| 12:11 am | yeah_write: | Looks like we might be back. #scriptchat |
| 12:11 am | RickRapier: | My what? Ahem. RT @dizzydentfilms: @RickRapier Your tweet is showing, but mine aren't. #scriptchat |
| 12:11 am | LisaFromNYC: | I use tweetchat.com #scriptchat |
| 12:11 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat I think it's working now. Non? |
| 12:11 am | diannesalerni: | TweetChat has updated. Are we back? #scriptchat |
| 12:11 am | dawnbierschwal: | Testing 1, 2, 3... #scriptchat |
| 12:11 am | Timsn: | We're all missing it:( RT @jeannevb: *waving* at #scriptchat. hate missing it! #gapf |
| 12:12 am | booksbelow: | @yeah_write could we hold it on the #scriptchat FB page with a string of comments? I checked the Ning site, but won't come up. |
| 12:12 am | Timsn: | I'm getting tweetchat now #scriptchat |
| 12:12 am | yeah_write: | Are we back? #scriptchat |
| 12:12 am | dawnbierschwal: | Houston, we have lift off. #scriptchat |
| 12:12 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat @cinematicshot kept on bugging me with his obsession with high concept. I didn't really get what it was until now. |
| 12:12 am | yeah_write: | Better late than never. lol #scriptchat |
| 12:12 am | lizziside: | Tweetchat is posting but won't show updates in there #scriptchat |
| 12:12 am | diannesalerni: | Quick, before it disappears -- what is High Concept? #scriptchat |
| 12:12 am | cinematicshot: | #scriptchat Invisible tweeting. High concept! |
| 12:13 am | dawnbierschwal: | OK, let's do this! #scriptchat |
| 12:13 am | yeah_write: | Okay folks, let's enjoy it while it's up. Even if really slow. Tonight's topic is High concept. #scriptchat |
| 12:21 am | RickRapier: | Well, I hope someone gets something out of tonight's cluster. Best to everyone who hit it hard at #GAPF. Nite #scriptchat ters wherever U R. |
| 12:21 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat High concept is, to put it in vulgar terms, a gimmick. As in Little Miss Sunshine. The beauty contest. |
| 12:21 am | dawnbierschwal: | That's Avon Man 4 me! RT @thembob: HC ideas should be clever yet simple. makes other writers say, "why didn't I think of that?" #scriptchat |
| 12:21 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat Sunshine Cleaning: Protag starts making a living cleaning crime scenes. |
| 12:21 am | yeah_write: | RT @thembob: #scriptchat High Concept if, when you tell it to someone, they get excited and start telling you what happens next in the story |
| 12:22 am | blankethouse: | @yeah_write I had an uncle like that: high concept! #scriptchat |
| 12:22 am | Timsn: | RT @GCGeek: I know the #ScriptChat site is having issues. I found an article today about high concept... http://www.scriptforsale.com/james.shtml |
| 12:22 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat Blades of Glory: two male skaters pair up |
| 12:22 am | booksbelow: | High concept is an ironic term referring to an artistic work that can be easily described by succinctly stated premise-Wikipedia #scriptchat |
| 12:22 am | cinematicshot: | #scriptchat It's the cliche "unique but familiar" |
| 12:22 am | LisaFromNYC: | This is slooow. My prev tweet still hasn't posted. I wonder if this one will. hmm... #scriptchat |
| 12:22 am | KatherineCahoon: | One of my favorite high concept movies is Mean Girls. What is yours? #scriptchat |
| 12:23 am | CheekyWench: | *streaks* through #scriptchat |
| 12:23 am | Timsn: | On right now RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat Blades of Glory: two male skaters pair up |
| 12:23 am | yeah_write: | Tweetchat is back up for the time. #scriptchat |
| 12:23 am | diannesalerni: | Ok, I see why Blades of Glory fits the definition. What are some other examples? #scriptchat |
| 12:24 am | cinematicshot: | #scriptchat Alien: a monster movie in outer space. |
| 12:24 am | SPCWriter: | The #ScriptChat tweets are showing up for me so not sure what the problem is? |
| 12:24 am | dawnbierschwal: | @diannesalerni Snakes on a Plane, Jaws, Avon Man #scriptchat |
| 12:24 am | dizzydentfilms: | @diannesalerni #scriptchat The upcoming Butter. It's about a butter sculpting competition. |
| 12:24 am | yeah_write: | People should smile or laugh when you tell it. #scriptchat |
| 12:25 am | cinematicshot: | #scriptchat Die Hard in a _____. |
| 12:25 am | yeah_write: | So what goes into a high concept pitch? #scriptchat |
| 12:25 am | diannesalerni: | RT @booksbelow: Extreme example of high concept film is Snakes on a Plane which put its entire premise in the movie title itself #scriptchat |
| 12:25 am | booksbelow: | RT @dawnbierschwal: @diannesalerni Snakes on a Plane, Jaws, Avon Man #scriptchat |
| 12:25 am | LisaFromNYC: | @dawnbierschwal "Snakes on a Plane" is about as high as you get. lol #scriptchat |
| 12:25 am | cinematicshot: | @dawnbierschwal Snakes on a Plane perfect example #scriptchat |
| 12:25 am | zombiepal: | RT @GCGeek: My favorite high concept: A young Jedi knight narrowly avoids sleeping with his sister before the second sequel. #scriptchat |
| 12:25 am | sdarancette: | @booksbelow Then any pitch is high concept because most studio execs want to only hear succinctly stated premises #scriptchat |
| 12:26 am | dawnbierschwal: | People can "see" the movie's potential instantly from the concept. #scriptchat |
| 12:26 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat Frozen River: smuggling illegal aliens is not exactly original. Across a frozen river is. Same, but different. |
| 12:26 am | GeePawHill: | @booksbelow hmmmm. seems more like mono-concept to me, and a low one at that. #scriptchat |
| 12:26 am | yeah_write: | RT @LisaFromNYC: @dawnbierschwal "Snakes on a Plane" is about as high as you get. lol #scriptchat |
| 12:26 am | diannesalerni: | RT @zombiepal: RT @GCGeek: High concept: A young Jedi knight narrowly avoids sleeping with his sister before the second sequel. #scriptchat |
| 12:26 am | jmiewald: | Exactly. RT @sdarancette Then any pitch is high concept because most studio execs want to only hear succinctly stated premises #scriptchat |
| 12:27 am | dawnbierschwal: | HC must have a ?2nd level of sell? or won?t be enough depth to sustain concept? often the love story. Liar Liar good example #scriptchat |
| 12:27 am | cinematicshot: | #scriptchat Shaun of the Dead: a rom-com w/ zombies. A zom-com |
| 12:27 am | yeah_write: | So does anyone want to share a real or fake one sentence high concept pitch? #scriptchat |
| 12:27 am | thewritertype: | #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane. |
| 12:27 am | booksbelow: | I think most High Concept films should more properly be called Low Concept :-) #scriptchat |
| 12:27 am | LisaFromNYC: | For a couple of comedy scripts I have, HC is actually being able to see the logline in posters I made #scriptchat |
| 12:27 am | dawnbierschwal: | High Concept not just succinctly stated but easily Marketable... #scriptchat |
| 12:27 am | WriterSchilf: | HC: Jaws = man vs creature. Twister = man vs disaster. Gladiator = man vs man. 1 word title; we get the whole film #scriptchat |
| 12:28 am | dizzydentfilms: | RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane. |
| 12:28 am | yeah_write: | @dizzydentfilms BUTTER was on 2008 Blacklist. I just got the script. Can't wait to read. #scriptchat |
| 12:28 am | jolenejahnke: | Apologies to #scriptchat crew... mad game of Cities & Knights Catan |
| 12:28 am | booksbelow: | LOL! RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane. |
| 12:28 am | WriterSchilf: | In a pitch, the title is a huge part of the HC. Wedding Crashers. Home Alone. RoboCop. It's just obvious #scriptchat |
| 12:29 am | GCGeek: | @LisaFromNYC Is the logline synonymous with high concept or are they different? #scriptchat |
| 12:29 am | yeah_write: | RT @WriterSchilf: In a pitch, the title is a huge part of the HC. Wedding Crashers. Home Alone. RoboCop. Its just obvious #scriptchat |
| 12:29 am | LisaFromNYC: | hehe RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane #scriptchat |
| 12:29 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat Lars and the Blow Up Doll: typical indie high concept crap |
| 12:29 am | sdarancette: | great classical examples from the drug-fueled 80's: TOP GUN, GHOSTBUSTERS, BEVERLY HILLS COP, DIE HARD. #scriptchat #drugsmakebettermovies |
| 12:29 am | cinematicshot: | Buried: A thriller in a coffin #scriptchat |
| 12:29 am | dawnbierschwal: | The easier it is for the studio to get excited about w/few words.. the easier they know it is to sell, regardless of cast #scriptchat |
| 12:29 am | lizziside: | I can't see why HC pitches effectively with respect to LC #scriptchat |
| 12:29 am | yeah_write: | @WriterSchilf My current WIP is call Soccer Mom. It's the one liner afterward that makes it HC #scriptchat |
| 12:31 am | yeah_write: | When the faces in the room light up after you deliver your pitch, you know you've got them. That's what High Concept is about. #scriptchat |
| 12:32 am | yeah_write: | And down again.... #scriptchat |
| 12:34 am | CDominiqueG: | @yeah_write Ok I missed a few minutes ... for slow people like myself, what's High Concept Film??? #scriptchat |
| 12:34 am | LisaFromNYC: | testing 1...2...3.... #scriptchat |
| 12:35 am | Timsn: | Frozen another great high concept movie #scriptchat |
| 12:35 am | CheekyWench: | I hope that was high concept enough :( RT @CDominiqueG: RT @CheekyWench: *streaks* through/// interesting #scriptchat |
| 12:35 am | yeah_write: | @CDominiqueG The chat isn't working, so you haven't missed much, if anything. #scriptchat |
| 12:35 am | CDominiqueG: | I'm sorry who's hosting today??? #scriptchat |
| 12:35 am | dawnbierschwal: | The script I'm working on now is High Concept... as soon as I had the idea a dozen trailer scenes were in my head. #scriptchat |
| 12:36 am | GCGeek: | RT @LisaFromNYC logline is a brief statement/s on what script is. If HC, logline is easier to shorten. LC, takes bit more (2 me) #scriptchat |
| 12:36 am | AbdurRabb: | RT @CDominiqueG: I'm sorry who's hosting today??? #scriptchat |
| 12:36 am | WriterSchilf: | HC is also often something "meets" something. eg: Die Hard in High School #scriptchat |
| 12:36 am | yeah_write: | @WriterSchilf There is a twist to the typical soccer mom, but I'm not giving it up just yet. #scriptchat |
| 12:36 am | thewritertype: | #scriptchat My second novel is called Dead Writers in Rehab. If it works for films, it can work for books. I hope. |
| 12:36 am | CDominiqueG: | @CheekyWench he he he... definitely high concept #scriptchat |
| 12:36 am | LisaFromNYC: | @GCGeek logline is a brief sentence/s on what script is. If HC, the logline is easier to shorten. LC, takes a bit more (to me) #scriptchat |
| 12:36 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat @sdarancette What about Hitchcock? |
| 12:36 am | GCGeek: | @LisaFromNYC Thank you! #scriptchat |
| 12:36 am | CDominiqueG: | is high concept film anything like concept cars? *I promise I'm trying* #scriptchat |
| 12:37 am | LisaFromNYC: | @GCGeek TY. I had to retweet it because it didn't show up :( #scriptchat |
| 12:37 am | dawnbierschwal: | If they studio exec says "I want to read it after just log line you can be pretty sure it's HC. #scriptchat |
| 12:37 am | diannesalerni: | Can we guess? RT @yeah_write: @WriterSchilf There is a twist to the typical soccer mom, but Im not giving it up just yet. #scriptchat |
| 12:37 am | Timsn: | RT @AbdurRabb: RT @CDominiqueG: I'm sorry who's hosting today??? #scriptchat @yeah_write is hosting |
| 12:37 am | cinematicshot: | @yeah_write the soccer mom's a virgin! #scriptchat |
| 12:37 am | booksbelow: | The Birds, Psycho- pretty much tell the story! RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat @sdarancette What about Hitchcock? |
| 12:37 am | yeah_write: | RT @dawnbierschwal: If they studio exec says "I want to read it after just log line you can be pretty sure its HC. #scriptchat |
| 12:37 am | ozzywood: | Howdy from Sydney! #scriptchat |
| 12:38 am | yeah_write: | Immaculate conception. Thanks for giving it away. lol RT @cinematicshot: @yeah_write the soccer moms a virgin! #scriptchat |
| 12:38 am | ozzywood: | Does HC change over the years? Watched DAYS OF THUNDER last night and it didn't feel HC any longer. #scriptchat |
| 12:38 am | yeah_write: | Good to have you here, as long as the chat is still working. RT @ozzywood: Howdy from Sydney! #scriptchat |
| 12:38 am | dawnbierschwal: | I think HC is not just about brevity... it's about relatability, emotion and the ability to "see" the movie with just few words. #scriptchat |
| 12:38 am | KatherineCahoon: | @yeah_write I read it a few months ago! #scriptchat |
| 12:38 am | sdarancette: | RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat @sdarancette What about Hitchcock? Hmm good point. His ideas were broad, too #scriptchat. |
| 12:38 am | ozzywood: | The definition of HC in the 90's was: "Simpson/Bruckheimer". #scriptchat |
| 12:39 am | midos_mom: | Can't follow #scriptchat this eve. Will go out for drinking al fresco instead. Next time! |
| 12:39 am | diannesalerni: | Soccer Mom & the Zombie Lover; Soccer Mom: Mafia Godmother; Soccer Mom: The Spy Who Loved Everyone @Yeah_Write How 'm I doin'? #scriptchat |
| 12:39 am | KageyNYC: | Good question. RT @ozzywood: Does HC change over the years? Watched DAYS OF THUNDER last night and it didn't feel HC any longer. #scriptchat |
| 12:39 am | CDominiqueG: | @yeah_write Im still confused :-( #scriptchat |
| 12:39 am | sdarancette: | I wonder because critics mostly consider high concept recent popcorn fluff they won't mention Hitchcock in the same breath #scriptchat |
| 12:40 am | yeah_write: | About? RT @CDominiqueG: @yeah_write Im still confused :-( #scriptchat |
| 12:40 am | cinematicshot: | Days of Thunder had that Tom Cruise formula though. Cocky young hot shot learns humility and wins in the end #scriptchat |
| 12:40 am | iamJaymes: | *appears* hello #scriptchat |
| 12:40 am | CDominiqueG: | RT @cinematicshot: Buried: A thriller in a coffin /// lol #scriptchat |
| 12:40 am | sdarancette: | I still like my COUNTER INTELLIGENCE idea, no one is applauding yet? #scriptchat #ideasareeasystoriesarehard |
| 12:40 am | ozzywood: | HC changes over time. RT @sdarancette: critics mostly consider high concept recent popcorn fluff they wont mention Hitchcock #scriptchat |
| 12:40 am | yeah_write: | Not even close. RT @diannesalerni: Soccer Mom & the Zombie Lover; Soccer Mom: Mafia Godmother; Soccer Mom: ...How 'm I doin'? #scriptchat |
| 12:41 am | CDominiqueG: | @Timsn thanks sweetie #scriptchat |
| 12:41 am | dawnbierschwal: | @ozzywood Can't even remember what Days of Thunder was about...other than race cars... was it HC? #scriptchat |
| 12:41 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat cnt get more HC than Wages of Fear: 3 blokes risk their lives 2 deliver nitroglycerin across rugged terrain in South America |
| 12:41 am | SPCWriter: | hmm ok, there does seem to be a delay or something? #ScriptChat |
| 12:41 am | WriterSchilf: | HC: Take the norm and flip it. e.g. Daddy Day Care. Don't even need a logline. Studio see entire movie in title alone #scriptchat |
| 12:41 am | BigfootandGray: | You have to be careful a lot of High Concepts are Low Character. Even the greatest idea can fail without a good character story. #scriptchat |
| 12:41 am | CDominiqueG: | @yeah_write what's High Concept ... I wasn't paying much attention, Im trying to learn #scriptchat |
| 12:41 am | booksbelow: | Jurassic Park would seem to be a good example #scriptchat |
| 12:41 am | yeah_write: | You can take an old worn out story and put a freaky new twist on it to make it HC. #scriptchat |
| 12:41 am | ozzywood: | Exactly. It was back then! RT @dawnbierschwal: @ozzywood Cant even remember what Days of Thunder was about..other than race cars #scriptchat |
| 12:42 am | dizzydentfilms: | @filmhana It's not a bad thing. But it's about the only thing that will sell. #scriptchat |
| 12:42 am | dawnbierschwal: | Exactly! RT @WriterSchilf: HC: Take the norm and flip it. e.g. Daddy Day Care. Dont even need a logline. #scriptchat |
| 12:42 am | ozzywood: | Agreed. RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat cnt get more HC than Wages of Fear #scriptchat |
| 12:42 am | sdarancette: | I got another: Inspired by the serials of the 40's and 50's. An adventurer is sent to find a holy relic that is wanted by nazis #scriptchat |
| 12:42 am | dawnbierschwal: | @ozzywood But if it was high concept, shouldn't I remember it? #scriptchat |
| 12:42 am | ozzywood: | RT @booksbelow: Jurassic Park would seem to be a good example #scriptchat |
| 12:43 am | yeah_write: | @CDominiqueG HC is the type of script that can sell itself on the one line pitch. It has such a wide appeal that studio want. #scriptchat |
| 12:45 am | MinouChatte: | RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane. |
| 12:45 am | iamJaymes: | @yeah_write @CDominiqueG example "SNAKES ON A PLANE!" "omg let's make that movie" *movie flops* Not all HC movies work xD #scriptchat |
| 12:45 am | ozzywood: | I guess SAVE THE CAT has a lot of wisdom on (high) concept. #scriptchat |
| 12:45 am | dawnbierschwal: | High Concept sells the ticket. The secondary stories make it something you want to see again. #scriptchat |
| 12:45 am | iamJaymes: | I hate not having tweetchat, having to add the #scriptchat myself is quite the pain in the rear. |
| 12:45 am | sdarancette: | RT @ozzywood: HC in the 90's was: "Simpson/Bruckheimer". - Check out book HIGH CONCEPT by Charles Fleming. #scriptchat |
| 12:45 am | cinematicshot: | RT @sdarancette: I got another: Inspired by the serials of the 40's and 50's. An adventurer is sent to find a holy relic that is wanted by nazis #scriptchat |
| 12:45 am | yeah_write: | RT @WriterSchilf: A logline create interest 4 studio 2 read. but HC logline, studio doesn't have 2 read. they C the movie alrdy. #scriptchat |
| 12:46 am | CDominiqueG: | @iamJaymes ahhh. ok now I get it. thanks :-D #scriptchat |
| 12:46 am | yeah_write: | @iamJaymes Tweetchat is www.tweetchat.com it's a web site. #scriptchat |
| 12:46 am | KatherineCahoon: | @WriterSchilf Agreed! #scriptchat |
| 12:46 am | dawnbierschwal: | RT @WriterSchilf: A logline can create interest for studio to read. but HC logline, studio doesn't have to read. #scriptchat |
| 12:47 am | ozzywood: | Not very useful to define HC in terms of its OUTCOME (studio interested) when you're looking for a HC yourself. #scriptchat |
| 12:47 am | GCGeek: | Do you shoot for a title that is HC if possible, or only if it really works? #scriptchat |
| 12:47 am | yeah_write: | RT @dawnbierschwal: High Concept sells the ticket. The secondary stories make it something you want to see again. #scriptchat |
| 12:47 am | dawnbierschwal: | @WriterSchilf It;s sold BEFORE they read the script. They just read to know if they're going to need another writer! : ) #scriptchat |
| 12:47 am | jmiewald: | HC is an easily marketable film that will make money on opening weekend. I.e., the only movies made anymore. #scriptchat |
| 12:47 am | LisaFromNYC: | Once u pitch it, others have to pitch it as well, Snakes on a plane makes an easy pitch to recall. visual, succint etc.. #scriptchat |
| 12:47 am | sdarancette: | RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat Fish out of water stories seem to fit it almost instantly. BH Cop, Kindergarden Cop... |
| 12:48 am | Timsn: | A HC logline can be great but -- great concept, bad movie happens a lot #scriptchat |
| 12:48 am | dawnbierschwal: | I think HC is usually timeless. #scriptchat |
| 12:48 am | yeah_write: | When the execs start telling you what happens next, that is HC pitch. And you just sold it! lol #scriptchat |
| 12:48 am | sdarancette: | Then there is RACIST COP, then CLOWN COP, then MALL COP (shit they did that one!) COP COP, SPACE COP, DOG COP #scriptchat |
| 12:49 am | yeah_write: | Our wonderful Twitter writer, @thembob wrote HC when he wrote KILLERS. #scriptchat |
| 12:49 am | ozzywood: | Now that's only for your entertainment!! LOL (very rare BTW) RT @sdarancette: Check out book HIGH CONCEPT by Charles Fleming. #scriptchat |
| 12:49 am | dawnbierschwal: | Yes, and to a potential audience RT @LisaFromNYC: Once u pitch it, others have to pitch it as well... #scriptchat |
| 12:49 am | yeah_write: | RT @thembob: High concept ideas should be so clever yet simple that makes all other writers say, "why didn't I think of that?" #scriptchat |
| 12:50 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat Wizard of Oz was a 1939 film. HC has been around for a long time. |
| 12:50 am | sdarancette: | HC films are usually a product of packaging, an action star looking for a script they can fashion to fit him. #scriptchat |
| 12:50 am | Timsn: | @jmiewald Once in a while you get a good movie like Winters Bone but mostly you're righ! #scriptchat |
| 12:50 am | yeah_write: | RT @thembob: Your idea is High Concept if, when you tell it to someone, they get excited and start telling u what happens next #scriptchat |
| 12:50 am | dawnbierschwal: | Oh just read that script. Bravo! RT @yeah_write: Our wonderful Twitter writer, @thembob wrote HC when he wrote KILLERS. #scriptchat |
| 12:50 am | ozzywood: | So how do you define HC in creative terms? While you're working on it? Not many have privilege of 'testing' with studios. #scriptchat |
| 12:50 am | sdarancette: | @ozzywood Its available on amazon. #scriptchat |
| 12:50 am | The_Jodi: | Hmmmm. Almost as if HC is a double edged sword. At least in the sense that what SHOULD be fun often isn't upon execution. #scriptchat |
| 12:51 am | ozzywood: | RT @yeah_write: RT @thembob: HC should be so clever yet simple that makes all other writers say, "why didnt I think of that?" #scriptchat |
| 12:51 am | yeah_write: | RT @dawnbierschwal: I think HC is usually timeless. #scriptchat |
| 12:51 am | ozzywood: | RT @sdarancette: HC films are usually a product of packaging, an action star looking for a script they can fashion to fit him. #scriptchat |
| 12:51 am | dawnbierschwal: | High Concept can sell with unknown cast. #scriptchat |
| 12:51 am | WriterSchilf: | Let's be honest. Show business is a business. $$$! And HC fuels film business. HC = they SEE ENTIRE FILM in a word or 2. #scriptchat |
| 12:52 am | scott_logie: | Late to #scriptchat. I think HC films also have some predicability in the second act. Not a bad thing, the outcome still needs to be novel. |
| 12:52 am | thewritertype: | RT @dawnbierschwal: High Concept sells the ticket. The secondary stories make it something you want to see again. #scriptchat |
| 12:52 am | ozzywood: | The more I think about it, the more I disagree. RT @yeah_write: RT @dawnbierschwal: I think HC is usually timeless. #scriptchat |
| 12:52 am | yeah_write: | @thembob couldn't be with us tonight, because he's traveling, but he did give my those tidbits to include in the chat. Thanks. #scriptchat |
| 12:53 am | ozzywood: | So we have 2 TYPES OF HC: 1) HC Package and 2) HC Idea. RT @dawnbierschwal: High Concept can sell with unknown cast. #scriptchat |
| 12:53 am | cinematicshot: | When selling a script how important is concept compared to storytelling? #scriptchat #scriptchat |
| 12:53 am | Timsn: | Usually HC involves a star. #scriptchat |
| 12:54 am | WriterSchilf: | @The_Jodi Execution is of little concern. HC can be packaged, marketed, make it's money in the first weekend. HC sells tickets #scriptchat |
| 12:54 am | Timsn: | RT @yeah_write: Exactly! RT @WriterSchilf: Lets be honest. Show business is a business. $$$! #scriptchat |
| 12:54 am | dawnbierschwal: | @ozzywood What's a high concept movie that isn't? #scriptchat |
| 12:54 am | ozzywood: | HC sells without story. RT @cinematicshot: When selling a script how important is concept compared to storytelling? #scriptchat #scriptchat |
| 12:54 am | lizziside: | Maybe with time HC has taken to look more&more like a marketing tool rather than a creative process #scriptchat |
| 12:54 am | yeah_write: | @cinematicshot Win them over with the concept, then dazzle the crap out of them with the storytelling, or they'll get new writer #scriptchat |
| 12:54 am | booksbelow: | If looking for books on script writing (or anything else) site http://vialibri.net searches almost all used books on Internet #scriptchat |
| 12:54 am | dizzydentfilms: | RT @cinematicshot: When selling a script how important is concept compared to storytelling? #scriptchat You and your hard questions James! |
| 12:54 am | WriterSchilf: | @cinematicshot Everything. U can have a great concept and horrible execution. Studio buys your script, then rewrites it. #scriptchat |
| 12:55 am | LifesizeLD: | HC will get you a read, but it takes execution to pull off a sale. #scriptchat |
| 12:55 am | thewritertype: | @ozzywood #scriptchat Maybe HC changes over time bcs part of what makes it HC is novelty, even if it combines old in new way. |
| 12:56 am | yeah_write: | Since we got a late start, would anyone be interested in going a little over time? #scriptchat |
| 12:56 am | booksbelow: | RT @yeah_write: Win them over with the concept, then dazzle the crap out of them with the storytelling-or they'll get new writer #scriptchat |
| 12:56 am | dawnbierschwal: | @ozzywood Or Highly Marketable Package v. High Concept Idea. You can sell Low concept with great cast "OnN Golden Pond" #scriptchat |
| 12:56 am | sdarancette: | Many times writers with clout will just pitch a HC to an exec and get a script deal to write the film. No story yet. #scriptchat |
| 12:56 am | dizzydentfilms: | #scriptchat More & more my thinking is, unless it's 4 u 2 direct, dont bother writing it unless it's HC. ive sevrl of those scripts. |
| 12:56 am | ozzywood: | RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat HC changes over time bcs part of what makes it HC is novelty, even if it combines old in new way. #scriptchat |
| 12:57 am | WriterSchilf: | Thre are a lot of bad HC movies that make $. But if you're smart, you write HC with great characters. #scriptchat |
| 12:57 am | ozzywood: | RT @dawnbierschwal Highly Marketable Package v. High Concept Idea. You can sell Low concept with great cast "OnN Golden Pond" #scriptchat |
| 12:57 am | dawnbierschwal: | Or another writer assigned. : ) RT @LifesizeLD: HC will get you a read, but it takes execution to pull off a sale. #scriptchat |
| 12:57 am | ozzywood: | RT @dizzydentfilms: #scriptchat unless its 4 u 2 direct, dont bother writing it unless its HC. ive sevrl of those scripts. #scriptchat |
| 12:57 am | booksbelow: | Do we get time and a half? RT @yeah_write: Since we got a late start, would anyone be interested in going a little over time? #scriptchat |
| 12:57 am | cinematicshot: | I guess execution gets you hired for writing assignments and concept sells your script #scriptchat #scriptchat |
| 12:58 am | ozzywood: | RT @WriterSchilf: Thre are a lot of bad HC movies that make $. But if youre smart, you write HC with great characters. #scriptchat |
| 12:58 am | scott_logie: | Remember it's high _concept_. By the time you package, you're well beyond concept. A film is or isn't HC at the idea stage. #scriptchat |
| 12:58 am | thewritertype: | RT @yeah_write Win them over with concept, dazzle the crap out of them with storytelling, or they'll get new writer #scriptchat |
| 12:58 am | KageyNYC: | Bingo! RT @WriterSchilf: if you're smart, you write HC with great characters. #scriptchat |
| 12:58 am | yeah_write: | If you have a great concept you can sell the idea If you can't tell the story well, the studio now owns it & will get new writer #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | cinematicshot: | @yeah_write I'll stick around a bit longer #scriptchat #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | GCGeek: | @yeah_write I believe there's at least 10 minutes of overage due in this World Cup chat #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | ozzywood: | Execution doesn't matter. @dawnbierschwal is right. You sell & leave. RT @LifesizeLD: it takes execution to pull off a sale. #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | lizziside: | @yeah_write It's 3AM over here in Italy and must get up early in the morning - so I'll pass.Thx and I'll read the transcript :-) #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | Timsn: | Can remakes and spinoffs be considered considered HC? #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | yeah_write: | Exactly. RT @scott_logie: By the time you package, youre well beyond concept. A film is or isnt HC at the idea stage. #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | WriterSchilf: | There are really 2 options. Write HC or a character driven script. e.g. The Wrestler. You sell to studio (HC) or to Actors #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | sdarancette: | And the 3-D craze lately I would put in the HC catagory. #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | yeah_write: | RT @KageyNYC: Bingo! RT @WriterSchilf: if youre smart, you write HC with great characters. #scriptchat |
| 12:59 am | dizzydentfilms: | @cinematicshot #scriptchat Yup. We want to get paid to write crap dammit! |
| 1:00 am | KatherineCahoon: | Did any of you attend #GAPF? How was it? #scriptchat |
| 1:00 am | ozzywood: | RT @yeah_write: If you have a HC you sell the idea. If you cant tell the story well, studio now owns it & will get new writer #scriptchat |
| 1:00 am | yeah_write: | If everyone wants to stick around, I'll keep the chat running for a bit before pulling the transcript. #scriptchat |
| 1:00 am | diannesalerni: | @Timsn I think the Bewitched movie was supposed to be -- but it was just awful. #scriptchat |
| 1:00 am | The_Jodi: | True re: execution :) There is the whole take the money and run concept! #scriptchat |
| 1:00 am | ozzywood: | Alien vs. Predator? RT @Timsn: Can remakes and spinoffs be considered considered HC? #scriptchat |
| 1:00 am | yeah_write: | @dawnbierschwal Aren't you all about HC in your writing? #scriptchat |
| 1:01 am | rjtbaum: | RT @ozzywood: RT @yeah_write: If you have a HC you sell the idea. If you cant tell the story well, studio now owns it & will get new writer #scriptchat |
| 1:01 am | dawnbierschwal: | That's execution, not concept. RT @sdarancette: And the 3-D craze lately I would put in the HC catagory. #scriptchat |
| 1:01 am | ozzywood: | Wrong. Woody Allen won't be HC in 3D. RT @sdarancette: And the 3-D craze lately I would put in the HC catagory. #scriptchat |
| 1:01 am | yeah_write: | Just getting paid would be nice. RT @dizzydentfilms: @cinematicshot #scriptchat Yup. We want to get paid to write crap dammit! #scriptchat |
| 1:01 am | sdarancette: | RT @ozzywood: Alien vs. Predator? RT @Timsn: Can remakes and spinoffs be considered considered HC? #scriptchat - I say yes. |
| 1:02 am | fungchen3: | @WriterSchilf Good advice. Classic example - Edward Norton w/ Down In The Valley #scriptchat |
| 1:02 am | CDominiqueG: | @yeah_write my fake pitch : "Riot Fan" The final whistle doesn't end the game... #scriptchat |
| 1:02 am | dawnbierschwal: | Totally. I won;t write if not. RT @yeah_write: @dawnbierschwal Arent you all about HC in your writing? #scriptchat |
| 1:02 am | sdarancette: | Sequels are still HC if they are running with the same HC as the previous film. Almost all sequels are HC, it seems #scriptchat |
| 1:02 am | cinematicshot: | Hannah and Her Sisters ... in 3D! #scriptchat #scriptchat |
| 1:02 am | yeah_write: | I think I'll attend the Fade In Pitch Fest in August and pitch only HC. #scriptchat |
| 1:03 am | dawnbierschwal: | I was so annoyed that I didn't coming up with Avon Man! #scriptchat |
| 1:03 am | WriterSchilf: | Go HC, but make it original w/unforgettable characters. No one cares about Riddick, but Indian Jones is iconic #scriptchat |
| 1:03 am | yeah_write: | Good one. lol RT @CDominiqueG: @yeah_write my fake pitch : "Riot Fan" The final whistle doesnt end the game... #scriptchat |
| 1:03 am | ozzywood: | Would have been HC 15ys ago. RT @cinematicshot: Hannah and Her Sisters ... in 3D! #scriptchat #scriptchat |
| 1:03 am | ozzywood: | RT @WriterSchilf: Go HC, but make it original w/unforgettable characters. No one cares about Riddick, but Indian Jones is iconic #scriptchat |
| 1:03 am | CDominiqueG: | @KatherineCahoon thanks ! #scriptchat |
| 1:03 am | sdarancette: | Even THE GODFATHER and the even better GODFATHER II are HC sequels. They just happen to be great stories too #scriptchat |
| 1:04 am | thewritertype: | @Timsn #scriptchat Maybe remakes are most high concept of all, like Peter's idea in Family Guy: "Jaws meets Bigger Jaws." |
| 1:04 am | KageyNYC: | Yes, good one. RT @ozzywood: Alien vs. Predator? RT @Timsn: Can remakes and spinoffs be considered considered HC? #scriptchat |
| 1:04 am | yeah_write: | @diannesalerni Sending you a DM, cuz I know you want to know. lol #scriptchat |
| 1:04 am | KatherineCahoon: | @CDominiqueG High Concept is a concept that can be succintly described...often in the title. Everyone says, "I get it!" #scriptchat |
| 1:04 am | WriterSchilf: | Sometimes HC is already around u. I knew a group of guys that crashed weddings, but I never wrote Wedding Crashers #scriptchat |
| 1:04 am | cinematicshot: | The A-Team Part B #scriptchat #scriptchat |
| 1:05 am | diannesalerni: | @yeah_write Cool! If you're not using Soccer Mom and the Zombie Lover, I might go for it. LOL! #scriptchat |
| 1:05 am | ruminski: | Quick hello to #scriptchat & a reminder - HC isn't just H'wood: PRIMER, PI, MOON, MEMENTO, and that's just off the top of my head... |
| 1:05 am | scott_logie: | If HC films juxtapose two unexpected story elements, once it's been done once, it feels less HC to do it again (re: sequels) #scriptchat |
| 1:05 am | yeah_write: | @WriterSchilf Or what about Gran Torino? #scriptchat |
| 1:05 am | dawnbierschwal: | True! RT @WriterSchilf: Sometimes HC is already around u. I knew guys that crashed weddings, but I never wrote Wedding Crashers #scriptchat |
| 1:06 am | CDominiqueG: | @yeah_write lol thought you'd like that, where'd @iamjaymes go? #scriptchat |
| 1:06 am | yeah_write: | I want to read that. RT @diannesalerni: @yeah_write Cool! If youre not using Soccer Mom and the Zombie Lover, I might go for it #scriptchat |
| 1:06 am | fungchen3: | Where would Rocky rate in terms of a HC script when being shopped by Sly in the 70s? #scriptchat |
| 1:06 am | ozzywood: | True. Execution wasn't HC. RT @ruminski: HC isnt just Hwood: PRIMER, PI, MOON, MEMENTO, and thats just off the top of my head... #scriptchat |
| 1:06 am | cinematicshot: | @WriterSchilf truth is stranger than fiction. Lots of ideas in the news alone. #scriptchat |
| 1:06 am | WriterSchilf: | Once u embrace HC as the road to follow, make sure to fill entire iceberg with amazing characters #scriptchat |
| 1:06 am | dawnbierschwal: | @yeah_write What's the concept of Gran Torino? #scriptchat |
| 1:06 am | yeah_write: | RT @cinematicshot: @WriterSchilf truth is stranger than fiction. Lots of ideas in the news alone. #scriptchat |
| 1:07 am | sdarancette: | @dawnbierschwal No I would include concept. The 3D films have simplier stories in order to serve the 3D more effiiciently . HC. #scriptchat |
| 1:07 am | atul666: | RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat You can mix n' match successful high concept: The 40 Year Old Snake. Virgins on a Plane. |
| 1:07 am | yeah_write: | As @WriterSchilf said, it's the stuff that goes on around you. You just have to keep asking "what if." #scriptchat |
| 1:07 am | ozzywood: | Is drama ever HC? Probably not. RT @dawnbierschwal: @yeah_write Whats the concept of Gran Torino? #scriptchat |
| 1:07 am | booksbelow: | @yeah_write Congrats on pulling off a great #scriptchat under almost impossible circumstances #twitterfail! |
| 1:07 am | WriterSchilf: | Gran Torino was character driven. Eastwood loved the character RT @yeah_write what about Gran Torino? #scriptchat |
| 1:10 am | yeah_write: | BTW Clint Eastwood is married to the newscaster from my hometown. They met at a charity event. #scriptchat |
| 1:12 am | cinematicshot: | @yeah_write That's HC! When an aging movie star meets a smalltown newscaster at a charity event ... #scriptchat |
| 1:12 am | WriterSchilf: | Drama can be HC, but of all the genres, Drama has most non HC examples. Almost every ROM-COM has to be HC #scriptchat |
| 1:12 am | sdarancette: | @scott_logie GODFATHER is Generations of a Mafia Family is seen as the son of the don becomes a new godfather. Pretty simple. #scriptchat |
| 1:14 am | CDominiqueG: | @yeah_write i think i can actually , characters are blooming in my mind #scriptchat |
| 1:14 am | yeah_write: | @cinematicshot Well, 240,000 people small town. lol #scriptchat |
| 1:18 am | yeah_write: | Okay, the chat is frozen again. Calling it a night. Thanks to those who attended. #scriptchat |
| 1:18 am | GCGeek: | Take 2! RT @GCGeek Would you consider "Groundhog Day" becoming an HC term itself for Déjà vu after its mainstream success? #scriptchat |
| 1:19 am | yeah_write: | @dawnbierschwal Thanks for your support tonight Dawn. I appreciate it! #scriptchat |
Sunday, June 27, 2010
Transcript from Sunday June 27, 2010 - High Concept
There was no EURO chat because Twitter decided not to allow search, and Tweetchat.com complied. The North American chat was in and out, but I've added what there was of it. Sorry for the crappy chat night. Bad Twitter, bad, bad Twitter.
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