Euro scriptchat joins in and starts off our discussion, lead by @DreamsGrafter, @johnrackham @dougkissock
Regular scriptchat lead by @jeannevb, @zacsanford, @yeah_write and @KageyNYC with the help of our lovely blog mistress @rachlanger
8:00 am DreamsGrafter: #Scriptchat Sunday ... Subject: Characters! How do you develop your characters?
8:02 am DreamsGrafter: Sometimes I wish I trained as an actor - so I could have a deeper understand about what drives character. #scriptchat
8:02 am dougkissock: @johnrackham Thanks again, John! #scriptchat
8:03 am DreamsGrafter: #Scriptchat - I usually start with a seed of a character. Usually based on a personal experience or a relationship ...
8:04 am dougkissock: #scriptchat That's the $64,000 question; asking it like that is similar to asking, "How do you cook your meals?" Not being flippant, but ...
8:05 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock @johnrackham Have started guys! Have clicked into #scriptchat to follow the thread of convos. How do u develop yr characters?
8:05 am dougkissock: #scriptchat it's always contextual. Before you cook, you need ingredients, a recipe etc and an idea of the finished meal. SPs r no different
8:06 am Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter how many actors have you met? ; ) I usually start with a situation, rather than a character, though it can happen #Scriptchat
8:07 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock so you start with the idea and develop your character for the bigger picture? ... #scriptchat
8:07 am dougkissock: #scriptchat you can't really develop 1 w/o the other. So for me, I always have to play mental tennis and bat between the two aspects of...
8:07 am johnrackham: #scriptchat I'm not sure that actor training gives you a deeper understanding of characters.
8:07 am dougkissock: #scriptchat narrative and character.
8:07 am ttimechitchat: @JasonArnopp R u aware of European #Scriptchat going on now? It's for aspiring & established screenwriters. If not, the US version @ 12A.
8:08 am dougkissock: #scriptchat As I understand it, the actor thing gives them POV, one of the main criticisms about SPs is that scenes are rarely told from...
8:08 am johnrackham: #scriptchat Some actors I know don't have a deep understanding of anything much.
8:09 am dougkissock: #scriptchat a char's POV. Whose scene is it? That's what every actor I know looks for first when reading a SP. There are so many POVs
8:09 am ttimechitchat: @JasonArnopp You can also access #Scriptchat via http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat
8:09 am dougkissock: #scriptchat it gets a bit confusing!
8:11 am DreamsGrafter: #scriptchat - And there's me thinking that actors have the secret key to unlock the secrets of characterisation ...
8:11 am dougkissock: #scriptchat Yes, Mina - trick to explain in 140 characters cos character never serves plot, always other way round but in order to make...
8:11 am ttimechitchat: @grattongirl R u aware of European #Scriptchat going on now? It's for aspiring & established screenwriters. If not, the US version @ 12A.
8:12 am dougkissock: #scriptchat the whole thing work, you still need some form of denouement! Which means tying-up loose ends neatly.
8:12 am DreamsGrafter: #scriptchat Yes, character pov is important. I'm writing a scene right now and had to remind myself what does each char. want fr each scene.
8:12 am ttimechitchat: @grattongirl You can also access #Scriptchat via http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat
8:13 am johnrackham: #scriptchat For an actor the most important character in a scene is the one they're playing. But then that's usually true with people.
8:14 am Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter I wish, some are made entirely of mahogony and the worst are from Ikea #Scriptchat
8:14 am jasonarnopp: Hate the word 'aspiring', but... RT @ttimechitchat: @JasonArnopp Aware of European #Scriptchat, for aspiring & established screenwriters?
8:15 am johnrackham: #scriptchat Everyone is the main character in their own story.
8:15 am DreamsGrafter: It was interesting pitching on Fri. I explained the emotional traj of a char but the producer wanted to know the action/story. #scriptchat
8:15 am dougkissock: #scriptchat Yeah, John's 100% right, the actor's view is generally the most limited, but the most holistic of that character.
8:16 am johnrackham: #scriptchat I try to play each character in my mind as I write.
8:17 am DreamsGrafter: I must admit, my characters' backstories change to suit the story - to make their actions plausible ... #scriptchat
8:17 am johnrackham: #scriptchat Some actors though will judge a character from the outside and play that view of the character.
8:17 am dougkissock: @johnrackham Yes! ending up schizo! #scriptchat
8:18 am johnrackham: #scriptchat It's much more real to only judge the character in the way that they'd judge themself
8:20 am johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat My characters change a lot as the story develops too.
8:20 am DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Ha ha! ... I need to meet more actors to dispel my romantic notion ... #scriptchat
8:21 am johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat But sometimes too my characters' actions change the story.
8:22 am filmutopia: #scriptchat most screenplay problems stem from insufficient work done on character development.
8:22 am DreamsGrafter: But the heart of the char is always the same. What they're looking for doesn't change but characteristics change 4 the story. #scriptchat
8:22 am johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat Someone I know thinks all th e best actors are stupid.
8:24 am johnrackham: @filmutopia #scriptchat I think you're right. If you know your characters, you always know what they would do.
8:24 am Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter Disagree. Characters need a journey, sometimes the goal is irrelevant by the end of the story #scriptchat
8:25 am DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Totally. I agree w/ the character's journey. What I meant is ... #scriptchat
8:26 am filmutopia: #scriptchat I develop characters on excel spreadsheets, columns for characters, rows for backstory, aims, desires, secrets, strengths, etc
8:26 am DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write W/ my script right now. The story has taken so many different forms and my character has changed quite a bit ... #scriptchat
8:26 am dougkissock: #scriptchat Characters need a journey, totally agree but more than that, they need an agenda; they need to have something to achieve from...
8:27 am dougkissock: #scriptchat the get go. What that agenda is, determines they size, style and shape of their journey.
8:27 am filmutopia: @johnrackham #scriptchat... that's my take. Plot flows from how unique groups of characters react to specific situations
8:27 am DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write But fundamentally, her journey is still one for her discovering her identity ... #scriptchat
8:29 am DreamsGrafter: Character needs an emotional journey - they need to gain something - but overall they need growth #scriptchat
8:29 am DreamsGrafter: If a character refuses to accept his/her growth, it becomes a tragedy - i.e. no catharthis at the end of story ... #scriptchat
8:30 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter But what do you mean by growth? #scriptchat
8:30 am johnrackham: @filmutopia #scriptchat Exactly. That's how Mike Leigh's films work.
8:31 am filmutopia: #scriptchat the difficulty with character with development, is that it's only ever as good as your empathy and observations of people
8:31 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter No always, realisitation and accpetance of one's weakness can still be tragic! #scriptchat
8:31 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock good question. in a nutshell, they need to learn something about themselves ... #scriptchat
8:32 am mckormickastley: RT @ttimechitchat: @grattongirl You can also access #Scriptchat via http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat [lurking]
8:32 am filmutopia: @paulswaronlove thanks, it works well because you can see the connections and conflicts between characters before plotting #scriptchat
8:33 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock so i guess if the character decides not to do something about it - that's tragic - #scriptchat
8:33 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock if they decide to change themselves ... catharthis ?? #scriptchat
8:35 am DreamsGrafter: @filmutopia i like your approach. i guess you can design your characters to provide different pressure points on each other ... #scriptchat
8:35 am Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter I cldn't say on urs, but seems to me writers *can* get so hung up on goal, the journey ends up "running on spot" #scriptchat
8:36 am johnrackham: RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat the difficulty with ch. development, is that it's only ever as good as your empathy & observations of people
8:36 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter Yes, that's an acceptance that they are wrong about something and need to change. Which might be the 'growth' #scriptchat
8:36 am Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter ...Or characters meander from one event to next w/o any indication of why such events "hang together" #scriptchat
8:36 am johnrackham: #scriptchat That would be one of the values of actor training for a screenwriter.
8:38 am filmutopia: #scriptchat @DreamsGrafter Yes, that's pretty much how I develop scripts, from the interplay of conflicts and connections
8:38 am dougkissock: @johnrackham yes, somebody on here noticed the other day that a guy at the gym put on deodorant b4 a workout and tweeted it... #scriptchat
8:38 am DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Yes, writers have to remember pursuit of goal = obstacles/challenges to forward characters' development #scriptchat
8:39 am dougkissock: @johnrackham .ind you is is a very successful director so is a natural at people watching! #scriptchat
8:42 am johnrackham: @dougkissock #scriptchat If you use the Mike Leigh approach the actors will develop the characters for you.
8:43 am DreamsGrafter: Char. dev is a bit like decorating. It's all about the preparation ... dramatic function, conflict and emotional journeys #scriptchat
8:44 am johnrackham: @323Talent We're on #scriptchat if you're interested in following the whole conversation.
8:44 am jeannevb: YEAH! So nice to wake up to find Euro #scriptchat is ON! THank u for joining! Can't wait to read the feed. #scriptchat
8:44 am DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Actually, that does sound quite familiar #scriptchat
8:45 am dougkissock: @johnrackham Yes, I'm sure and very effectively. Similar to WALKABOUT: Nick Roeg? #scriptchat
8:45 am jeannevb: great concept! RT @DreamsGrafter: Char. dev is a bit like decorating. Its all about the preparation ... #scriptchat
8:45 am DreamsGrafter: @filmutopia That's great. That's why I loved BSG - the interplay of character conflict occured on every level. Mindblowing drama #scriptchat
8:46 am filmutopia: #scriptchat I think some writer's obsession with character "truth" gets in the way of the cinema, there's more to cinema than inner conflict
8:46 am DreamsGrafter: Thank you! @jeannevb ... for establishing and inspiring #scriptchat! :)
8:47 am jeannevb: hey AMERICA, EURO #scriptchat ison (cc @kageynyc @yeah_write @zacsanford), if sleeping in, no fear we'll be back at 8pm EST #scriptchat
8:47 am brianspaeth: Ditto - I really do liking at it. RT @DreamsGrafter: Thank you! @jeannevb ... for establishing and inspiring #scriptchat! :)
8:47 am johnrackham: @dougkissock #scriptchat In much of his work, he talks to actors about people they know and selects the most interesting.
8:47 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter BSG?? #scriptchat
8:48 am jeannevb: @dawnbierschwal we're doing the same subject... we're already on it #scriptchat
8:48 am johnrackham: @dougkissock #scriptchat The actors work on the characters, then he chooses a situation to bring them together in improvisation
8:48 am filmutopia: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat Yeap, complex plotting for me comes out of dynamics of characters, their secrets and their histories
8:48 am johnrackham: @dougkissock #scriptchat then that work is refined into a script.
8:49 am jeannevb: @brianspaeth @DreamsGrafter awesome, glad its bringing joy : ) Now I wish I hadn't slept in! #scriptchat
8:49 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock Battlestar Galactica ... Pure conflict on every level. Never a dull moment. Great character work. #scriptchat
8:50 am jeannevb: @johnrackham i'm just hopping in, but i'd love to know John, if as an actor, u want backstory fr a writer that's not in script #scriptchat
8:50 am dougkissock: @johnrackham Yes, but he's a one-off; I don't think his way of working suits every project, but I agree it brings a docu feel! #scriptchat
8:50 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter OKay, TY! #scriptchat
8:51 am s1llysush1: RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat the difficulty w/ character w/ development, is that it's only ever as good as yr empathy & observations of ppl.
8:52 am manvsballoon: @filmutopia isn't the whole task to present a characters inner conflicts in a visual way?I think it's all about character-truth #scriptchat
8:52 am dougkissock: I may be painting a target on my own back, but I think it is possible to have too much conflict in a SP. #scriptchat
8:53 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock If the conflict is contrived, it will stick out like a sore thumb. The audience won't buy it ... #scriptchat
8:54 am filmutopia: @manvsballoon #scriptchat - No, the task is to create compelling cinema. Inner conflict is just one small facet of movie making
8:54 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock If the conflict is well crafted with credible motivation ... then the audience would be too involved to notice ... #scriptchat
8:55 am jeannevb: @dougkissock i actually had some1 read an outline & say "this all could NEVER happen to 1 char"... yet, it all happened 2 ME ha #scriptchat
8:55 am DreamsGrafter: @manvsballoon Yes, it's all about truth. That's what an audience relates to ... #scriptchat
8:55 am jeannevb: RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat - No, the task is to create compelling cinema Inner conflict is just one small facet of movie making #scriptchat
8:56 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter But even if it's credible, if you're in a multi-protagonist (TV) drama and lurch from conflict to conflict... #scriptchat
8:57 am DreamsGrafter: Inner conflict works best in conjuction with something else happening on a wider dramatic level ... #scriptchat
8:57 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter I just want to knock their heads together or walk away. And usually it's the latter! New Stargate Universe just #scriptchat
8:58 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter I just want to knock their heads together or walk away. And usually it's the latter! New Stargate Universe just.. #scriptchat
8:58 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock Drama is conflict. Without conflict, nothing is happening. The level of conflict can differ so that it's #scriptchat
8:58 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock not high octane throughout ... #scriptchat
8:58 am jeannevb: @johnrackham agree, but I still write backstory 1st to get to know char. Helps me differentiate chars so they dont sound same #scriptchat
8:58 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter reaching that stage for me. Jeez, bickering children. Get a grip on reality, idiots! Not entertaining! #scriptchat
9:00 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter Sorry, drama is conflict is an oversimplification, drama is setup and payoff with a huge helping of anticipation #scriptchat
9:00 am Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter The 3 Acts & its other versions R only of interest to screenwriters. Producers etc only want a story well told #scriptchat
9:00 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter In between. The conflict is there to provide the energy to fuel the drama. #scriptchat
9:01 am DreamsGrafter: @dougkissock True - but what forces the change from setup to payoff is conflict. That's what provides the turn ... #scriptchat
9:01 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter I think I've lost a tweet somewhere! #scriptchat
9:02 am filmutopia: #scriptchat A common mistake to see emotional turmoil and conflict as the same thing. Conflict can come from conflicting objectives.
9:02 am DreamsGrafter: RT @dougkissock @DreamsGrafter In between. The conflict is there to provide the energy to fuel the drama. #scriptchat (Agreed.)
9:03 am johnrackham: @jeannevb #scriptchat Me too, mostly. Some characters need more backstory than othes though.
9:03 am dougkissock: @filmutopia well said (conflict/turmoil) #scriptchat
9:03 am DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2write The 3 Acts & its other versions R only of interest to screenwriters. Producers etc only want a story well told #scriptchat
9:03 am Bang2write: @filmutopia Agreed. Lots of dramas have characters contemplating suicide but thinking about something not the same as doing #scriptchat
9:04 am jeannevb: Great stuff going on in EURO #scriptchat. Going to pull great tweets out to RT tonight! (cc @filmutopia @DreamsGrafter) #scriptchat
9:04 am DreamsGrafter: Guys, I'm enjoying #scriptchat a lot! But must bail. Gave myself an hr. Have mega deadline hanging over my head ... #scriptchat
9:04 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter Yeah, 3 acts is a tool like a camera. If the photographer get more excited about the camera than the images #scriptchat
9:04 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter then s/he is a camera operator! #scriptchat #scriptchat
9:05 am filmutopia: @Bang2write #scriptchat inner turmoil is popular in TV because it's cheap. Actor feeling sad/mad/disturbed is cheaper than a car chase
9:05 am dougkissock: @DreamsGrafter Bye! #scriptchat #scriptchat
9:05 am jeannevb: @DreamsGrafter thanks SO MUCH for heading this up! #scriptchat
9:05 am DreamsGrafter: Have a great rest of the Sunday! ... Discussion is gooood! #scriptchat - Thanks again @jeannevb !!! xox
9:08 am jeannevb: @filmutopia for me, I prefer inner turmoil over a car chase... so much more potential to draw audience in for longer period #scriptchat
9:08 am dougkissock: #scriptchat Right, that's me done for now. Off for a late lunch/very early dinner. Sunday roast, yum and a glass or 2 of vino!
9:08 am jeannevb: @filmutopia but i'm a girl : ) #scriptchat
9:08 am dougkissock: #scriptchat Bye, all! Have a good 'un!
9:09 am jeannevb: @dougkissock thanks, Doug. So honored our #scriptchat crossed over to your time zone. Thanks again for the help! #scriptchat
9:09 am dougkissock: @jeannevb last thought, I think u need both; the trick is getting them in the right place @ the right time! Bye! #scriptchat
9:11 am filmutopia: @jeannevb #scriptchat I'm a bloke and car chases bore the ass off me... but so does the manipulative use of inner turmoil.
9:11 am jeannevb: @dougkissock absolutely.... timing #scriptchat
9:12 am johnrackham: I hate to cite Wrong Turn as an example but there's a scene where they're in a fire tower in the forest. #scriptchat
9:12 am dougkissock: @dougkissock My pleasure, but I don't think I added anything-these guys are well smart! #scriptchat
9:12 am jeannevb: @filmutopia a balance is needed. Fabricated, over-exaggerated inner turmoil turns me off, for sure. Real & believable. #scriptchat
9:13 am johnrackham: The base of the tower is on fire. If they climb down the mutant hillbillies will eat them. If they stay put they'll burn. #scriptchat
9:13 am johnrackham: Action and a powerful dilemma. #scriptchat
9:14 am WriteOnRideOn: @filmutopia @jeannevb #scriptchat Some inner turmoil intriguing. Too much=TOO much. I like films w/some suspense. Some surprises, mystery.
9:14 am jeannevb: @filmutopia i'm adapting historical book. VERY fun to bring chars to life & figure out conflicts w facts, not fiction. Challenge #scriptchat
9:15 am filmutopia: @jeannevb #scriptchat - I rate emotional truth over emotional turmoil. Which is why movies like Lynch's "Straight Story" really work for me
9:15 am jeannevb: @filmutopia felt like a shrink. Figured out if he did x,y,& z in real life, what was his personality like...his inner wounds... #scriptchat
9:15 am johnrackham: Sorry to lower the tone with cheesy horror film reference #scriptchat
9:16 am jeannevb: @filmutopia truth. It's all about truth. Amen to that! #scriptchat
9:16 am jeannevb: @johnrackham haha.... at tonight's #scriptchat, we lower the tone with alcohol : ) #scriptchat
9:18 am jeannevb: @filmutopia i haven't seen STRAIGHT STORY.... will def need to find it. Thx #scriptchat
9:20 am jeannevb: thank you all so much for joining the discussion. If our European writers have insomnia, come back later to continue... #scriptchat
9:20 am filmutopia: @jeannevb #scriptchat what interests me as a writer at the moment is the use of metaphor to uncover deeper character truths. complex subject
9:21 am johnrackham: I love Straight Story #scriptchat
9:21 am johnrackham: RT @kingisafink: @johnrackham Something to be said for cheesy horror films. #scriptchat
9:22 am johnrackham: RT @kingisafink: @johnrackham Learn yr lessons where you can. PLUS having Eliza Dushku in there doesn't hurt... #scriptchat
9:22 am filmutopia: #scriptchat... that was fun and it didn't descend into name calling... that's a first for screenwriters talking technique! thanks folks
9:24 am jeannevb: @filmutopia did u always feel that way about metaphor or did u evolve to that over the years? #scriptchat
9:24 am johnrackham: I guess that's it. I enjoyed the discussion. Thanks everyone! #scriptchat
9:25 am jeannevb: @filmutopia So glad u enjoyed it. I was thrilled to see u here. #scriptchat
9:25 am filmutopia: @jeannevb #scriptchat It's a recent development. The last two screenplays moved more to towards metaphor and away from straight naturalism
9:28 am jeannevb: @filmutopia wonderful. Love when writing styles evolve.... and a writer lets them #scriptchat
9:40 am jeannevb: I hate this transcript site. Half feed missing (wthashtag site) Does anyone know of a diff't TRANSCRIPT site i can use for #scriptchat
9:41 am ReneeRenegade: RT @ttimechitchat: @grattongirl You can also access #Scriptchat via http://tweetchat.com/room/s... [lurking]
9:49 am UllaAino: RT @johnrackham #scriptchat Some actors I know don't have a deep understanding of anything much.
10:10 am PennGates: Looking forward to #ScriptChat later today. Last Sunday was excellent!
10:19 am UncompletedWork: @jeannevb no worries. Sorry I'll miss #scriptchat today.
10:26 am jeannevb: @UncompletedWork we had our first EURO #scriptchat today. Very exciting! So wonderful to see the globe talking screenwriting : ) Drive safe
10:35 am jeannevb: off for a run... don't forget #scriptchat TONIGHT 8pm EST (5pm PST)
6:59 pm jeannevb: ok, I should warn u all, I may be slower to respond tonight. My internet is not working well. But here we go.... #scriptchat
7:00 pm jeannevb: #scriptchat TOPIC: Char Dev: How do u create ur chars? Do u backstory before outline/beat sheet or create char dev as u go? #scriptchat
7:00 pm mariblaser: @PennyAsh y dog is *still* engaged in calling my attention. As if I ignored her all the time! *snort*, lol. #scriptchat
7:00 pm brozogirl: @PennyAsh I'm a rum girl myself. #scriptchat Now, I have a character that would drink it straight from the bottle. I like it disguised ...
7:00 pm zacsanford2: @mariblaser Well hopefully we'll be able to send you away with some insights into the world of screenwriting. Welcome. #scriptchat
7:00 pm SissiePoohSOD: I'm here to learn, 2. :) #scriptchat
7:01 pm zacsanford2: @jeannevb You need to let that dog out more often! Sounds like my roommates dogs that piss and shit all the time in the apt. #scriptchat
7:01 pm jolenejahnke: @zacsanford2 So far it's just you and a bunch of women. Complaints? #scriptchat
7:01 pm PennyAsh: @jeannevb If ever there was an oh shit moment... #scriptchat
7:01 pm mariblaser: @Donna_Carrick Hi Donna! Glad to see you here too. :) #scriptchat
7:01 pm zacsanford2: RT @jeannevb: #scriptchat TOPIC: Char Dev: How do u create ur chars? Do u backstory before outline/beat sheet or create as u go? #scriptchat
7:01 pm PennGates: @jeannevb I dev characters & their backgrounds first, then go on to dev storyline. #ScriptChat
7:01 pm yeah_write: RT @jeannevb:TOPIC: Char Dev: How do u create ur chars? Do u backstory before outline/beat sheet or create char dev as u go? #scriptchat
7:01 pm dawnbierschwal: @Donna_Carrick Welcome! #scriptchat
7:01 pm jeannevb: @jolenejahnke @zacsanford2 LOVES the odds at #scriptchat
7:01 pm SissiePoohSOD: I have a bad habit of giving my chars a rather detailed backstory. #scriptchat
7:02 pm jeannevb: @PennyAsh my life is full of em haha #scriptchat
7:02 pm zacsanford2: Women scare me. :) RT @jolenejahnke: @zacsanford2 So far its just you and a bunch of women. Complaints? #scriptchat
7:02 pm mariblaser: @zacsanford2 Thanks! You're too kind. I'm sure I'll learn a lot. Maybe some day I'll be able to share info too. :) #scriptchat
7:02 pm russellnichols: Re: Char Dev. I'm not the type to fill notebooks with each character's life story but I do create three sentence bios. #scriptchat
7:02 pm PennyAsh: @mariblaser LOL you'd think we never fed fat Fred either #scriptchat
7:02 pm jeannevb: I backstory all my chars. Get deep. Find wounds so I know how to evolve them. Do it all before outlining #scriptchat
7:02 pm yeah_write: I know my premise for my story, then I brainstorm the characters. #scriptchat
7:02 pm mariblaser: RT @jeannevb: #scriptchat TOPIC: Char Dev: How do u create ur chars? Do u backstory before outline/beat sheet or create as u go? #scriptchat
7:02 pm zacsanford2: This is like my own special harem. Now onto the topic at hand... character development. #scriptchat
7:02 pm SissiePoohSOD: and I'll also do the char backstory @ the same time I do my outline. #scriptchat
7:02 pm jeannevb: I so hope to see a lot of #writechat ppl chiming in so we can all learn from each other... bring ur cocktails! #scriptchat
7:03 pm russellnichols: RT @jeannevb: TOPIC: Char Dev: How do u create ur chars? Do u backstory before outline/beat sheet or create char dev as u go? #scriptchat
7:03 pm PennyAsh: @brozogirl Rum & coke for me or hot buttered rum #scriptchat
7:03 pm JustinWHedges: I develop characters first: backstory, characteristics, habits, etc. I spend more time on char development than anything else. #scriptchat
7:03 pm dawnbierschwal: I find it's an iterative process... sometimes characters need to adjust as storyline develops and vica versa. #scriptchat
7:03 pm RandomOenophile: ::sneaks in:: Curious about characterization chat. Hubby's doing dishes, so I can hang out a bit. #scriptchat
7:03 pm zacsanford2: I start with an idea and then create the characters that I think would live within the story in my head. #scriptchat
7:03 pm PennyAsh: @jeannevb LOL mine too #scriptchat
7:03 pm RandomOenophile: @jeannevb Will red wine do? #scriptchat
7:03 pm mariblaser: @PennyAsh LOL! #scriptchat
7:03 pm jeannevb: @SissiePoohSOD i learn so much about my chars from backstory #scriptchat
7:03 pm ruinedXfinery: RT @jeannevb: . bring ur cocktails! #scriptchat /////////// well ...........i got the tail............. /////////////
7:03 pm yeah_write: @RandomOenophile Hey, welcome. #scriptchat
7:03 pm PennGates: @SissiePoohSOD That sounds like a good habit to me. Makes for richer, well-developed characters. #ScriptChat
7:03 pm zacsanford2: Once I have the idea and a basic concept of characters, I create detailed backstories for each of the main characters. #scriptchat
7:03 pm JustinWHedges: Sorry @zacsanford2, there's another man in the mix here. #scriptchat
7:03 pm paidtobenice: hey fellas- #wherethaladees@ someone said here are too many women on #scriptchat right now
7:04 pm yeah_write: RT @zacsanford2: I start with an idea and then create the characters that I think would live within the story in my head. #scriptchat
7:04 pm jeannevb: @RandomOenophile i would expect nothing else from u : ) #scriptchat
7:04 pm rachlanger: @zacsanford2 That's generally my process as well. Once I know what I need from them, I bring them to life. #scriptchat
7:04 pm jeannevb: how so? RT @amiestuart: @jeannevb For me depends on what genre I'm working on. #scriptchat
7:04 pm mariblaser: @jeannevb Red wine coming from #writechat. ;-) #scriptchat
7:04 pm CDominiqueG: hello #scriptchat !
7:05 pm screamtweets: (almost forgot) RT @zacsanford: attention writers, #scriptchat starts in 15 minutes. Join us by following the hash at 5 p.m. PST.
7:05 pm zacsanford2: So for me it goes 1. Idea 2. Characters 3. Beat sheet/Outline 4. rewrite all the previous three 5. script. #scriptchat
7:05 pm russellnichols: I also start with the idea, then find the character that would best serve that idea and build out from there. #scriptchat
7:05 pm jeannevb: @JustinWHedges excellent... @zacsanford2 will share #scriptchat
7:05 pm yeah_write: So those outliners, do you follow a template, or just write it out? #scriptchat
7:05 pm PennyAsh: My characters pop into my head pretty much fully formed and PO'd their story hasn't been written yet #ScriptChat
7:05 pm RandomOenophile: @yeah_write Thank you! Will likely lurk since I don't do scripts, but have had an idea for a Doctor Who episode for a long time. #scriptchat
7:05 pm TamaraNKitties: Joining due to #writechat invite: I find that I have to write a bit before I can define who my characters are. #scriptchat
7:05 pm scriptcollector: I give every major character an internal conflict from his past that opposes plot goals and slowly gets revealed along the way. #scriptchat
7:05 pm RandomOenophile: @jeannevb LOL You missed it earlier, I had a lovely Peppermint Schnapps hot chocoalte. #scriptchat
7:05 pm zacsanford2: Sometimes when I have an idea & know the ending, once I create my characters the ending will often change. #scriptchat
7:05 pm jeannevb: @CDominiqueG howdy... we're talking char dev. Do u do backstory, etc? #scriptchat
7:06 pm mariblaser: For me, it's perfect. :) RT @RandomOenophile: @jeannevb Will red wine do? #scriptchat
7:06 pm SissiePoohSOD: @PennGates: absolutely. I find that my characters are more three-dimensional and interesting when I give them a good backstory. #scriptchat
7:06 pm brozogirl: #scriptchat Both. I let it flow to start, but go back and have outline of characters. Sometimes outline before I write it out.
7:06 pm jolenejahnke: @zacsanford2 Really? You don't start script until rewriting outline? #scriptchat
7:06 pm yeah_write: @RandomOenophile Everything here also works for novels. I use for both #scriptchat
7:06 pm RandomOenophile: Ohyeah, topic at hand (not alcohol, oddly): I get an idea, write a bit, then do character sketches. Have some great templates. #scriptchat
7:06 pm Jennlarson: @beingbrad Thanks for the heads up! #scriptchat
7:06 pm jeannevb: @yeah_write i do have a sort of beat sheet I use from Michael Hauge.... helps me w turning pts & his style is all about char dev #scriptchat
7:07 pm RandomOenophile: Chocolate, darnit. RT @RandomOenophile: @jeannevb LOL You missed it earlier, I had a lovely Peppermint Schnapps hot chocoalte. #scriptchat
7:07 pm yeah_write: @zacsanford2 You're scaring me Zac, I could RT everything you've posted as mine. #scriptchat
7:07 pm jeannevb: attn #writechat ppl RT @yeah_write: @RandomOenophile Everything here also works for novels. I use for both #scriptchat
7:07 pm PennyAsh: I rarely outline, if I do it's after the story has started #ScriptChat
7:07 pm SissiePoohSOD: sometimes, I'll work on the story and figure out which characters would fit into the story. #scriptchat
7:07 pm TamaraNKitties: I can give all kinds of description, etc., but then they have their own ideas about who they are :) #scriptchat
7:07 pm dawnbierschwal: I also take into account theme when developing my characters, their backstories and their flaws. #scriptchat
7:07 pm RandomOenophile: Excellent! *pours a glass* RT @mariblaser: For me, its perfect. :) RT @RandomOenophile: @jeannevb Will red wine do? #scriptchat
7:07 pm yeah_write: @RandomOenophile I've never found a template I like. If I did, I'd try one #scriptchat
7:07 pm jeannevb: RT @zacsanford2: Sometimes when I have an idea & know the ending, once I create my characters the ending will often change. #scriptchat
7:07 pm PennGates: @SissiePoohSOD Agree! Something can change later in a backstory, but that can be done. #ScriptChat
7:07 pm zacsanford2: @jolenejahnke I'm anal with my outline to the point where I'll rewrite it so many times that I can type out a script in days. #scriptchat
7:08 pm russellnichols: Before I start writing, I need to know both the goal and primary obstacle of the protagonist. #scriptchat
7:08 pm jeannevb: @yeah_write @zacsanford2, me too! Totally in alignment w ur styles #scriptchat
7:08 pm RandomOenophile: @jeannevb Okay, for us non(de)script ppl: what is a beat sheet, pls? #scriptchat
7:08 pm shabanky: Hello everyone=) I get a lot of my characters from the crazy, strange, beautiful, depressing people I know and meet #scriptchat
7:08 pm jeannevb: theme so imp! RT @dawnbierschwal: I also take into account theme when developing my characters, their backstories & their flaws. #scriptchat
7:08 pm zacsanford2: @yeah_write Great minds think alike. Well, then again I don't care for A&W :) #scriptchat
7:08 pm SissiePoohSOD: after I've done that, the characters backstories come pretty easily. #scriptchat
7:08 pm brozogirl: #scriptchat I HAVE to outline first on paper. My scribblings help me to organize those char before the computer outline.
7:08 pm dawnbierschwal: Dara Marks' Inside Story was really helpful to me in thinking about character development as it relates to theme. #scriptchat
7:08 pm zacsanford2: RT @russellnichols: Before I start writing, I need to know both the goal and primary obstacle of the protagonist. #scriptchat
7:08 pm jeannevb: @RandomOenophile it's like when u map out turning pts in plot & char development. Some say its formulaic but others love it #scriptchat
7:09 pm mariblaser: Ooh, nice! I think I'll do this literally, in honor to you. ;-) RT @RandomOenophile: Excellent! *pours a glass* #scriptchat
7:09 pm SissiePoohSOD: @shabanky: that's where my characters come from, also. :) #scriptchat
7:09 pm russellnichols: But the idea comes before anything. Once I know the beginning and the ending, the characters appear. #scriptchat
7:09 pm yeah_write: @RandomOenophile Beat sheets are great for outlining a novel. I'll send you a copy of one I use. #scriptchat
7:09 pm RandomOenophile: Have a couple online freebies and one from a scifi book. RT @yeah_write: Ive never found a template I like. If I did, Id try one #scriptchat
7:09 pm RandomOenophile: @jeannevb Ahh, okay. I've done that for noveling. #scriptchat
7:10 pm zacsanford2: @shabanky People always wonder where the crazy moments in my scripts come from. I tell them "friends" and they never believe me. #scriptchat
7:10 pm TamaraNKitties: I'm an odd duck, but as a fiction writer, I sometimes write in script format to investigate my characters more deeply. #scriptchat
7:10 pm maggiedana: <-- holding out glass. RT @mariblaser: Ooh, nice! I think Ill do this literally, in honor to you. ;-) #scriptchat
7:10 pm tylerweaver: I develop them just enough so they "talk", and then let them do their thing. All about listening - even to fictional peeps . #scriptchat
7:10 pm RandomOenophile: @yeah_write Would love it! Thx! #scriptchat
7:10 pm yeah_write: @zacsanford2 I don't like the root beer either, but the food is good if you eat meat. #scriptchat
7:10 pm zacsanford: @screamtweets Come along and join us for the chat. #scriptchat
7:10 pm zacsanford2: And great for movies too! RT @yeah_write: @RandomOenophile Beat sheets are great for outlining a novel. #scriptchat
7:10 pm RandomOenophile: @mariblaser Excellent! Not that I want to be a bad influence or anything... ;-) #scriptchat
7:10 pm jeannevb: The best Screenwriting DVDs I watched re: char dev is Michael Hauge & Chris Volger Hero's Two Journies. Fantastic explanation #scriptchat
7:10 pm CDominiqueG: RT @jeannevb: we're talking char dev. Do u do backstory, etc? #scriptchat// Nope this is my first time, Im converting my novel to screenplay
7:10 pm JustinWHedges: Outlining keeps me on track with the story I wanted to tell. W/out it, I'm too easily sidetracked on tangents. #scriptchat
7:10 pm mariblaser: *pouring* :D RT @maggiedana: <-- holding out glass.RT @mariblaser: Ooh, nice! I think Ill do this literally, in honor to you. ;-)#scriptchat
7:11 pm PennyAsh: @karenquah Yep blank page and an idea for a plot #scriptchat
7:11 pm zacsanford2: @yeah_write See, that's where we differ. I like the root beer but hate the food. #scriptchat
7:11 pm jeannevb: i use the backstory a lot in the beginning but am flexible about it as I go along if I need more conflict #scriptchat
7:11 pm RandomOenophile: @maggiedana *pours some for you as well* May have to open another bottle soon... #scriptchat
7:11 pm russellnichols: @zacsanford2 When you say crazy moments, do you mean set pieces? That's what I struggle with the most. #scriptchat
7:11 pm zacsanford2: Don't be confused by the two @zacsanford's in the chat. This is just my back up. :) #scriptchat
7:11 pm acebomber: RT @JustinWHedges I spend more time on char development than anything else. [Char depth is the key to every great script]#scriptchat
7:11 pm SissiePoohSOD: @TamaraNKitties: I've done that on several occasions. oddly enough, it helps me w/char development. #scriptchat
7:11 pm maggiedana: @mariblaser Thanks. I needed that. #scriptchat
7:11 pm jeannevb: #scriptchat TOPIC: Char Dev: How do u create ur chars? Do u backstory before outline/beat sheet or create char dev as u go? #scriptchat
7:11 pm yeah_write: @jeannevb I haven't watched the DVD yet. #scriptchat
7:12 pm mariblaser: @RandomOenophile Ah, then don't worry about that. I've been a wine lover for years now, heh. #scriptchat
7:12 pm zacsanford2: @CDominiqueG Good luck on adapting your novel to script. #scriptchat
7:12 pm jeannevb: @karenquah ugh.... u can also use web but then have to put in hashtag each time #scriptchat
7:12 pm RandomOenophile: @zacsanford2 Ummm, I don't know if it's all I've had to drink today, but am I seeing double with you and @zacsanford? #scriptchat
7:12 pm yeah_write: @zacsanford2 After 14 years, I don't eat much of it anymore. But I do get great plot ideas from the happenings. #scriptchat
7:12 pm PennyAsh: @jeannevb Just started reading Screenplay, already understanding 3 Act better #scriptchat
7:13 pm brozogirl: @PennyAsh I never did outline. Now helps me as I go. Afterwards makes me crazy. If I could just have a camera inside my head #scriptchat
7:13 pm TamaraNKitties: @SissiePoohSOD Maybe because it gets them talking? I tend to write in 3rd person, so hearing them talk helps. Whaddya think? #scriptchat
7:13 pm SissiePoohSOD: @JustinWHedges: sticking to the outline is like my "map" through the story I'm writing. helps me stick to theme and mood. #scriptchat
7:13 pm mariblaser: My pleasure. :-D RT @maggiedana: @mariblaser Thanks. I needed that. #scriptchat
7:13 pm jeannevb: @yeah_write its a fantastic approach... u get 2 diff't opinions, Michael's and Chris' Very interesting #scriptchat
7:13 pm CDominiqueG: RT @zacsanford2: @CDominiqueG Good luck on adapting your novel to script. #scriptchat /// thanks its pretty difficult
7:13 pm zacsanford2: This is sort of on-topic/sort of off... but with your character development, what page do you try to have your needs/wants known #scriptchat
7:13 pm dawnbierschwal: I love when a character comes to life and almost writes their own story! #scriptchat
7:13 pm mariblaser: RT @jeannevb: attn #writechat ppl RT @yeah_write: @RandomOenophile Everything here also works for novels. I use for both #scriptchat
7:13 pm MonicaEmme: @jeannevb my characters seem to have their own personalities already when they come to me. #scriptchat
7:13 pm RandomOenophile: Am impressed you know the ending when u start. RT @russellnichols: But the idea comes before anything... #scriptchat
7:13 pm jeannevb: excellent! read, read, read RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb Just started reading Screenplay, already understanding 3 Act better #scriptchat
7:13 pm jeffige: I dont outline - but as soon as I know what story I want to write - I know everything about my char's #scriptchat
7:13 pm JustinWHedges: Syd Field? RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb Just started reading Screenplay, already understanding 3 Act better #scriptchat
7:13 pm scriptcollector: Also, I give each character enough backstory so that he/she has an interesting life going on before the plot kicks in. #scriptchat
7:14 pm zacsanford2: You should also read Stroy & Save the Cat RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb Just started reading Screenplay. #scriptchat
7:14 pm jeannevb: @natashahollerup yep... i'm the moderator : ) #scriptchat
7:14 pm PennyAsh: @brozogirl I find an outline makes a good jumping off point but then it takes on a life of it's own #scriptchat
7:14 pm SissiePoohSOD: @TamaraNKitties: I like that. it definitely helps me give my characters that spark of life. #scriptchat
7:14 pm mariblaser: This is fun! RT @zacsanford2: Sometimes when I have an idea & know the ending, once I create my characters the ending change[s]. #scriptchat
7:14 pm zacsanford2: Wow, I can't type today. #scriptchat
7:15 pm PennyAsh: @zacsanford2 I plan to, have to wait for the next royalty check to order those #scriptchat
7:15 pm jeannevb: outer motivation or inner? RT @zacsanford2: with your character development, what page do you try 2 have your needs/wants known? #scriptchat
7:15 pm dawnbierschwal: Me too! RT @PennyAsh: @brozogirl I find an outline makes a good jumping off point but then it takes on a life of its own #scriptchat
7:15 pm yeah_write: Save the Cat is great and now my "bible" STORY is really hard to get through #scriptchat
7:15 pm russellnichols: @PennyAsh I agree. Save the Cat is really useful for cracking the structure code. #scriptchat
7:15 pm SissiePoohSOD: it also helps me get inside my character's heads to see how they think. #scriptchat
7:15 pm PennGates: @PennyAsh Is that Screenplay by Syd Field? I have that book, very good guide IMHO. #ScriptChat
7:15 pm jeffige: @JustinWHedges @PennyAsh: @jeannevb already understanding 3 Act better. But don't let it run your story. #scriptchat
7:15 pm yeah_write: this is crazy, but part of development. I struggle with names. #scriptchat
7:16 pm PennyAsh: @dawnbierschwal After I get started the outline becomes more of a list of writing prompts #scriptchat
7:16 pm zacsanford2: Either of them. RT @jeannevb: outer motivation or inner? RT @zacsanford2: What page do you try 2 have your needs/wants known? #scriptchat
7:16 pm yeah_write: I can't write a characterization without a name. #scriptchat
7:16 pm TamaraNKitties: I think character IS story so as I investigate story, I flesh out the characters. Who they r, what they want, determines story. #scriptchat
7:16 pm kiantakey: @russellnichols do you ever think about the title of the film/story before you write? #scriptchat
7:16 pm JustinWHedges: @PennyAsh: @brozogirl I agree, you can't stay 2 married to the outline, allows 4 weird moments of brilliance whenever they come #scriptchat
7:17 pm PennyAsh: @russellnichols I;m definitely getting Save The Cat next #scriptchat
7:17 pm brozogirl: @PennyAsh #scriptchat Yes. Outline is just so structure. I love it when it flows. I just don't like to go back. Trying to follow patterns.
7:17 pm JoannaDangelo: Hey gang: What's the topic for tonight? #scriptchat
7:17 pm mariblaser: Send to me too? RT @yeah_write: @RandomOenophile Beat sheets are great for outlining a novel. I'll send you a copy of one I use. #scriptchat
7:17 pm PennyAsh: @davidwcooper Heard of that one, I'll check it out #scriptchat
7:17 pm MonicaEmme: what do you consider character development? #scriptchat
7:17 pm jeffige: @mariblaser @zacsanford2 I always know the ending before I write a word. If the ending sux - the audience won't remember nuttin #scriptchat
7:17 pm jeannevb: @PennGates great book! Also, Robert McKee's book Story (bit of a prick) Went to his 3-day lecture w @dawnbierschwal (@PennyAsh) #scriptchat
7:17 pm PennyAsh: @PennGates Yep that's the book #ScriptChat
7:17 pm SissiePoohSOD: @JustinWHedges: this is what I'm learning. the outline is ok, but when I hit a detour, it often makes the story better. #scriptchat
7:18 pm zacsanford2: When you name your characters, please try to make the names completely different unless it is a family character trait! #scriptchat
7:18 pm russellnichols: @kiantakey i always have my title first. sometimes a good title helps me figure out the idea. #scriptchat
7:18 pm PennyAsh: @jeffige Nope, story always comes first, then structure #scriptchat
7:18 pm TamaraNKitties: @yeah_write I have a lot of manuscripts with ______ for the name. I tend to wake in the early am with the right name eventually. #scriptchat
7:18 pm PennGates: RT @PennyAsh: @russellnichols I;m definitely getting Save The Cat next /// Me too. Looked it up on Amazon, looks very useful. #ScriptChat
7:18 pm yeah_write: TONIGHT'S TOPIC is Character Development #scriptchat
7:18 pm JustinWHedges: I created my outline & character development based on Syd Field's The Screenplay Workbook. It's a nice complement to Screenplay. #scriptchat
7:18 pm HoodedMan: I find writing novels and screenplays remarkably similar. There are differences, of course, but not many #scriptchat
7:19 pm mariblaser: @jeffige @zacsanford2 True! #scriptchat
7:19 pm rachlanger: Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With A Thousand Faces" is a great read for char development as well. #scriptchat
7:19 pm zacsanford2: I have many titles w/o ideas. RT @russellnichols: @kiantakey i always have my title first. #scriptchat
7:19 pm SissiePoohSOD: @zacsanford2: I always make my character names different. saves the reader from being confused. #scriptchat
7:19 pm PennyAsh: @JustinWHedges I have no trouble chucking an outline if the story evolves #scriptchat
7:19 pm brozogirl: @karenquah Chica! Where is the strawberries and champagne? What is the drink of choice?#scriptchat
7:19 pm yeah_write: @TamaraNKitties I can't relate to them until I have a name, then I put the pieces together. Weird I know. #scriptchat
7:19 pm jeannevb: RT @zacsanford2: When u name your characters, please try 2 make names completely different unless it's a family character trait! #scriptchat
7:19 pm PennGates: @jeffige Story always comes first for me too. Once the story starts to dev, the characters start appearing. #ScriptChat
7:20 pm yeah_write: @JustinWHedges The workbook is excellent. Mine is so thumbed through #scriptchat
7:20 pm PennyAsh: @brozogirl I pretty much know where I want to start and where I want to end, the rest is fluid #scriptchat
7:20 pm TamaraNKitties: @yeah_write Not weird :) The name is important. #scriptchat
7:20 pm JoannaDangelo: My all time fave character names r from Usual Suspects. The names are so key to the movie. #scriptchat
7:20 pm shabanky: I bought a WAY overpriced book called The Screenplay Workbook and it actually helps me outline and organize #scriptchat
7:20 pm russellnichols: @RandomOenophile i have to know where i'm going, but figuring out how to get there is the hard part. #scriptchat
7:20 pm jeffige: @zacsanford2 @russellnichols: @kiantakey Title is everything.... before the movie! #scriptchat
7:20 pm PennyAsh: @jeannevb I can see my library expanding :) #scriptchat
7:20 pm jeannevb: @karenquah buttercrud I'm not seeing u in the feed.... I'll keep looking.. I'm on tweetchat... #scriptchat
7:21 pm mariblaser: Rofl! RT @RandomOenophile: @zacsanford am I seeing double with you and @zacsanford? #scriptchat
7:21 pm jeannevb: @PennyAsh excellent... we like big libraries : ) #scriptchat
7:21 pm yeah_write: You mean, John, Julie, Jeffrey, and Jacob? Well, I guess I have some changes to make. I'm kidding. #scriptchat
7:21 pm JustinWHedges: Heard James Dellasandro speak @ Screenwriters Expo. He said start with a good premise, then create great characters. #scriptchat
7:21 pm zacsanford2: It does not. RT @AnnetteFix: Does anyone know if Save the Cat has a structure section specific to TV? #scriptchat
7:21 pm SissiePoohSOD: @JoannaDangelo: aren't they? that's what made the movie so good. all those cool character names. #scriptchat
7:21 pm ninehourfilms: @zacsanford2 I usually find the title is the hardest part for me, but once I have it, EVERYTHING clicks. #scriptchat
7:21 pm HoodedMan: But since plays only shows what is seen we need to get into the characters' head differently, indirectly #scriptchat
7:21 pm jeffige: Don't get me wrong - I still try and stay close to the 3 acts structure - cause I want to sell - thats what everyone knows #scriptchat
7:21 pm PennyAsh: @dawnbierschwal @karenquah I was trying phase outlining for #nano, lasted a whole 2 days before the story took off #scriptchat
7:21 pm jeannevb: This may be 2 out-of-the-box for some, but i find having gone to therapy for years, VERY helpful in understanding char wounds #scriptchat
7:22 pm yeah_write: @JoannaDangelo My Fave movie period. #scriptchat
7:22 pm russellnichols: @AHnomaly you can start writing from there? #scriptchat
7:22 pm PennyAsh: @jeannevb LOL me too but I have a tiny house #scriptchat
7:22 pm TamaraNKitties: @jeannevb I think therapy is an amazing gift to creative types ;-) #scriptchat
7:22 pm brozogirl: @PennyAsh @JustinWHedges @karenquah #scriptchat They don't have to be so daunting. I would not be able to explain it out if I didn't.
7:22 pm JustinWHedges: Names are as important to character as backstory. Holden Caufield, Forrest Gump, etc. Forgive spelling if I'm off. #scriptchat
7:22 pm jeannevb: @karenquah which browser? Maybe try another. I"m on Safari #scriptchat
7:22 pm jeffige: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Ahem... sorry. #scriptchat
7:22 pm PennyAsh: @ninehourfilms Interesting, title usually comes last for me #scriptchat
7:23 pm ninehourfilms: @yeah_write I made the mistake once of having a Scott & a Scotty (m & f) in a short story. Dumb idea, but then, I was 13. #scriptchat
7:23 pm SissiePoohSOD: yes, it is. :) #scriptchat
7:23 pm dawnbierschwal: I find being able to articulate clear log line at beginning more important than title. That helps focus the writing for me. #scriptchat
7:23 pm JustinWHedges: RT @jeannevb: ...but i find having gone to therapy for years, VERY helpful in understanding char wounds - worked for me too #scriptchat
7:23 pm JoannaDangelo: @SissiePoohSOD I know - I like to watch that movie at least once a year - such a gem! #scriptchat
7:23 pm brozogirl: @PennyAsh Cool #scriptchat I agree.
7:23 pm russellnichols: Things I need before I start writing: Concept, Main Character, Villain, Title, Theme, Beginning, Ending. #scriptchat
7:23 pm jeannevb: i love how quickly you are all distracted from topic. 23 min in and we're onto titles 3-act structure haha #scriptchat
7:23 pm JoannaDangelo: @yeah_write certainly in my top 10! #scriptchat
7:23 pm CDominiqueG: @zacsanford2 I agree ... what is a title with nothing to relate it to #scriptchat
7:23 pm tylerweaver: @karenquah I see you! #scriptchat
7:23 pm RandomOenophile: @jeannevb I think that's great! I finding having done therapy for years helps, too. ;-) #scriptchat
7:24 pm yeah_write: Me too. RT @PennyAsh: @ninehourfilms Interesting, title usually comes last for me #scriptchat
7:24 pm zacsanford2: @AnnetteFix I would say read as many pilot TV scripts you can to see the diff breakdowns for teasers, acts and tags. #scriptchat
7:24 pm jeffige: @jeannevb If I went to therapy... dude would have to write a book about it! #scriptchat
7:24 pm jeannevb: @JustinWHedges *SMOOCH* for admitting it : ) #scriptchat *ROLOs*
7:24 pm dawnbierschwal: Interesting experience doing adapation and having to change characters to meet needs of a film. #scriptchat
7:24 pm ninehourfilms: @TamaraNKitties I've been working with an actress that is a theatre/psych double major. I think it makes her much better. #scriptchat
7:24 pm SissiePoohSOD: it's a challenge 4 me to have a title that doesn't sound so lame. nothing worse than a lame-sounding title. #scriptchat
7:24 pm Donna_Carrick: RT @JustinWHedges: Names are as important to character as backstory. #scriptchat Yes, names very important.
7:24 pm PennyAsh: @jeannevb I can see where therapy would help in understanding characters #scriptchat
7:24 pm brozogirl: @karenquah Throat better with tea and a nip. Glad you took a break #NaNo #scriptchat is much more fun "~~"
7:25 pm ninehourfilms: @jeannevb Hey, I was late so I don't even know what the topic is! #scriptchat
7:25 pm acebomber: I write a couple pages of dialogue in the process of developing characters. It helps me pinpoint the 'voice' of the character #scriptchat
7:25 pm MonicaEmme: @CDominiqueG I agree too. I have a complete novel and 2/3rds of a sequel written and still can't come up with a title #scriptchat
7:25 pm jeffige: @JustinWHedges RT Names are as important to character as backstory. Holden Caufield, Forrest Gump, etc. #scriptchat
7:25 pm zacsanford: @mariblaser @randomoenophile Do not adjust your computer monitors, everything is working perfectly. :) #scriptchat
7:25 pm zacsanford2: @mariblaser @randomoenophile Do not adjust your computer monitors, everything is working perfectly. :) #scriptchat
7:25 pm PennyAsh: @jeffige I like 3 Act but inside each act is where it gets fun to write #scriptchat
7:25 pm TamaraNKitties: @dawnbierschwal What exactly does that involve? RE 'changing characters to meet needs of film' #scriptchat
7:25 pm yeah_write: I need therapy, but I have horses instead. Not so good for char dev, but good for soul. #scriptchat
7:25 pm jeannevb: @TamaraNKitties i'd die without therapy. I get some of my best writing ideas there #dysfunction #scriptchat
7:25 pm JoannaDangelo: @SissiePoohSOD titles! soooo important. but hard not to get caught up in coming up with perfect title that you can't write ;D #scriptchat
7:26 pm zacsanford2: Whoa... major accident just happened in front of my apartment. #scriptchat
7:26 pm jeffige: @ninehourfilms Char develop. & therapy. #scriptchat
7:26 pm Alex_Carrick: #scriptchat Names important. Does it also help to visualize actor a known actor role.
7:26 pm mariblaser: @rachlanger I'm reading Campbell now. He's a great source for many things! #scriptchat
7:26 pm PennyAsh: @brozogirl I'm trying to find a happy medium between outlining and no outline #scriptchat
7:26 pm davidspies: I always start w/protagonist - outline hardship & how my character will survive/overcome hardship, incorporating unique traits. #scriptchat
7:26 pm mariblaser: @zacsanford You're confusing me, lol. #scriptchat
7:26 pm zacsanford2: I need therapy too, but instead I work out my issues through stories. Probably not the best prescription. #scriptchat
7:27 pm SissiePoohSOD: so, having a good title which will attract the viewer or reader is so important. #scriptchat
7:27 pm russellnichols: @kiantakey by concept, i mean the main idea of the story, which also tells me what genre it is. #scriptchat
7:27 pm RandomOenophile: @zacsanford2 @zacsanford Now you/y'all are just trying to confuse me! #scriptchat
7:27 pm PennyAsh: @amiestuart I've got it in my cart at amazon, just waiting for royalties :) #scriptchat
7:27 pm ravenpearlink: RT @Alex_Carrick #scriptchat Names important. Does it also help to visualize actor a known actor role./interesting question!
7:27 pm TamaraNKitties: @jeannevb I'd die without therapy, too, but not because of lack of ideas! ;-) #scriptchat
7:27 pm yeah_write: I get my best writing ideas from our restaurant's customers. I particularly like murder mysteries. lol #scriptchat
7:27 pm PennyAsh: @yeah_write I tend to pick a phrase from the text #scriptchat
7:27 pm jeffige: @PennyAsh I believe you have to stay atteached to 3 act struc. Untill you can do what you want. Unless you make your own. #scriptchat
7:28 pm brozogirl: #scriptchat Character Development would never happen if we didn't study people. Pieces pulled apart make a whole pulsating being ...
7:28 pm CDominiqueG: @MonicaEmme I have my titlesthey come from a specific element in the novel i #scriptchat The Gatherer of Stars- 1 charc makes constellations
7:28 pm SissiePoohSOD: @Alex_Carrick: I'll often visualize a specific actor as a particular character. it helps me a lot. #scriptchat
7:28 pm MonicaEmme: @TamaraNKitties I think writing is therapy. #scriptchat
7:28 pm dawnbierschwal: @TamaraNKitties Depends. Example was choice to change one character to provide vehicle to SHOW protagonist's internal struggle. #scriptchat
7:28 pm zacsanford2: Hey everyone, if you want to follow me, make sure you add @zacsanford instead of this as this acct is my backup/chat account. #scriptchat
7:28 pm davidspies: RT Agreed! @jeffige: @JustinWHedges RT Names are as important to character as backstory. Holden Caulfield, Forrest Gump, etc. #scriptchat
7:28 pm RandomOenophile: @yeah_write LOL #scriptchat
7:28 pm jeannevb: Internet frozen... So sorry...trying to get back #scriptchat
7:28 pm zacsanford2: When you create your character profiles, how detailed do you usually get? #scriptchat
7:28 pm jeffige: @Alex_Carrick NO! Unless you are proven and you are writing for specif Actor. #scriptchat
7:29 pm yeah_write: It would be great to have an actor's POV on this subject. #scriptchat
7:29 pm CDominiqueG: RT @zacsanford2: I need therapy too, work out my issues through stories. Probably not the best prescription. #scriptchat// maybe not
7:29 pm zacsanford: @jeannevb I'll take part of the blame for things going off topic, trying to head it back into the right direction. #scriptchat
7:29 pm jeannevb: @ninehourfilms character dev. Do u backstory? Build dev into plot pts? etc... we're a bit off topic #scriptchat
7:29 pm MonicaEmme: @CDominiqueG I usually have a title. My latest WIP started with the title. But I just can't seem to make one fit for the other #scriptchat
7:29 pm jeannevb: back... now I REALLY need a drink #scriptchat
7:29 pm mariblaser: @jeannevb Same here! Afterwards it's easier to understand people's motivations. #scriptchat
7:30 pm ravenpearlink: @idaremyidea if you search under #scriptchat - you'll see the live chat that is happening right now. Interesting & smart ppl on there.
7:30 pm RandomOenophile: I agree. I certainly get grumpy if I don't. RT @MonicaEmme: @TamaraNKitties I think writing is therapy. #scriptchat
7:30 pm yeah_write: @zacsanford2 I'm taking a chance and chatting as me tonight. See how many followers I lose. #scriptchat
7:30 pm PennyAsh: @jeffige I agree, learn the rules then bend or break them #scriptchat
7:30 pm jeannevb: I have a friend who is a therapist. Sometimes I bounce char wounds off her too #scriptchat
7:31 pm jeffige: All my Chars have huge backstory, because they all have been abused in some way. But I never write it out. They may reveal more #scriptchat
7:31 pm screamtweets: I do a general outline, add/subtract along the way. Spend a lot of time trying to find the right voice for my characters. #scriptchat
7:31 pm zacsanford2: @yeah_write I might do that next time. #scriptchat
7:31 pm jeannevb: U can join us by searching hashtag on Twitter or going to http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat #scriptchat
7:31 pm russellnichols: @SissiePoohSOD yes. i visualize actors playing characters too. Tarantino did that with Samuel L. Jackson for Pulp Fiction. #scriptchat
7:31 pm RandomOenophile: She probably has shelves of great ref material. RT @jeannevb: I have a friend who is a therapist... #scriptchat
7:31 pm ninehourfilms: @jeannevb I backstory some, but not as much as my writing profs would like. #scriptchat
7:31 pm JustinWHedges: @SissiePoohSOD I 'cast' the script 2. Once saw in a horror contest I helped judge: the writer incl the casting list. not good. #scriptchat
7:31 pm yeah_write: I do a sketchy outline of char, then I start to write, I learn about char as I write the screenplay #scriptchat
7:31 pm TamaraNKitties: @dawnbierschwal Cool! There is that need to SHOW even more in film/script than in written work. Is the dialogue you use to show? #scriptchat
7:32 pm PennyAsh: @zacsanford2 I don't create a profile, I just describe in the story, I know them too well #scriptchat
7:32 pm brozogirl: @PennyAsh That a way! I do mediums on every level. I like trying different and still stay the same. I respect I am not rigid.LOL #scriptchat
7:32 pm SissiePoohSOD: my characters ren't exactly "abused", but all of them have gone through some type of trauma, though. #scriptchat
7:32 pm RandomOenophile: Depends on if MC or Sec Char. RT @zacsanford2: When you create your character profiles, how detailed do you usually get? #scriptchat
7:32 pm jeffige: I never outline. I write from the hip...Maybe this is why I only get a few hours of sleep at night. #scriptchat
7:32 pm jeannevb: @yeah_write @zacsanford2 I dont think I've lost followers bc of #scriptchat. They know u write. They support it #scriptchat
7:32 pm mariblaser: Horses are gr8 therapy ;)RT @yeah_write: I need therapy, but I have horses instead. Not so good for char dev, but good for soul. #scriptchat
7:32 pm ninehourfilms: @russellnichols That was how I finally broke a char problem I had on my feature script. Best advice I got in film school. #scriptchat
7:32 pm yeah_write: Since EMOTION is the key, you have to give your characters flaws and gut wrenching pasts. Well not all of them. #scriptchat
7:32 pm SissiePoohSOD: @russellnichols: I find that when I visualize a specific actor as a character, I'm able to dig into that charcter a lot more. #scriptchat
7:32 pm jeannevb: @ninehourfilms honestly, backstory & char dev is my FAVORITE part of writing #scriptchat
7:32 pm CDominiqueG: @MonicaEmme then sounds like you need to worry about title later #scriptchat
7:33 pm Alex_Carrick: #scriptchat Even if you have no prospect of selling script, might help flesh out character's dialogue to picture real person while writing.
7:33 pm TamaraNKitties: @RandomOenophile Yes, writing is a place to work things out. I always say I'll write until I stop breathing. #scriptchat
7:33 pm yeah_write: Ouch. lol RT @jeffige: I never outline. I write from the hip...Maybe this is why I only get a few hours of sleep at night. #scriptchat
7:33 pm JoannaDangelo: @tylerweaver screenwriters can't have huge egos - scripts can get taken away & given to other writers 4 re-writes #scriptchat
7:33 pm brozogirl: @karenquah I never see anything. I've been *posting blind* since the start of twitter. Tell me about your characters for #NaNo #scriptchat
7:33 pm ninehourfilms: @SissiePoohSOD A common theme in my work is my main chars losing parents at an early age. Which makes no sense if you know me. #scriptchat
7:34 pm mariblaser: @zacsanford2 IMO writing can be good therapy too. Been there. ;) #scriptchat
7:34 pm russellnichols: @SissiePoohSOD Indeed. And I also can hear the dialogue better. #scriptchat
7:34 pm yeah_write: They have kept me sane. I will have to be committed when my old guy dies, but... RT @mariblaser: Horses are gr8 therapy ;) #scriptchat
7:34 pm Alex_Carrick: #scriptchat Re all my chars, my 1st question is what are they wearing?
7:34 pm SissiePoohSOD: @jeannevb: backstory and char dev is so much fun. it's the best part of writing 4 me. #scriptchat
7:34 pm zacsanford2: Not mine! I like rewriting the most. RT @jeannevb: honestly, backstory & char dev is my FAVORITE part of writing #scriptchat
7:34 pm PennyAsh: @brozogirl Exactly, I try not to lock myself in, too detailed an outline of character and I lose interesy #scriptchat
7:34 pm ravenpearlink: I'm jumping in. I haven't created my characters 4 a specific actor b/ I do visualize if there r ppl who can play them. #scriptchat
7:34 pm dawnbierschwal: When writing w/partner, it seems to help to discuss who we visualize playing character to get on same page. #scriptchat
7:34 pm PennyAsh: @brozogirl Interest even #scriptchat
7:34 pm RandomOenophile: Agreed. RT @TamaraNKitties: Yes, writing is a place to work things out. I always say Ill write until I stop breathing. #scriptchat
7:34 pm rachlanger: @jeannevb Tech problems unite, computer just died mid-chat. Back online. #scriptchat
7:34 pm ninehourfilms: @jeannevb I backstory a lot more in my ficton writing than screenwriting, oddly. #scriptchat
7:34 pm zacsanford2: .@ninehourfilms makes a good point, how many people tend to have recurring character traits/themes in their stories? #scriptchat
7:35 pm jeannevb: @ninehourfilms Disney loses parents early to : ) @SissiePoohSOD #scriptchat
7:35 pm jeannevb: RT @dawnbierschwal: When writing w/partner, it seems to help to discuss who we visualize playing character to get on same page. #scriptchat
7:35 pm SissiePoohSOD: @ninehourfilms: I've noticed that a common theme in my writing is of a char overcoming great odds. #scriptchat
7:35 pm dawnbierschwal: And she's damn good at it! RT @jeannevb: honestly, backstory & char dev is my FAVORITE part of writing #scriptchat
7:35 pm ravenpearlink: RT @Alex_Carrick #scriptchat Re all my chars, my 1st question is what are they wearing?/ I do this too, especially 4 scripts
7:35 pm PennyAsh: @yeah_write I agree, perfect people are bland uninteresting people #scriptchat
7:35 pm jeffige: @RandomOenophile @zacsanford2 how detailed do you usually get? Not very. My char's know themselves.They let me know if I need to #scriptchat
7:35 pm jeannevb: @rachlanger ugh. I moved to the family room. Seems to be getting better connection here... and closer to liquor ha #scriptchat
7:35 pm RandomOenophile: Srsly? That's great! RT @Alex_Carrick: Re all my chars, my 1st question is what are they wearing? #scriptchat
7:35 pm yeah_write: @ravenpearlink That's a good want to "see" your characters. #scriptchat
7:35 pm mariblaser: @yeah_write My dog plays the part of your horse, I think. Totally understand you. :) #scriptchat
7:35 pm ninehourfilms: @zacsanford2 Lucky! I can't figure out rewriting, I can't seem to get into the mood to do it. #scriptchat
7:35 pm Donna_Carrick: #scriptchat My characters appear to me fully formed complete with clothes &mood & purpose. Then comes their story.
7:36 pm TamaraNKitties: @Alex_Carrick Hmmm, I never worry about what they're wearing, just about what they're 'about' and how they see themselves. #scriptchat
7:36 pm jeannevb: @zacsanford2 i WISH i liked rewriting the best! #lucky #scriptchat
7:36 pm mariblaser: *pours wine* :) RT @jeannevb: back... now I REALLY need a drink #scriptchat
7:36 pm HoodedMan: @yeah_write idea of the char, like the story itself, slowly developing everything #scriptchat
7:36 pm RandomOenophile: I do. Fave theme is independent woman finds love. RT @zacsanford2: ...recurring character traits/themes in their stories? #scriptchat
7:36 pm SissiePoohSOD: @russellnichols: exactly. when I hear a specific actor's voice as my char, it's amazing how much better the dialogue reads. #scriptchat
7:36 pm jeannevb: @dawnbierschwal heehee #scriptchat
7:36 pm yeah_write: Well you wouldn't like me then. lol RT @PennyAsh: @yeah_write I agree, perfect people are bland uninteresting people #scriptchat
7:36 pm Alex_Carrick: #scriptchat How many scrptwriters compile background story for major chars?
7:37 pm MonicaEmme: @CDominiqueG Yeah I'm not worried about the title. It will come when its ready. #scriptchat
7:37 pm ninehourfilms: @jeannevb I know! I wonder if I got it from overexposure to Cinderella as a child ; ) #scriptchat
7:37 pm shabanky: @zacsanford2 very detailed at b4 I write but once I start 2 write I try 2 keep the details down and sneak them gradually #scriptchat
7:37 pm zacsanford2: I'm just sick and twisted :) RT @jeannevb: @zacsanford2 i WISH i liked rewriting the best! #lucky #scriptchat
7:37 pm RandomOenophile: @jeannevb Liquor in the family room... Connection? ;-) #scriptchat
7:37 pm PennyAsh: @yeah_write ROFL sure I would :) #scriptchat
7:37 pm SissiePoohSOD: when it comes to physical description, I tell just enough 4 the reader 2 get an idea of the char. #scriptchat
7:37 pm MonicaEmme: @Donna_Carrick mine too Donna! #scriptchat
7:37 pm jeannevb: @Alex_Carrick i always do backstory... always... dont use most of it, but it makes me feel I know the char better #scriptchat
7:37 pm jeffige: @Alex_Carrick Re all my chars, my 1st question is what are they wearing? M 1st ? is why! #scriptchat
7:37 pm yeah_write: @mariblaser Kindred spirits, my dog and my older horse are what make me get out of bed and go to work each day. #scriptchat
7:37 pm zacsanford2: RT @RandomOenophile: Fave theme is independent woman finds love. RT @zacsanford2: recurring character traits/themes in ur story? #scriptchat
7:38 pm ninehourfilms: @zacsanford2 My other big one is relationships, just two people trying to figure out how to live & be together. #scriptchat
7:38 pm jeannevb: @zacsanford2 1 day we'll write together. I'll do all the char dev while u sip tequila & u'll do the rewrites hee #scriptchat
7:38 pm HoodedMan: I also have the scenes and the general area where the film will be made in my head #scriptchat
7:38 pm zacsanford2: Perfect! RT @SissiePoohSOD: when it comes to physical description, I tell just enough 4 the reader 2 get an idea of the char. #scriptchat
7:38 pm jeannevb: @MonicaEmme @Donna_Carrick so nice to see #writechat ppl here. Thank u for taking the leap : ) #scriptchat
7:38 pm Donna_Carrick: #scriptchat Recurring char/theme , yes, char must have grown from great adversity & live by code rather than surface morals.
7:38 pm russellnichols: @AHnomaly that's how i am. it's like i get a new idea every other day. gotta stay focused though. #scriptchat
7:38 pm SissiePoohSOD: a secondary theme in my stories is of people connecting & finding love. #scriptchat
7:38 pm jolenejahnke: Once posted a 3x5 card on the wall saying "What Would Doug Heffernan Do?" Visualized lead character as a Kevin James type. #scriptchat
7:39 pm PennyAsh: @zacsanford2 recurring theme in mine seriously flawed mc finds healing with secomdary mc #scriptchat
7:39 pm jeffige: @yeah_write @PennyAsh perfect people are bland uninteresting people. Thats why I am soooo damn interesting! #scriptchat
7:39 pm RandomOenophile: Me, too. Don't like to be spoon-fed. RT @SissiePoohSOD: ...I tell just enough 4 the reader 2 get an idea of the char. #scriptchat
7:39 pm yeah_write: Mine is the odd ball that somehow manages to fake everyone out, that's he's not so odd. #scriptchat
7:39 pm SissiePoohSOD: @zacsanford2: thanks! :) #scriptchat
7:39 pm DJordanKnight: came in late, sorry - what's the topic, please? #scriptchat
8:10 pm jeannevb: @zacsanford2 @yeah_write2 I liked watching OZ for that reason #myantilife #scriptchat
8:10 pm ninehourfilms: @SissiePoohSOD I always end up with a love story in there somewhere, no matter what I start out trying to do. #scriptchat
8:10 pm yeah_write2: Can't write romance because I've been married too long and forgot what it is. #scriptchat
8:10 pm zacsanford2: I'm working on plotting out a western horror film. This is a genre I thought I would never write in. #scriptchat
8:10 pm JoannaDangelo: @zacsanford2 The book is great - tough to read but hopeful in end. Did Peter Jackson write the script? #scriptchat
8:10 pm SissiePoohSOD: my horror isn't the slasher-type stuff, it's more psychological than anything else. #scriptchat
8:11 pm jeannevb: @Alex_Carrick so glad u came! Plz come back... #scriptchat
8:11 pm SissiePoohSOD: @ninehourfilms: that's really not bad. when I write a love story, it takes a lot of twists, but it always ends happily. #scriptchat
8:11 pm JoannaDangelo: @zacsanford2 now that is cool! western horror film #scriptchat
8:11 pm zacsanford2: @JoannaDangelo Yeah, Peter Jackson wrote it along with his writing team for the LOTR trilogy. #scriptchat
8:11 pm CDominiqueG: @SissiePoohSOD Im working on two projects that are completely out of element ... my #nanowrimo project is very dark #scriptchat ... scary
8:11 pm jeannevb: @brozogirl I'll leave my whips in the closet nxt wk hee #scriptchat
8:12 pm ninehourfilms: @yeah_write2 Oh no, I better get my romance stories out of the way then ; ) #scriptchat
8:12 pm jeannevb: @mariblaser night! xo #scriptchat
8:12 pm SissiePoohSOD: now, I'll have a scary monster in there 2 shake things up, tho'. #scriptchat
8:12 pm TamaraNKitties: @Viciously #writechat ended about 3 hrs ago, tho many check in from time 2 time. Many in #scriptchat now. What kind of tips on description?
8:12 pm smashadv: @jeannevb I wonder if actors realize we think of them this way. as vestibules for the dialogue? ;) #scriptchat
8:12 pm jolenejahnke: *snicker* RT @yeah_write2: Cant write romance because Ive been married too long and forgot what it is. #scriptchat
8:12 pm JoannaDangelo: @yeah_write2 hey there's always research, ahem. #scriptchat
8:12 pm jeannevb: @Donna_Carrick so glad u joined us, Donna! Tell all the #writechat ers we dont bite... maybe whip tho : ) #scriptchat
8:12 pm jeannevb: @RandomOenophile happy writing! #scriptchat
8:12 pm PennyAsh: @HoodedMan genres are there so the bookstore knows where to put your book, meaningless otherwise #scriptchat
8:12 pm PennGates: @zacsanford2 In 1 script I have lies, deceit, betrayal, murder, theft, & yet it all ends well. Wish I were better at humor. #ScriptChat
8:12 pm JoannaDangelo: @zacsanford2 Well, then it's going to be good. He's a genius. #scriptchat
8:12 pm TamaraNKitties: @jeannevb Thanks for the invite to #scriptchat. It got me writing :D
8:13 pm jeannevb: @jeffige I'll find a special whip for the diaper boy ha #scriptchat
8:13 pm zacsanford2: @jeannevb You might need the whips since @yeah_write and I will not be here to keep things peaceful :) #scriptchat
8:13 pm Russelman: @CDominiqueG every succesful script follows this structure (catalyst, big event, point of no return, crisis, resolution) #scriptchat
8:13 pm jeannevb: GREAT! : ) RT @TamaraNKitties: @jeannevb Thanks for the invite to #scriptchat. It got me writing :D
8:13 pm smashadv: @zacsanford2 Wow. I don't think I've ever considered (much less seen) that genre. #scriptchat
8:13 pm SissiePoohSOD: @CDominiqueG: my #nano novel is dark, but it's not a mad-slasher thing. it's more like "Rosemary's Baby" than anything. #scriptchat
8:14 pm yeah_write2: @JoannaDangelo Sadly romance and sex are two different animals. lol #scriptchat
8:14 pm jeannevb: @zacsanford2 @yeah_write oh, that's right! @KageyNYC & I will be on it #scriptchat
8:14 pm zacsanford2: @smashadv There's a couple that went direct to DVD, but next year the amazing Preacher will come out in that genre. #scriptchat
8:14 pm PennGates: Can I help? I'll need a whip please. hehe RT @jeannevb: @jeffige Ill find a special whip for the diaper boy ha #ScriptChat
8:14 pm JustinWHedges: Outta here, peeps, got a blog post to write. Great topic tonight! #scriptchat
8:14 pm jeannevb: @smashadv @zacsanford2 glad u two met : ) #scriptchat
8:15 pm CDominiqueG: @SissiePoohSOD mine not a slasher either... just darker themes. #scriptchat
8:15 pm JoannaDangelo: @yeah_write2 you can still do the research - takes more work for the romance part. #scriptchat
8:15 pm jeffige: @yeah_write2 @jolenejahnke been married too long and forgot what it is. I am so sorry to read that. #scriptchat
8:15 pm jeannevb: @JustinWHedges thanks for stopping by! #scriptchat
8:15 pm CDominiqueG: @Russelman thank you... clears up a lot. #scriptchat
8:15 pm yeah_write2: @JustinWHedges Thanks for joining us tonight. #scriptchat
8:15 pm jeannevb: @PennGates haha @jeffige #scriptchat
8:16 pm jeffige: @jeannevb Thank you Miss - may I have another! #scriptchat
8:16 pm SissiePoohSOD: @CDominiqueG: writin g something a little dark than what I'm used to is a good mental challenge. #scriptchat
8:16 pm jeffige: Goodnight fellow #scriptchatters! #scriptchat
8:17 pm ninehourfilms: I'm supposed to be up at 2:30am for a shoot tomorrow, but something keeps distracting me from working ; ) #scriptchat
8:17 pm yeah_write2: Actually my husband is pretty good at romcom. lolRT @JoannaDangelo: you can still do the research -... for the romance part. #scriptchat
8:17 pm SissiePoohSOD: @jeannevb. had a great time 2night @ #scriptchat. good 2 see all of u. have a good night! #scriptchat
8:17 pm zacsanford2: well y'all looks like I'm out of here for the night. Was fun chatting with each and every one of you. #scriptchat
8:18 pm smashadv: @ealvarezgibson I have a concept for a script about a judge and can't get Richard Jenkins out of my mind. #scriptchat
8:18 pm jeffige: @PennGates Can I help? I'll need a whip please. hehe RT @jeannevb Ah man. Take it easy on the DAD!? #scriptchat
8:18 pm RandomOenophile: Okay, did #writechat and #scriptchat. Now #amwriting and am happy I don't have to use Tweetchat for it!
8:18 pm zacsanford2: And how the hell can we become a trending topic when a Kardashian is getting fake married on TV. #scriptchat
8:18 pm DJordanKnight: @zacsanford2 me too. taking my sniffles back to bed. it's been fun, as always. #scriptchat
8:19 pm ealvarezgibson: @smashadv You would do well to trust that instinct. #scriptchat
8:19 pm yeah_write2: @zacsanford2 good night Zac. I'll send you an email about next Sunday. #scriptchat
8:19 pm PennGates: @jeannevb Opinion re dev: If 2 chars are killed, both evil, does it hurt if 1 small point of redemption is revealed about them? #ScriptChat
8:19 pm yeah_write2: haha RT @RandomOenophile: Okay, did #writechat and #scriptchat. Now #amwriting and am happy I dont have to use Tweetchat for it! #scriptchat
8:19 pm PennyAsh: @karenquah It's a timing thing, my dog always wants out at the good parts #scriptchat
8:19 pm yeah_write2: @DJordanKnight Hope you feel better. #scriptchat
8:19 pm DJordanKnight: @zacsanford2 We get a Kardashian to get fake married in scriptchat?? #scriptchat
8:20 pm zacsanford2: @yeah_write2 perfect. Look forward to it. #scriptchat
8:20 pm JustinWHedges: RT @shabanky I bought a WAY overpriced book called The Screenplay Workbook - that's what I use, love it #scriptchat
8:20 pm CDominiqueG: @SissiePoohSOD agreed #scriptchat
8:20 pm jeffige: Later Gaterz! Back 2 tweet! #scriptchat
8:20 pm yeah_write2: For writers, RWA has a screenwriting chapter, very interesting. I'm the chapter Pres. #scriptchat
8:21 pm DJordanKnight: @yeah_write2 Thanks -- and good luck with that script, sounds like you've got your work cut out for you. #scriptchat
8:22 pm ninehourfilms: Okay, time to sign off & finish work to go to bed. Goodnight all, it was fun! Hope to see you next week! #scriptchat
8:23 pm jeffige: Man, I need a smoke after that #scriptchat
8:23 pm DJordanKnight: @PennGates Even though you didn't ask me, lol, I would say that it def would not hurt. No character is completely good or evil. #scriptchat
8:24 pm JoannaDangelo: Great chatting with you gang - now I'm off to watch another ep. of Vampire Diaries. ;D #scriptchat
8:25 pm jeanneveillette: got locked out as @jeannevb... sorry #scriptchat
8:25 pm zacsanford2: A special thanks from @jeannevb who has been locked out from twitter for tweeting too much. #scriptchat
8:25 pm jeanneveillette: sorry I missed the last part, but hopefully I'll be able to get a transcript up tomorrow #scriptchat
8:25 pm PennyAsh: @jeffige btw angry wolverine is metaphore for earthshaking event, not being a smartass there #scriptchat
8:26 pm PennGates: @DJordanKnight That's ok & thanks. I've been wondering whether or not I should, but it feels right. A little spot of good. #ScriptChat
8:26 pm jeanneveillette: @zacsanford2 @yeah_write just copy and paste and email me the doc in case I can't get the transcript site to work, ok? *smooch* #scriptchat
8:26 pm jeanneveillette: @PennyAsh i have to ask, how can u be tweeting all day and twitter never locks u out? U whip them, don't u? #scriptchat
8:27 pm zacsanford2: @jeanneveillette This transcript looks ugly, did I do it right? #scriptchat
8:28 pm PennGates: @jeanneveillette Does Twitter really tell you that you've tweeted too much? Never had that happen. #ScriptChat
8:28 pm CDominiqueG: @jeanneveillette @PennyAsh @zacsanford2 Im stuck here at work for 3 more hours. After working a double a few hours ago..life sux #scriptchat
8:28 pm PennyAsh: @jeanneveillette It locks me out now and then :) Got my api set as high as it will go #scriptchat
8:28 pm jeanneveillette: @PennGates yes, if a small bit of humanity is revealed in antagonist & he dies, I feel something. I like complex villains #scriptchat
8:28 pm DJordanKnight: @PennGates NP. Yeah, don't be afraid to let your bad guys be good and your good guys be bad ... at least a little : ) #scriptchat
8:29 pm Donna_Carrick: @jeannevb #scriptchat #writechat I'll definitely pass the word, Jeanne. It was a blast for @Alex_Carrick and me.
8:29 pm jolenejahnke: If I learned one thing from #scriptchat tonight it's that I don't do enough outlining.
8:29 pm jeanneveillette: @zacsanford2 really ugly? We can just post an ugly warning on the blog haha. Afterall, we aren't tech prof, just writers #scriptchat
8:29 pm PennyAsh: @CDominiqueG been there, glad I don't have to do that anymore #scriptchat
8:29 pm jeanneveillette: @DJordanKnight @PennGates... i've always loved the bad boys ha #scriptchat
8:30 pm DJordanKnight: Okay, really going to crawl into bed and die now. Thanks for the great chat, all. #scriptchat
8:30 pm jeanneveillette: @jolenejahnke damn, & u were supposed to learn something about char dev! #wefailed #scriptchat
8:30 pm jeanneveillette: @Donna_Carrick so glad u came : ) #scriptchat
8:30 pm jeanneveillette: @DJordanKnight hope u feel better! #scriptchat
8:30 pm zacsanford2: @DJordanKnight feel better! #scriptchat
8:30 pm jeanneveillette: I have to go too.... my boy needs to get to bed & we're reading a great book together #scriptchat
8:31 pm zacsanford2: But she learned somethng RT @jeanneveillette: @jolenejahnke damn, & u were supposed to learn something about char dev! #wefailed #scriptchat
8:31 pm rachlanger: I'm out now #scriptchat folks (with the occasional in) thanks for all the great info. #scriptchat
8:31 pm jeanneveillette: Night all! Again, thank u so much for joining! Hope u all learned & had some fun too : ) #whip #scriptchat
8:31 pm PennGates: @DJordanKnight Yes, feel better fast. #ScriptChat
8:31 pm DJordanKnight: @jeaneveillette who doesn't love a bad boy? :) @zacsanford2 thanks bub - i'll catch up with you this week. night all! #scriptchat
8:31 pm PennyAsh: @jeanneveillette Nice chat tonight, I'm learning I'm pretty much on the same page as everyone else. Good to know #scriptchat
8:32 pm Donna_Carrick: .@PennGates #scriptchat - Stick around with this great group of tweeters-you'll reach tweet capacity soon enough! Hah
8:32 pm PennGates: Signing off & back to regular tweet, for a short while. Nite all! #ScriptChat
8:32 pm DJordanKnight: crap, that was supposed to be two tweets but i didn't update between them. nyquil anyone? and she's down for the count... #scriptchat
8:33 pm PennGates: @Donna_Carrick Thanks, but do I want to experience getting bounced? :-) #ScriptChat
8:34 pm jeanneveillette: @zacsanford2 so true, so true @jolenejahnke *ROLOs* #scriptchat
8:34 pm PennGates: Have fun y'all. #ScriptChat
8:35 pm jeanneveillette: @PennyAsh so glad ur trying this screenwriting madness. Misery loves company : ) #scriptchat
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