#Scriptchat Topic: Killing Off Your Protagonist
EURO Moderator:
Teenie Russell @teenierussell
USA Moderator:
Jeanne Veillette Bowerman @jeannevb
EURO CHAT:
@teenierussell: It's #scriptchat O'Clock! Come join us with
your thoughts and questions as we talk about killing off your main characters!
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:00 pm
@TVWriterChat: Tonight at #tvwriterchat we'll be joined by
guest @tryingtrue (film & television literary manager/producer). 6:30PM Pac
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:00 pm
@TaroJ: Hi #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:01 pm
@teenierussell: Hello everyone! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:02 pm
@teenierussell: First of all, which movies can we think of
in which a main character dies? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:04 pm
@TaroJ: I'm guessing there may be a few spoilers tonight �� #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:04 pm
@vickyhinault: @teenierussell The Departed, although nearly
everyone dies! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:06 pm
@ComedyBurble: @teenierussell Psycho #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:06 pm
@TaroJ: A common device is killing off your lead early and
telling the story in flashback #scriptchat ie Lawrence of Arabia
November 18, 2012, 8:06 pm
@richarddinnick: @teenierussell American Beauty Lovely Bones
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:07 pm
@teenierussell: Deep Blue Sea, Pulp Fiction #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:07 pm
@TaroJ: Does this make the character appear invulnerable for
the rest of the film as you know when they actually will die #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:08 pm
@keerdo: RT @teenierussell: It's #scriptchat O'Clock! Come
join us with your thoughts and questions as we talk about killing off your main
characters! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:08 pm
@Bang2write: @teenierussell more protags shld die, esp in
Horror + Thriller. Writers shy away from a climax that wld devastate (yet
satisfy) #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:09 pm
@ijoda07: Red leader standing by. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:09 pm
@teenierussell: Great, lots of examples: one when we know
they will die, others are sudden half-way through, others at the end...
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:11 pm
@JanineHJones: RT @Bang2write: @teenierussell more protags
shld die, esp in Horror + Thriller. Writers shy away from a climax that wld
devastate (yet satisfy) #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:11 pm
@teenierussell: RT @Bang2write more protags shld die, esp in
Horror + Thriller. Writers shy away from a climax that wld devastate (yet
satisfy) #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:11 pm
@TaroJ: Drew Barrymore in Scream, on the poster, lots of
interviews and gone before the credits. Clever marketing or clever writing?
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:12 pm
@teenierussell: Depends RT: @TaroJ Does character appear
invulnerable for the rest of the film as you know when they actually will die?
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:13 pm
@Bang2write: @teenierussell yet writers often kill off
protags in depressing dramas tho which really does my nut as feels forced
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:13 pm
@teenierussell: To me, in the case of American Beauty, we
always know he's going to die, but when? how? why? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:13 pm
@vickyhinault: Killing the assumed main character helps
create tension. e.g. Hurt Locker #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:14 pm
@ijoda07: @vickyhinault Or kills it. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:14 pm
@teenierussell: @Bang2write It's more shocking when it's not
drama though, especially when it happens to hero. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:15 pm
@ClaireYeowart: @TaroJ both. it was the actresses choice I
think, she was originally offered the lead. Clever girl. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:16 pm
@TaroJ: @vickyhinault yup Psycho is the perfect example of
that, all of a sudden you're watching a very different film #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:16 pm
@vickyhinault: @ijoda07 Any film you're thinking of in
particular? Can't think of a good example off hand. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:17 pm
@Bang2write: @TaroJ marketing. Drew was the star; Neve
wasn't. Made sense to lead w/ her. But her chr in script not protag #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:17 pm
@TaroJ: @ClaireYeowart Really? That is a genius decision
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:17 pm
@Bang2write: @teenierussell yeah *everybody* frigging dies
in dramas, it's BORING ;) #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:17 pm
@SamuelClark3: killing characters at the end can make
character arcs pointless, meaningless. Give there death meaning...n beyond...
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:18 pm
@teenierussell: Psycho is a good example as we think it's
all about Marion, and then it's not @TaroJ @vickyhinault #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:19 pm
@ijoda07: @vickyhinault Actually Hurt Locker - from memory
felt a bit cheated. Like had invested into character then he died early on.
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:19 pm
@ijoda07: @vickyhinault Then difficult to care about
remaining characters. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:19 pm
@teenierussell: So when a character such as Marion (Psycho)
dies, is there a shift in protag or was she never the protagonist? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:19 pm
@ijoda07: @teenierussell She was never the protagonist. More
the catalyst I'd say. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:20 pm
@TaroJ: @teenierussell ooh good question #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:20 pm
@vickyhinault: @ijoda07 Interesting, always good to see the
other side of the coin with stuff like that. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:22 pm
@SiFoulaReel: @teenierussell She *appears* to be the
protagonist, which is the trick of Psycho (at least the first trick, anyway)
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:22 pm
@MBDymension: It's been a while since I did #scriptchat. I'm
gonna try and join y'all tonight.
November 18, 2012, 8:22 pm
@teenierussell: @MBDymension hi there, welcome back!
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:23 pm
@teenierussell: @MBDymension we're talking about killing off
main characters. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:23 pm
@TaroJ: After a character died in The Walking Dead comic, I
had to stop reading for a while, just horrific, especially if you have kids
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:24 pm
@teenierussell: RT @SiFoulaReel She *appears* to be the
protagonist, which is the trick of Psycho (at least the first trick, anyway)
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:24 pm
@SiFoulaReel: SPOILER: Saw To Live & Die in L.A. age 10,
so I've always been onboard with idea of killing your hero if right for the
story #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:27 pm
@teenierussell: Have you ever felt cheated at the death of a
character, or thought it was pointless? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:27 pm
@Bang2write: @SamuelClark3 #outdated :P @teenierussell
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:28 pm
@Bang2write: @teenierussell Yet who plays the sister? Who
rmbrs her name? And curiously identical too so does she *really* die?
@SiFoulaReel #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:30 pm
@SiFoulaReel: @teenierussell Yes, because reasons
writer/director sighted were bullshit & not thought out. Recent horror
involving Hell. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:30 pm
@NamingJasonC: Killing the protag at end is not a problem
providing the journey from A to Z paid off. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:31 pm
@ClaireYeowart: @SiFoulaReel if it serves the story or
changes the game I'm all for it as well. Sometimes it misses the mark (e.g. The
Mist) #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:31 pm
@SiFoulaReel: @teenierussell Actually, any horror film where
final survivors die in last minute "twist". Why bother watching the
film then? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:31 pm
@richarddinnick: @teenierussell of course, It's a Wonderful
Life does something different with dead protagonists! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:32 pm
@daisy_and_me: @teenierussell yes! The end of 'a single
man'. Killing him off was just too tragic. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:33 pm
@TaroJ: Vanishing on 7th street EVERYBODY DIES I felt
cheated sort of, didn't really care about any of the characters #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:33 pm
@teenierussell: @SiFoulaReel or any horror film that just
randomly kills off everyone #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:33 pm
@NamingJasonC: @teenierussell #scriptchat I feel more
frustrated if the main character survives when truly they should've died. i.e.
comet hits planet :-)
November 18, 2012, 8:35 pm
@teenierussell: @Bang2write I didn't even remember a sister,
I'll have to watch it again #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:35 pm
@Bang2write: See! RT @teenierussell: @Bang2write I didn't
even remember a sister, I'll have to watch it again #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:35 pm
@IrwellJohnson: #scriptchat - I have to write all these
films down to watch. I've a thriller script and am troubled by the fact the
protag is killed at end
November 18, 2012, 8:36 pm
@Bang2write: @SiFoulaReel Norman *is* the protag in PSYCHO
for sure. But he doesn't feature for ages, we don't understand that now
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:36 pm
@teenierussell: @NamingJasonC I agree! Sometimes they HAVE
to die, but don't and it's a boring 'happy ending' #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:37 pm
@ClaireYeowart: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and Harold
and Maude - great end deaths. So important for the journey of other characters
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:38 pm
@teenierussell: Chronologically, John Travolta in Pulp
Fiction dies quite early on. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:39 pm
@TaroJ: Thelma and Louise, certainly an unexpected way of
ending #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:40 pm
@IrwellJohnson: MT @teenierussell: RT: @jeannevb WGA's top
101 scripts... most available for download http://t.co/4Jfo42wE #scriptchat
#screenwriting
November 18, 2012, 8:41 pm
@TaroJ: Amazing how many films we've named, Killing off your
character is certainly acceptable to even a hollywood audience #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:41 pm
@richarddinnick: The Woman in Black is one if these, of
course, but to me it felt oddly unsatisfying #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:42 pm
@teenierussell: The first couple of times that I watched
Pulp Fiction, I was quite surprised by Vincent's sudden and unceremonious death
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:42 pm
@vickyhinault: The amount of alternate endings showing the
main character dying suggests writers are doing it but the studios shut it down
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:42 pm
@TaroJ: @teenierussell not as much as Marvins :-)
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:43 pm
@ClaireYeowart: @TaroJ love Thelma and Louise but hate that
ending with FIRE BURNING RAGE! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:43 pm
@100_Day_SP: This topic is so full of spoilers. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:43 pm
@TaroJ: RT @vickyhinault: The amount of alternate endings
showing the main character dying suggests writers are doing it but the studios
shut it down #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:43 pm
@ijoda07: RT @100_Day_SP: This topic is so full of spoilers.
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:43 pm
@ijoda07: @ClaireYeowart Why? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:44 pm
@teenierussell: @vickyhinault death doesn't sell as well to
the mass audience and possibly no chance of sequel? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:45 pm
@ijoda07: @teenierussell Nah. Then you just go and do a
prequel. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:45 pm
@teenierussell: @ClaireYeowart I LOVE that ending! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:45 pm
@TaroJ: So apart from Jar Jar Binks are there any characters
you feel had they died would have improved the film #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:46 pm
@teenierussell: @100_Day_SP Sorry, should have put a spoiler
alert before every tweet #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:46 pm
@ijoda07: @TaroJ Young Anakin, Darth Maul, the guy with the
podracer.... Wld have been a better film if NONE of those characters existed.
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:47 pm
@JonStruthers: @richarddinnick How about Sixth Sense?
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:47 pm
@teenierussell: @TaroJ Bella in Twilight! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:47 pm
@ijoda07: @TaroJ Actually if none of the characters and the
MOVIE never existed. Full stop. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:47 pm
@teenierussell: @ijoda07 do you mean if they just kept the
original 3? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:48 pm
@vickyhinault: @teenierussell absolutely, and films are
escapism for many, it's more satisfying for them when there's a happy ending.
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:48 pm
@ClaireYeowart: @ijoda07 I liked the characters too much to
see them die. Personal thing, just found the end frustrating. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:48 pm
@teenierussell: @richarddinnick yes, but then they are
already dead. Love It's a Wonderful Life... #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:49 pm
@ijoda07: @teenierussell Ohhh... Technically - she dies, but
character still exists, so more transformation than "death" in this
context. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:49 pm
@TaroJ: @ijoda07 Roll on eps 7,8 & 9 :-) we can but hope
a fresh set of hands will deliver something #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:49 pm
@richarddinnick: @JonStruthers good call. sixth Sense is a
nice twist dead protagonist ending - much like The Others #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:49 pm
@teenierussell: @ClaireYeowart I did too when I watched it
1st time, then I read the script and it was the only satisfying ending
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:49 pm
@SiFoulaReel: @teenierussell @taroj Technically she has died
& now she's undead I believe Kristen's having a lot more fun in this one!
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:49 pm
@richarddinnick: @teenierussell @taroj Bella dying would
have been genius! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:50 pm
@100_Day_SP: Would Return of the Jedi have been improved had
Han Solo died? Apparently, Harrison Ford insisted that he should. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:51 pm
@teenierussell: @SiFoulaReel @ijoda07 yes, after too many
films #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:51 pm
@ijoda07: @100_Day_SP You know what? It might have. Though
pity Leia then. Imagine all the men she'd have to fend off all the time.
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:52 pm
@teenierussell: Are there any movies in which main character
dies at the end only to be resurrected in a sequel? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:53 pm
@rdlln: RT @teenierussell: Are there any movies in which
main character dies at the end only to be resurrected in a sequel? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:53 pm
@ijoda07: @ClaireYeowart I think their whole journey was
frustrating - was point of movie. 2 women trapped by
circumstances/expectations. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:54 pm
@TaroJ: @teenierussell Star Trek 3 with Spock #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:54 pm
@SiFoulaReel: @teenierussell Alien 3 to Resurrection. They
didn't feel an Alien film would work sans Weaver. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:54 pm
@richarddinnick: @teenierussell Terminator? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:55 pm
@scriptcat: Respecting a #screenwriter in a disrespectful
town http://t.co/204fsZkm #screenwriting #scriptnotes #onwriting #scriptchat
#amwriting
November 18, 2012, 8:55 pm
@TaroJ: @SiFoulaReel @teenierussell they don't know what
they are talking about Aliens v Predator requiem was a masterpiece #scriptchat
#sarcasm
November 18, 2012, 8:56 pm
@teenierussell: @richarddinnick Probably a bit of a cop out that
he's a Robot, so that's ok. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:56 pm
@ClaireYeowart: @teenierussell I think I'm just a sucker for
a happy ending:) #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:56 pm
@jaymepollock: RT @scriptcat: Respecting a #screenwriter in
a disrespectful town http://t.co/204fsZkm #screenwriting #scriptnotes
#onwriting #scriptchat #amwriting
November 18, 2012, 8:57 pm
@NamingJasonC: The end of Thelma & Louise woz moving
bcoz it felt real and the journey before that was good. And so the audience
were happy #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:58 pm
@Bang2write: @SiFoulaReel they were right about Alien 3
without Ripley. Did you read the Walter Hill draft w/ Hicks as protag?? #legasp
#scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 8:59 pm
@teenierussell: @NamingJasonC I think it was the only
option, they just stuck two fingers up to the world. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 9:00 pm
@teenierussell: And it's 9pm, #Homeland O'Clock! #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 9:01 pm
@PitchfestBob: This also happened at least once in the
Resident Evil franchise. RT @teenierussell main character resurrected in a
sequel? #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 9:01 pm
@teenierussell: Thank you all for a great chat! Next week
we'll be talking about Horror to a special guest. #scriptchat
November 18, 2012, 9:02 pm
USA CHAT:
@jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK and we're talking
"killing your protagonist"... sharpen your knives & let's have at
it!
November 19, 2012, 12:59 am
@Jamie_LD: RT @SarahAlexis4: Time for #scriptchat! Talking
about "killing your protagonist."
November 19, 2012, 1:00 am
@rdlln: Killing your protagonist ... #nowweretalking
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:00 am
@ShortofStories: RT @jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK and
we're talking "killing your protagonist"... sharpen your knives &
let's have at it!
November 19, 2012, 1:00 am
@SabinaGiado: http://t.co/PHfZQA3q Michael Arndt on story
beginnings. via @GoIntoTheStory #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:00 am
@chasffisher: It's one sure way to avoid a franchise
#killyourProtagonist #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@dwacon: I have yet to kill a protagonist... well, maybe in
a sequel...n #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@Jamie_LD: Did someone say "killing?" I'm so
there. lol #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@jeannevb: Often we protect our protagonist in our
stories... maybe we should be slicing & dicing him/her. Who has some
thoughts? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@jeannevb: hahaha RT @chasffisher: Its one sure way to avoid
a franchise #killyourProtagonist #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@art1032: Hello #scriptchat time to kill some protags
eeeeeee?
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@zacsanford2: If you follow @jamie_ld you'll see she's
always killing people left and right... I just hope she's talking about her
characters. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@RWWFilm: RT @zacsanford: Tonight on #scriptchat we'll be
talking about "killing your protagonist." Come in and join us.
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@chasffisher: Anyone got any tips on how to make killing
your protagonist SATISFYING to the audience? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@Ludovicaa: #scriptchat with just 4,800 words to go in
#nanowrimo killing my protagonist looks like an option right now
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@redonblack: New blog post: 12 lessons in Microbudget
Filmmaking from @londonswf w/ @Screenwriter12 @pitchfestbob
http://t.co/kTYVErPf #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:01 am
@SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb I think it has a lot to do with
what the protagonist's transformation and arc dictates? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:02 am
@chasffisher: SPOILER!!! For example: LOOPER. For me it was
intellectually perfect but left me cold emotionally. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:02 am
@jeannevb: @Ludovicaa get on with the murder then!
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:02 am
@art1032: @Jamie_LD We r sooo psycho lol! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:02 am
@Bigdog327: RT @Jamie_LD: Did someone say
"killing?" I'm so there. lol #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:02 am
@Ludovicaa: @jeannevb I already murdered the housekeeper
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:02 am
@FuriousDShow: @jeannevb I once spent an entire script
setting up a character as a hero, then revealed they were a killer &
knocked them off. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:02 am
@ShortofStories: #scriptchat @jeannevb perhaps the right
question is: why a character must die?
November 19, 2012, 1:03 am
@jeannevb: EURO talked the same topic, so look for their
thoughts in the transcript later. Always fun to see the foreign take.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:03 am
@chasffisher: My first script I wanted my protag to live at
the end. But as I wrote the final scene it felt so right to #killtheProtagonist
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:03 am
@zacsanford2: I tend to write comedies, so I haven't really
found a chance to kill a protagonist yet. :( #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:03 am
@Jamie_LD: @zacsanford2 So far someone dies in every story
I've written. Issues? lol #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:03 am
@chasffisher: @ShortofStories Good question, but definitely
a different decision to #killyourProtagonist #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:03 am
@writesthis: @chasffisher I think AMERICAN BEAUTY did a good
job with that #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:03 am
@srbohannon: as long as the audience cares the protagonist
dies, then worth it! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@jeannevb: Let's toss that one out there! RT
@ShortofStories: #scriptchat @jeannevb perhaps the right question is: why a
character must die?
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@chasffisher: My view is that you can #killyourProtagonist
and have it satisfying if their arc is complete. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@jeannevb: RT @FuriousDShow: @jeannevb I once spent an
entire script setting up a character as a hero, then revealed they were a
killer & knocked them off. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@Ludovicaa: RT @chasffisher: My view is that you can #killyourProtagonist
and have it satisfying if their arc is complete. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@ShortofStories: @chasffisher Don’t think so, as it is a
first step into it. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@jeannevb: totally RT @writesthis: @chasffisher I think
AMERICAN BEAUTY did a good job with that #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@chasffisher: @zacsanford2 You seen SEEKING A FRIEND FOR THE
END OF THE WORLD? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb I think genre also plays a big role
in whether the protag dying fits the story. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@Jamie_LD: @chasffisher Arc doesn't get anymore complete
than that. #killyourProtagonist #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@ericnjones: I feel that very few films/scripts have done
that successfully. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:04 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @jeannevb I think American audiences have a
bigger aversion to protags dying. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@jeannevb: If you set the story up right, killing the prot
IS a "happy ending" #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@rdlln: If you're going to wack your protag midway through
your screenplay you need another character to then carry on his torch
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@Ludovicaa: #scriptchat killing the protag can let another
character step out and take the story to another level
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@zacsanford2: @chasffisher Yep, and I thought it had a
satisfying conclusion to it all. It was the only way it could have ended.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@jeannevb: good point RT @SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb I think
genre also plays a big role in whether the protag dying fits the story.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@Jamie_LD: RT @Ludovicaa: #scriptchat killing the protag can
let another character step out and take the story to another level
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@chasffisher: @Jamie_LD Disagree. Their plot may be over but
it feels unsatisfying if they haven't learned enough to die. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@zacsanford2: Stupid happy endings... RT @WriteCoachKiki:
@jeannevb I think American audiences have a bigger aversion to protags dying.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@kellyrudnicki: RT @jeannevb: totally RT @writesthis:
@chasffisher I think AMERICAN BEAUTY did a good job with that #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@ericnjones: Kill protag & tell his story through
flashbacks after death has been done too often now after the pioneering SUNSET
BOULEVARD #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:05 am
@RWWFilm: It's all about story. If you kill your Protag, it
should be because it's the only way the story could end. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@chasffisher: @rdlln They did it well in LA CONFIDENTIAL but
arguably Jack Vincennes was not a protag, he just lead a sequence or two
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@srbohannon: what is the most successful script at killing
the main character? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @jeannevb Or the aftermath of the protag
dying. What was left unfinished? What was left in motion? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@jeannevb: @zacsanford2 I'm w you, Zac. So sick of perfectly
wrapped happy endings #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@ericnjones: But if anyone could do it, it was Billy Wilder!
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@zacsanford2: In my webseries I always wanted to kill a lead
character but the producers talked me out of it at every turn. :( #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@Ludovicaa: RT @jeannevb: @zacsanford2 I'm w you, Zac. So
sick of perfectly wrapped happy endings #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@Jamie_LD: @chasffisher Very true, but there isn't anymore
arcing after death. A bit late now. lol #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@zacsanford2: Psycho. RT @srbohannon: what is the most
successful script at killing the main character? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@ShortofStories: @srbohannon Psycho #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:06 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @zacsanford2 Isn't it true though? European
movies don't have to have happy endings like American ones do. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@chasffisher: Difference between killing any character and
killing a protag is surely the protag MUST die at the end... right? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@zacsanford2: @jeannevb But if the killing is justified, can
you consider it a happy ending with their death? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @zacsanford2 I kill off tons of characters.
:) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@paul_miller1: RT @jeannevb: WGA's top 101 scripts... most
available for download http://t.co/EppHjr3J #scriptchat #screenwriting
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@DMinformation: @srbohannon The Professional, Scarface?
#ScriptChat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@writesthis: @zacsanford2 @WriteCoachKiki @jeannevb So true
. . . #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@ShortofStories: Does killing your protagonist always mean
sacrifice? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@SarahAlexis4: @zacsanford2 I was just going to mention
psycho. First thing I thought of when I saw tonight's topic. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@zacsanford2: @WriteCoachKiki I think the "happy
ending" is a thing of using film as an escape. When one dies, it could be
a downer. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@Jamie_LD: Love, love , loved The Professional! RT
@DMinformation: @srbohannon The Professional, Scarface? #ScriptChat
November 19, 2012, 1:07 am
@jeannevb: @WriteCoachKiki @zacsanford2 it's one reason I
LOVE film festivals. Tons of foreign films w unexpected endings #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@WriteCoachKiki: I think so. RT @zacsanford2: @jeannevb But
if the killing is justified, can you consider it a happy ending with their
death? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@BrendonUdy: Gladiator nailed killing its protag, because by
that point in his arc it was right for him to die #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@RamseyNadine: RT @Screen3Twit: Never underestimate a single
change. It could make all the difference in your #screenplay. #Writing
#Screenwriting #Scriptchat #Moviemaking
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 @srbohannon Psycho just killed who
the audience THOUGHT was the main character. That's different. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@chasffisher: I think the most common reason to
#killyourProtagonist is because they have learnt value of self-sacrifice.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@WriteCoachKiki: RT @paul_miller1 RT @jeannevb: WGAs top 101
scripts..most available for download http://t.co/WA2LRyFZ #scriptchat
#screenwriting #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@DMinformation: RT @jeannevb: If you set the story up right,
killing the prot IS a "happy ending" #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@dwacon: Maybe if the protagonist returns as a ghost? �� Or, an angel? �� #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@Ludovicaa: RT @RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 @srbohannon Psycho
just killed who the audience THOUGHT was the main character. That's different.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@kiribatiwriter: Had script where protagonist died at end to
save others. All coverage I got said "great. depressing ending. This won't
sell." #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@WriteCoachKiki: RT @jeannevb: @WriteCoachKiki @zacsanford2
its one reason I LOVE film festivals. Tons of foreign films w unexpected
endings #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@jeannevb: @RockFightFilms totally. Hey, use the #scriptchat
hashtag & join in the convo or go to http://t.co/WOwR8d4B
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@chasffisher: @BrendonUdy Agree. They also did it really
well in - SPOILER - LADY IN BLACK. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:08 am
@Jamie_LD: @chasffisher Have you ever seen a movie where you
think the writer chickened out? Because protag should have died? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@thinfilms: #scriptchat so this killing off the protag -
what is one of the most unusual uses of this to date?
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @jeannevb I love lots of the European
films. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@zacsanford2: @RWWFilm But she was the main character up
until the point she was killed. It changed the game when it was release
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@RWWFilm: @WriteCoachKiki @zacsanford2 @jeannevb A
"happy" ending & a satisfying one are two different things imo
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@Screenwriter12: RT @SabinaGiado: http://t.co/1y6duX29
Michael Arndt on story beginnings. via @GoIntoTheStory #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@Ludovicaa: RT @zacsanford2: @RWWFilm But she was the main
character up until the point she was killed. It changed the game when it was
release #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@ericnjones: Filmgoers were totally disoriented when Marion
Crane died in that shower! We thought she was the protag! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@MacBullitt: @rdlln That's an interesting point, and the
film I'm thinking of, even though it's old, could be a Spoiler.#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@dwacon: @kiribatiwriter Try rewriting it for an Asian
producer. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@zacsanford2: @chasffisher You're just the king of spoilers
tonight, aren't you? :) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@paul_miller1: @jeannevb @zacsanford2 Hustle w/ Reynolds -
bombed at BO bc he dies at end word got out & nobody went. More room now to
kill off #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@DMinformation: @Jamie_LD @srbohannon The Professional was
amazing... Working on a similar project. #ScriptChat
November 19, 2012, 1:09 am
@chasffisher: @zacsanford2 Agreed. She was a protag until
her death. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:10 am
@art1032: Steel Magnolias- Shelby had to die,wasn't that 1
based on true events as well,can't remember:) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:10 am
@goforlocation: RT @elizabethkarr: Excited about visit to my
old stomping ground #NYC for RADIO FREE ALBEMUTH @PhilipKDickFest @rfamovie DEC
7! Who's coming? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:10 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 I don't know. I view it differently.
That's like saying Drew was the main character of Scream until she died.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:10 am
@Chief_Sherrick: “@BrendonUdy Gladiator nailed killing its
protag, because by that point in his arc it was right for him to die
#scriptchat”
November 19, 2012, 1:10 am
@chasffisher: If you #killyourProtagonist at any point
before the end of the film, you will need a new protag and a new plot engine to
finish #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:10 am
@WriteCoachKiki: Agreed.RT @RWWFilm @WriteCoachKiki
@zacsanford2 @jeannevb A "happy" ending & a satisfying 1 are 2
different things imo #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:11 am
@zacsanford2: I agree with you. But commercially happy
sells. RT @RWWFilm A "happy" ending & a satisfying one are two
different things imo #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:11 am
@ShortofStories: And there are movies which do it wrong,
like SPOILER I am Legend #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:11 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @Chief_Sherrick @BendonUdy I always get
depressed when they kill Russell Crowe off. Arc Shmark #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:11 am
@DMinformation: I Am Legend was a good film where the protag
died at the end to save others. #ScriptChat
November 19, 2012, 1:11 am
@zacsanford2: @RWWFilm Horror is different considering
someone always dies in the beginning. I guess you can call Psycho a horror
film. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:11 am
@RWWFilm: RT @chasffisher: If you #killyourProtagonist at
any point before the end of the film, you will need a new protag and a new plot
engine to finish #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:11 am
@rdlln: Benjamin Button could only end w/ protag dying
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:11 am
@ShortofStories: @chasffisher This reminds me of Deliverance
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@MatchesMalone: I think you can only kill the protag if
you're writing a tragedy... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@Dave_Bullis: Agreed. RT @dwacon: @kiribatiwriter Try
rewriting it for an Asian producer. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@jeannevb: I am suddenly in the mood for a knife fight.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @zacsanford2 @RWWFilm Hard enough to get
audiences into the theater. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@SarahAlexis4: Thelma & Louise comes to mind... the dual
protagonists die. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@zacsanford2: So what must a writer do in order to make a
justified argument to #KillYourProtagonist? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@MBDymension: RT @jeannevb: WGA's top 101 scripts... most
available for download http://t.co/EppHjr3J #scriptchat #screenwriting
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@_iamryanmoore: @jeannevb True, but a few counters: Seven,
Cold Mountain, Mystic River. Should we weigh risk of polarizing audience or no?
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@BrendonUdy: Titanic got away with it because it had 2
protags. But again, Jack's death was timed perfectly for the story. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@Ludovicaa: Nooooo RT @MatchesMalone: I think you can only
kill the protag if you're writing a tragedy... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 Absolutely. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@jeannevb: I hated that film. The short story was SO much
better RT @rdlln: Benjamin Button could only end w/ protag dying #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@ShortofStories: @DMinformation Yet, was the movie driving
into it? Was it the last resource? In the “original” ending it goes the other
way… #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@WriteCoachKiki: Ulp. At least it wasn't me this time. RT
@jeannevb: I am suddenly in the mood for a knife fight. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:12 am
@WriteCoachKiki: Yes! RT @SarahAlexis4: Thelma & Louise
comes to mind... the dual protagonists die. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@ShortofStories: RT @zacsanford2: So what must a writer do
in order to make a justified argument to #KillYourProtagonist? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@jeannevb: @WriteCoachKiki :) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@MatchesMalone: @BrendonUdy Titanic gave away the ending 40
minutes in.... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@richmagahiz: Who was *the* protagonist in Reservoir Dogs?
#ScriptChat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@Screenwriter12: Mel Gibson's character died in 'Braveheart'
too. Another example of killing your protagonist. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 self-sacrifice always works well to
justify and keep an audience happier. Giving their life for the greater good.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@ShortofStories: @zacsanford2 you got the point: what
justifies the protagonist’s death? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@chasffisher: @zacsanford2 @RWWFilm Psycho is definitely
different to Scream. She dies much later in the film after having driven the
plot #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@MatchesMalone: @Ludovicaa That's the definition, actually.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:13 am
@MatchesMalone: @Screenwriter12 He died heroically.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:14 am
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb @rdlln It was Forrest Gump Redux
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:14 am
@jeannevb: great flick RT @Screenwriter12: Mel Gibsons
character died in Braveheart too. Another example of killing your protagonist.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:14 am
@chasffisher: @RWWFilm @zacsanford2 Agree to an extent but
as I said before, LOOPER didn't do it for me. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:14 am
@art1032: Loved Thelma and Louise:) @WriteCoachKiki
@SarahAlexis4 #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:14 am
@Screenwriter12: Great example with 'Thelma & Louise'
@SarahAlexis4 #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:14 am
@writesthis: @zacsanford2 @RWWFilm In horror, you can kill
every character and the crowd will love it, lol! #CabinintheWoods #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@jeannevb: @AlexisAdkins Requiem for a Dream was awesome!
#sofuckedup @WriteCoachKiki @RWWFilm @zacsanford2 #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@velk: happens in The Patriot too @Screenwriter12
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@chasffisher: I think films where the protag must die for
the cause they are pursuing pull it off #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@ShortofStories: @jeannevb @Screenwriter12 However, we’re
all expecting these “sacrifice” deaths. Those are common place. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@BrendonUdy: @zacsanford2 I think they need a cause worth
dying for, or they must do something that death alone will redeem them for
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@RWWFilm: @chasffisher @zacsanford2 Yes, she dies later -
but the purpose of the death is the same. To mislead the audience. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@richmagahiz: @MatchesMalone Oedipus didn't die at the end
of Oedipus Rex #ScriptChat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@zacsanford2: @chasffisher With Looper I felt it was
justified. It was the only way to truly stop the cycle... hopefully.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@Leemanrhymes: It's very hard to kill your protagonist well.
We set obstacles for them to overcome, not to beat themn #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@ericnjones: @chasffisher @zacsanford2 @RWWFilm Hitchcock
definitely intended to disorient his audience by killing off Marion Crane
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@SPCwrite: RT @MatchesMalone: I think you can only kill the
protag if you're writing a tragedy... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@ShortofStories: Doesn’t Mel Gibson die at the end of The
Patriot as well? Then you have Last of the Mohicans #scriptchat And there we
go.
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@_iamryanmoore: Nodding my head RT"@Jamie_LD: Love,
love , loved The Professional! RT @DMinformation: @srbohannon The Professional,
Scarface? #ScriptChat"
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@RWWFilm: @chasffisher @zacsanford2 See I thought Looper
worked. I really enjoyed it. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:15 am
@chasffisher: @jeannevb @Screenwriter12 BRAVEHEART great
example. They pulled it off by having Wallace looking forward to death.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:16 am
@velk: And lets not forget Armageddon #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:16 am
@chasffisher: @zacsanford2 Justified plotwise. Just didn't
feel the emotional engagement or satisfaction. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:16 am
@zacsanford2: So a lot of discussion on
"sacrifice" being the main way to #KillYourProtagonist. What about
those times when they don't? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:16 am
@GREGBIELA: Citizen Kane? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:16 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 @chasffisher It didn't definitely
stop the cycle - but it was the only play that young Joe had left to make.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@rdlln: One of scripts on this year's @TheBloodList ends w/
protag dying - perfect ending ... sadly will probably be changed #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@thinfilms: Dennis Hopper's character did not die in
#EasyRider #scriptchat so technically there could be a sequel according to
#fishingwithjohn
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@chasffisher: @zacsanford2 Great question. When you want to
pull the rug out from under your audience? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@ShortofStories: @zacsanford2 American Beauty is all about
irony, isn’t it? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@_iamryanmoore: This is absolutely true
RT"@WriteCoachKiki: @jeannevb I think American audiences have a bigger
aversion to protags dying. #scriptchat"
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@jeannevb: @zacsanford2 thank god you're here, Zac. I'm
still cleaning my office & I blame @jamie_ld ;) #firstduderocks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@RWWFilm: @chasffisher @jeannevb @Screenwriter12 By having
his death have meaning. Not just a cheap trick - it served a STORY purpose.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@WriteCoachKiki: MT @zacsanford2 So a lot of discussion on
"sacrifice" being the main way to #KillYourProtagonist. What about
times they don't? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:17 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @GREGBIELA He starts out dead - there are
those. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@zacsanford2: RT @chasffisher: @zacsanford2 Great question.
When you want to pull the rug out from under your audience? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@Jamie_LD: @jeannevb Hehehehe @zacsanford2 #firstduderocks
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@zacsanford2: @jeannevb Yet I'm only here for another 10
minutes or so... Industry Poker night. Gotta make some money. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@SarahAlexis4: Historical/biographical based movies like
Milk often include the ultimate death of the protagonist. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@Leemanrhymes: Samuel L Jackson in Deep Blue Sea was a
shockn #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@zacsanford2: RT @ShortofStories: @zacsanford2 American
Beauty is all about irony, isn’t it? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @_iamryanmoore I know. Different mentality.
More comfortable with conversations about death. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@BrendonUdy: @zacsanford2 With Gladiator it was more that he
had to achieve his need and then he was allowed to die. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:18 am
@jeannevb: @Jamie_LD seriously, I can't stop! haha
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@chasffisher: THE SHINING did an amazing job by switching
the protag to being an antag. Made the death sublimely satisfying too!
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @zacsanford2 Have fun! Make some moneh!!!
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@jeannevb: @zacsanford2 damn...I'll keep multitasking until
then #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@RWWFilm: @BrendonUdy @zacsanford2 Death was his reward in
Gladiator - his reunion w/ his wife and child. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@zacsanford2: @jeannevb @Jamie_LD I need to clean my desk
this week before the extended break. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@dwacon: @Leemanrhymes I am sure that shark got
indigestion... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@SarahAlexis4: @chasffisher Yes, great example. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@jeannevb: RT @chasffisher: THE SHINING did an amazing job
by switching protag to being an antag. Made the death sublimely satisfying too!
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:19 am
@MatchesMalone: @zacsanford2 WHere? Deal me in!!!
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@zacsanford2: Good point. RT @RWWFilm: @BrendonUdy
@zacsanford2 Death was his reward in Gladiator - his reunion w/ his wife and
child. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@chasffisher: @SarahAlexis4 Usually because they died in
reality :P And they died FOR something (also BRAVEHEART) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@ShortofStories: @chasffisher so true about The Shining
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@WriteCoachKiki: Sigh. RT @RWWFilm: @BrendonUdy @zacsanford2
Death was his reward in Gladiator - his reunion w/ his wife and child.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@jeannevb: @chasffisher finally watched THE SHINING w my
teens. They loved it #breedingcrazies #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@BrendonUdy: @zacsanford2 So I think there are times where
the protag wants to die at the start of the film, but their need won't allow it
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@rdlln: Don't you always want to pull the rug out? At least
a couple of times throughout your script? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@Screenwriter12: I loved the ending of 'Open Water' when the
female protagonist sinks beneath the water, as if offering herself to the
sharks. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@RWWFilm: RT @BrendonUdy: @zacsanford2 So I think there are
times where the protag wants to die at the start of the film, but their need
won't allow it #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@writesthis: Most audiences love to see bad guys suffer at
the end, for instance TO DIE FOR. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@SarahAlexis4: @Screenwriter12 thanks! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:20 am
@zacsanford2: @MatchesMalone Private game. I'm not at the
level to invite people in yet. A year long tourney. Currently sitting in 9th
place. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@ShortofStories: Is The Green Mile on the subject of
Sacrifice as well? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@laurayntema: Boyz in the hood was a satisfying ending bc
that world generally doesn't have "happy endings" #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@chasffisher: So far: can #killyourProtagonist for 1
sacrifice 2 belief 3 rug pulling... any others? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@velk: The Sixth Sense—though it didn't have the same
immediate effect as other examples. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@WriteCoachKiki: RT @jeannevb: @AlexisAdkins Requiem for a
Dream was awesome! #sofuckedup @WriteCoachKiki @RWWFilm @zacsanford2
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@zacsanford2: Besides #KillingYourProtagonist you constantly
need to keep them in danger, for when they do die, it feels justified.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@jeannevb: I can't remember the name of it, an indie film
about a guy who wanted to kill himself. Friends tried to stop him. In end he
did. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@RWWFilm: Going back to the sacrifice theme - we can't
forget Titanic. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:21 am
@chasffisher: Here's a thought: anti-heroes can often die
satisfyingly if they die in redemption (as in film noir) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @AlexisAdkins @RWWFilm @zacsanford2
@jeannevb Oh yes. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@Screenwriter12: Endings where protagonists die seem to be
about sacrifice for a greater good, or because their death is the best
solution. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@zacsanford2: @jeannevb Isn't that about 75% of indie
films??? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@MatchesMalone: @zacsanford2 Nice.... What's the prize? Seat
at WSOP? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@CaseyCharleswor: @jeannevb Children of Men sacrifice at the
end is superb. All for the greater goal. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@chasffisher: @jeannevb An AMAZING Spanish film called the
SEA INSIDE with Javier Bardem. Mesmerising. Again, died FOR something
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@ShortofStories: @zacsanford2 is it danger the right world?
could you illustrate? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@zacsanford2: @chasffisher I have a hard time buying Titanic
sacrifice... they both could have fit on the wood. :) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@SarahAlexis4: @chasffisher Of course! But it's interesting
to see how even though the death's inevitable it still usually builds to big
impact #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@jeannevb: haha RT @zacsanford2: @jeannevb Isnt that about
75% of indie films??? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:22 am
@velk: RT @CaseyCharleswor: @jeannevb Children of Men
sacrifice at the end is superb. All for the greater goal. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:23 am
@jeannevb: @CaseyCharleswor good one #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:23 am
@chasffisher: @CaseyCharleswor Also great arc: world's most
resigned man ends up dying for the world. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:23 am
@zacsanford2: @MatchesMalone Weekly prizes and part of the
weekly money is held where only the top 10 play for free at the end of the
year. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:23 am
@lizzayn: Has anyone mentioned The Departed yet? #KillEmAll
#scriptchat great job of making us care for many characters only to snuff them.
November 19, 2012, 1:23 am
@chasffisher: @zacsanford2 Agreed. And she makes that stupid
sound as if she drops him by accident. "Oops!" #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:23 am
@zacsanford2: @ShortofStories danger: life or death. Losing
what you set out for your character to achieve. Of course dependent on genre.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:23 am
@MatchesMalone: @zacsanford2 Still cool. What's the buy in?
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:23 am
@ShortofStories: There is no way “death is the best
solution” is a reasonable answer. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@chasffisher: @lizzayn Or any Korean gangster film?
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @zacsanford2 @chasffisher That was for the
romance of it all - #ohthedrama #ohthetears #ohtheboxoffice #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@art1032: @Screenwriter12 Yes there was an old movie Night
Mother,Sissy Spacek thought ending her life was best,and she did.#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@rdlln: RT @lizzayn: Has anyone mentioned The Departed yet?
#KillEmAll #scriptchat great job of making us care for many characters only to
snuff them.
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@zacsanford2: Any other recs on movies that
#KillYourProtagonist other than #AmericanBeauty? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@BrendonUdy: @chasffisher Plot device, a la Sixth Sense. But
I guess that's rug pulling. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@chasffisher: @lizzayn Did anyone find THE DEPARTED deaths
too brutal a rug-pull? Left me kind of lost at the end of the film...
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@ShortofStories: @zacsanford2 because i believe in the
opposite, if we’re expecting the death, we cheer and feel fulfilled by the
surviving. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:24 am
@WriteCoachKiki: Yes! MT @lizzayn: The Departed? #KillEmAll
#scriptchat great job of making us care for many characters only to snuff them.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@chasffisher: @BrendonUdy The biggest ever :P #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@RWWFilm: @chasffisher @CaseyCharleswor I love Children of
Men. Totally under recognized. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@Leemanrhymes: The Usual Suspects kinda had the protagonist
dying without it being a sacrifice or for the greater goodn #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@zacsanford2: @chasffisher It made her too selfish in my
opinion. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@jeannevb: @chasffisher didn't he die in Biutiful too?
#scriptchat #lovedthatfilm
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@zacsanford2: Meant to ask is there any other comedy films
that kill the protag other than #AmericanBeauty. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@chasffisher: Cursed characters can die in redemption (not
necessarily sacrifice): DRACULA, werewolves, hardboiled detectives, etc
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@ericnjones: Killing off the protagonist is an anomaly. It
doesn't conform to the audience's expectations & their sense of right &
wrong #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:25 am
@Ludovicaa: I'm kind of bummed out that people think of
death as having to ba tragedy #scriptchat it can also be a triumph or even
funny #outsidethebox
November 19, 2012, 1:26 am
@zacsanford2: RT @ShortofStories: because i believe in the
opposite, if we expect the death, we cheer and feel fulfilled by the surviving.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:26 am
@jeannevb: I agree. I wld have moved over. RT @zacsanford2:
@chasffisher It made her too selfish in my opinion. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:26 am
@chasffisher: @Leemanrhymes But you were never sure what
actually happened until the end of the film. And was he a protag? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:26 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 You could say Usual Suspects does it
to a degree. Keaton is positioned as the portag throughout most of the flick.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:26 am
@jeannevb: @zacsanford2 Weekend at Bernies hahaha #jk
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:26 am
@lizzayn: @chasffisher yes! Reservoir Dogs/City on Fire type
films that build a character up only to take them out #scriptchat great writing
November 19, 2012, 1:26 am
@_iamryanmoore: @WriteCoachKiki Can't recall a specific
example, but studios have ordered re-shoots after test audiences hated protag
dying #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:26 am
@zacsanford2: @jeannevb @chasffisher the entitled vs. the
99%. :) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:27 am
@SarahAlexis4: Million Dollar Baby is another one. Man On
Fire really got me. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:27 am
@chasffisher: @SarahAlexis4 Agreed, but in biopics, the
death is only included if it comments on the theme of the life/story.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:27 am
@George_Haines: #Scriptchat Is it possible to kill the role
of protagonist?
November 19, 2012, 1:27 am
@Screenwriter12: @Leemanrhymes Agreed. 'The Usual Suspects'
was not about the greater good, but it was the best solution for those
characters. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:27 am
@zacsanford2: @_iamryanmoore @WriteCoachKiki the testing
process has killed a many wonderful endings and comedies. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:27 am
@writesthis: @zacsanford2 It's a horror-comedy, but a indie
film THE COTTAGE does that. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:27 am
@Leemanrhymes: @chasffisher I think he became the
protagonist in the end. Tough to say #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:27 am
@jeannevb: @SarahAlexis4 I haven't seen Man on Fire yet
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:28 am
@WriteCoachKiki: @_iamryanmoore I've heard that. Sometimes I
pretend they lived. Hey, it's my imagination - I can do what I want.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:28 am
@alli_and_that: @chasffisher Because you don't know what
else to do with them. #scriptchat #lazywriting
November 19, 2012, 1:28 am
@lizzayn: @chasffisher oops, City on Fire is Chinese.
#scriptchat but those are good too. Asian gangster films in general are good at
it
November 19, 2012, 1:28 am
@WriteCoachKiki: RT @zacsanford2: @_iamryanmoore
@WriteCoachKiki the testing process has killed a many wonderful endings and
comedies. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:28 am
@Jamie_LD: MDB, yes. RT @SarahAlexis4: Million Dollar Baby
is another one. Man On Fire really got me. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:28 am
@chasffisher: @Leemanrhymes He only ever drives the plot for
one or two sequences. And Verbal has VO all the way through. Never much doubt
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:28 am
@SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb Oh, no. Sorry! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:28 am
@Leemanrhymes: I just worked on a film over the summer where
the the protagonists die #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@zacsanford2: So as long as your death is justified, you
care for the main character, and it relates to the themes, it is okay to kill
'em? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@BrendonUdy: @zacsanford2 Shaun of the Dead, sortof. Though
he wasn't the protag, just a main char. Good question... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@chasffisher: Damn #scriptchat for distracting me from
#screenwriting :P #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@Ludovicaa: @Morbid_Undead add #scriptchat tag.. share:)
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@jeannevb: @SarahAlexis4 haha I wasn't saying you spoiled
it. I'm now curious to see it :) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 Most true comedies only deal in
metaphorical death - the ass who becomes a good guy. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@WriteOnOnline: Writers, please post your goals for the
week! http://t.co/RzK4cCcn #writeon #scriptchat #140conf
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@Morbid_Undead: @Ludovicaa I find it particularly touching
when the protagonist sacrifices themselves to save another. Sad but also
beautiful. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@Screenwriter12: As writers, we have to push our characters
and try various scenarios to make sure our endings are authentic and fresh.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@zacsanford2: RT @RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 Most true comedies
only deal in metaphorical death - the ass who becomes a good guy. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:29 am
@jeannevb: This IS writing... just in a diff't way :)
#rationalization RT @chasffisher Damn #scriptchat for distracting me fr
screenwriting #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@George_Haines: #Scriptchat Anyone mention Leaving Las
Vegas?
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@Morbid_Undead: @Ludovicaa Then there are stories like the
movie Ghost when the protag dies very early on, but continues to feature in the
film #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 I vote yes. As long as it is earned
and feels right for the story. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@ShortofStories: There’s this thing about movies that
properly execute the sacrifice” in the final.The stakes of its second act
increase linearly#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@chasffisher: @BrendonUdy @zacsanford2 Disagree. Ed was
neither a protag nor main character. Ed has no arc at all. He is Shaun's
antagonist. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@MBDymension: It's been a while. I've been really focused on
getting this screenplay done. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@ShortofStories: by that i mean it is like: 1 lion, 2 lions,
3 lions. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@jeannevb: @Screenwriter12 and YOU know endings. BELOW ZERO
was an awesome one! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@Ludovicaa: RT @Morbid_Undead: @Ludovicaa Then there are
stories like the movie Ghost when the protag dies very early on, but continues
to feature in the film #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@Leemanrhymes: @chasffisher I always thought of verbal as
the story teller, not the protagonist. Keaton was the leader.n #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:30 am
@zacsanford2: Have to head out early. Talk amongst
yourselves. I hate to self-promote here, but here comes a tweet from my main
account. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:31 am
@ShortofStories: You kill your main character because
there’s no way for the stakes to keep going higher #scriptchat Gladiator feels
like that.
November 19, 2012, 1:31 am
@RWWFilm: @zacsanford2 And it's not a true comedy I suppose
- but Man on the Moon killed off Andy #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:31 am
@BrendonUdy: @chasffisher Yeah, it would have been amusing
if Shaun died. Not good for story though. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@ericnjones: Is killing the protagonist EVER advised for
budding/unrepped screenwriters writing on spec? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@zacsanford: Get development notes and other perks and help
out an #indiefilm at the same time. http://t.co/a9lu5ZYG … Help @WaveGoodbye
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@Screenwriter12: Thanks! @jeannevb Writing BZ was indulgent,
but it also taught me to really push my characters into corners. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@gaffneyfilm: RT @franklinleonard: Wouldn't it be great if
@GoIntoTheStory hit 10K followers tonight during #scriptchat. He's close. Also
his #scriptchat is amazing.
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@gaffneyfilm: RT @theblcklst: Wouldn't it be great if @GoIntoTheStory
hit 10K followers during #scriptchat tonight? He's almost there. Also his
#scriptchat is amazing.
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb I know! It's a great movie, you
should watch it when you can. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@art1032: RT @zacsanford: Get development notes and other
perks and help out an #indiefilm at the same time. http://t.co/a9lu5ZYG … Help
@WaveGoodbye #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@jeannevb: I was just going to ask this! RT @ericnjones: Is
killing prot EVER advised for budding/unrepped screenwriters writing on spec?
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:32 am
@RWWFilm: How about films where it feel like the protag WILL
die, but the rug pull is that they live. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@BrionyKidd: Protag's death ideal for a touch of nihilism
SUNSET BOULEVARD,HAUNTING OF JULIA—or politicised tragedy GALLIPOLI,
THELMA& LOUISE #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@BrendonUdy: I watched Cujo recently, by the end I felt Cujo
was the protag. He deserved to live. More than the mum and child anyway
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@ericnjones: Isn't it one of those unwritten rules that only
the pros should venture to kill off their main protags? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@scriptchat: RT @zacsanford: Get development notes and other
perks and help out an #indiefilm at the same time. http://t.co/a9lu5ZYG … Help
@WaveGoodbye #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@jeannevb: RT @zacsanford: Get development notes and other
perks and help out an #indiefilm at the same time. http://t.co/a9lu5ZYG … Help
@WaveGoodbye #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@writesthis: @jeannevb @SarahAlexis4 So long since I've
watched it, forgot the ending. Am with Jeanne on this. Have to rewatch. Good
example! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@WithTimFerguson: Wanna get funny? Try this:
https://t.co/zZjtEVtl #Writer #Comedy # Scriptchat #Media
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@WriteCoachKiki: MT @zacsanford: Get development notes +
other perks, help out an #indiefilm at same time. http://t.co/uOmUCAdg Help
@WaveGoodbye #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@jeannevb: @Screenwriter12 I'm still bowing to your
greatness #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@Ludovicaa: @jeannevb #scriptchat.. surely that depends on
the quality of the writing.. or is that hopelessly naive?
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@zacsanford2: Not necessarily. RT @ericnjones: Is killing the
protagonist EVER advised for budding/unrepped screenwriters writing on spec?
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@Leemanrhymes: I guess Saw killed off the protagonists in a
unique wayn #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:33 am
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb @ericnjones I'd say no. It's one of
those rules you have to have a career before you can break it #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:34 am
@ericnjones: @jeannevb writers writing on spec must watch
out for so many things and that may alienate a reader already looking for flaws
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:34 am
@scott_logie: Examples of killing off protagonists, spoiler
alert, Oscar winners American Beauty and No Country For Old Men. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:34 am
@chasffisher: @mindtheink Very good example. It also turns
Ethan Hawke into a very clear protagonist for the final sequence. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:34 am
@zacsanford2: @ericnjones It hurts your commercial prospects
by killing your protag, but all readers want is a well-told relatable story.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:34 am
@proteanfunk: RT @WithTimFerguson: Wanna get funny? Try
this: https://t.co/zZjtEVtl #Writer #Comedy # Scriptchat #Media
November 19, 2012, 1:34 am
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb @ericnjones Obviously it's all dependent
on your skills. If you come at HW like Tarantino or Shane Black-go for it! :)
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:35 am
@ShortofStories: @scott_logie don’t know if No Country
counts.. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:35 am
@zacsanford2: Have a good night all. Keep the chat going
strong so I have a great rest of the transcript to read. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:35 am
@ericnjones: @jeannevb I find that readers in general like
more upbeat material & someone trying to get his foot in the door should
watch out #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:35 am
@Screenwriter12: @RWWFilm @jeannevb @ericnjones I say yes.
Write material that is fresh & unexpected. Kill your protag if right for
your story. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:35 am
@jeannevb: @ericnjones @rwwfilm @Ludovicaa but I think if we
unrepped writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand out #takerisks
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:35 am
@insipidduck: RT @WithTimFerguson: Wanna get funny? Try
this: https://t.co/zZjtEVtl #Writer #Comedy # Scriptchat #Media
November 19, 2012, 1:35 am
@Ludovicaa: RT @jeannevb: @ericnjones @rwwfilm @Ludovicaa
but I think if we unrepped writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand
out #takerisks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:36 am
@jeannevb: @zacsanford2 thanks so much, Zac! Go bleed your
buddies of their money! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:36 am
@Screenwriter12: @zacsanford2 You can watch 'Sister Wives'
and do Scriptchat at the same time, you know. ;) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:36 am
@zacsanford2: This. RT @jeannevb: but I think if we unrepped
writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand out #takerisks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:36 am
@chasffisher: @ShortofStories Sure does. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:36 am
@RWWFilm: @Screenwriter12 @jeannevb @ericnjones That's what
it boils down to. If it has to happen for your story to be told. Then do it.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:37 am
@jeannevb: HAHA RT @Screenwriter12: @zacsanford2 You can
watch Sister Wives and do Scriptchat at the same time, you know. ;) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:37 am
@chasffisher: RT @RWWFilm: It's all about story. If you kill
your Protag, it should be because it's the only way the story could end.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:37 am
@ShortofStories: If the death of your protagonist is an
expected outcome, then it is the wrong conclusion. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:37 am
@Screenwriter12: RT @zacsanford2: @ericnjones It hurts your
commercial prospects by killing your protag, but all readers want is a
well-told relatable story. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:37 am
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb @ericnjones @Ludovicaa Very true. I think
we can fall back within the lines due to insecurity about our talent.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:37 am
@Screenwriter12: RT @zacsanford2: This. RT @jeannevb: but I
think if we unrepped writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand out
#takerisks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:37 am
@chasffisher: @ShortofStories Not necessarily. ARGO finished
as everyone expected. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:37 am
@jeannevb: How many of you have written a script where you
backed off of killing your prot? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:38 am
@scriptmag: RT @zacsanford2: This. RT @jeannevb: but I think
if we unrepped writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand out
#takerisks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:38 am
@_iamryanmoore: @jeannevb Didn't Jake Gyllenhall die at the
end of The Good Girl? Can't remember. Another example is Virgin Suicides.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:38 am
@laurayntema: Similar, related question- do we always have
to have a dramatic ending? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:38 am
@Ludovicaa: #scriptchat phew thank goodness. personally feel
like writers should be writing the script , not writing TO a script
November 19, 2012, 1:39 am
@chasffisher: @RWWFilm @jeannevb @ericnjones @Ludovicaa What
attracts attention/gets bought will be very different to what gets made
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:39 am
@ericnjones: @RWWFilm @jeannevb I agree. Too risky unless
it's REALLY necessary somehow and there's a glimmer of hope that transcends
death #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:39 am
@ShortofStories: @chasffisher That’s mostly about tone, if
No Country counts, then it is another example. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:39 am
@RWWFilm: @chasffisher @ShortofStories Depending on your
knowledge of history - so did Braveheart - Michael Collins - Bonnie & Clyde
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:39 am
@amgamble: I'm working on an ensemble thing now deciding who
might die. Some chars have an arc = learn to live = death is easy. @jeannevb
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:39 am
@writesthis: True! RT: @jeannevb but I think if we unrepped
writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand out #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:39 am
@chasffisher: @jeannevb I wrote a script where the
characters forced me into it. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:39 am
@Leemanrhymes: I think if it's easier to kill off you prot
than letting them live you shouldn't do it #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@RWWFilm: @chasffisher @jeannevb @ericnjones @Ludovicaa The
"we love it, but does he HAVE to die" convo #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@_iamryanmoore: RT @zacsanford2: RT @chasffisher:
@zacsanford2 Great question. When you want to pull the rug out from under your
audience? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@ericnjones: @Screenwriter12 @RWWFilm @jeannevb Lucy
@Bang2write was looking for new scripts by unrepped writers #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@SarahAlexis4: It's interesting when adaptations stray from
the source material in terms of killing off or not killing off characters.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@zanzaboonda: #scriptchat I killed off my prot at the end of
my last one. People didn't seem to like that. :/
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@BrendonUdy: RT @chasffisher: @jeannevb I wrote a script
where the characters forced me into it. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@chasffisher: Thanks for the thoughts everyone! Must get
back to writing! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@ShortofStories: @RWWFilm @chasffisher Perhaps
Bonnie&Clyde falls into the “raising stakes, no choice” situation i’ve used
earlier #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:40 am
@MyBrainHurts: @jeannevb I'm driving my latest Protag
insane. Not quite killing her off, but she is going nuts. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:41 am
@BrionyKidd: @jeannevb Yes. I love nihilistic
horror/supernatural stories, but backed off from total bleakness in mine. One
day I'll do it. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:41 am
@art1032: @jeannevb One Im messing w/ I was gonna kill him
then decided to make him crazy instead lol:) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:41 am
@Ludovicaa: #scriptchat LOL Marley and me... ;)
November 19, 2012, 1:41 am
@ericnjones: @Screenwriter12 @RWWFilm @jeannevb She pointed
out that she wasn't interested in downers of any kind. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:41 am
@jeannevb: @amgamble cool #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:41 am
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb Its just as dangerous to color outside
of the lines if only reason is because its outside of the lines #StoryMatters
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:41 am
@jeannevb: I always blame tequila ;) RT @chasffisher:
@jeannevb I wrote a script where the characters forced me into it. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@bachbunny: RT @zacsanford2: This. RT @jeannevb: but I think
if we unrepped writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand out
#takerisks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@goodfilm: RT @jeannevb: RT @chasffisher: THE SHINING did an
amazing job by switching protag to being an antag. Made the death sublimely
satisfying too! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@SarahAlexis4: @chasffisher Nice chatting with you! bye.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@BrendonUdy: @jeannevb I did the opposite. Mainly because I
stuffed up my midpoint, so I had no choice to kill him. Rewrite fixed that.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@ericnjones: @Screenwriter12 @RWWFilm @jeannevb Many
readers/prodcos/agents feel the same way she does I guess. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@thinkhollywood: RT @zacsanford2: This. RT @jeannevb: but I
think if we unrepped writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand out
#takerisks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@George_Haines: @MyBrainHurts Those are my favorite. Descent
into madness. #Scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@jeannevb: welcome to my life! RT @MyBrainHurts: @jeannevb
I'm driving my Protag insane. Not quite killing her off, but she is going nuts.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@nevermindthat: @jeannevb Third Star? Great indie Brit flick
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:42 am
@Screenwriter12: @ericnjones @RWWFilm @jeannevb Lucy is
pretty cool - met her in London at LSF. She's writing a book on thrillers too.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:43 am
@RWWFilm: @SarahAlexis4 Doesn't the son live in the book
version of The Mist? That was a HUGE decision for Darabont. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:43 am
@Ludovicaa: RT @Morbid_Undead: @Ludovicaa But yeah. I'm
always killing my protagonist. I like writing ghost stories :) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:43 am
@ericnjones: @jeannevb @RWWFilm @Ludovicaa True But could an
new writer submit a script like RABBIT HOLE, a story about grief & a dead
child? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:43 am
@RWWFilm: @Screenwriter12 @ericnjones @jeannevb Lucy is
great! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:44 am
@BrendonUdy: What's the best way you've ever seen / read a
protag be killed off? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:44 am
@ShortofStories: What about a more open protagonist’s death?
Like Herzog’s Aguirre? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:44 am
@jeannevb: @KikibirdHinlo @art1032 @BrionyKidd I forgot what
I was going to say haha #longday #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:44 am
@Bethany_Mazza: RT @WithTimFerguson: Wanna get funny? Try
this: https://t.co/zZjtEVtl #Writer #Comedy # Scriptchat #Media
November 19, 2012, 1:44 am
@jeannevb: agree RT @RWWFilm: @jeannevb just as dangerous to
color outside of lines if only reason is bc its outside of lines #StoryMatters
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:44 am
@WriteCoachKiki: Keeps happening to me. :) RT @jeannevb:
@KikibirdHinlo @art1032 @BrionyKidd I forgot what I was going to say haha
#longday #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:45 am
@ericnjones: @jeannevb @RWWFilm @Ludovicaa Navigating that
fine line between risky & safe & trying to please readers is very
difficult #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:45 am
@jeannevb: we love @Bang2write! RT @RWWFilm: @Screenwriter12
@ericnjones @jeannevb Lucy is great! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:45 am
@princess_scribe: @RWWFilm @RWWFilm *butts in* An abstract
ending. The father, son & girl are in the car, driving thru the Mist.
@SarahAlexis4 #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:45 am
@wcmartell: I've killed protags before - it's fun!
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:45 am
@RWWFilm: @ericnjones @jeannevb @Ludovicaa That's the fun of
the challenge, man! :) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:45 am
@princess_scribe: @RWWFilm They hear two words on the radio:
"Hartford" and "Hope" @SarahAlexis4 #scriptchat
#whydoIknowthisstuff
November 19, 2012, 1:46 am
@Ludovicaa: @ericnjones If it was good enough, why not?
#scriptchat agree that it shouldnt be mindless waste of life needs to make
sense in the story
November 19, 2012, 1:46 am
@Leemanrhymes: I generally feel cheated when the prot dies.
It's easier to kill them than find a way for them to live #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:46 am
@ShortofStories: better: WHY did you kill your protagonist?
#SCRIPTCHAT
November 19, 2012, 1:46 am
@RWWFilm: @princess_scribe @SarahAlexis4 Right. So to
clearly kill him and then clear the Mist in the film = BALLSY #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:46 am
@jeannevb: Hey, Bill is here! Which brings me to a pimp
op.... *drumroll* RT @wcmartell: Ive killed protags before - its fun!
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:47 am
@bachbunny: RT @GoIntoTheStory: Think concepts. Read
scripts. Watch movies. Write pages. Live life. #screenwriting #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:47 am
@princess_scribe: @RWWFilm I LOVED the choice. I really tip
hat to Darabont @SarahAlexis4 #scriptchat IT was fitting... and heartbreaking
November 19, 2012, 1:47 am
@SarahAlexis4: Also interesting when a main character's
death is used as part of the All Is Lost Moment for another main character.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:47 am
@Screenwriter12: Would love to see a chat on protags not
reaching their goals sometime & how to still write a satisfying ending as a
result. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:47 am
@art1032: @jeannevb @KikibirdHinlo @BrionyKidd Bwaahaha My
protag is based on real events in the end this person dies In story he doesn't.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:47 am
@velk: @Leemanrhymes I generally feel sad but not cheated
when it's done well. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:47 am
@SarahAlexis4: @RWWFilm I'm sadly not familiar with the
movie... :) Will have to see it. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:47 am
@princess_scribe: @SarahAlexis4 DONT READ THE TWEETS SPOILER
SPOILER SPOILER #scriptchat ;p
November 19, 2012, 1:48 am
@RWWFilm: @Leemanrhymes To kill them. Yes. To kill them in a
satisfying and natural seeming way for your story. That's work. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:48 am
@jeannevb: Our fab @wcmartell is teaching a webinar for
@writersstore on Wed Nov 28th on Your First 10 Pages! http://t.co/U3y58EZU
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:48 am
@ShortofStories: @jeannevb Got a good ending: One Flew Over
the Cuckoo’s Nest. Is it all about irony as well? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:48 am
@SarahAlexis4: @princess_scribe I didn't haha #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:48 am
@BrionyKidd: @Screenwriter12 Yes, interesting. I think MY
BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING a great example. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:48 am
@wcmartell: Problem is - I'm in only Starbucks with dead
wifi, so this is from my phone. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:48 am
@RWWFilm: @SarahAlexis4 Well shoot. I just spoiled it for
you then. Damn! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:48 am
@ericnjones: @zacsanford2 Makes sense... if the story has
legs & it feels like the natural evolution to kill off the protag, then I
guess... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:49 am
@RWWFilm: RT @jeannevb: Our fab @wcmartell is teaching a
webinar for @writersstore on Wed Nov 28th on Your First 10 Pages!
http://t.co/U3y58EZU #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:49 am
@jeannevb: @ShortofStories I have to watch that again. It's
been so long. Love that film. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:49 am
@WriteCoachKiki: RT @Screenwriter12: Would love to see a
chat on protags not reaching their goals sometime & how to still write a
satisfying ending as a result. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:49 am
@scriptmag: RT @jeannevb: Our fab @wcmartell is teaching a
webinar for @writersstore on Wed Nov 28th on Your First 10 Pages!
http://t.co/U3y58EZU #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:49 am
@bachbunny: @RWWFilm @Leemanrhymes What about those movies
that keep you guessing at whether the protagonist is dead? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:49 am
@princess_scribe: @SarahAlexis4 ;) *spoiler* #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:50 am
@writesthis: All depends on the story. If killing the protag
works, it works. It seems the real question isn't does it work, but does it
sell #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:50 am
@_iamryanmoore: The fear of scaring off audiences. Sad.
MT"@zacsanford2: the testing process has killed a many wonderful endings
and comedies. #scriptchat"
November 19, 2012, 1:50 am
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb @ShortofStories I love the flick.
Wouldn't say the endings is meant to be ironic. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:50 am
@jeannevb: 9 more minutes to get the #deathchat on
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:51 am
@ShortofStories: @RWWFilm @jeannevb But it ain’t about
sacrifice, is it? So how can we set it into a category? Or must create a new
one? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:52 am
@ericnjones: @jeannevb I'm torn about that right now &
if the writing is strong & people are emotionally involved with her, I
can't. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:52 am
@writesthis: I'd say a great script can sell eventually,
nomatter who dies at the end. But I could be wrong #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:53 am
@RWWFilm: Final thoughts: Anyone have a film where the
Protag dies & they think the film would have been BETTER if they hadn't?
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:53 am
@ShortofStories: I honestly always preferred to kill the
protagonist’s best friend and see him suffering. And you thought you were
sadistic #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:53 am
@jeannevb: RT @RWWFilm: Final thoughts: Anyone have a film
where Protag dies & they think the film would have been BETTER if they
hadnt? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:53 am
@princess_scribe: Cuckoos Nest is about sacrifice., in that
McMurphy sacrifices himself by bucking the system... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:54 am
@Ludovicaa: Ugh it amazes me that movie makers havent done
the alternate happy ending to the passion of christ yet #controversial
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:54 am
@ShortofStories: @RWWFilm I am Legend #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:54 am
@bachbunny: @BrendonUdy @jeannevb haha #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:54 am
@princess_scribe: He knows just how far Ratchet will go -
and he tests her to her limit. In that essence, he is a sacrifice
#stcinstitutionalized #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:54 am
@RWWFilm: @ShortofStories @jeannevb To me it was about
inevitability. He was dead as soon as he went into the institution. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:54 am
@wcmartell: If it feels right to kill a character - do it!
Hollywood will make you change it after they pay you. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:54 am
@art1032: @ShortofStories Bwaahahaha sadistic can be fun:)
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:54 am
@BuildingContent: RT @jeannevb: WGA's top 101 scripts...
most available for download http://t.co/EppHjr3J #scriptchat #screenwriting
November 19, 2012, 1:55 am
@SarahAlexis4: I think it comes down to the death feeling
earned or organic, not arbitrary to their arc/transformation & the story as
whole. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:55 am
@bachbunny: @BrendonUdy terminal illness that he'd had since
the beginning of the movie? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:55 am
@bachbunny: RT @ericnjones: @jeannevb @RWWFilm @Ludovicaa
Navigating that fine line between risky & safe & trying to please
readers is very difficult #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:55 am
@jeannevb: @Ludovicaa I loved Passion of the Christ. I watch
it every Good Friday and cry. Cover my eyes a lot though. #heartbreaking
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:55 am
@writesthis: Enjoyed my second scriptchat. Glad I remembered
this week! Thanks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:55 am
@RWWFilm: @princess_scribe True. He is choosing to bring the
joy of life back to the inmates, choosing to not care what the results may be
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:56 am
@Screenwriter12: Surprise deaths in movies are awesome - the
car accident in 'Adaptation', Brad Pitt's death in 'Burn After Reading'...
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:56 am
@jeannevb: good point! RT @wcmartell: If it feels right to
kill a character - do it! Hollywood will make you change it after they pay you.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:56 am
@ShortofStories: @RWWFilm @jeannevb Would The Green Mile
algo go as inevitability? No Country as well? #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:56 am
@SarahAlexis4: It shouldn't feel forced or like a ploy or a
manipulation for the sake of plot, but rather be/lead to a satisfying
conclusion. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:56 am
@jeannevb: Thx for joining! RT @writesthis: Enjoyed my
second scriptchat. Glad I remembered this week! Thanks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:56 am
@princess_scribe: @RWWFilm He's done and he knows it. Only
thing left to do - make a big mess. #lobotomy #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:56 am
@ericnjones: @Screenwriter12 @RWWFilm @jeannevb I'm sure!
When I read what she's looking for though it struck a chord. Dramas are a hard
sell #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:56 am
@Ludovicaa: @jeannevb I didnt mean that specific movie,but
in general. thats the classic dead protag story and always gets great box
office #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@writesthis: @wcmartell Hahaha! RT: n If it feels right to
kill a character - do it! Hollywood will make you change it after they pay you.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@RWWFilm: @Ludovicaa @jeannvb Technically I guess the happy
ending comes three days later. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@ShortofStories: RT @princess_scribe: @RWWFilm He's done and
he knows it. Only thing left to do - make a big mess. #lobotomy #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@ericnjones: RT @jeannevb: we love @Bang2write! RT @RWWFilm:
@Screenwriter12 @ericnjones @jeannevb Lucy is great! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@SarahAlexis4: @Screenwriter12 It really is something when a
character's death simply blindsides you/takes your breath away. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@princess_scribe: @RWWFilm Also so interesting b/c of the
anti-hero status "She was fifteen years old going on thirty-five"
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@ericnjones: RT @jeannevb: @ericnjones @rwwfilm @Ludovicaa
but I think if we unrepped writers always color inside the lines, we wont stand
out #takerisks #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@princess_scribe: RT @SarahAlexis4: @Screenwriter12 It
really is something when a character's death simply blindsides you/takes your
breath away. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@thinkhollywood: RT @jeannevb: Our fab @wcmartell is
teaching a webinar for @writersstore on Wed Nov 28th on Your First 10 Pages!
http://t.co/U3y58EZU #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@BuildingContent: I missed #scriptchat, but I'll review the
hashtag to see what I missed. I wonder if any in the script crowd have crossed
over for #nanowrimo
November 19, 2012, 1:57 am
@RWWFilm: @princess_scribe Now I want to go watch it :)
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:58 am
@jeannevb: @Ludovicaa ironic we're talking about death today
after the discussion we had :) #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:58 am
@princess_scribe: @RWWFilm ;) One of my favorites
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:58 am
@Jamie_LD: Join us for #tvwriterchat in 30 minute. We have
Highstreet Management's Jenny Frankfurt @tryingtrue as our guest. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:58 am
@princess_scribe: RT @Jamie_LD: Join us for #tvwriterchat in
30 minute. We have Highstreet Management's Jenny Frankfurt @tryingtrue as our
guest. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@wcmartell: Using my phone to chat is not working! See some
of you on the 28th for First 10 pg class! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@RWWFilm: @princess_scribe Absolutely. He's no angel.
Testament to the source that we end up cheering for a stat rapist. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@writesthis: @jeannevb Thank you! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@ShortofStories: Butch Cassidy & The Wild Bunch could
also fall into the inevitability category instead of sacrifice. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@_iamryanmoore: RT @Screenwriter12: Surprise deaths in
movies are awesome - the car accident in 'Adaptation', Brad Pitt's death in
'Burn After Reading'... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@bachbunny: @BuildingContent Me! #scriptchat #nanowrimo
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@Screenwriter12: RT @jeannevb: WGA's top 101 scripts... most
available for download http://t.co/EppHjr3J #scriptchat #screenwriting
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@Jamie_LD: @wcmartell Can't wait. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@princess_scribe: Happy ending comes in box office returns.
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@ericnjones: @jeannevb @RWWFilm hhmmm... I'm thinking
CARRIE. Just wanted her to have a chance at happiness somehow. Sad end to a sad
life. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@SarahAlexis4: Nice chatting with all you character
murderers! #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@princess_scribe: RT @RWWFilm: @princess_scribe Absolutely.
He's no angel. Testament to the source that we end up cheering for a stat
rapist. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 1:59 am
@RWWFilm: @princess_scribe We should compare lists sometime.
I think we might have a very similar list. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:00 am
@princess_scribe: @RWWFilm I'm guessing we do. Although I
have a nice collection of #guiltypleasure fare #cheeseplz #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:00 am
@RWWFilm: @princess_scribe or at the massuesse #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:01 am
@bachbunny: RT @SarahAlexis4: It shouldn't feel forced or
like a ploy or a manipulation for the sake of plot, but rather be/lead to a
satisfying conclusion. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:01 am
@ShortofStories: Time to check on some new people to follow
from this great #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:01 am
@bachbunny: RT @jeannevb: good point! RT @wcmartell: If it
feels right to kill a character - do it! Hollywood will make you change it
after they pay you. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:01 am
@art1032: LMBO loved this chat thanks #scriptchat and all
character murderers as Sarah just put it:)
November 19, 2012, 2:01 am
@ericnjones: One death that was fitting was in MULHOLLAND
DRIVE. Suicide is NEVER the only way out, but Betty Elms was pretty troubled...
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:01 am
@RWWFilm: @princess_scribe I dont believe in guilty
pleasures. If you like it. Like it w pride :) #BubbaHoTep #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:01 am
@jeannevb: The bewitching hour is here! Next Sun we talk
about exposition: too much vs too little. Work off some turkey day calories w us
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:02 am
@bachbunny: @wcmartell Dang straight! Haha #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:02 am
@ericnjones: I'm one of the few people who liked IN THE CUT.
Can't imagine if Meg Ryan had died at the end. Would have been - disappointing
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:02 am
@saturdayknight: RT @RWWFilm: @princess_scribe I dont
believe in guilty pleasures. If you like it. Like it w pride :) #BubbaHoTep
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:02 am
@RWWFilm: Thanks for a great chat everyone. I love you all.
#Serious #scriptchat Now go write.
November 19, 2012, 2:02 am
@princess_scribe: @RWWFilm OMG. #BubbaHoTep Bruce Campbell
is a god. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:03 am
@RWWFilm: @princess_scribe Bow before the power of #TheChin
#scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:03 am
@GorillaProducer: "@princess_scribe: Happy ending comes
in box office returns. #scriptchat" we thought that was #extra
November 19, 2012, 2:04 am
@GeoffBreedwell: RT @Jamie_LD: RT @Ludovicaa: #scriptchat
killing the protag can let another character step out and take the story to
another level
November 19, 2012, 2:05 am
@jeannevb: One lesson I learned this year, death can be both
a nightmare and a gift. All depends on your perspective. #justsayin #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:05 am
@emonome: RT @jeannevb: One lesson I learned this year,
death can be both a nightmare and a gift. All depends on your perspective.
#justsayin #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:05 am
@JacobKamhis: @elizabethkarr @scriptchat Then I'd ask for my
movie money to be returned.
November 19, 2012, 2:05 am
@jeannevb: Now off to grab the transcript! See you all next
Sunday. Btw,transcripts here: http://t.co/NzcyzhrG #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:05 am
@princess_scribe: RT @jeannevb: One lesson I learned this
year, death can be both a nightmare and a gift. All depends on your
perspective. #justsayin #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:06 am
@Screenwriter12: @jeannevb A huge hug to you, JVB. You're
amazing. And you are a survivor. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:06 am
@princess_scribe: @GorillaProducer *bliss* #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:06 am
@ITFtheSeries: @RWWFilm - #scriptchat http://t.co/mqa0A3VC
November 19, 2012, 2:07 am
@Screenwriter12: Thanks to everyone for a great chat
tonight. Now I want to go kill my protagonist - before some actor does it for
me. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:08 am
@princess_scribe: RT @Screenwriter12: Thanks to everyone for
a great chat tonight. Now I want to go kill my protagonist - before some actor
does it for me. #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:08 am
@RWWFilm: @Screenwriter12 @jeannevb They need a "Damn
Right" button on here. Love you, Jeanne #scriptchat.
November 19, 2012, 2:08 am
@RWWFilm: Truer words were never spoken RT @ITFtheSeries -
#scriptchat http://t.co/trU5OL2H
November 19, 2012, 2:09 am
@jeannevb: @RWWFilm @Screenwriter12 seriously, friends like
you guys make all the #shitstorms a little less painful xo #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:09 am
@ericnjones: @jeannevb Thank you everyone for the great
chat! To kill off or not to kill off? Food for thought for sure... #scriptchat
November 19, 2012, 2:09 am
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