We've been having transcript errors the past few weeks, and every week we think it's fixed, it happens again. The fallout has been losing our EURO transcript. I'm still desperately trying to obtain the missing transcripts. We'll have to figure out a more solid plan B going forward, and we will. If any of you know of a transcript solution, please email me at jeanne@scriptchat.com
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It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK talking 'Does story dictate character OR does character dictate story?'
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Daily Dialogue theme for the week: Making a scene. Today: "When Harry Met Sally" (1989) http://t.co/fviz4ZdF6z #scriptchat
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Let's bring on the character/story debate. #scriptchat
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@RWWFilm @SarahAlexis4 *waves* welcome aboard #scriptchat
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Well, that was easy. WHo needs a refill? RT @PitchfestBob: Character dictates story. NEXT! :- #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 You LIE! I was there late fall, it was a bit cold. I was there start of summer, a bit warm. I want to come baaack! #scriptchat
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@DannyManus hey, pop into the chat. We're talking Does story dictate character OR does character dictate story? #scriptchat
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Once I created my char, I knew what arc he had to go through, therefore I think char is most important. #scriptchat
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I think u can start w either. Eventually,by the time you're done outlining, both should be influencing each other #scriptchat
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@nicsigni I'm the same way. It's ALL about character for me. Hooks are one thing but we execute them via chars #scriptchat
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Thank goodness @PitchfestBob was able to answer that for us! What should we tackle next? :) #scriptchat
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@hamishd10 I'm with ya #scriptchat
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When I 1st started writing, watched Hero's Two Journeys DVD. Great @ showing how story & character co-exist & depend on ea other #scriptchat
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@DannyManus That's my usual path as well. concept helps me develop the MC, & then a well developed MC helps develop the concept #scriptchat
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I'm running a bit late. I'll be there soon. #ScriptChat
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They say that a feature is about the plot and a TV series is about the world, or it's about the characters. #scriptchat
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@DannyManus I had faith in you : #scriptchat
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Story comes from character. Character evolves as your story advances. #scriptchat
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And once you have your protagonist, you design other characters to conflict and contrast with them, creating story. #scriptchat
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A story is a series of causes and effects. The actions of your protagonist are the causes, IMHO. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 @IngridElkner totally agree re: TV. Like Don on Mad Men is irritating me this season. Making me lose interest #scriptchat
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Q for all: What's your favorite character in a film that really MADE the film's success? #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 Precisely. In selling a TV series you're also selling a world. That's why when pitching TV, plot isn't as important #scriptchat
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agree, agree, agree : RT @byDougRich: @jeannevb Character Character Character #scriptchat
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Find an interesting premise. Populate it with a unique protagonist. They will each advance the other. #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob Or just the fact that it's on NBC #scriptchat
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awesome example RT @Daleylife: Annie Wilkes from MISERY is a pretty good character that drove the story. #scriptchat
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@jeannevb Indy in Raiders #scriptchat
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@GCGeek Funny you say that, I'm working on a horror anthology series here in Melbourne :p #scriptchat
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Hannibal too RT @SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb Clarice Starling is one example for me. And Ripley in Alien. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 good point. Amazing acting totally elevates the writing. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 Selling a TV series is selling a world. When pitching TV, plot is secondary. #scriptchat
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I find that, once you're writing, if the story is driving the character, it's probably not the right character for that story. #scriptchat
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@DannyManus I love the bad boys #scriptchat
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@Daleylife Great to have you back #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob That's awesome! lol #scriptchat
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@DannyManus Mike Myers? As in Austin Powers? haha. But Austin Powers is a great example of a strong film character. #scriptchat
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Your ANTAGONIST can make you think of a great story. Freddy, Jason, Mike Myers, Candyman #scriptchat
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When I read a great script/book, it's usually the characters that linger in my mind more than the plot #scriptchat
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@DannyManus haha #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob @DannyManus Thanks Bob. Now I want to see Alan Rickman play The Joker when they reboot Batman #scriptchat
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@RWWFilm Mine starts with character, concept grows out protagonist, then they feed off each other #scriptchat
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When I read a great script/book, its usually the characters that linger in my mind more than the plot #scriptchat
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FYI, @Screenwriter12 and @PitchfestBob from Great Am Pitchfest are our guests next week! #GAPF #scriptchat
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@Cilly247 That's interesting. My brainstorming always starts w/ concept. #scriptchat
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Some of my favourite projects came out of "What if?" Quickly a character gave birth to itself and the world, story & cast grew. #scriptchat
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@Screenwriter12 Definitely had your BELOW ZERO chars lingering a LONG time after! #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner "WHAT IF?" is my favorite question when I write... and in life. #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob And we've got ourselves a pitch. How many Rickman roles can we squeeze into one character! #scriptchat
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@Daleylife Always re-thinking your writing process helps make you a good writer. #scriptchat
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we like to mess with minds here #mwhaha RT @Daleylife: im really rethinking my writing process right now. lol. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 Definitely concept, then add the characters. #scriptchat
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i love HALLOWEEN btw. proves a scary film doesnt need gore. #scriptchat
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Importance of character: ROBOCOP without Robocop is just 2013 Detroit. #scriptchat
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A writer pal "method writes". He lives/acts like his hero until he nails an outline...he's divorced 3x now. :P #scriptchat
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I pretty much never shut up about Bill Martell's books, but read his Creating Strong Protagonists blue book. Really fantastic. #scriptchat
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Through this book I've been extracting my own flaws and demons to put in my protag, and now it's creating story for her. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner How / Where can I get a copy, Ingrid? It's been recommended before, too. #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob Detroit looks like the Robocop world, doesn't it? :p #scriptchat
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And like @DannyManus - as a reader, I read something bc of concept, but char & their journey is what sells it. #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob I'm going to write all my scripts in a freezer from now on. No distractions! #scriptchat
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@Screenwriter12 @PitchfestBob No distractions, except the cold. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 @rwwfilm Concept is fine. But character is why we watch and invest ourselves in the experience. #scriptchat
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@Screenwriter12 Amazon. All very cheap too, around $3 each. I'm fussy about screenwriting books and these are gamechangers. #scriptchat
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can I join u? RT @Screenwriter12: @PitchfestBob Im going to write all my scripts in a freezer from now on. No distractions! #scriptchat
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@Screenwriter12 @PitchfestBob If you're method writing, I'd set your next horror script on the beaches of Cancun. #JustSayin #scriptchat
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@RWWFilm I agree. I want to get back to writing the story, so I can spend more time with the characters. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner @skcomedy Is the question more, "what if so-and-so" did something #scriptchat
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@Screenwriter12 In Melbourne you can rent a cell in old Melbourne Prison as a writing office. Would be a cool place to write. #scriptchat
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HAHA Let's pitch it at GAPF RT @PitchfestBob: And a reality show is born. RT @jeannevb: can I join u? RT @Screenwriter12: #scriptchat
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COOL! RT @IngridElkner: @Screenwriter12 you can rent a cell in old Melbourne Prison as writing office. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner Like I needed another reason to go back to Australia! Awesome! #scriptchat
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@Daleylife Yes. #scriptchat
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@emertzwriting You'd have to have so-and-so already in your head. OR "What if scientists brought dinosaurs back?" #scriptchat
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In Melbourne you can rent a cell in old Melbourne Prison as a writing office. Would be a cool place to write. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner Interesting example. Sounds like my current project. Oh wait, done already. #scriptchat
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@Daleylife I'd humbly suggest changing that. It will make your life significantly easier :) #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 @Daleylife I was always told that's the best process, college essay, anything. #scriptchat
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@Screenwriter12 The real convict experience! It's where our most famous bushranger, Ned Kelly was hanged. Part of my university! #scriptchat
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@Daleylife We just had ten writers do a '48 Hour' Screenplay marathon this weekend , and they did exactly that! #scriptchat
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@nicsigni @jeannevb And she's an example of a terrific character name, as well. #scriptchat
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I find it easier to create world/plot/character for features- it's a finite problem. Comedy little harder. Drama is the hard one #scriptchat
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@SarahAlexis4 I am writing from the haunted guest room #217 at the Stanley Hotel right now (where 'The Shining' was inspired). #scriptchat
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@chris_coffel deal @PitchfestBob @Screenwriter12 #scriptchat
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@SarahAlexis4 Most places are haunted, but it will only affect you if you are sensitive to those kinds of energies. #scriptchat
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@Singleton_Paul @zacsanford2 I write holes/create spaces into my outlines, places to add material so I'm not feeling restricted. #scriptchat
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@DannyManus thanks for popping in! #scriptchat
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Ditto that, Danny. RT @jeannevb: @DannyManus thanks for popping in! #scriptchat
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@Daleylife I love that feeling, when the story "writes itself." It means I've fleshed it out well in the outline. #scriptchat
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You'll love this exercise my teacher taught: figure out protag's voice - where they grew up, class, attitude, speech style etc. #scriptchat
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@DannyManus Thanks for stopping by. Hope the show brings lots of laughs. #scriptchat
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Love when your characters take over and you just try to keep up with the voices in your head! #scriptchat
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Then write a monologue, take 10 minutes. Then read it, and extract an A story (action/outer) and a B story (relationship/inner). #scriptchat
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@stephanbugaj Characters do not need to be likeable. They must be relatable. #scriptchat
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It's probably best for TV, but it's effective!! #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 @emertzwriting ditto. My outlines are the house, or even the blueprints, it's a pencil sketch on a napkin #scriptchat
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@Daleylife Lucky for you. I used to write without an outline, but the plot holes were so big...now I outline first. #scriptchat
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Creating chars, finding their wounds & letting those wounds help drive the plot is my favorite part of creating story #scriptchat
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@SarahAlexis4 Yep. There's a reason why I haven't been on the Melb prison night tour. I've already seen scary shit elsewhere. #scriptchat
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Character first works well for me when I start from a treatment. Then I feel badly because the character I love ins't active. #scriptchat
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@SarahAlexis4 I call that 'dirty headlights writing'. When you write without an outline & don't know where story is going. #scriptchat
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Regardng character, one word: Dexter #scriptchat
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I usually start with character, then find the great concept that best explores the character or reverse engineer from concept. #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob Oh, you're there NOW?! Creepy/awesome! #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 Absolutely. If it helps you get from A to B, then that's the way YOU should do it. #scriptchat
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Creating chars, finding their wounds & letting those wounds drive the plot is my favorite part of creating story #scriptchat
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@jeannevb I think I'm the only person who wishes Dexter would stop the internal monologues about his own behavior. #scriptchat
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Som big screenwriter interviewed in Script Mag ages ago doesn't outline. Writes 400 page 1st draft, saves 30 pages, repeats. #scriptchat
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Join the club, we're all here. RT @Daleylife: i have a lot to learn... #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 We already built the world & put in the main characters. Then we stepped back to build the protag & source stories. #scriptchat
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Amen RT @emertzwriting: Join the club, were all here. RT @Daleylife: i have a lot to learn... #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob We must do this writing marathon again - what an awesome weekend! #scriptchat
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@emertzwriting I'm just talking in general. His char is so interesting. #scriptchat
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@wcmartell We were just talking about you! (Well, your books.) #scriptchat
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That's the great thing abt #scriptchat discussions. It's not abt correcting each other, it's abt learning from each other.
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Love it. RT @PitchfestBob: Chase your character up a tree & throw rocks at them. Let them figure out how to get down. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 Enjoy the film fest. #scriptchat
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@Daleylife Probably because last season of Dexter the plot was in a holding pattern where nothing really happened. #scriptchat
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Chase your character up a tree & throw rocks at them. Let them figure out how to get down. #scriptchat
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1 of biggest mistakes writers make in draft 1, IMO, is protecting protagonist too much. Push them off a cliff & see what they do #scriptchat
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1 of biggest mistakes writers make in draft 1, IMO, is protecting protagonist too much. Push them off a cliff & see what \u2026
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@PitchfestBob @Screenwriter12 I did my own writing marathon this weekend. Got another draft of SBAN "done" #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 @PitchfestBob Or East Coast. #selfinterest #scriptchat
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@zacsanford Apparently Camp Nano was this month but they didn't really promote it. Will check that link out! #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 We're thinking New Orleans next! #scriptchat
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Can I caveat what Zac said: What works for us (produces the best results). Some people don't leave comfort zone, don't learn. #scriptchat
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@jeannevb Wow - congrats! #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 Which fest you at? #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob bahahaha. Burn. #scriptchat
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What I want for Christmas: Put sensor on forehead\u2026visualize script\u2026machine spits out 70mm negative of the movie. #scriptchat
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@jeannevb That's been my big prob with Suburgatory. They set all these things up in an ep for conflict, but never use them!! #scriptchat
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The Direct Plug thing for your computer. Plug into brain and plug into 'puter. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 Awesome! If you're at Newport Beach Film Festival on May 2nd, you can see the short film I wrote, THE PROWLER! #scriptchat
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@ZaraLHFisher92 Waiting with open arms :) #scriptchat
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Juggling teens and chat... I really need a drink now #scriptchat
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@ZaraLHFisher92 Ditto. I'm sick of having LA envy. Once Donald Sutherland has stared at you in a restaurant, you're changed 4eva #scriptchat
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@Daleylife Join us at half past the hour for #tvwriterchat Then you'll be on topic. lol #scriptchat
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@screenwriter12 I still need to read it in one sitting and see if it sucks HAHA #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 That's cool. You can see it when it screens at Cannes instead :p #scriptchat
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@RWWFilm Oh if only I was rich enough :' But I will make it there, determined. So many opportunities to be had! #scriptchat
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Nearly 2am, need to drift off. Night all #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob will send you an email about that #scriptchat
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@ZaraLHFisher92 Ditto. I'm sick of having LA envy. Once Donald Sutherland has stared at you in a restaurant, you're chang\u2026
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Tonight on #tvwriterchat we have Screenwriting Career Coach @LeeZJessup as our guest. Please join us at 1/2 past the hour. #scriptchat
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@ingridelkner I love to push that envelope. Now reading ea scene asking "Did I push the prot enough.... what if?" #scriptchat
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@jeannevb @Screenwriter12 Not possible #scriptchat
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You'll love this exercise my teacher taught: figure out protag's voice - where they grew up, class, attitude, speech styl\u2026
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Then write a monologue, take 10 minutes. Then read it, and extract an A story (action/outer and a B story (relationship/\u2026
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@IngridElkner It's so irritating, I feel I'm missing out on so much experience and enjoyment. Haha I will get to USA eventually! #scriptchat
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Just a few more minutes left to dish dirt on characters #scriptchat
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Tonight on #tvwriterchat we have Screenwriting Career Coach @LeeZJessup as our guest. Please join us at 1/2 past the hour.\u2026
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@RWWFilm I'll be sending it to you for your eyes soon enough #youbethejudge #scriptchat
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i'll try to make it to the tv chat. marc cherry said, "television is the writers medium." #scriptchat
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@jeannevb I blackmail my characters.#scriptchat
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@jeannevb I think if you're cringing/yelling/apologising/crying/squirming or laughing then you've pushed the character. #scriptchat
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@jeannevb There is a great line in @onthepage book. 3 things your character would do in public, 3 in private. Very telling. #scriptchat
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@wcmartell I tried that, but my computer kept coming back with "You have got to be joking. This does not compute" #scriptchat #DamnCritics
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i love writing villains way more than the good guys. #scriptchat
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She will also be at #GAPF. She rocks. RT @authorJamie: Tonight on #tvwriterchat @LeeZJessup. Please join us at 1/2 past the hour #scriptchat
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@ZaraLHFisher92 Where are you? haha - a/s/l ('90s flashback #scriptchat
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@jeannevb See. Now I'm drooling in front of all the nice #scriptchat ppl.
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@princess_scribe Describe how you blackmail them. #scriptchat
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Just a few more minutes left to dish dirt on characters #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob Looking forward to #GAPF this year. But I may have to skip if my short film makes the LA Film Fest. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner 30s/outtie/la : #scriptchat
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@RWWFilm mwhahaha #scriptchat
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@authorJamie Yes, great exercise to help differentiate their private vs. public persona. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner It's tongue-in-cheek. I know all their dirty secrets... and I might just tell them all. #scriptchat
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@jeannevb Alan Ball: I don't think there's any other writer who has taught me more about character writing. Such a genius. #scriptchat
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@authorJamie Hope you can do both! And congrats for getting it done and out there! #scriptchat
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@authorJamie very cool #scriptchat
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@authorJamie I went to an @onthepage short class last time in LA on dialogue, wow. One tip Pilar gave has rocked my dialogue. #scriptchat
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Tonight on #tvwriterchat we have Screenwriting Career Coach @LeeZJessup as our guest. Please join us at 1/2 past the hour.\u2026
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this is the part where i link my blog, cause im an awful person. but u are all writers, so... http://t.co/oKqtXoBawN #scriptchat
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@SherandtheCity Six Feet Under #ohyeah #scriptchat
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You can get some help elevating your characters AND your concept w/ RWW Script Coverage : http://t.co/WxceouVlmF #scriptchat #justsayin
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@zacsanford2 bahaha. Outie no doubtie #scriptchat
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this was a great chat. im happy to be back! : #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner tell us? what tip? #scriptchat
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@princess_scribe I thought you meant that if they go through your trials, you'll give them the outcome they desire. #scriptchat
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Just throwing out, my last character first project was based on the local auto body big wig whose commercials were obnoxious #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner No. They get the outcome that best serves the story. #scriptchat #JustSayNoToHelicopterWriting
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@Daleylife Welcome back : Lovely meeting you. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner Pilar is awesome! #scriptchat
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@emertzwriting I would read this script, just knowing that fact. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner Ha - you guys are cracking me up! #scriptchat
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@14Shari Kinda hard, 'cos it's an exercise you do, too long to explain in tweets. Guess you'll have to read her book! #scriptchat
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That's science. RT @authorJamie: @IngridElkner Pilar is awesome! #scriptchat
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okay, seriously I'm gone now. Great chat y'all. Don't talk too much behind my back. #scriptchat
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@RWWFilm - same here. : #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob Thanks. I'm going to run it out sooner or later. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner How / Where can I get a copy, Ingrid? It's been recommended before, too. #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob I'm going to write all my scripts in a freezer from now on. No distractions! #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 @rwwfilm Concept is fine. But character is why we watch and invest ourselves in the experience. #scriptchat Retweeted by Signe Olynyk
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@IngridElkner Like I needed another reason to go back to Australia! Awesome! #scriptchat
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In Melbourne you can rent a cell in old Melbourne Prison as a writing office. Would be a cool place to write. #scriptchat Retweeted by Signe Olynyk
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@Daleylife We just had ten writers do a '48 Hour' Screenplay marathon this weekend , and they did exactly that! #scriptchat
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@SarahAlexis4 I am writing from the haunted guest room #217 at the Stanley Hotel right now (where 'The Shining' was inspired). #scriptchat
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Love when your characters take over and you just try to keep up with the voices in your head! #scriptchat
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@stephanbugaj Characters do not need to be likeable. They must be relatable. #scriptchat
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@SarahAlexis4 I call that 'dirty headlights writing'. When you write without an outline & don't know where story is going. #scriptchat
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I usually start with character, then find the great concept that best explores the character or reverse engineer from concept. #scriptchat
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Creating chars, finding their wounds & letting those wounds drive the plot is my favorite part of creating story #scriptchat Retweeted by Signe Olynyk
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Som big screenwriter interviewed in Script Mag ages ago doesn't outline. Writes 400 page 1st draft, saves 30 pages, repeats. #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob We must do this writing marathon again - what an awesome weekend! #scriptchat
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Chase your character up a tree & throw rocks at them. Let them figure out how to get down. #scriptchat Retweeted by Signe Olynyk
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@zacsanford2 We're thinking New Orleans next! #scriptchat
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Can I caveat what Zac said: What works for us (produces the best results). Some people don't leave comfort zone, don't learn. #scriptchat
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@jeannevb Wow - congrats! #scriptchat
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What I want for Christmas: Put sensor on forehead\u2026visualize script\u2026machine spits out 70mm negative of the movie. #scriptchat Retweeted by Signe Olynyk
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The Direct Plug thing for your computer. Plug into brain and plug into 'puter. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2 bahaha. Outie no doubtie #scriptchat
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this was a great chat. im happy to be back! : #scriptchat
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@princess_scribe I thought you meant that if they go through your trials, you'll give them the outcome they desire. #scriptchat
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Just throwing out, my last character first project was based on the local auto body big wig whose commercials were obnoxious #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner No. They get the outcome that best serves the story. #scriptchat #JustSayNoToHelicopterWriting
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@Daleylife Welcome back : Lovely meeting you. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner Pilar is awesome! #scriptchat
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@emertzwriting I would read this script, just knowing that fact. #scriptchat
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@IngridElkner Ha - you guys are cracking me up! #scriptchat
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@14Shari Kinda hard, 'cos it's an exercise you do, too long to explain in tweets. Guess you'll have to read her book! #scriptchat
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That's science. RT @authorJamie: @IngridElkner Pilar is awesome! #scriptchat Retweeted by Bob Schultz
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okay, seriously I'm gone now. Great chat y'all. Don't talk too much behind my back. #scriptchat
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@RWWFilm - same here. : #scriptchat
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@PitchfestBob Thanks. I'm going to run it out sooner or later. #scriptchat
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Whatever your story, your character needs to arc. From one opposite to another by the end of story. #scriptchat
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Thanks for another great chat. NEXT WEEK is @Screenwriter12 & @PitchfestBob of Great Am Pitchfest! http://t.co/SoySXlPOf6 #scriptchat
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