't in film. #scriptchat
7:14 pm dizzydentfilms: Towne re his win: I was stuck with having the lone Oscar at the postawards party and feeling very guilty. #scriptchat
7:14 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat the corruption from public officials is still going on today, and always will. The story has everything power, sex, money, greed
7:14 pm lupiilu: I've only managed to read the script, but really want to see the movie now, brilliant third act twist. #scriptchat
7:14 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter drama doesn't mean "easy", it's all about conflict - but conflict doesn't have to mean violence #scriptchat
7:14 pm DreamsGrafter: @TheScriptLab Hello, welcome to EURO #scriptchat!
7:14 pm lizziside: @DreamsGrafter Yes, in fact I found the script far more engaging than the actual film #scriptchat
7:16 pm KarenSperling: I heard Towne speak at a film festival and he said Polanski wrote Chinatown. Maybe rewrote more accurate #scriptchat
7:16 pm thescriptlab: @DreamsGrafter can't stay away from Chinatown :) #scriptchat
7:17 pm jeannevb: watched extras & Polanski said the original script was 180 pgs. He rewrote ending just days before shooting & Jack rewrote lines #scriptchat
7:17 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write I agree. Just thinking how else it cld be done. For some reason I'm thinking of Marathon Man and teeth pulling now. #scriptchat
7:17 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write 1/2 ever used the term rule of thumb? did you know in Victorian England it was law a man could beat his wife #scriptchat
7:17 pm jeannevb: Polanski also fought for grim ending. Hollywood wanted the father to die. #scriptchat
7:17 pm lizziside: But the "power of money" is violence at its highest RT @Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter ....conflict doesnt have to mean violence #scriptchat
7:18 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write but only with stick that measure no wider than his thumb, violence against women was widely accepted for long time #scriptchat
7:18 pm DreamsGrafter: @TheScriptLab Haha, cool. Glad you're here. ;) Have you read the script? Interesting read. #scriptchat
7:18 pm booksbelow: What did Chinatown symbolize, mentioned often in script, but only becomes location at end really? #scriptchat
7:19 pm lupiilu: @booksbelow it meant that the world of the rich elite was the same as chinatown, it could not be policed #scriptchat
7:19 pm yingandyang: @jeannevb #scriptchat Highly significant that Cross got off. Think about OJ et al, money talks - guilty walk, invariably
7:19 pm thescriptlab: @DreamsGrafter read it in school, again just recently. great example of the difference btwn script and film #scriptchat
7:20 pm DreamsGrafter: @jeannevb I also prefer the ending in the film to the script. I like the fact that Evelyn carves her own fate. #scriptchat
7:20 pm jeannevb: @booksbelow I was wondering same thing. I even went into pdf & searched "chinatown" to see if anything popped #scriptchat
7:20 pm johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter From the point of view of the script, you could just make her trust Gittes more. #scriptchat
7:20 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @thescriptlab: @DreamsGrafter read it in school, again just recently. great example of the difference btwn script and film #scriptchat
7:20 pm jeannevb: @yingandyang I agree. And having Cross leave w his daughter made it even more haunting #scriptchat
7:20 pm booksbelow: @lupiilu Thanks, that sounds right on target. #scriptchat
7:20 pm chained: #scriptchat are there any #books or #DVDs on #screenwriter #roberttowne #writer of #Chinatown ? Http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071315/
7:21 pm jeannevb: @DreamsGrafter I do too. The film ending was more appropriate #scriptchat
7:21 pm dizzydentfilms: It's about a crime that?s right out in front of everybody. Towne made a conspiracy out of something as prevalent as h2o faucets. #scriptchat
7:21 pm DreamsGrafter: @jeannevb @lizziside The ending in the script is quite obvious compared to ending in the film, which I prefer. #scriptchat
7:21 pm lizziside: The incest dramatises that violence #scriptchat
7:21 pm jeannevb: RT @lupiilu: @booksbelow it meant that the world of the rich elite was the same as chinatown, it could not be policed #scriptchat
7:22 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat There are refs to chinatown throughout script, Gittes worked there when he was in police? An impenetrable place, even for police
7:22 pm lizziside: Yes, terribly so. RT @jeannevb: @yingandyang I agree. And having Cross leave w his daughter made it even more haunting #scriptchat
7:22 pm lupiilu: @jeannevb @booksbelow Wow, I made a clever! :D #scriptchat
7:22 pm DreamsGrafter: @jeannevb Everything about the ending was uncomfortable. There's not much out there that gets under my skin. This did. #scriptchat
7:22 pm Bang2write: @lizziside sure, there R violent films around... but I don't think they are necessarily the best films, it's cheap conflict IMHO #scriptchat
7:23 pm jeannevb: @DreamsGrafter I LOVE when a film makes me uncomfortable ;) #scriptchat
7:23 pm jeannevb: yes u did! Bc I cldnt haha RT @lupiilu: @jeannevb @booksbelow Wow, I made a clever! :D #scriptchat
7:24 pm jeannevb: ok, I've been at a freelance bootcamp for the past 5 hours (yesterday too). I need to step away. Will be back... #scriptchat
7:24 pm Bang2write: @lupiilu I don't understand your pt... Unwarranted violence in Chinatown is OK cos life was more shit for women bk then? #scriptchat >
7:24 pm dizzydentfilms: 1 ?lost scene? that rlly sticks out is when Gittes flies 2 Catalina, & pilot gives him backstory on Evelyn & the Cross family. #scriptchat
7:25 pm chained: #scriptchat interesting if we can find #roberttowne explaining how he wrote #chinatown
7:25 pm DreamsGrafter: @jeannevb Have you seen 'The Lives of Others' and read/seen 'The Reader'? #veryuncomfortable #seriousrecommend #scriptchat
7:25 pm lupiilu: it's a brave script, can't see many movies today that will cut up the face of the hero and have the heroine incestuously raped #scriptchat
7:25 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat Did Polanski make Chinatown before or after his arrest? I can't remember - or indeed before the Manson killings?
7:26 pm lizziside: @Bang2write oh, I agree...I even avoid classified films for that reason, but here it turns into filmic lang an universal truth #scriptchat
7:26 pm johnrackham: SF Chronicle interview with Towne http://bit.ly/BSd3o #scriptchat
7:26 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write heroine, shamed for having child of own father, living in times & society who would blame her, she would never tell #scriptchat
7:26 pm thescriptlab: onus of a screenwriter is so much different than a director's. different set of actions to keep audience reading than watching #scriptchat
7:27 pm dizzydentfilms: Loved hw Twne populated it w/ all ths gr8 little throwaway characters that R so memorable, even if they have just 1or 2 lines. #scriptchat
7:27 pm johnrackham: #scriptchat Another interview with Towne http://bit.ly/bewL8I
7:27 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write @lupiilu This is definitely a film about the victimisation of women not just the slapping around face. #scriptchat
7:28 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat If people want to see what a Robert Towne's Chinatown would be like, all you have to do is watch Two Jakes.
7:28 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write reality in script/movie is essential & shock gets people talking which gets more viewers. #scriptchat
7:28 pm PennyAsh: @jeannevb The best films & books make you stop & rethink #scriptchat
7:28 pm dizzydentfilms: @yingandyang Before arrest, after killings. The convinced him to make a commercial movie for a change. #scriptchat
7:29 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write @lupiilu And we have to remember the filmmaker. It contributes to reading of the film. #scriptchat *doesn't make it acceptable*
7:29 pm DreamsGrafter: Thanks John! RT @johnrackham: #scriptchat Another interview with Towne http://bit.ly/bewL8I
7:29 pm Bang2write: @lupiilu Except she did... and Ppl can be surprisingly open about terrible things even in olden days when treated w/ care #scriptchat
7:30 pm lizziside: RT @dizzydentfilms: Loved hw Twne populated it w/ all ths gr8 little throwaway characters that R so memorable, #scriptchat
7:30 pm DreamsGrafter: Thanks! RT @johnrackham: SF Chronicle interview with Towne http://bit.ly/BSd3o #scriptchat
7:30 pm PennyAsh: @yingandyang After the killings I believe dunno about the arrest #scriptchat
7:30 pm Bang2write: @lupiilu on that basis then we should all be watching and applauding the likes of torture porn, surely? #scriptchat
7:30 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat ..... ahem... Raymond Chandler.... film noir.... ahem... just stating the obvious... back to reading my book!
7:31 pm chained: #scriptchat in 1997 #Chinatown shown on #BBC in UK #roberttowne talked for 15mins b4 film on how he wrote it ! I have it on #VHS
7:31 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write psychology was a new science then, most people didn't believe in it and she would have been ostracised for it #scriptchat
7:31 pm yingandyang: @dizzydentfilms #scriptchat thanks! LA, a corrupt and sleazy town, then and now - my kindda town!
7:32 pm PennyAsh: @dizzydentfilms That's what makes it so rich and pulls the reader into the world of the script #scriptchat
7:32 pm DreamsGrafter: @jeannevb Laters babe. Thanks for popping in! xo #scriptchat
7:33 pm lizziside: I keep thinking that structure of this script is amazing, right from the opening scene about "unlawful" sex #scriptchat
7:33 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write this was the way a man of that era would have reacted, he wouldn't have taken her to a psychologist #scriptchat
7:34 pm DreamsGrafter: @yingandyang AMAZING dialogue!! Reading the script was definitely a lesson in how to write great dialogue. #IhaveSOmuchtolearn #scriptchat
7:35 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write 1/2 writing is an art, art is about creating specuation, if people don't talk about it, they won't go see it #scriptchat
7:35 pm DreamsGrafter: @lizziside Re structure, flawless. I love being so caught up in the drama, the turning points don't leap off the page/screen. #scriptchat
7:35 pm johnrackham: @lupiilu #scriptchat. A gentleman of any era would never slap a woman, but Gittes isn't a gentleman.
7:35 pm PennyAsh: @lupiilu I agree, the last thing that would have happened would be bringing it all out. #scriptchat
7:36 pm lizziside: Did u make out easily main plot and plot B? The weave so well that I have some difficulties #scriptchat
7:36 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat It's a very macho film and in the seventies the film industry was a macho industry. Polanski and Nicholson were no saints either
7:36 pm Bang2write: @lupiilu I don't believe ALL men of that era had no empathy or decency #scriptchat
7:36 pm dizzydentfilms: Re structure: We weren?t trying to write a screenplay that was perfectly-structured. We were just trying to make it make sense. #scriptchat
7:36 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write 2/2 art should challenge us, change our view of the subject. #scriptchat
7:36 pm DreamsGrafter: What about Gittes as a victim? #scriptchat All the way through, the guy has such a big heart.
7:37 pm chained: #scriptchat I can record VHS to DVD but my #dvdrecorder makes #mpeg2 recordings but my DVD drive on pc won't detect disk why ?
7:37 pm dcwritesmovies: Hear! Hear! RT @Bang2write: @lupiilu I don't believe ALL men of that era had no empathy or decency #scriptchat
7:37 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write of course most men of any era or moral, empathec, decent people, but there is still violence against women #scriptchat
7:37 pm yingandyang: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat I agree, the words just fall off the page and into Jack's mouth, especially - as if the part was written for him
7:38 pm DreamsGrafter: Apparently when the protagonist doesn't change at the end, the story's a tragedy. Here we can see why he doesn't change. #scriptchat
7:38 pm thescriptlab: @Bang2write it was just more acceptable... or at least not an aberration #scriptchat
7:38 pm Bang2write: @lupiilu that's where U and I differ... writing doesn't *have* to be art - it can be irresponsible, nasty, even downright ugly #scriptchat
7:38 pm johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter Gittes is no worse off at the end of the film. We know that something similar happened to him in Chinatown. #scriptchat
7:39 pm dizzydentfilms: the water scandal was the plot, essentially, and the subplot was the incest. #scriptchat
7:39 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write the point is a woman of that time had to be forced to admit something like that & Gittes has no problem doing it #scriptchat
7:39 pm chained: #scriptchat if I can get roberttowne talk onto pc I'll put on #YouTube to help every1 but need help re pc can't detect mpeg2 disks
7:40 pm DreamsGrafter: @johnrackham He's no worse off but emotionally he's ruined. He's just made the same mistake again. :( #scriptchat
7:40 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat Gittes lives by his own moral code, and in the end it's not about momey for him
7:40 pm johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat So you can't call him a victim. He just has his powerlessness to do good reinforced.
7:40 pm dizzydentfilms: That was the underbelly, & the 2 wr intimately connected, literally & metaphorically: raping the future & raping the land. ahem #scriptchat
7:40 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write hitting Evelyn was tool to, the character was secretive and shamed, only violence was getting her to admit the truth #scriptchat
7:41 pm DreamsGrafter: @yingandyang Totally! How do you write that kinda dialogue? ;) #scriptchat
7:41 pm Bang2write: @lupiilu and that's MY point -- did he *have* to hit her to *make* her admit it? I say no #scriptchat
7:41 pm DreamsGrafter: Great point! RT @johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat So u can't call him a victim. He just has his powerlessness to do good reinforced.
7:41 pm dcwritesmovies: @lupiilu Yes, I can see that. But it was also slightly stylized in the film. Not reflective of the era #scriptchat
7:41 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat Ha, I meant *money*!
7:42 pm johnrackham: True. RT @dizzydentfilms: the water scandal was the plot, essentially, and the subplot was the incest. #scriptchat
7:42 pm johnrackham: RT @dizzydentfilms: That was the underbelly, & the 2 wr intimately connected, literally & metaphorically: raping the future & raping the land. ahem #scriptchat
7:42 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write nobody is saying in ain't ugly, but pretending violence against women doesn't happen won't make it go away #scriptchat
7:42 pm yingandyang: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat by finding your own voice first, and having a keen ear I would say.
7:43 pm lupiilu: @dcwritesmovies I haven't seen the movie so I can't say, but the film is neo noir, I'm assuming it's all stylized #scriptchat
7:44 pm Bang2write: @lupiilu hahahaha... U clearly don't follow me. I am the LAST person in the world to say violence against women doesn't happen #scriptchat
7:45 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write but you would have it ignored in movies? #scriptchat
7:45 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat Polanski explains the slapping scene as dramatic device in his interview with Mark Cousins for Moviedrome. Just saying
7:45 pm lizziside: RT @dizzydentfilms: the water scandal was the plot, essentially, and the subplot was the incest. #scriptchat
7:45 pm DreamsGrafter: The decisions to cut some scenes from the script made sense re pacing of thriller. Need to keep the action moving. #scriptchat
7:45 pm dizzydentfilms: Re Towne & Polanski's writing process: we wrote a one-sentence description of each of the scenes that we were working on. #scriptchat
7:46 pm Bang2write: @lupiilu no, you're assuming that. For me, it's all about context and I think it was unnecessary here #scriptchat
7:46 pm dizzydentfilms: We then pasted those onto the door of the room whr we wr wrkn, & we just moved ths little strips of paper up & dn, #scriptchat
7:47 pm dizzydentfilms: readjusting the structure, to see where there were holes, adding scenes, and that?s how we worked on it. #scriptchat
7:47 pm lupiilu: @filmutopia lol. that's exactly what I'm saying, it's about the art of the piece, to raise tension about 3rd act twist. #scriptchat
7:47 pm DreamsGrafter: @lizziside @dizzydentfilms That's interesting. I was thinking the story is the incest and but the plot is the investigation. #scriptchat
7:47 pm dizzydentfilms: & wht changes wr made in the dialogue wr made as I wrote. Roman, w/ rare exception, dnt have any difficulty w/ the dialogue. #scriptchat
7:47 pm DreamsGrafter: @lizziside @dizzydentfilms I thought the subplot was Gittes relationship with Evelyn. #scriptchat
7:48 pm Bang2write: @filmutopia what filmmakers mean and what individuals get from a work can differ wildly... "The author is dead" and all that #scriptchat
7:48 pm lizziside: @yingandyang Quite. That he's not interested in money we know it in the exchange w Curly at the beginning #scriptchat
7:48 pm kingisafink: Great lesson. RT @DreamsGrafter The decisions to cut scenes from script made sense re: pacing of thriller. keep action moving. #scriptchat
7:48 pm DreamsGrafter: @lizziside @dizzydentfilms The incest happened in the past so isn't part of the plot. It's being investigated. #scriptchat
7:49 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write I think that about a lot of violence in movies, I've to watch the movie but that seems an iconic moment in movie #scriptchat
7:51 pm dizzydentfilms: @DreamsGrafter @lizziside Not in terms of how Towne & Polanski built structure. The other subplots wr organic from thse 2 plots #scriptchat
7:51 pm lizziside: @DreamsGrafter @dizzydentfilm I thought story was about the power of money and incest its violent expression #scriptchat
7:51 pm kingisafink: @DreamsGrafter been lurking...loving the comments today. #scriptchat
7:51 pm DreamsGrafter: @yingandyang Agree (re writing good dialogue). #scriptchat Plus, focusing on what the character's individual voice.
7:52 pm DreamsGrafter: I'd go w/ that. RT @lizziside: I thought story was about the power of money and incest its violent expression #scriptchat
7:52 pm lupiilu: damn, can't believe it's almost 9pm already! :( #scriptchat
7:53 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat There's a good film on tonight in UK, Michael Clayton. Protagonist is seriously flawed, but comes good in end. Recommend it. B1.
7:53 pm DreamsGrafter: Interesting. RT @dizzydentfilms Not in terms of how Towne & Polanski built structure. Other subplots wr organic fr thse 2 plots #scriptchat
7:55 pm dizzydentfilms: Could Chinatown B made 2day? Towne: No. It wld cost 2 much $$, & no major studio wld wnt 2 deal w/ a story of that complexity. #scriptchat
7:55 pm DreamsGrafter: @dizzydentfilms Did they say the incest was a plot? Bc incest doesn't happen in the film i.e. cause & effect sequence of events. #scriptchat
7:55 pm lizziside: How Towne plots that away is interesting and not all that clear cut RT @DreamsGrafter: Id go w/ that. RT @lizziside: #scriptchat
7:56 pm DreamsGrafter: @kingisafink There are so many layers to this film. Love it! #scriptchat
7:56 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @dizzydentfilms: Could Chinatown B made 2day? Towne: No. It wld cost 2 much $$, & no major studio wld wnt 2 deal w/ a story of that complexity. #scriptchat
7:57 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter yes I do like the film as a whole, if not *that* scene #scriptchat
7:57 pm DreamsGrafter: I wish Robert Towne were on Twitter. ;) #scriptchat
7:58 pm dizzydentfilms: @DreamsGrafter Yes, Town described structure process. Plot: water scandal. Subplot: incest. (Although at 1 time incest was Plot) #scriptchat
7:58 pm lizziside: Yes RT @dizzydentfilms: Not in terms of how Towne & Polanski built structure. The other subplots wr organic from thse 2 plots #scriptchat
7:59 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat have enjoyed tonight's theme! Good idea to 'do' a script once in a while.
7:59 pm lupiilu: @dizzydentfilms @DreamsGrafter that would have made a very different film! #scriptchat
7:59 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write I'm w/ you on that one. My enjoyment is suspended when that scene comes along. #scriptchat
8:00 pm dizzydentfilms: When we started wrkn on the re-write of Chinatown, Roman presented me w/ a book, a gift, called ?How 2 Write a Screenplay.? #scriptchat
8:00 pm dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat He inscribed it ?To my dear partner, with fond hope.?
8:00 pm lupiilu: @dizzydentfilms I think the water plot was a better to drive story on and incest better left as subplot #scriptchat
8:00 pm DreamsGrafter: @dizzydentfilms That's really cool to know. Still getting my head round story vs plot. Thanks. #scriptchat
8:00 pm johnrackham: #scriptchat I think it's a great film, but I don't like the message. It's the anti-It's a Wonderful Life
8:01 pm lizziside: At the time there wr different code values RT @DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write My enjoyment is suspended when that scene comes along. #scriptchat
8:01 pm lizziside: RT @DreamsGrafter: @dizzydentfilms Thats really cool to know. Still getting my head round story vs plot. Thanks. #scriptchat
8:02 pm dizzydentfilms: @DreamsGrafter The story is what happens to Gittes, since he's the protag. (falls in love, etc. and where's he's at in the end) #scriptchat
8:04 pm PennyAsh: I liked the tightness of the story, everything moves the story forward with no gratuitous stops for side issues #scriptchat
8:05 pm DreamsGrafter: @lizziside Totally. I don't like that scene but really can't see how else it cld have been played to maintain thriller pace. #scriptchat
8:06 pm lizziside: Re dialogue: every single word is functional to structure, story and character progression. Simple and yet amazing #scriptchat
8:06 pm lupiilu: @lizziside not meant to enjoy the scene, it's to make u uncomfortable, a guy trying that on me would take one to the gonads lol #scriptchat
8:06 pm DreamsGrafter: Wow, we didn't have enough time for this topic! Thanks everyone for joining in ... feel like we explored tip of the iceberg. #scriptchat
8:07 pm matevzluzar: RT @dizzydentfilms: Could Chinatown B made 2day? Towne: No. It wld cost 2 much $$, & no major studio wld wnt 2 deal w/ a story of that complexity. #scriptchat
8:07 pm DreamsGrafter: I have to shoot off. Still in Hampshire. Gotta get back to London. But please keep running w/ this! #scriptchat
8:08 pm lupiilu: @lizziside, oops, sorry, that last meant for @DreamsGrafter lol #scriptchat
8:08 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @dizzydentfilms: @DreamsGrafter The story is what happens to Gittes, since he's the protag. (falls in love, etc. and where's he's at in the end) #scriptchat
8:08 pm yingandyang: #scriptchat yes, a lesson in itself - less is more, i think is the saying! less than 5 seconds ago
8:09 pm thescriptlab: @DreamsGrafter later #scriptchat
8:09 pm lizziside: RT @PennyAsh: I liked the tightness of the story, everything moves the story forward with no gratuitous stops for side issues #scriptchat
8:10 pm jeannevb: If any of you are night owls, u can cont it on US chat ;) #scriptchat
8:10 pm lizziside: Already over?!? #scriptchat
8:10 pm lupiilu: @DreamsGrafter thanks for great scriptchat. My fave yet. @jeannevb #scriptchat
8:10 pm PennyAsh: @jeannevb I'll be there :) #scriptchat
USA chat:
jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK as @DreamsGrafter says... bring on CHINATOWN
jmiewald: Hello, #scriptchat
jeannevb: WOOT @PeteofAllTrades & @2degreesofalie are back from EUROPE!... and engaged ;) #congrats #scriptchat
12:01 am jeannevb: Not sure all the #treefort is here. Been at a freelance writer's bootcamp ALL wknd, so I'm bit fuzzy. Will do my best #scriptchat
12:01 am jeannevb: Not sure u all read AND watched, but script had diff'c. Biggest being ending #scriptchat
12:02 am 2degreesofalie: @jeannevb Thanks! #scriptchat
12:02 am jeannevb: personally, I liked the film ending better. Anyone wanna duel over it? #scriptchat
12:02 am jeannevb: @2degreesofalie ;) #scriptchat
12:02 am jeannevb: I've had a long day, so you peeps better jump in here & save my sorry ars #scriptchat
12:02 am AuthorTiffanie: first time a a scriptchat chat.....what's the topic for tonight? #scriptchat
12:02 am dawnbierschwal: Hello, screenwriters. #scriptchat
12:03 am jeannevb: @AuthorTiffanie 1st Sun of every month, we talk a specific script. Tonight is CHINATOWN (and welcome) #scriptchat
12:03 am dawnbierschwal: Read Chinatown at the pool today... never seen the movie. #scriptchat
12:04 am jeannevb: Where the hell is everyone? I bet they didn't do their homework. I'm going to have to bring out the whips... #scriptchat
12:04 am jeannevb: @dawnbierschwal movie has lots of diff'cs #scriptchat
12:04 am AuthorTiffanie: lol RT @jeannevb: Where the hell is everyone? I bet they didnt do their homework. Im going to have to bring out the whips... #scriptchat
12:04 am jeannevb: hey @booksbelow... WHERE ARE YOU!? #scriptchat
12:04 am KageyNYC: Wow, congrats! RT @jeannevb: WOOT @PeteofAllTrades & @2degreesofalie are back from EUROPE!... and engaged ;) #congrats #scriptchat
12:05 am dawnbierschwal: @jeannevb Will have to put it on the list #scriptchat
12:05 am jeannevb: I suppose I can have a song & dance here and no one would notice #scriptchat
12:05 am booksbelow: Haven't seen the movie for years, is the main difference in ending that father takes possesion of daughter/grand-daughter? #scriptchat
12:05 am AuthorTiffanie: I've never read or seen Chinatown...guess I'll sit back and learn about it from the rest of the crew #scriptchat
12:05 am ruminski: @jeannevb guilty as charged... #scriptchat #thedogateit
12:05 am jmiewald: I didn't read it but I will talk in sweeping generalizations to cover my ignorance. #scriptchat
12:05 am yeah_write: I'm late, but I'm here! #scriptchat
12:05 am 2degreesofalie: Haven't read the script recently. But saw the movie somewhat recently. #scriptchat
12:05 am jeannevb: So, I watch the DVD extras & Polanski said the original script was 180 PAGES! Suddenly I dont feel so bad about mine ha #scriptchat
12:06 am jeannevb: thank God, this place is a morgue tonight #wtf RT @yeah_write: Im late, but Im here! #scriptchat
12:06 am KageyNYC: Thought the last line in film was super corny but overall was good. For such a tight film, was last night kind of a fated thing? #scriptchat
12:06 am jeannevb: Polanski said ending was written just days b4 shooting & Jack was in trailer rewriting dialogue to sound old school movieish #scriptchat
12:06 am yeah_write: @jeannevb I guess no one got their reading done. #scriptchat
12:07 am PennyAsh: I'm here again :) #scriptchat
12:07 am jeannevb: Polanski also said, studios wanted "happy" ending w girl living & dad dying. He fought for her to die. Totally agree w him #scriptchat
12:07 am KageyNYC: Ok, that was supposed to read "was last line kind of a dated thing." Damn, phone spellcheck #scriptchat
12:07 am jeannevb: I agree. I almost barfed ha RT @KageyNYC: Thought the last line in film was super corny but overall was good. #scriptchat
12:08 am sdarancette: @jeannevb I plan to stalk script chat from afar with high power binoculars, but never read CHINATOWN script, just seen the movie #scriptchat
12:08 am dklon: Chinatown is what I wanted Blade Runner to be at its heart. #scriptchat
12:08 am DoubleNW: Hey #scriptchat, Tweeps :) What's the topic??
12:08 am jeannevb: I repsect u confessed... I will not have to whip u : ) @sdarancette RT @ruminski: @jeannevb guilty as charged... #scriptchat #thedogateit
12:09 am jeannevb: CHINATOWN RT @DoubleNW: Hey #scriptchat, Tweeps :) Whats the topic?? #scriptchat
12:09 am PennyAsh: The story is tight, everything moves the story forward, there's no sidetracking into out of place stuff, that's why it works #scriptchat
12:09 am KageyNYC: @jeannevb That's why last line bugged me, ending was hawt, then last line, waa-wah. #scriptchat
12:09 am jeannevb: If u watched film, did u notice Polanski's cameo part (he did the cutting of Jack's nose)? #scriptchat
12:09 am booksbelow: I see the script as mainly about Gittes' obsession with the truth, which eventually causes tragedy, a Pandora's box thing. #scriptchat
12:10 am jeannevb: @KageyNYC it seemed like such a forced way to shove the title at us. #scriptchat
12:11 am jeannevb: @booksbelow he was very obsessed and driven, that's for sure. But, also the trait that made him a great PI #scriptchat
12:11 am PennyAsh: @jeannevb Me too if the dad had died the ending would have been too pat #scriptchat
12:11 am sdarancette: @jeannevb Yup! #scriptchat
12:12 am jeannevb: fyi, next month, Script Night falls on July 4th. In it's honor, we're doing INDEPENDENCE DAY http://bit.ly/dyPlvs #scriptchat
12:12 am DoubleNW: I'm not prepared... Didn't c ChinaTown :/ #scriptchat
12:12 am booksbelow: @jeannevb To me it was a moral tale, that some things are better left alone. #scriptchat
12:12 am jeannevb: @sdarancette @ruminski but i LOVE that you weren't a pussy & still came to the party #threecheers #scriptchat
12:13 am jmiewald: It was very much a Greek tragedy - incest, the good die, etc #scriptchat
12:13 am susynandfolsom: @jeannevb excellent choice, my dear #scriptchat
12:13 am blankethouse: @ruminski @jeannevb @sdarancette Did someone say #scriptchat was on or the NBA final? :-) Yes, I can do both. Go Celtics
12:13 am jeannevb: what creeped me out the most (but thought it was brilliant), was the dad taking the young girl away at the end *shiver* #scriptchat
12:13 am PennyAsh: @booksbelow I agree #scriptchat
12:13 am DoubleNW: Now I did c Independence Day :) #scriptchat
12:13 am KageyNYC: Yay! RT @jeannevb: next month, Script Night falls on July 4th. In it's honor, we're doing INDEPENDENCE DAY http://bit.ly/dyPlvs #scriptchat
12:13 am booksbelow: Really looking forward to Groundhog's Day in August, good example of how to rework a script over and over :-) #scriptchat
12:13 am sdarancette: @jeannevb yeah and I am also waiting for the Lakers/Celtics to start. #scriptchat
12:13 am jeannevb: @susynandfolsom hey there's the Steeler's girl :) HI! #scriptchat
12:14 am jeannevb: HAHA! More honesty ;) RT @sdarancette: @jeannevb yeah and I am also waiting for the Lakers/Celtics to start. #scriptchat
12:14 am PennyAsh: WOOT RT @jeannevb: fyi, next month, Script Night falls on July 4th. we're doing INDEPENDENCE DAY http://bit.ly/dyPlvs #scriptchat
12:14 am 2degreesofalie: I remember studying Chinatown in film school, but can't remember what we actually talked about. #scriptchat
12:14 am RockingtheRobin: RT @jeannevb: CHINATOWN RT @DoubleNW: Hey #scriptchat, Tweeps :) Whats the topic?? #scriptchat
12:14 am jeannevb: we realize we did classics & need to do more current scripts. We'll be switching it up from here on out #scriptchat
12:15 am mfeige: @booksbelow there is some great information about the Groundhog Day Script in this podcast: http://bit.ly/aQa0RG #Scriptchat
12:15 am jeannevb: ha RT @2degreesofalie: I remember studying Chinatown in film school, but cant remember what we actually talked about. #scriptchat
12:15 am dawnbierschwal: @2degreesofalie That's only because you're still in the engagement fog. : ) (congrats) #scriptchat
12:15 am 2degreesofalie: Go Lakers! (I don't really care about sports but hey I'm from LA) #scriptchat
12:15 am writeononline: @jeannevb Just poking in to say "Hi." #scriptchat
12:15 am jeannevb: RT @mfeige: @booksbelow there is some great information about the Groundhog Day Script in this podcast: http://bit.ly/aQa0RG #scriptchat
12:15 am KageyNYC: ;) RT @booksbelow: Really looking forward to Groundhog's Day in August, good example of how to rework a script over and over :-) #scriptchat
12:15 am DoubleNW: I'm with u @blankethouse :) #finals and #scriptchat!!
12:15 am jeannevb: @mfeige thanks, Matt! xo ;) #scriptchat
12:16 am jeannevb: @writeononline Hi Deb! We're talkin' Chinatown tonight... any thoughts? #scriptchat
12:16 am stacy_chambers: @jeannevb I did notice that part. The ending creeped me out too, but it was right for the film. New here to #scriptchat
12:16 am mfeige: @jeannevb it's my favorite podcast, not often about scripts, but a great example of storytelling at it's best #Scriptchat
12:16 am yeah_write: We all know what we thought of the end, but what about the opening scene? Thought? #scriptchat
12:17 am jeannevb: @stacy_chambers Lovely to meet you. We now have 2 virgin chatters tonight to sacrifice to the gods ;) mwhaha #scriptchat
12:17 am sdarancette: @jeannevb :) #scriptchat
12:17 am scott_logie: @jeannevb Just arriving for #scriptchat.
12:17 am DoubleNW: Groundhogs Day is a great movie. Seen it a few times. #scriptchat
12:17 am dawnbierschwal: The problem with reading scripts on Sony Reader is I can't mark it up with notes to refer to later. #scriptchat
12:17 am booksbelow: @mfeige Thanks Matt! Hey, you're in scriptchat! #scriptchat
12:18 am jeannevb: for the newbies, here's our blog w tons of resources www.scriptchat.com @stacy_chambers @AuthorTiffanie #scriptchat
12:18 am mfeige: @booksbelow I am and I love Chinatown, but didn't do the homework #Scriptchat Polanski did really interesting things there. lol.
12:18 am jeannevb: grab ur tequila & jump on in! Talking CHINATOWN RT @scott_logie: @jeannevb Just arriving for #scriptchat.
12:18 am 2degreesofalie: Speaking of podcasts, listen to Never Not Funny sometime. Nothing to do with screenwriting, but funny stuff. Comedians, etc. #scriptchat
12:18 am jeannevb: *giggle* ;) RT @booksbelow: @mfeige Thanks Matt! Hey, youre in scriptchat! #scriptchat
12:18 am writeononline: @jeannevb No thoughts on Chinatown, other that the intensity, but will have many on Groundhog Day #scriptchat
12:18 am PennyAsh: @yeah_write I think it did a good job of introducing the mc #scriptchat
12:19 am KageyNYC: Tons of great stuff. RT @jeannevb: for the newbies, here's our blog w tons of resources www.scriptchat.com #scriptchat
12:19 am jeannevb: yeah! ;) RT @writeononline: @jeannevb No thoughts on Chinatown, other that the intensity, but will have many on Groundhog Day #scriptchat
12:19 am stacy_chambers: @jeannevb If the gods are good-looking, I'm all for it. #scriptchat
12:19 am DoubleNW: What happened n ChinaTown? Shld I c it asap?? #scriptchat
12:19 am yeah_write: Me too. Got his personality right away. RT @PennyAsh: @yeah_write I think it did a good job of introducing the mc #scriptchat
12:19 am RockingtheRobin: RT @jeannevb: grab ur tequila & jump on in! Talking CHINATOWN RT @scott_logie: @jeannevb Just arriving for #scriptchat.
12:19 am jeannevb: I loved the opening scene. Pulled u right into Gittes's world #scriptchat
12:20 am jeannevb: BEST VIRGIN ANSWER YET! HAHA RT @stacy_chambers: @jeannevb If the gods are good-looking, Im all for it. #scriptchat
12:20 am booksbelow: The opening not only fooled Gittes, but fools the audience too, we become involved in deception without realizing it. #scriptchat
12:20 am iamJaymes: @yeah_write whats the #scriptchat topic? *will join in*
12:20 am stacy_chambers: @yeah_write I can't remember the opening scene. Been a long time since I've seen it. Refresh my memory? #scriptchat
12:21 am PennyAsh: @yeah_write Exactly. Makes me want to rewrite my mc's opening in the latest wip #scriptchat
12:21 am yeah_write: @iamJaymes We are discussing the movie Chinatown. #scriptchat
12:21 am jeannevb: every char had a selfish motivation... except Faye's. She was pure... in an unpure world. OK, so she cheated on her husband haha #scriptchat
12:21 am dawnbierschwal: I liked that the opening scene introduced you to Gittes' world but wasn't part of the main plot... allowed you to get acclimated #scriptchat
12:21 am yeah_write: Opening is very tight and gives us a lot with very few words. #scriptchat
12:22 am iamJaymes: @yeah_write oh, I haven't seen that. I just read about opening scenes and was pumped to join =/ never mind #scriptchat
12:22 am scott_logie: Scene omissions between the screenplay and finished film of Chinatown showed how to keep from revealing the mystery too soon. #scriptchat
12:22 am PennyAsh: @jeannevb Yep you know this guy right from the start #scriptchat
12:22 am yeah_write: @iamJaymes Read the script. It's awesome. #scriptchat
12:23 am PennyAsh: @booksbelow The mark of a great opening, totally sets up the rest of the story #scriptchat
12:23 am jeannevb: (fr EURO chat) RT @DreamsGrafter: when prot doesnt change at end, the story's a tragedy. Here we can see why he doesnt change #scriptchat
12:23 am booksbelow: Gittes' obsession with being properly dressed echoes his obsession with properly closing the case. #scriptchat
12:23 am dawnbierschwal: @scott_logie Haven't seen movie... which did you think revealed too soon: script or movie? #scriptchat
12:23 am sdarancette: It's interesting how the father/daughter incest big reveal is so groudbreaking in this film. Now it's pat, soap opera stuff. #scriptchat
12:24 am yeah_write: I love "you need to be rich to kill somebody and get away with it." In a nutshell... #scriptchat
12:24 am jeannevb: did any1 have a prob w Gittes hitting her to get her to admit she was both mother & sister? #scriptchat
12:24 am DoubleNW: As I'm reading #scriptchat comments on ChinaTown, seems like I've seen something like it :/
12:25 am booksbelow: RT @PennyAsh: @booksbelow The mark of a great opening, totally sets up the rest of the story #scriptchat
12:25 am brianspaeth: @booksbelow Do you think that was an intentional choice or one of those things that kinda happened and looked smart afterward? #scriptchat
12:25 am jeannevb: @sdarancette was thinking same thing when I watched it. But for its time, it was good #scriptchat
12:25 am ruminski: gotta bail on #scriptchat, kids - good news this AM, I get to call a writer and tell him the producer liked the work we did on a script edit
12:25 am KageyNYC: @jeannevb The man had his nose sliced open earlier, I'm thinking violence was just how that crew rolled. #scriptchat
12:25 am stacy_chambers: @jeannevb Sure, absolutely. #scriptchat
12:25 am jeannevb: @booksbelow my husband was YELLING at the tv bc Gittes was ruining so many suits HAHA #OCD #scriptchat
12:26 am booksbelow: Part of era/millieu RT @jeannevb: did any1 have a prob w Gittes hitting her to get her to admit she was both mother & sister? #scriptchat
12:26 am yeah_write: RT @booksbelow: Gittes obsession with being properly dressed echoes his obsession with properly closing the case. #scriptchat
12:26 am jeannevb: WOOT! RT @ruminski: I get to call a writer and tell him the producer liked the work we did on a script edit #scriptchat
12:26 am dklon: @jeannevb That discomfort is what helped drive the script. #scriptchat
12:26 am DoubleNW: Nope, don't rem any incest n the film I saw... #scriptchat
12:26 am jeannevb: agree. I liked it. But I like being uncomfortable ;) RT @dklon: @jeannevb That discomfort is what helped drive the script. #scriptchat
12:26 am PennyAsh: @jeannevb I thought it was totally in character for him, get the info any way he has to #scriptchat
12:27 am booksbelow: @brianspaeth Hey Brian! Do you mean about being properly dressed? I think very intentional #scriptchat
12:27 am jeannevb: Towne said he was considering cutting his ear, but thought what better to do to a nosy reporter than slice his nose :) #scriptchat
12:27 am Timsn: Hi sorry I'm late. There is a huge wind storm outside -- trees down, etc. Loved reading Chinatown. #scriptchat
12:27 am guidelucca: Just arriving. What are you guys talking about? #scriptchat
12:27 am stacy_chambers: I actually think the incest is still pretty groundbreaking. It's not exactly dinner-table conversation these days, either. #scriptchat
12:28 am dklon: When you can put chars in situations like that it can open audience minds. #scriptchat
12:28 am scott_logie: @dawnbierschwal Mention of Evelyn's spat with dad and a child in Mexico blew the daughter reveal. Didn't see it on screen. #scriptchat
12:28 am jeannevb: CHINATOWN RT @guidelucca: Just arriving. What are you guys talking about? #scriptchat
12:28 am brianspaeth: @booksbelow Yeah the dressing properly. Is it noted specifically in the script - I haven't read it for years. #scriptchat
12:28 am stacy_chambers: The subject, that is. #scriptchat
12:28 am jeannevb: I think I love you ;) RT @dklon: When you can put chars in situations like that it can open audience minds. #scriptchat
12:29 am jeannevb: @brianspaeth *waves* nice to see you here :) #scriptchat
12:29 am NCP4EVA: http://bit.ly/aAXFYV ----- This is dedicated to @jeannevb as she #scriptchat s
12:29 am PennyAsh: @KageyNYC I agree, violence was the norm for these people #scriptchat
12:29 am KageyNYC: I'll second that *wave wave* RT @jeannevb: @brianspaeth *waves* nice to see you here :) #scriptchat
12:29 am PeteofAllTrades: RT I actually think the incest is still pretty groundbreaking. @stacy_chambers its great to get us all uncomfortable #scriptchat
12:29 am dklon: If it's uncomfortable, keep pushing through it. There might be some truth in there. Truth is uncomfortable. #scriptchat
12:29 am susynandfolsom: @jeannevb hi sweetie - haven't been able to do #scriptchat for a while been reading tons o scripts. Hope everyone is well. Lakers? Celtics?
12:29 am yeah_write: If you are worried about what the audience will think (the slapping) then put it in! It's all about evoking emotion. #scriptchat
12:30 am jeannevb: Towne did a great job w creating unique, individual voices too. He wrote script w Jack in mind. Perfect for him. #scriptchat
12:30 am dklon: @jeannevb There's a bottle of Jose Cuervo in my cupboard. :) #scriptchat
12:30 am booksbelow: @brianspaeth Yeah, it's mentioned several times. Just read the script yesterday, haven't seen the movie in years though! #scriptchat
12:30 am TravisLegge: Hey #scriptchat its my birthday and I start shooting this week 7 hours $1840 to go! http://www.indiegogo.com/Raymond-Did-It We can do it!
12:30 am jeannevb: WOOT! RT @ncp4eva: http://bit.ly/aAXFYV ----- This is dedicated to @jeannevb as she #scriptchat s
12:30 am TravisLegge: Sorry i'm missing out on #scriptchat goodness getting ready to make Raymond Did It!
12:30 am DoubleNW: @ruminski Congrats... May need ur services later on!! #scriptchat
12:31 am booksbelow: RT @jeannevb: Towne did a great job w creating unique, individual voices too. He wrote script w Jack in mind. Perfect for him. #scriptchat
12:31 am jeannevb: @dklon I've been at a writing bootcamp all weekend... I NEED IT! #scriptchat
12:31 am brianspaeth: @jeannevb I'm the worst at being at #scriptchat - hi! @KageyNYC :)
12:31 am jeannevb: @susynandfolsom have u read CHINATOWN... our topic tonight ;) #scriptchat
12:31 am Ms_Victoria_D: Do people spec cartoons, ie. Family Guy? #scriptchat
12:31 am yeah_write: @booksbelow Did reading the script make you want to see the movie again? #scriptchat
12:32 am jeannevb: u do suck at attendance haha RT @brianspaeth: @jeannevb Im the worst at being at #scriptchat - hi! @KageyNYC :) #scriptchat
12:32 am booksbelow: Someone in Euro chat said they cut scene in movie where he is told history in plane ride, how did they cover that instead? #scriptchat
12:32 am dklon: @jeannevb Had a tough DI there? #scriptchat
12:32 am brianspaeth: @jeannevb Hey c'mon every five weeks I drop in for five minutes. : ( #scriptchat
12:33 am 2degreesofalie: @Ms_Victoria_D Yes, definitely. #scriptchat
12:33 am booksbelow: Very much so! RT @yeah_write: @booksbelow Did reading the script make you want to see the movie again? #scriptchat
12:33 am susynandfolsom: @jeannevb no but know film well #scriptchat
12:33 am yeah_write: Reading CHINATOWN made me want to do a rewrite of my P.I. novel. #scriptchat
12:33 am jeannevb: @susynandfolsom that's good enough ;) Jump in ! #scriptchat
12:33 am ruminski: #scriptchat question: why do you think CHINATOWN was able to put Chandleresque themes onscreen more succesfully than Chandler adaptations?
12:34 am stacy_chambers: @PeteofAllTrades I don't think it should be put in just 2 make us uncomfortable. It said something more about our culture IMHO #scriptchat
12:34 am RockingtheRobin: RT @yeah_write: @booksbelow Did reading the script make you want to see the movie again? #scriptchat / It always makes me want to see again.
12:35 am jeannevb: @booksbelow the cut the ride completely & just took him to the father's home #scriptchat
12:35 am scott_logie: @booksbelow That's the cut I liked. Told too much. #scriptchat
12:35 am ruminski: Thanks! @DoubleNW @jeannevb #scriptchat
12:35 am Timsn: I did not like the movie but really liked the script. Now I want to see the movie again #scriptchat
12:35 am KageyNYC: I think the King of the Random Comment *should* suck at attendance. ;) RT @jeannevb: u do suck at attendance haha @brianspaeth #scriptchat
12:35 am jeannevb: working wknd for me. Tired. *refills glass* RT @dklon: @jeannevb Had a tough DI there? #scriptchat
12:35 am RockingtheRobin: You are seeing a totally different thing, perceiving differently after having read the script. Completely different experience. #scriptchat
12:36 am jeannevb: where is @zacsanford? #scriptchat
12:36 am PeteofAllTrades: @stacy_chambers cpompeltely agree. and i think it does that better than any other film I can think of #scriptchat
12:36 am dklon: @jeannevb What did you take away from Chinatown that affected your own work? #scriptchat
12:36 am yeah_write: @Timsn You will see the movie with a whole new perspective. And may even like it now. lol #scriptchat
12:36 am KageyNYC: Why do you think Chinatown is considered the "perfect" script? #scriptchat
12:37 am dizzydentfilms: cngrts 2 @cinematicshot 4 finishing his 1st marathon. He's bedridden lk james caan in misery & sends his regards. #scriptchat
12:37 am jeannevb: @dklon affirmation that pushing the char's to their limit is necessary. I love to get them to the edge & see what they do #scriptchat
12:38 am jeannevb: @dklon what did you take away? #scriptchat
12:38 am stacy_chambers: @ruminski I think it caught the whole corruption vibe better than Chandler adaptations. #scriptchat
12:38 am Timsn: Every scene sets us up for the next one RT @KageyNYC: Why do you think Chinatown is considered the "perfect" script? #scriptchat
12:38 am scott_logie: No such thing as actors' business in "Chinatown". Every little action was on the page and served a character or plot reveal. #scriptchat
12:38 am DoubleNW: Wow... I feel like I didn't study 4 a very important test. Gotta be prepared 4 #scriptchat!
12:38 am booksbelow: @scott_logie It did reveal the daughter thing, not the incest though. #scriptchat
12:39 am dklon: @jeannevb Exactly. We can push them each to their own limits. I like keeping them off-balance. #scriptchat
12:39 am jeannevb: I think Casablanca is ;) RT @KageyNYC: Why do you think Chinatown is considered the "perfect" script? #scriptchat
12:39 am jeannevb: @KageyNYC yea, we can give @brianspaeth a Bobby Brady hall monitor pass ;) #scriptchat
12:39 am dklon: @jeannevb I found that you can show so much with very little that tells volumes about a char. #scriptchat
12:39 am stacy_chambers: @KageyNYC No scenes are wasted! Everything scene drives the next scene or the plot. #scriptchat
12:40 am stacy_chambers: Man, for someone who hasn't seen CHINATOWN in years, I sure have a lot to say. #scriptchat
12:40 am jeannevb: @dklon the 1 I'm writing now has every1 at their limits. I'm in heaven :) #scriptchat
12:40 am yeah_write: lol RT @stacy_chambers: Man, for someone who hasnt seen CHINATOWN in years, I sure have a lot to say. #scriptchat
12:40 am dklon: @jeannevb Which also gives you room for more. Can increase story density. #scriptchat
12:41 am jeannevb: @the_fake_rwhyde I aim to please :) Have u ever been to a #scriptchat? One is on now. Talking CHINATOWN.
12:41 am jeannevb: @stacy_chambers you have an excellent memory... for a virgin ;) #scriptchat
12:41 am Chuklz: #scriptchat Point of order. If any script were the perfect script- we'd all be out of business.
12:41 am grking: @KageyNYC def research how many changes were made to it by Polanski -- re: Chinatown script #scriptchat
12:42 am jeannevb: @dklon hey, since ur a horror writer, any request for script for when we do that genre? #scriptchat
12:42 am DoubleNW: @dklon Agree with that. A look can make u more interested than anything at times. #scriptchat
12:42 am dklon: @jeannevb They only get a break in the third act. #scriptchat
12:42 am Timsn: Someone from #scriptchat will write the perfect script :-)
12:42 am booksbelow: I think in the Chandler movies, the MC became something of a caricature of himself. #scriptchat
12:43 am stacy_chambers: RT lol!! jeannevb @stacy_chambers you have an excellent memory... for a virgin ;) #scriptchat
12:43 am writeononline: Hi @grking! #scriptchat
12:43 am dklon: @jeannevb Classic or contemporary? #scriptchat
12:43 am scott_logie: @booksbelow No that's true. But I feel like it left hints at it. Of course maybe that easy to say, knowing the outcome. #scriptchat
12:43 am booksbelow: Room for more than 1! RT @Chuklz: #scriptchat Point of order. If any script were the perfect script- wed all be out of business. #scriptchat
12:44 am KageyNYC: Yes, we've been talking about that too! RT @grking: @KageyNYC research how many changes were made by Polanski #scriptchat
12:44 am 2degreesofalie: Here here! RT @Timsn Someone from #scriptchat will write the perfect script :-)
12:44 am susynandfolsom: i forgot Burt Young was in this film #scriptchat
12:44 am grking: hey you! RT @WriteOnOnline: Hi @grking! #scriptchat
12:45 am grking: @KageyNYC I'm sure you guys are all over it -- just like the Casablanca script and all its changes/writers #scriptchat
12:45 am Timsn: All kidding aside, "Some LIke It Hot" is probably the best script I've read. #scriptchat
12:45 am dizzydentfilms: It's regarded by most film writing scholars as the paradigm 4 the prfct screenplay, in terms of its structure. Not prfct script. #scriptchat
12:45 am booksbelow: @scott_logie In your standard mystery story, you're supposed to leave clues for reader to solve case just before the MC does. #scriptchat
12:46 am DoubleNW: That's right @timsn :) #scriptchat
12:46 am booksbelow: @scott_logie But movies are different, I agree good thing cutting that scene. #scriptchat
12:46 am jeannevb: @the_fake_rwhyde check out our blog for deets: www.scriptchat.com #scriptchat
12:46 am stacy_chambers: @jeannevb Don't be too rough with me. I'm delicate. #scriptchat
12:46 am jeannevb: @the_fake_rwhyde and follow @scriptchat too ;) #scriptchat
12:46 am KageyNYC: @grking Truth though, we are faking it a lot tonight. ;) #scriptchat
12:47 am jeannevb: grrrr my tweetchat room is not refreshing #scriptchat
12:47 am jeannevb: either RT @dklon: @jeannevb Classic or contemporary? #scriptchat
12:47 am yeah_write: Gotta cut out early. I have orders to get ready to ship tomorrow. And maybe watch CHINATOWN again. #scriptchat
12:48 am grking: you gals never fake it -- do you?? RT @KageyNYC: @grking Truth though, we are faking it a lot tonight. ;) #scriptchat
12:48 am scott_logie: Salt water bad for glass is a great murder misdirect. Especially seeing Mulwray by the ocean. #Chinatown #scriptchat
12:49 am 2degreesofalie: Pete and I have to run. Till next time. Wishing everyone a fun week. #scriptchat
12:49 am jeannevb: ok #scriptchat peeps, I cant access chat in either twitter, tweetdeck, tweetchat OR wthashtag #GRRRRRRRR Have no clue what's happening
12:49 am DoubleNW: @yeah_write Have a good evening... I'm def going 2 watch ChinaTown sometime n the near future #scriptchat
12:49 am booksbelow: RT @scott_logie: Salt water bad for glass is a great murder misdirect. Especially seeing Mulwray by the ocean. #Chinatown #scriptchat
12:49 am KageyNYC: We only fake knowledge :-P RT @grking: you gals never fake it -- do you?? RT @KageyNYC @grking we are faking it a lot tonight ;) #scriptchat
12:49 am ruminski: Great script, but the "greatest" praise for CHINATOWN is largely cultural/ generational. Chalk it up to "New Hollywood" atavism #scriptchat
12:50 am PeteofAllTrades: Take it easy, scriptpeeps #scriptchat
12:50 am zacsanford: Lost track of time until I received a call "If you can be here in 15 minutes I have a Movie Awards Tix for you". Can't hapen. #scriptchat
12:50 am Timsn: I need to go too. Wind storm outsied - I'm afraid of losing electric. #scriptchat
12:50 am jeannevb: Is any1 else having a #scriptchat issue? Plz @ me
12:50 am booksbelow: I still say we need to study some non-great scripts! Things we feel more free to rip apart! :-) #scriptchat
12:50 am TenaciousTanaka: RT @scott_logie: Salt water bad for glass is a great murder misdirect. Especially seeing Mulwray by the ocean. #Chinatown #scriptchat
12:51 am zacsanford: Everything is fine on my end. RT @jeannevb: Is any1 else having a #scriptchat issue? Plz @ me #scriptchat
12:51 am TenaciousTanaka: @booksbelow Or what about a great script not executed properly? #scriptchat
12:51 am KageyNYC: @jeannevb My TweetDeck wasn't getting mentions so was getting them through site but it seems to be working again. #scriptchat
12:52 am dklon: @jeannevb Had to think for moment, but Alien would be good to cover since @zacsanford saw it recently (1st time I think) #scriptchat
12:52 am ttimechitchat: @jeannevb nope. I see you on twitter, tweetchat and web http://seesmic.com/app/ #scriptchat
12:52 am dklon: @jeannevb Wasn't getting anything for a few minutes. #scriptchat
12:52 am jeannevb: @zacsanford @KageyNYC well, i can apparently post but I cant see the chat convo at all, so u 2 take over, ok? #scriptchat
12:52 am stacy_chambers: @jeannevb Mine seems to be working fine. #scriptchat
12:53 am ruminski: Baby Boomer oppression! Much like The Beatles will always be unsurpassed according to many, CHINATOWN is on a pedestal. #scriptchat
12:53 am jeannevb: @KageyNYC @zacsanford no idea if i'll be able to get the #scriptchat transcript. UGH.
12:53 am booksbelow: Sounds good! RT @TenaciousTanaka: @booksbelow Or what about a great script not executed properly? #scriptchat
12:54 am LifesizeLD: @jeannevb You're showing up fine here. #scriptchat
12:54 am zacsanford: @jeannevb Have you tried your backup account? #scriptchat
12:54 am KageyNYC: OK! Do 2 shots & take off your tops #scriptchat! Woot! RT @jeannevb @zacsanford @KageyNYC I cant see the chat convo at all, so u 2 take over
12:54 am TenaciousTanaka: @booksbelow Thanks for the RT. Hello btw, my first time here. Pleasure to meet you. #scriptchat
12:54 am zacsanford: So............ what did I miss? :) #scriptchat
12:55 am jeannevb: ok, let's try the web... #scriptchat
12:55 am dklon: @zacsanford Talking about Chinatown and what we took away from it in our own work. #scriptchat
12:55 am stacy_chambers: RT @booksbelow I still say we need to study some non-great scripts! Things we feel more free to rip apart! :-) #scriptchat
12:55 am scripteach: RT @KageyNYC: Why do you think Chinatown is considered "perfect" script? #scriptchat Strong protag, cause & effect plot, complex r/ships...
12:55 am zacsanford: @jeannevb Just for you: http://www.hippotoaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ray-charles-i-cant-see-shit.jpg #scriptchat
12:56 am jeannevb: yep diff't browser too. Cant get in except to keep refreshing web page RT @zacsanford: @jeannevb Have u tried backup account? #scriptchat
12:56 am KageyNYC: So truth, did you all really LIKE the movie and script or did you feel you were SUPPOSED to like it? #scriptchat
12:56 am jeannevb: HAHAHA! RT @zacsanford: @jeannevb Just for you: http://bit.ly/dvHWbw #scriptchat
12:56 am scripteach: RT @KageyNYC: Why do you think Chinatown considered "perfect" script? #scriptchat ...most of all, devastating tragic flaw that leads to end.
12:57 am KageyNYC: I liked it but it's no NETWORK! :-P #scriptchat
12:57 am TenaciousTanaka: @KageyNYC When I viewed it for the first time as a kid I loved it not knowing it was considered great. #scriptchat
12:57 am dizzydentfilms: @stacy_chambers Time is precious. y wld U spend 2 hrs of yr time reading something crappy. Better 2 learn from the greats. No? #scriptchat
12:57 am ttimechitchat: If that doesn't work try http://seesmic.com/app/. U can log in w/Twitter (no installation) RT @jeannevb: ok, lets try the web... #scriptchat
12:57 am booksbelow: @TenaciousTanaka Hope you're back here for many more! #scriptchat
12:57 am KageyNYC: @scripteach Yes, I was all over that ending (except the last line). #scriptchat
12:57 am jeannevb: fyi, doing #scriptchat fr Twitter web version SUCKS! #refreshhell
12:58 am kingisafink: That looks like an invitation for us to be outrageous... RT @jeannevb no idea if i'll be able to get the #scriptchat transcript. UGH.
12:58 am susynandfolsom: @KageyNYC OMG that's a great one! #scriptchat
12:58 am stacy_chambers: @dizzydentfilms Often the bad scripts have more to teach than the good. But I agree time is precious. #scriptchat
12:58 am booksbelow: @KageyNYC I'm beginning to think you didn't like the last line! :-( #scriptchat
12:58 am zacsanford: Well we are basically at the hour mark... RT @kingisafink: That looks like an invitation for us to be outrageous... #scriptchat
12:59 am dizzydentfilms: BTW, Towne said the scenes that didn't make it into film were filmed. Just didn't make the cut. #scriptchat
12:59 am writeononline: THX @jeannevb for a fun #scriptchat and 4 being one of my "celeb" judges for this month's Query Contest http://ow.ly/1UOO1 #screenwriting
12:59 am jeannevb: mwhahaha RT @kingisafink: That looks like an invitation for us to be outrageous... RT @jeannevb ...#scriptchat transcript. UGH.
12:59 am dklon: An hour already? Shucks! #scriptchat
12:59 am stacy_chambers: @KageyNYC NETWORK was so prescient, wasn't it? #scriptchat
12:59 am ruminski: @brionykidd Not denying that it's a brilliant script, just hear alarm bells when a self-serving consensus creates sacred cows #scriptchat
1:00 am scripteach: RT @KageyNYC: Yes, I was all over that ending (except the last line). C'mon, that's a great final line! "Forget it ... it's #scriptchat."
1:00 am dizzydentfilms: @stacy_chambers What i've learned from reading bad scripts is empathy for the reader. Don't do unto others.... #scriptchat
1:00 am KageyNYC: Hehe, have I made that clear yet? :) RT @booksbelow: @KageyNYC I'm beginning to think you didn't like the last line! :-( #scriptchat
1:00 am TenaciousTanaka: #Chinatown is the greatest movie anyone involved with in the production of has ever done. That is all. #scriptchat
1:01 am ruminski: @bironykidd Though not gumshoe/detective stories, as mysteries I'd put THE USUAL SUSPECTS and MEMENTO up vs CHINATOWN any day #scriptchat
1:01 am scripteach: RT @ruminski: @brionykidd just hear alarms when a "self-serving consensus creates sacred cows" #scriptchat Who's self is being served?
1:01 am KageyNYC: Unbelievably so. If anyone hasn't seen, it's great, imho. RT @stacy_chambers: @KageyNYC NETWORK was so prescient, wasn't it? #scriptchat
1:01 am UncompletedWork: Sorry missing out on #scriptchat tonight. Will catch you guys later.
1:02 am ttimechitchat: It's always fun to lurk and learn on Sunday Nights with Scriptchat Peeps...Have a great week everyone! #scriptchat
1:02 am KageyNYC: I know you're the @scripteach but no, no it wasn't. ;-P #scriptchat
1:02 am scripteach: RT @KageyNYC: did you all really LIKE the movie and script or did you feel you were SUPPOSED to like it? #scriptchat I admit it, I love it!
1:02 am brionykidd: @ruminski Yeah, know what you mean. Like people who think CITIZEN KANE greatest of all time, a lot of them prob never watched it.#scriptchat
1:02 am jeannevb: fyi, NETWORK will be a script we do for Script Night, so keep your pants on #scriptchat ;)
1:03 am stacy_chambers: @dizzydentfilms No one wants to write a bad script. But I often find I learn more from them - & not 2 hrs in, either. #scriptchat
1:03 am ruminski: @scripteach The "New Hollywood" generation of the 60s/70s who want to continue to propagate their cultural dominance. #scriptchat
1:03 am PennyAsh: Yep RT @TenaciousTanaka: #Chinatown is the greatest movie anyone involved with in the production of has ever done. That is all. #scriptchat
1:03 am Chuklz: @booksbelow Then it wouldnt be perfect by definition #scriptchat
1:03 am jeannevb: @KageyNYC @booksbelow the last line is so important. I hate having a bad taste in my mouth #nojokesplease #scriptchat
1:03 am dklon: @jeannevb Are you mad as hell and aren't going to take it anymore? #scriptchat
1:04 am KageyNYC: Damn, I just got them off. RT @jeannevb: fyi, NETWORK will be a script we do for Script Night, so keep your pants on #scriptchat ;)
1:04 am jeannevb: RT @WriteOnOnline: THX @jeannevb for a fun #scriptchat & 4 being 1 of "celeb" judges for this month's Query Contest http://ow.ly/1UOO1
1:04 am DoubleNW: @jeannevb What's the topic next week so I'll b prepared?? #scriptchat
1:04 am dizzydentfilms: @stacy_chambers Whatever works, right? #scriptchat
1:04 am scripteach: RT @ruminski: "New Hollywood" 60s/70s generation who want to propagate cultural dominance. #scriptchat Really!? So what do you say is best?
1:04 am jeannevb: I do not like tweeting blind at #scriptchat ;) RT @dklon: @jeannevb Are you mad as hell and aren't going to take it anymore? #scriptchat
1:05 am PennyAsh: Haven't seen the movie but the script pulled me is as well as a novel would have. Loved the script #scriptchat
1:05 am jeannevb: trying to get Gr Am Pitchfest peeps as guests ;) RT @DoubleNW: @jeannevb What's the topic next week so I'll b prepared?? #scriptchat
1:06 am booksbelow: @PennyAsh Script had me feeling it was like a novel also, couldn't put it down (well, close the window on my screen!) #scriptchat
1:06 am stacy_chambers: @dizzydentfilms Yeah, absolutely. Really good stuff sometimes puts me in awe - bad stuff fires up those critical thinking skillz.#scriptchat
1:06 am ruminski: @scripteach I'm not talking about what is best, but about how ingrained "conventional wisdom" colours our conception of "best" #scriptchat
1:07 am slushpilehero: @jeannevb what's your topic tonight? #scriptchat
1:07 am scripteach: RT @jeannevb: @KageyNYC @booksbelow last line is so important. #scriptchat C'TOWN's last line echoes back to tragic flaw: couldn't let go.
1:07 am jeannevb: ok, our hour is up, so you can tweet about whatever the hell you want at this point ;) #scriptchat
1:07 am PennyAsh: @booksbelow LOL yeah, do 99% of my reading. I was impressed with the dialog & descriptions #scriptchat
1:08 am jeannevb: Transcript could take a while. I'll reboot and see if I can get access. Apologies in advance & PRAYING I can #scriptchat
1:08 am brionykidd: @ruminski I prefer CHINATOWN, for that creepy/nostalgic tone (which may be related to it being made years ago...who knows?) #scriptchat
1:09 am jeannevb: @scripteach ahhh.. so there was a reason for that "bad" line haha @KageyNYC @booksbelow #scriptchat
1:09 am DoubleNW: @ruminski I love movies that r set n the 60's/70's... Great generations - love the clothes, music as well/ I'm young woman :) #scriptchat
1:09 am jeannevb: it was CHINATOWN. Yes, u missed it ;( RT @slushpilehero: @jeannevb what's your topic tonight? #scriptchat
1:09 am scripteach: RT @ruminski: ingrained "conventional wisdom" colours conception of "best" #scriptchat Or maybe it's just really good & we should examine it
1:10 am KageyNYC: @scripteach @jeannevb Was it just delivered poorly so it sounded cheesy? B/c I appreciate what ur saying re: it tying into char #scriptchat
1:10 am dizzydentfilms: @ruminski Even if you don't like the film, it's hard to ignore that the script is a great example of the mastery of craft. #scriptchat
1:10 am scripteach: RT @jeannevb: ahhh.. so there was a reason for that "bad" line haha @KageyNYC @booksbelow #scriptchat Sigh. Wait 'til I get your rewrite!
1:11 am stacy_chambers: dizzydentfilms @ruminski . . . it's hard to ignore that the script is a great example of the mastery of craft. #scriptchat Right on.
1:11 am ruminski: @scripteach see my earlier comparison re The Beatles. There's a mindset that thinks culture ended in the 70s which is BS #scriptchat
1:11 am booksbelow: @jeannevb Sent you email with my version of transcript in case you can't #scriptchat
1:12 am scripteach: RT @KageyNYC: @jeannevb Was it delivered poorly so it sounded cheesy? #scriptchat That's possible. Also, putting title in last line is hard.
1:12 am scripteach: RT @ruminski: There's a mindset that thinks culture ended in the 70s which is BS #scriptchat True, but does that mean we trash it?
1:13 am zacsanford: I'm going to have to check out the transcript as I was busy writing tonight. Have a good night y'all. #scriptchat
1:13 am zacsanford: No matter what the topic is next week, it shall be a PARRRRTTTTYYYY! Well at least after the first hour topic. #scriptchat
1:13 am jeannevb: I won't be doing that hahaha RT @scripteach:...Also, putting title in last line is hard. #scriptchat @KageyNYC
1:14 am ruminski: @scripteach @dizzydentfilms @stacy_chambers @DoubleNW never said that CHINATOWN wasn't good, or even great (more) #scriptchat
1:14 am scripteach: RT @jeannevb: I won't be doing that hahaha RT @scripteach:...Also, putting title in last line is hard. #scriptchat @KageyNYC That's good!
1:15 am ruminski: (cont) Just that it has been elevated to "greatest ever" status by people with an interest in preserving the New H'wood legacy #scriptchat
1:15 am jeannevb: Thank you everyone for doing your homework... or at least bluffing your way through! :) #scriptchat
1:16 am stacy_chambers: @ruminski never said that CHINATOWN wasn't good, or even great (more) #scriptchat But that kind of negates what you're saying, IMHO.
1:17 am jeannevb: I'm rebooting & hoping transcript works. BUT @booksbelow send me a back up version just in case ;) #scriptchat
1:17 am scripteach: RT @ruminski: Baby Boomer oppression! #scriptchat "Oppression!?" Name the last film of that generation that really had any impact.
1:17 am KageyNYC: Forget it, @jeannevb. It's #scriptchat. (and with that, I'm audi!)
1:19 am ozzywood: @jeannevb Hi Jeanne, sorry for bailing out. I wasn't in the right mindset with the whole MM thing. Back next week! #scriptchat
1:19 am zacsanford: RT @KageyNYC: Forget it, @jeannevb. It's #scriptchat. (and with that, I'm audi!)
1:19 am DoubleNW: @jeannevb Cool, I'm actually thinking about pitching 1 of my romantic drama's so it'll b good 2 get some nfo. #scriptchat
1:19 am RickRapier: RT @GerryBruno: #script I'm looking for is something quirky w/heart. Stranger than Fiction, Big Fish on an #indiefilm budget. #scriptchat
1:20 am sdarancette: On a note on the films of that generation, I recommend reading "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls." Great book! #scriptchat
1:20 am RickRapier: Hiya, #scriptchat ters. Sorry I missed it. They're installing fiber optics & Net access has been spotty at best this weekend! Aargh.
1:21 am dizzydentfilms: @sdarancette Yeah, much better than A Decade Under the Influence series. #scriptchat
1:22 am ruminski: @scripteach The films of the New H'wood era have become a measuring stick for everything after, a constant, oppressive reference #scriptchat
1:24 am jeannevb: WOOHOO... chat is over & I'm back in the room haha #scriptchat
1:24 am DoubleNW: Lata #scriptchat, Tweeps!!
1:24 am stacy_chambers: @ruminski ... measuring stick for everything after, a constant, oppressive reference. #scriptchat How so?
1:25 am scripteach: RT @KageyNYC: Forget it, @jeannevb. It's #scriptchat. (and with that, I'm audi!) Hey, don't be ripping me off! See you in court, uh, class.
1:25 am dizzydentfilms: @sdarancette It's a documentary that IFC put out. Left me wanting more, but it's a good companion to the book. Check it out. #scriptchat
1:26 am stacy_chambers: @jeannevb I think I def. lost my virginity with @ruminsky. #scriptchat
1:27 am jeannevb: @ozzywood understandable ;) See you next week! xo #scriptchat
1:28 am jeannevb: hahaha! RT @stacy_chambers: @jeannevb I think I def. lost my virginity with @ruminski. #scriptchat
1:29 am ruminski: @stacy_chambers the romanticizing of New H'wood propagates a mindset that film's best days are over & done with #scriptchat
1:30 am PennyAsh: @jeannevb I did mine :) Can't wait for the next one. And back to the cowboy smut series with spurs, chaps, vamps, & werewolves #scriptchat
1:30 am dizzydentfilms: @stacy_chambers I think he's trying 2 say that screenwriting 2day cnt measure up & we shld defend & accept Hollywood mediocrity. #scriptchat
1:30 am ruminski: @stacy_chambers Does that mean I have to buy you breakfast? #scriptchat
1:31 am scripteach: RT @ruminski: films of New H'wood have become...constant oppressive reference #scriptchat Yeah, like MATRIX, MEMENTO, UP, AMERICAN BEAUTY...
1:32 am stacy_chambers: @ruminski Hmmm, I dont' think anyone here was saying that, but I can see what you're saying. #scriptchat
1:32 am jeannevb: most definitely ;) RT @ruminski: @stacy_chambers Does that mean I have to buy you breakfast? #scriptchat
1:32 am stacy_chambers: @ruminski I think Charlie Kauffman's work is just as good as CHINATOWN, for example. And it's pretty original. #scriptchat
1:33 am RickRapier: @eledrew I don't refer to it as overwritten; I assert modern readers would were it not an acknowledged gem. #scriptchat
1:33 am jeannevb: fyi, #FF the great #scriptchat deflowered virgin @stacy_chambers She popped her chat cherry tonight & held her own in style ;) xo
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