Sunday, November 4, 2012

Multi-Protagonist Transcript - November 4, 2012


#Scriptchat TOPIC: multi-protagonist films

EURO moderator: Teenie Russell @teenierussell
USA moderator: Jeanne Veillette Bowerman @jeannevb

EURO CHAT:
 
@teenierussell: It's #scriptchat O'Clock! Everyone is welcome to join in as we chat about multi-protagonist scripts (or ensemble scripts) #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:00 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @SiFoulaReel enjoy your evening #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:02 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: Hi everyone! Well excited to stick my nose in this week! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:02 pm          



 
@antonsays: #scriptchat hello!
November 4, 2012, 8:02 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @alli_and_that Hello there! Finally on the right time zone :-) #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:03 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @antonsays hi Anton #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:03 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell BACK in the right time zone. Ha! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:04 pm          



 
@TaroJ: Hi #scriptchat, hope those of you that made the festival had a great time
November 4, 2012, 8:04 pm          



 
@Sandy_Nicholson: Evening all! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:04 pm          



 
@antonsays: #scriptchat @alli_and_that and I are writing a multi-protagonist film so tell us all your secrets
November 4, 2012, 8:04 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @antonsays I thought we weren't telling people?! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:05 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @Sandy_Nicholson Hello Sandy, I was actually thinking of you, is your Not Long Now multi-protag? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:05 pm          



 
@teenierussell: RT @antonsays: #scriptchat @alli_and_that and I are writing a multi-protagonist film so tell us all your secrets #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:05 pm          



 
@SpockWriter: Hi everyone! Are we all buzzing from LSF last weekend? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:05 pm          



 
@teenierussell: When I think multi-protag, I think of 2 types of films... #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:06 pm          



 
@antonsays: @alli_and_that oh. Erm... #awkward #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:06 pm          



 
@teenierussell: 1st where the protags are all on the same journey together and therefore know each other, eg Little Miss Sunshine #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:06 pm          



 
@antonsays: @alli_and_that hi Alli. How's the left side of the sofa? #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:07 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell Have you ever read/attended Linda Aronson's book/lecture? Many more than that! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:07 pm          



 
@teenierussell: the other where a theme holds the stories together #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:08 pm          



 
@antonsays: @PINKTROID @teenierussell @alli_and_that we will keep them from the others so they'll still be secrets #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:09 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @alli_and_that I have only attended her lecture on non-linear writing. Do share :-) #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:09 pm          



 
@Sandy_Nicholson: @teenierussell I suppose it must be yes! Hadn't labelled it as such but it's definitely ensemble. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:09 pm          



 
@TaroJ: First multi protagonist film that sprang to mind, Love Actually #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:09 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @SpockWriter Hi Scott, yes, still buzzing from it! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:10 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @antonsays @alli_and_that cool! How do you go about writing it? Do you write each story separately first? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:11 pm          



 
@countmystars: RT @kammotion: Writers, how to feed the Hollywood beast! http://t.co/3WAIq6fx #NaNoWriMo #scriptchat #tvwriterchat
November 4, 2012, 8:12 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell @antonsays It's all in the planning. I've written one alone - I plan the story thoroughly before I get to script. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:13 pm          



 
@HateTheHate: #scriptchat True Romance, Pulp Fiction, The Expendables...
November 4, 2012, 8:13 pm          



 
@antonsays: @teenierussell @alli_and_that its giving two people their own story that links at some point. When Harry Met Sally links early #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:13 pm          



 
@n0nsensefactory: @alli_and_that @teenierussell @antonsays It's whatever works for you. Some need to plan. Some can pour it out (John Hughes) #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:13 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell Ensemble, dual protag (sometimes both in present, sometimes the same character in diff timelines), multi protag. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:14 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @antonsays that's really interesting, I never thought of When Harry Met Sally as Multi-Protag, but it seems obvious now! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:15 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @antonsays @teenierussell And if you force the protags apart, make them crash together strongly enough to drive the story. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:16 pm          



 
@evaBS: Hi everybody, trying to join in! #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:16 pm          



 
@antonsays: @teenierussell @alli_and_that you give each character an arc. #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:16 pm          



 
@teenierussell: My 1st feature was multi-protag but it fails on many levels. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:16 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: #scriptchat If you're working with an ensemble, there MUST be a theme that links them all, if not something stronger.
November 4, 2012, 8:17 pm          



 
@antonsays: @teenierussell why? Can you spot them? #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:17 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @evaBS Hi Eva, welcome! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:17 pm          



 
@evaBS: The point is the balance, when you have a main character and some sub main characters, or it is absolutely in balance!n #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:18 pm          



 
@teenierussell: RT @alli_and_that If youre working with an ensemble, there MUST be a theme that links them all, if not something stronger #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:18 pm          



 
@PINKTROID: It's really annoying when writers seem to think they haven't written a good piece if characters don't swear every minute #ScriptChat #JustMe
November 4, 2012, 8:19 pm          



 
@evaBS: Hi Teenie! #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:19 pm          



 
@Bang2write: @alli_and_that @teenierussell I have some experience reading multi protags, can talk u thru the pitfalls I've seen? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:19 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: #scriptchat Most TV is multi-protagonist and has been for a very long time. Film is slower to follow this trend but catching up.
November 4, 2012, 8:19 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @antonsays Reading back it's confusing as to whether there are 2 or 3 protags and how they support each other. Lack of planning #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:20 pm          



 
@PINKTROID: RT @jeannevb: Tonight on #scriptchat, we discuss multi-protagonist scripts. Join in! 5pm PT, 8pm ET http://t.co/NzcyzhrG
November 4, 2012, 8:20 pm          



 
@n0nsensefactory: @alli_and_that Technically speaking you have more room in TV over the course of a series to work with for that. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:20 pm          



 
@vickyhinault: @alli_and_that @teenierussell @antonsays It's all in the planning for me too. Without it I can lose momentum easily. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:20 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell @antonsays Planning is so key. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:20 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @alli_and_that I think it's hard not to find TV that's multi-protag #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:21 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @Bang2write Yes please! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:21 pm          



 
@evaBS: Everything that works is ok, but if audience are concerned with one character than the rest, what then? #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:21 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @n0nsensefactory True, but you can still tell the story of two characters over ninety minutes alongside each other. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:21 pm          



 
@n0nsensefactory: @alli_and_that I never said it was impossible! Just you have less room to do it! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:22 pm          



 
@lukeJmadsen: Poured your soul into your story? Don't stumble at the end—cement your story with correct expression! http://t.co/TKRGC3WW #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:22 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell I can think of a few. But the trend is def multi-protag - easier to hit multiple demographics with varying cast. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:22 pm          



 
@antonsays: @teenierussell @alli_and_that that's cos it's a different arc for characters in a sitcom than film. A film can gave huge arcs. #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:23 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @n0nsensefactory @alli_and_that and each ep on TV can focus on a different protag. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:23 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: #scriptchat RT @DennisHurleston: @alli_and_that Linda Aronoson's book and talk at LSF have been revelatory for me. Got me rewriting.
November 4, 2012, 8:23 pm          



 
@n0nsensefactory: @antonsays And TV can't? I think most soaps would disagree! @teenierussell @alli_and_that #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:24 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell @n0nsensefactory But then the episodes become single protag? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:24 pm          



 
@Bang2write: @teenierussell OK, top prob: no narrative need for multiple protags, done solely 4 style - thus impacts on emotional investment #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:24 pm          



 
@n0nsensefactory: @alli_and_that @teenierussell Think overreaching story arc. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:24 pm          



 
@ddmulholland: @alli_and_that features don't require more than 1 protag due to their closed narrative style. tv is just a diff beast. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:25 pm          



 
@TaroJ: @n0nsensefactory @antonsays @teenierussell @alli_and_that yup Soaps are a perfect example #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:26 pm          



 
@antonsays: @n0nsensefactory @teenierussell @alli_and_that I'm talking over the course of one episode v one film and also sitcom #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:26 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @alli_and_that @n0nsensefactory No but some characters become supporting in some eps and protag in others, iyswim #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:26 pm          



 
@Bang2write: @teenierussell 2nd biggest: multiple protags' arcs crossover and screw up 1 another's paths cos scribe not worked out in advance #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:27 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @ddmulholland I think it depends on your story intent as to how many protags you need. Often it's one but sometimes it's more. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:27 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell But that's then not a multi protag episode. If it's not equally weighted, it's got a main protag. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:28 pm          



 
@Bang2write: @teenierussell 3rd biggest: no real arc and/or linking theme to speak of for each protag - so what's the pt? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:29 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @lukeJmadsen Not for pure multi-protag. Films can present themselves as multi-protag but aren't. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:29 pm          



 
@TaroJ: Do certain genres lean more towards multiprotagas than others? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:29 pm          



 
@antonsays: #scriptchat soaps and sitcom have multi-protags as they need loads of stories for loads of episodes too #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:29 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @alli_and_that OK, I see, so it's about the ep and not the series. Gotcha #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:30 pm          



 
@teenierussell: RT @Bang2write: @teenierussell 3rd biggest: no real arc and/or linking theme to speak of for each protag - so whats the pt? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:30 pm          



 
@antonsays: @TaroJ a few rom-coms have done so. #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:31 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell I believe so, as you usually write each episode individually, even though it's part of a bigger series arc. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:31 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @TaroJ I would say no. I think most genres can successfully pull of multi protag. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:31 pm          



 
@evaBS: @Bang2write Sounds like someone just want multiple for stylish reasons #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:32 pm          



 
@teenierussell: RT @Bang2write OK, top prob: no narrative need for multiple protags, done solely 4 style - thus impacts on emotional investment #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:32 pm          



 
@teenierussell: RT @Bang2write 2nd biggest: multiple protags arcs crossover and screw up 1 anothers paths cos scribe not worked out in advance #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:32 pm          



 
@n0nsensefactory: P T Anderson ruined ensemble pieces for me forever #magnolia #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:32 pm          



 
@TaroJ: @antonsays comedy came to mind first but then Pulp fiction, Crash, anything Robert Altman has made... #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:33 pm          



 
@antonsays: @TaroJ I think you can find examples in most genres #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:33 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: #scriptchat Multi protagonist is incredibly difficult. But when done well, they can be so effective. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:33 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @n0nsensefactory I really liked Magnolia #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:34 pm          



 
@n0nsensefactory: @teenierussell It goes back to what someone was saying about swearing. It turned into noise in that film. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:34 pm          



 
@evaBS: @teenierussell Me toon #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:34 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @antonsays @TaroJ I'm trying to think of a multi-protag horror #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:34 pm          



 
@vickyhinault: What are the best examples film or TV of multiprotagonist scripts people can think of? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:35 pm          



 
@teenierussell: RT @alli_and_that: #scriptchat Multi protagonist is incredibly difficult. But when done well, they can be so effective. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:35 pm          



 
@antonsays: @alli_and_that its great when you feel invested in more than one person. I definitely mistyped that as 'incested' #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:35 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @ddmulholland I think they can still work when done well. Love Actually, Crash, Brokeback Mountain, When Harry Met Sally, etc. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:35 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @ddmulholland Trouble is, people often get swept up in the gimmick of it and don't pull it off well. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:36 pm          



 
@antonsays: @teenierussell @TaroJ Cabin In The Woods, Scream #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:36 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @teenierussell @antonsays @TaroJ Cabin In The Woods? Saw? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:36 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @n0nsensefactory the frog scene became a bit comic but otherwise I thought it was well crafted. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:36 pm          



 
@Bang2write: @evaBS yep. There are story losses cos of multiple protags, so needs to be a gd reason behind it to make story gains #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:37 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @n0nsensefactory although I might have to read the script without the Amy Mann soundtrack #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:37 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @antonsays Multi protag also reinforces the 'This can happen to anyone' universality of the story. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:37 pm          



 
@ClaireYeowart: @vickyhinault great example of multiprotagonist TV is ER #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:38 pm          



 
@antonsays: @alli_and_that yes it can make it more accessible to its audience too #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:38 pm          



 
@SpockWriter: @teenierussell early SAW Franchise to an extent... #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:38 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @vickyhinault I like Little Miss Sunshine, Love Actually, what else... #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:39 pm          



 
@TaroJ: @antonsays @teenierussell not seen cabin the woods but Scream is all about Sydney, horror seems a tricky one #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:39 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @lukeJmadsen I don't know if Crash is pure multi protag though. Brokeback Mountain is a better example. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:39 pm          



 
@ddmulholland: @alli_and_that ask, whose character undergoes the most dramatic change? Who is 3rd act about? Whose actions drive the plot? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:39 pm          



  
@teenierussell: @antonsays Scream? Not seen Cabin in the Woods yet #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:39 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @ddmulholland Interesting way to think of it. Definitely watch Love Actually though. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:40 pm          



 
@evaBS: @teenierussell Just remebered "Always sunshine...." That's a good example #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:40 pm          



 
@vickyhinault: @teenierussell Plan B's Ill Manors this year was an incredible example of weaving a multi pro tag story together. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:40 pm          



 
@antonsays: @TaroJ @teenierussell I think 2 and 3 give more weight to Arquette and Cox #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:40 pm          



 
@lukeJmadsen: @alli_and_that Oh I see. I thought you meant ensembles. Brokeback obviously isn't. :) Sad movie. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:40 pm          



 
@TaroJ: @vickyhinault @teenierussell yet to see it, fantastic soundtrack #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:41 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @SpockWriter Yes, if you consider the guys in the bathroom to be the protags, I need to watch it again #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:41 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: @lukeJmadsen I did start off talking about ensembles! Sorry, my mistake. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:42 pm          



 
@vickyhinault: @TaroJ @teenierussell Definitely recommend it. Very gritty but very powerful. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:42 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @ddmulholland I heard last weekend that Little Miss Sunshine was really about the mum, she was the one who had her wish granted #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:43 pm          



 
@teenierussell: RT @ddmulholland ask, whose character undergoes the most dramatic change? Who is 3rd act about? Whose actions drive the plot? #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:44 pm          



 
@evaBS: A quick conclusion - only multiple is you can't avoid it :)n #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:44 pm          



 
@SpockWriter: @teenierussell SAW II deffo is - the one where they are all in the house/hotel and they have to find a way to escape. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:44 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @vickyhinault not seen that, but will watch out for it #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:45 pm          



 
@lukeJmadsen: @alli_and_that No worries. I have enough trouble structuring a story around one protagonist! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:46 pm          



 
@ddmulholland: @teenierussell #scriptchat I would say it's about greg kinnear. He is driving plot, he has biggest char arc, the third act is about him
November 4, 2012, 8:46 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: #scriptchat The key is writing strong multi protag films is to completely understand the craft of single protag. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:46 pm          



 
@antonsays: RT @alli_and_that: #scriptchat The key is writing strong multi protag films is to completely understand the craft of single protag.
November 4, 2012, 8:47 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @lukeJmadsen haha, I'm focusing on one protag at the moment for features. I really ought to master that first #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:47 pm          



 
@StarterScript: Horror comes from something inhuman acting human or trying to enter the human community. #screenwriting #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:48 pm          



 
@HorrorGirlKate: RT @StarterScript: Horror comes from something inhuman acting human or trying to enter the human community. #screenwriting #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:48 pm          



 
@TaroJ: @ddmulholland @teenierussell I agree, it was an interesting take on it which I think further reinforces it as multiprotag #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:49 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @ddmulholland but it's also about the family coming together and standing up for each other #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:49 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @alli_and_that Yes, definitely! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:50 pm          



 
@TheConflictGuru: RT @StarterScript: Horror comes from something inhuman acting human or trying to enter the human community. #screenwriting #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:50 pm          



 
@SpockWriter: @teenierussell Other horror films I would consider to be ensemble would be: Nightmare on Elms St, Jeepers Creepers 2... #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:51 pm          



 
@ddmulholland: @teenierussell #scriptchat yes, I agree, but the notion of "family coming together" is driven by Kinear's char.
November 4, 2012, 8:53 pm          



 
@ddmulholland: @teenierussell #scriptchat think of it this way: ""Will Frank (Kinear's char) accept his family for who they are?" So he drives that arc.
November 4, 2012, 8:53 pm          



 
@SpockWriter: @teenierussell: ... The Hills Have Eyes, Thir13een Ghosts, Rec 1,2 and 3. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:54 pm          



 
@teenierussell: 5minutes to go on Euro #scriptchat on multi-ptotags/ ensemble/ dup protag films. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:55 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: #scriptchat More often than not each character in a multi protag film tell a different variation on the same theme. #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:56 pm          



 
@MarkLever: RT @Bang2write: 6 Tips On Writing A One Page Pitch For Your Script Or Novel http://t.co/kZleL73b #scriptchat #screenwriting #novels #pitches
November 4, 2012, 8:56 pm          



 
@antonsays: Also the which film is multi game? RT @teenierussell: 5minutes to go on Euro #scriptchat on multi-ptotags/ ensemble/ dup protag films.
November 4, 2012, 8:57 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @ddmulholland interesting way of looking at it, #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:57 pm          



 
@grahaminman: Go Into The Story | Go On Your Own Quest, Week 16: First Draft http://t.co/uUrplTIu #Scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 8:58 pm          



 
@ddmulholland: @teenierussell #scriptchat Think in terms of 1 protag, 1 main goal for protag, 1 character arc for protag. It's like occam's razor.
November 4, 2012, 9:01 pm          



 
@teenierussell: Thank you for all your input tonight, definitely read through if you plan on writing a multi-protag film! #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 9:01 pm          



 
@ddmulholland: @teenierussell #scriptchat You can have other main chars, but don't confuse your story unnecessarily by thinking of it as multiple protags
November 4, 2012, 9:01 pm          



 
@alli_and_that: #scriptchat Awesome fun stopping in tonight! Might sneak in again sometime soon!
November 4, 2012, 9:02 pm          



 
@teenierussell: Make sure to join us next week as we're once again joined by the fantastic @julie_gray #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 9:03 pm          



 
@teenierussell: RT @ddmulholland You can have other main chars, but dont confuse your story unnecessarily by thinking of it as multiple protags #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 9:04 pm          



 
@teenierussell: @alli_and_that great to have you around again, thanks for a great chat #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 9:04 pm          



 
@teenierussell: make sure to catch tomorrow's transcript as the US explore the same topic. Goodnight all #scriptchat
November 4, 2012, 9:05 pm          


USA CHAT:


 
@jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK! Tonight we're discussing multi-protagonists. Chime in at http://t.co/WOwR8d4B
November 5, 2012, 1:00 am           



 
@rdlln: Good evening #scriptchat my apologies if I repeat anything, or appear to ignore you - tweeting from the past w/ @twuffer
November 5, 2012, 1:00 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @SarahAlexis4 The Verizon people told me I only tweeted with Data Plan and less than 1g in a month #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:01 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @SarahAlexis4 You do have electricity and heat? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:01 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: How do you create a movie with two protagonists? How do you balance both characters screen time? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:01 am           



 
@art1032: Hello #scriptchat:)
November 5, 2012, 1:01 am           



 
@jeannevb: Let's jumpstart the chat with what your fave movies are with multi-protagonists? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:02 am           



 
@jeannevb: @art1032 *waves* #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:02 am           



 
@RWWFilm: Evening, everyone! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:02 am           



 
@RoboticNate: Missing #scriptchat again folks… I do send apologies… I'm quite busy of late working on a new #shortfilm and launching my production company
November 5, 2012, 1:02 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @Jamie_LD yes! So Grateful to have that back. Power then we got heat/hot water. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:03 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: Good evening, everyone. n #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:03 am           



 
@jeannevb: @RWWFilm yo... glad you made it! Been (re)writing all afternoon #exhausted #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:03 am           



 
@art1032: @jeannevb Hey :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:03 am           



 
@FilmTony: I'm in now, baby. Let's do this. Lucky to not have been affected by the storm here in Brooklyn. Never lost power or anything. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:03 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @SarahAlexis4 Glad to hear it. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:04 am           



 
@art1032: @SarahAlexis4 @Jamie_LD YAY!!! u got it all:) eeeeeeee:) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:04 am           



 
@jeannevb: @SarahAlexis4 @Jamie_LD...you two popping into the chat? We're talking multi-protagonists tonight. Chime in #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:04 am           



 
@FilmTony: Favorite multi-protagonist movies? Hmmm, this may take some thinking? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:04 am           



 
@jeannevb: @FilmTony that's great! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:04 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: I've been researching for my TV spec pilot all afternoon. Trying to switch to feature mode. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:05 am           



 
@storynotes: thoughts on #once or #OUAT http://t.co/uEIqcUDm #screenwriting #writing #story #writenow #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:05 am           



 
@rdlln: 2 types multi-protagonist scripts, 1 where hv a group working towards same goal + another w/ dif. characters pursuing dif goals #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:05 am           



 
@rebelshea: Howdy all. Not even sure I remember how this works. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:05 am           



 
@dwacon: Sorry I'm late... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:05 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: THE FUGITIVE #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:06 am           



 
@maryelizathomas: Hi all - this is my first time here :) One of my faves would be The Departed. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:06 am           



 
@jeannevb: @rebelshea saw your fam at church today. Was going to nudge your bride to get your ass back to #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:07 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @maryelizathomas Thanks for joining us. I love The Departed too. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:07 am           



 
@jeannevb: @dwacon glad you made it! We're talking multi-protagonists... starting with your fave flick with them #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:07 am           



 
@PatrickS: @maryelizathomas Oh, yeah, The Departed. Great movie. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:07 am           



 
@writeforlove: Everyone tune into #scriptchat!!
November 5, 2012, 1:07 am           



 
@davyallin: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN. Moss and Sheriff Bell. Also one of my top 5 favorite scripts, ever. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:07 am           



 
@jeannevb: #scriptchat RT @PatrickS: @jeannevb Lethal Weapon
November 5, 2012, 1:08 am           



 
@dwacon: @jeannevb I have a father&son protagonist script… still cogitating on tweaking the balance… got good notes but stew needs salt… #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:08 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @jeannevb Would you consider The Usual Suspects a multi-protag? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:08 am           



 
@xyzimon: Great, great movie RT @EvanRandalGreen: THE FUGITIVE #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:08 am           



 
@RWWFilm: How exactly would you define a 2 protag story -vs- 1 protag w/ multi strong supporting characters #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:08 am           



 
@jeannevb: On a completely unrelated note, I just watched KICK ASS. Damn, I want to be Hit Chick when I grow up #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:08 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN in my top 5 also. Fantastic. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:08 am           



 
@MonaLiNYC: @jeannevb If The Sixth Sense and Pulp Fiction are considered multi-protag, then I toss those into the ring... (Adding #Scriptchat - forgot)
November 5, 2012, 1:09 am           



 
@FilmTony: Pulp Fiction is obvious. May have 2 revoke my man card, but finally saw Love Actually recently & dug it (despite a few moments) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:09 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @EvanRandalGreen I actually don't consider THE FUGITIVE as a dual protag story. TLJ is the Antag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:09 am           



 
@rebelshea: @jeannevb Yeah, I've been a bit busy lately. Those fine folks @FilmColumbia were working me hard for a bit there. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:09 am           



 
@FilmTony: I haven't seen it in a while, but was LA Confidential multi-protag? It feels that way. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:09 am           



 
@Leemanrhymes: @RWWFilm Good questionn #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:10 am           



 
@FilmTony: @jeannevb Kick Ass surprised the hell out of me. Really good and fun. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:10 am           



 
@rdlln: Tarantino is a master of multi-protags, any other writers/scripts/films you'd recommend to #seehowitsdone #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:10 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: I'd say Thelma & Louise and Shawshank Redemption as two faves. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:10 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb Sequel is being filmed right now. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:10 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: 2 protag story would be THE FUGITIVE. 1 protag w/ multi strong supporting characters GONE IN 60 SECONDS perhaps. Fine line... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:10 am           



 
@mrcolinjfleming: Traffic is another good example #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:11 am           



 
@stuwillis: . @FilmTony I recko LA Confidential is multi-protag. There's a lot of awesome dramatic irony as a result. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:11 am           



 
@jeannevb: @FilmTony me too! Wasn't expecting it at all. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:11 am           



 
@FilmTony: RT @Jamie_LD: Id say Thelma & Louise and Shawshank Redemption as two faves. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:11 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb the shawshank redemption is one of my fave multi-protagonist film #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:11 am           



 
@jeannevb: @RWWFilm cool #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:11 am           



 
@rebelshea: It's brand new but Cloud Atlas certainly counts as a quality multi-protag picture. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:11 am           



 
@jeannevb: mine too. Hands down. RT @SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb the shawshank redemption is one of my fave multi-protagonist film #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @Jamie_LD Good call on both of those. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@stuwillis: American Beauty is definitely a multi-protag film. Lots of characters with individual arcs interweaving. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@jeannevb: have you seen it? any good? RT @rebelshea: Its brand new but Cloud Atlas certainly counts as a quality multi-protag picture. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@GregStorm: RT @zacsanford: Hey #webserieschat & #scriptchat -- Does any one know of any webseries that were redeveloped/reconceived as a feature film?
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@art1032: Def. loved Thelma and Louise:) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@dwacon: @SarahAlexis4 In Shawshank, Red has focus... whether as participant or observer... which gives it the needed consistency... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@maryelizathomas: @rdlln What about Mike Leigh? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@dwacon: Nobody has mentioned CRASH yet... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@UnkScreenwriter: Highly recommend BEAUTIFUL GIRLS as a great multi-protag film and script. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:12 am           



 
@stuwillis: Altman turned multi-protag into an art. Nashville, Mash, Gosford Park, and others I probably should see. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:13 am           



 
@jeannevb: Now we have a few on the table... fr writer's perspective, what are the tricks to making them work? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:13 am           



 
@rebelshea: Pretty much any hyperlink movie would qualify as multi-protaganist. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:13 am           



 
@jeannevb: RT @UnkScreenwriter: Highly recommend BEAUTIFUL GIRLS as a great multi-protag film and script. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:13 am           



 
@PatrickS: @RWWFilm Good question. I think, who drives the action? Departed hinges equally on Leo's & Matt's actions. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:14 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: A lot of buddy films tend to have dual protagonists ie. midnight run, rain man, bad boys etc. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:14 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @dwacon I try to pretend CRASH didn't happen. But yeah, a good example of multi protagonsits. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:14 am           



 
@AstralAudio: @jeannevb "The Green Mile needs to be on the list as should Pulp Fiction. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:14 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: The sense of balance of the protag on the page is something to consider when writing. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:14 am           



 
@rebelshea: @jeannevb Yup, it's god but I need to see it again to decide how good. That sucker is seriously densely packed. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:14 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: jeannevb - All character's quests must tie in with the overall "theme" of the story #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:14 am           



 
@PatrickS: @RWWFilm Whereas Ocean's 11 it's Clooney's plan & story, the others (even Brad Pitt) are following his lead. My guess. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:14 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @AstralAudio yes! Love green mile! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:15 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb The most obvious key is to remember that you have dual protags & to spend equal time developing them #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:15 am           



 
@dream2screen: RT @Jamie_LD: The sense of balance of the protagonist on the page is something to consider when writing. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:15 am           



 
@rdlln: Guessing this has already been covered, but if not - important to have a COMMON THEME for multi-protag scripts #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:15 am           



 
@jeannevb: @RWWFilm I didn't like CRASH... I thought I was the only one ha #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:15 am           



 
@TheConflictGuru: @UnkScreenwriter Love Beautiful Girls. I recommend Little Miss Sunshine too! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:15 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: @RWWFilm How do you develop both equally with both having equal screen time? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:15 am           



 
@AstralAudio: If we forget The Cabin in the Woods or Night of the Demons, there is something wrong with us. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:16 am           



 
@TheConflictGuru: @jeannevb You're not the only one. It seemed over the top, unrealistic. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:16 am           



 
@kim_garland: A few minutes of Internet access, woohoo! Checking in on #scriptchat - what's the topic? (still no regular post-sandy Internet :-/ )
November 5, 2012, 1:16 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: Glengarry Glen Ross seems to fit the Multi-Protag.. in general Mamet seems to write that way. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:16 am           



 
@dwacon: @jeannevb CRASH was better as a series IMHO... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:16 am           



 
@jeannevb: @rebelshea saw ARGO last night. It's playing at @CrandellTheatre #awesome #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:16 am           



 
@dandollar: @jeannevb people liked crash? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:16 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: I think the characters in these films also mirror each other &/or provide contrast to each other. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:16 am           



 
@PatrickS: @AstralAudio I would say Tom Hanks is the protagonist - he's the one who changes, who drives the story. Great supporting cast. #scriptchat.
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @kim_garland same here in east village :) hi! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@stuwillis: . @rdlln MAGNOLIA does that very well. And it unifies the stories in the third act with the frog-rain too. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@FilmTony: Don't know of one: I'd love a multi-protag w/ 2 disconnected characters working toward the same goal diff ways. Most are buddy #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@jeannevb: @kim_garland so glad you're here... and made it through #sandy #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@rebelshea: @dwacon Crash is awesome, but most people aren't into movies where people get turned on by car crashes. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb Absolutely not. We need a support group. My name's Brad...and I didn't like CRASH #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@writeforlove: All the characters should have a clearly defined arc, and it helps if their individual stories tie up together somehow. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@art1032: @MpRodriguez2007 @RWWFilm Watch 1 of your fave movies over and over to see how that writer gave them equal time? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:17 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: Exactly. RT @SarahAlexis4: I think the characters in these films also mirror each other &/or provide contrast to each other. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:18 am           



 
@JennaAvery: Do we get to count the Avengers as multi-protag? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:18 am           



 
@maryelizathomas: Speaking of Cabin in the Woods...Joss Whedon's Much Ado About Nothing is awesome! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:18 am           



 
@stuwillis: @rdlin I'm curious. Do you feel that Payload is a multi-protag or a protag with strong supporting? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:18 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: L.A. Confidential falls into this group. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:18 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: @art1032 Thank you. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:18 am           



 
@UnkScreenwriter: @RWWFilm @jeannevb Forgot the #scriptchat tag -- Equal time developing but in the END, there should BE ONLY ONE. LOL.
November 5, 2012, 1:18 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: @SarahAlexis4 - Good point. "Vigilante" flicks involve a protagonist looking for revenge and a detective going after the protag #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:18 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @MpRodriguez2007 I don't think that both protags need equal screen time-depends on the story. But you still have to develop them #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@art1032: @kim_garland Yay Kim made it:) #Sandybedamned eeeeeeee:) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@UnkScreenwriter: @RWWFilm @jeannevb As in more overall time... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@KimBergie: Ditto that! RT @Jamie_LD: I'd say Thelma & Louise and Shawshank Redemption as two faves. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@AJStarr: RT @jeannevb: NOOO! RT @Storygeeks: Casablanca sequel... at Warners—wud they?cud they?shud they?wht do U think? http://t.co/7KwCwVJS #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@jeannevb: @CelluloidBlonde Max is in the house!!! *smooches* #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @KimBergie Shouldn't you be doing homework? haha #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@rebelshea: Can't wait to see Argo. Looks great. @jeannevb @CrandellTheatre #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@jeannevb: @AnaisFTW psst use the #scriptchat hashtag to join the convo!
November 5, 2012, 1:19 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @jeannevb Smooches back. [smile] #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:20 am           



 
@rdlln: Are multi-protag scripts a harder sell? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:20 am           



 
@goodmelon: Talking '96 or '04 Crash? RT @rebelshea: Crash is awesome,but most arent into movies where people get turned on by car crashes. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:20 am           



 
@PatrickS: @JennaAvery Think I would. Everyone gets mostly equal time, own storylines, own journeys. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:20 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: What if you have a man and woman dual protagonists where the story revolves around an event that they experience together? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:20 am           



 
@FilmTony: HEAT? It's been a little while but I'm pretty sure it follows both De Niro and Pacino concurrently, but is it really dual protag #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:20 am           



 
@jeannevb: @CelluloidBlonde we've missed you! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:20 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @PatrickS That's what I'm thinking. Joss Whedon is so good at handling multiple character viewpoints. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:21 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: I think the dual protags are often on the same transformational journey or play a function in part of each other's. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:21 am           



 
@GangemiTony: @jeannevb Great topic. I think believable arcs for each protagonist and a theme that links them is a good place to start. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:21 am           



 
@KimBergie: LOL yes...just dropping in! RT @Jamie_LD: @KimBergie Shouldn't you be doing homework? haha #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:21 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: @rdlln Yes, I think so. Because they are harder to perfect. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:21 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @jeannevb Aw thanks, things have been a little crazed but I am around. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:21 am           



 
@writeforlove: RT @FilmTony: HEAT? It's been a little while but I'm pretty sure it follows both De Niro and Pacino concurrently, but is it really dual protag #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:22 am           



 
@PatrickS: @FilmTony Oh, good one! Heat is perfect multi-protag example. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:22 am           



 
@jeannevb: yo #scriptchat, @CelluloidBlonde's new book is coming out this month! The New Screenwriter's Survival Guide http://t.co/8tYUGn9t
November 5, 2012, 1:22 am           



 
@jeannevb: RT @GangemiTony: @jeannevb Great topic. I think believable arcs for each protagonist and a theme that links them is a good place to start. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:22 am           



 
@Leemanrhymes: How about we define what Multi protag means compared with 1 protag and strong support?n #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:22 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @JennaAvery @PatrickS Speaking of Whedon - I guess by default AVENGERS was a multi-protag film #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:22 am           



 
@dandollar: @JennaAvery agreed, joss is boss. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:22 am           



 
@rebelshea: 96. Was there another? ;-) RT @goodmelon: Talking '96 or '04 Crash? #scriptchat"
November 5, 2012, 1:22 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @jeannevb Thank you for the plug. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:23 am           



 
@JennaAvery: And what are distinctions between ensemble casts and multiple protagonists? #scriptchat @Leemanrhymes
November 5, 2012, 1:23 am           



 
@writeforlove: RT @RWWFilm: @JennaAvery @PatrickS Speaking of Whedon - I guess by default AVENGERS was a multi-protag film #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:23 am           



 
@RWWFilm: RT @jeannevb: yo #scriptchat, @CelluloidBlonde's new book is coming out this month! The New Screenwriter's Survival Guide http://t.co/8tYUGn9t
November 5, 2012, 1:23 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: Some of these writers(Tarantino, Allen, Mamet)write such good supporting characters that the films feel like multi-protag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:23 am           



 
@JennaAvery: Want it! RT @jeannevb: yo #scriptchat, @CelluloidBlonde's new book...he New Screenwriter's Survival Guide http://t.co/I7fdsgeb
November 5, 2012, 1:24 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: @Leemanrhymes I would define multi protagonists as at least two characters who have to deal with an event that connects them. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:24 am           



 
@jeannevb: @CelluloidBlonde got to keep my pimp skills sharp ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:24 am           



 
@FilmTony: Struggle w/ what is truly "dual protag." City of God is very much Rocket's story, but u get bits of Benny, Li'l Ze, Knockout Ned #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:24 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: Annie Hall was definitely Diane Keaton vehicle but w/Woody Allen it felt like multi-protag..#scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:24 am           



 
@stuwillis: . @RWWFilm @JennaAvery @PatrickS I'm not sure it was. It felt like the character arc was Iron Man's and, maybe, the Hulk's. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:24 am           



 
@kimberlyviv: @rdlln probably but it may set your script apart from the rest. Especially if you could somehow make it all connect by the end. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:24 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @JennaAvery @Leemanrhymes Ensemble is a grp all working towards one goal, multi-protags will have their own goals/journey #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:24 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: Ensemble - group share same goal; Multiple protags - each has individual goal. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:25 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: Echo...echo...echo......... ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:25 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @jeannevb lulz, did you get all the AFM stuff handled? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:25 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @stuwillis @JennaAvery @PatrickS True. Based on my own definition, it is more an ensemble film than multi-protag #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:26 am           



 
@JennaAvery: Iron Man had impact role, but each had own issues, concerns, focus, skills. Ensemble? Multi? @RWWFilm @PatrickS @stuwillis #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:26 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: RT @EvanRandalGreen :Ensemble - group share same goal; Multiple protags - each has individual goal. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:26 am           



 
@nisajaie: I love ensemble pieces. Robert Altman was great at that. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:26 am           



 
@AnaisFTW: #scriptchat According to my directing class a protagonist the story follows them and they go through some change.
November 5, 2012, 1:26 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @RWWFilm Ha, thinking same thing! @stuwillis @PatrickS #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:26 am           



 
@nisajaie: Hi guys. Sorry chiming in so late. Just got home from holiday food and baking material shopping. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:27 am           



 
@stuwillis: @JennaAvery @Leemanrhymes If we define a protag as a character that changes then multi-protag's each have arcs. Ensemble doesn't #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:27 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: I would correct that definition of ensemble pieces. Characters are linked by a thematic or event. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:27 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: They do not necessarily share same goal. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:27 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @JennaAvery Great minds. @stuwillis @PatrickS #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:27 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: True RT @nisajaie : I love ensemble pieces. Robert Altman was great at that. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:27 am           



 
@FilmTony: Pitch Black? Riddick and Fry are in the same situation and at times work together, but are very much separate. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:27 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Now I am blanking on every title that is a good example of that. [wry smile] #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @RWWFilm Indeed. :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@PatrickS: @RWWFilm @stuwillis @JennaAvery Hm. Can see that argument, too. Whedon films are tough to categorize in this area. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@rdlln: Script I'm working on now has a group working towards a common goal but I've singled out one protagonist #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Robert Altman did a lot of ensemble pieces, like Nashville. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: RT @CelluloidBlonde: I would correct that definition of ensemble pieces. Characters are linked by a thematic or event. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: @CelluloidBlonde Interesting. Can we flesh this out? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@stuwillis: Se7en is an interesting e.g.. Mills (Brad Pitt) is the main character, but Somerset (Morgan Freeman) is the single protagonist. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @PatrickS That's because he's a genius. :) #whedon #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:28 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Blast, what is the dog movie that was an ensemble piece? That's a good example too. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:29 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: SE7EN! So good. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:29 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: @stuwillis Interesting. That sounds a lot like my novel one is the main character and the other is a single protagonist. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:30 am           



 
@RWWFilm: RT @stuwillis: Se7en is an interesting e.g.. Mills (Brad Pitt) is the main character, but Somerset (Morgan Freeman) is the single protagonist. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:30 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @CelluloidBlonde best in show? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:30 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Too much coffee today, not enough sleep. I think it is time for a beer. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:30 am           



 
@rdlln: The protagonist is the one driving the action not always the hero #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:30 am           



 
@goodmelon: @rebelshea I chuckle to think how many thought they rented a Best Picture winning mass market movie, and got Cronenberg's Crash #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:30 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: @CelluloidBlonde Homeward Bound?? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:30 am           



 
@rebelshea: Multi-protag movies tend to have more drive with the protags working at cross purposes, creating more tension and drama. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:30 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: RT @SarahAlexis4: @CelluloidBlonde best in show? || Yes! Thank you. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:31 am           



 
@nisajaie: My anti-holiday holiday script that I am finishing up is an ensemble piece they have different goals vs. my comedy that I am... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:31 am           



 
@planetpooks: Ensemble from the wayback machine. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World & The Russions are Coming, The Russians are Coming. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:31 am           



 
@jeannevb: @CelluloidBlonde *pours* keep the great thoughts coming. You're making my night easy :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:31 am           



 
@JennaAvery: RT @stuwillis I'd say that multi-protag are all ensemble films, but not all ensemble films are multi-protag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:31 am           



 
@FilmTony: Beauty and the Beast???? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:31 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: In Best In Show, everyone is linked by an event, but the characters are not all pulling for one common goal. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:31 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: RT @JennaAvery: RT @stuwillis Id say that multi-protag are all ensemble films, but not all ensemble films are multi-protag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:31 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @planetpooks Hey, Pooks. Smooch! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@JennaAvery: I submit that Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, and Black Widow all had character arcs. @stuwillis @PatrickS @RWWFilm #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @stuwillis @JennaAvery @PatrickS So you could have a multi-protag that isnt an ensemble. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@2degreesofalie: #ScriptChat peeps, check out my podcast about #BreakingIntoHollywood: https://t.co/K7Edyc9I
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@rdlln: RT @JennaAvery: RT @stuwillis Id say that multi-protag are all ensemble films, but not all ensemble films are multi-protag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: 101 Dalmatians ... ultimate ensemble flick haha #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @JennaAvery @stuwillis @PatrickS Sorry. I didn't even realize Black Widow had any dialogue ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@nisajaie: ...working on with #writersgroup02 that have two protags that have different goals. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Also, you do not have to have a protagonist character arc to have a good film/story. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@amberrisme: RT @planetpooks: Ensemble from the wayback machine. It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World & The Russions are Coming, The Russians are Coming. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:32 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Richard Kimble in The Fugitive has virtually no character arc and it is a wonderful film. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:33 am           



 
@AndiWritesAgain: Love you #scriptchat! Sorry I can't be there. Driving. #pitstop
November 5, 2012, 1:33 am           



 
@dwacon: someday... The Seinfeld Movie will be written... the ultimate multi-protagonist film about nothing... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:33 am           



 
@stuwillis: @RWWFilm @jennaavery @patricks I think MAGNOLIA is exactly that. The group is completely unaware of each other. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:33 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Instead of Kimble changing, the characters around him whom he has impact on change. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:33 am           



 
@PatrickS: @RWWFilm @stuwillis @JennaAvery Departed is not ensemble, definitely multi-protag. Also Lethal Weapon. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:33 am           



 
@FilmTony: Maybe count Motorcycle Diaries between Ernesto and Alberto #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:34 am           



 
@princess_scribe: What have I missed? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:34 am           



 
@jeannevb: apologies...I'm multi-tasking during multi-prot chat. #lifeofmomwithteens #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:34 am           



 
@AnaisFTW: In my Directing class, we discussed how if a character's name is also the title, then that character is likely the protagonist. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:34 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @RWWFilm Ha! Touché. You weren't paying attention. :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:34 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @jeannevb That's how it goes! #lifeofmomwithteens #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:34 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: What if a boy save a girl's life at the beginning of the movie and the movie follows both of them would they be multi protags? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:34 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @princess_scribe We achieved world peace and solved world hunger. Where have you been? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:34 am           



 
@stuwillis: @PatrickS @rwwfilm @jennaavery Okay. I take that back :) (Multi protag encompassing ensemble) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:35 am           



 
@FilmTony: @stuwillis @RWWFilm @jennaavery @patricks anyone else else hate Magnolia? I love Anderson otherwise, but man I hate that film #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:35 am           



 
@ericnjones: @TheConflictGuru @jeannevb Agreed! Conflict escalation was artificial. Didn't feel organic. Multiple stories in 120 pgs is tough #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:35 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: Wondering for those that write multi-protags what made you decide to? Scope of story/plot? Wanting multi POVs? Genre ie. buddy? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:35 am           



 
@planetpooks: .@celluloidblonde Lots of Brit films are ensemble. Calendar Girls. Love Actually. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:35 am           



 
@FilmTony: @AnaisFTW Not really in the case of Finding Nemo... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:35 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: The X Men and other comics material can be multi-protag as well with common villain(s). #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:36 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @FilmTony @stuwillis @JennaAvery @PatrickS I know plenty of ppl that dont like Magnolia - but I'm not one of them :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:36 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: RT @planetpooks: .@celluloidblonde Lots of Brit films are ensemble. Calendar Girls. Love Actually. || definitely #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:36 am           



 
@nisajaie: @jeannevb Hey there! Wow...you are superwoman. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:36 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @SarahAlexis4 I've got an idea for a project that just seems to be a natural ensemble, not sure if MP Like REDS or SPACE COWBOYS #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:36 am           



 
@rebelshea: You are not alone. RT @FilmTony: anyone else else hate Magnolia? I love Anderson otherwise, but man I hate that film #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:36 am           



 
@jeannevb: With #SBAN, we started w 1 prot, rewrite to 2, then back to 1... now I'm thinking of adding unicorns & leprechauns #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:36 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @JennaAvery SciFi? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:36 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: Have they made an Easter ensemble movie yet? Probably the only annual event not yet got a film about it. Or is there one? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:37 am           



 
@jeannevb: @nisajaie are just insane :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:37 am           



 
@stuwillis: @SarahAlexis4 I think audiences are a lot more sophisticated with the rise of ensemble storytelling in tv. They demand it. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:37 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @SarahAlexis4 Great question. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:37 am           



 
@FilmTony: @rebelshea thank god... :P #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:37 am           



 
@nisajaie: @jeannevb Lol :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:37 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @EvanRandalGreen Monty Python Search for the Holy Grail, how did you miss the rabbit? [wink] #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:38 am           



 
@JasmineMcAtee2: @EvanRandalGreen Mother's Day is coming next year. I'm sure an Easter ensemble will be the next one made. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:38 am           



 
@jeannevb: I am so brain dead. Been restructuring script for past 7 hrs. I need a drink. Who else? *pours* #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:38 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @Jamie_LD Of course! #timetravel #scifi #ensemble :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:38 am           



 
@stuwillis: Has anyone mentioned Star Wars? Feels at least ensemble to me. Luke, Han Solo, arguably even Leia. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:38 am           



 
@FilmTony: There are a lot more examples in TV, that's for sure. There's just more room to do it. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:38 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: @SarahAlexis4 The story because 2 characters share a traumatic event together. The story follows both characters as dual protag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:38 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @RWWFilm thanks :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:38 am           



 
@rdlln: @SarahAlexis4 for BORN WRONG I had 2 separate ideas with the same theme so combined them into one story with multiple protags #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb Bring me two. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@AnaisFTW: 00@FilmTony Marlin learns to be less over protective. Nemo grows up, and Dory finds out how to remember. Its mainly marlin's thon#Scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@jeannevb: @RWWFilm done #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @JennaAvery Awesome. I think those do well with multi-protag. #timetravel #scifi #ensemble #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: All the Presidents Men was on today.. any tips on writing multi-protag Spy Dramas? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@nisajaie: @jeannevb We need a round for the whole chat group. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@FilmTony: God... must stop RT @JasmineMcAtee2 Mother's Day is coming next year. I'm sure an Easter ensemble will be the next one made. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@PatrickS: I'd say Magnificent 7 is ensemble, w/multiple character arcs. Ocean's 11 has a lead with great supporting cast. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:39 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @MpRodriguez2007 What is the unifying element? Without that, it probably won't hold focus. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:40 am           



 
@rebelshea: @jeannevb Make it a double, please. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:40 am           



 
@AnaisFTW: @FilmTony Marlin learns to be less over protective. Nemo grows up, and Dory finds out how to remember. Its mainly marlin's tho #Scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:40 am           



 
@jeannevb: *pulls out extra big bottle* RT @nisajaie: @jeannevb We need a round for the whole chat group. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:40 am           



 
@RWWFilm: Just because you have a strong supporting char who has an arc, doesn't mean it's multi-protag. Just means it was well written #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:40 am           



 
@HorrorGirlKate: RT @rdlln: The protagonist is the one driving the action not always the hero #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:41 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb I do! Beer/Liquor is all that's left in freezer/fridge after Sandy killed power! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:41 am           



 
@FilmTony: Jerry McGuire counts doesn't it? It's very much Jerry's story, but Rod Tidwell changes a ton too. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:41 am           



 
@rdlln: @stuwillis STAR WARS perfect example of both multi protag and ensemble #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:41 am           



 
@PatrickS: @stuwillis Star Wars definitely Luke's journey. Han, Leia don't even show up until Act 2. Great support, not co-leads. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:41 am           



 
@FilmTony: RT @RWWFilm: Just because you have a strong supporting char who has an arc, doesnt mean its multi-protag. Just well written #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:41 am           



 
@Leemanrhymes: Last 20 mins - what makes a good multi protag story? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:42 am           



 
@RWWFilm: Going for something newer. LOOPER was a dual protag flick w/ only one main character ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:42 am           



 
@nisajaie: @PatrickS Are you referring to the original or remake for Ocean's 11? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:42 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: @CelluloidBlonde The unifying element is that the boy saves the girl from being murder. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:42 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: RT @RWWFilm: Going for something newer. LOOPER was a dual protag flick w/ only one main character ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:42 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: MT @RWWFilm: a strong supporting char who has an arc, doesnt mean its multi-protag... means it was well written #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:42 am           



 
@FilmTony: Mind...blown ha RT @RWWFilm Going for something newer. LOOPER was a dual protag flick w/ only one main character ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:42 am           



 
@CityJohn: @jeannevb @RWWFilm I just got home from reading in the pub. Eyeing up the wine / beer now. Decisions, decisions. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: I feel like there would be a need for multiple outlines too. To cover each protag's arc. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: RT @Leemanrhymes: Last 20 mins - what makes a good multi protag story? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @MpRodriguez2007 That is an inciting event, but if it doesn't follow through during the course of the story? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @rdlln cool, that's an interesting approach. Thanks for sharing. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@mernitman: @judlew RT @jeannevb Absolutely not. We need a support group. My name's Brad...and I didn't like CRASH #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@rebelshea: Empire Strikes Back would be a better example of multi-protag @PatrickS @stuwillis #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @MpRodriguez2007 Then all you have is one common event and two disparate stories wandering off. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@jeannevb: @SarahAlexis4 glad you're back up and running! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:43 am           



 
@stuwillis: Lord of the Rings is multi protagonist for sure. And an ensemble. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:44 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: Great flick! RT @RWWFilm: Going for something newer. LOOPER was a dual protag flick w/ only one main character ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:44 am           



 
@JasmineMcAtee2: @FilmTony Just for you - IMDb says movie is set over Skype/webchat. Real mother/daughter acting pairs. You're welcome. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:44 am           



 
@PatrickS: @nisajaie Remake. Clooney drives story, changes others, they don't change him. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:44 am           



 
@rdlln: @PatrickS @stuwillis yes, but if you look at the original trilogy as one story multiple protags #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:44 am           



 
@jeannevb: How many of you have written a multi-prot spec? What were your greatest challenges? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:44 am           



 
@FilmTony: There are several films where the antagonist if given almost as much time as the protag...but he'd still be an antagonist right? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:45 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: @jeannevb Making sure my characters arc's complicated my protagonists journey. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:45 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb Blood Moon is multi-protag #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:46 am           



 
@jeannevb: @RWWFilm heehee #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:46 am           



 
@willentrekin: “@jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK! Tonight we're discussing multi-protagonists. Chime in at http://t.co/o1d3w5W5”
November 5, 2012, 1:46 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @FilmTony Absolutely. screen time doesn't change the role you play in the story. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:46 am           



 
@FilmTony: @JasmineMcAtee2 Not a fan of those kinds of flicks, though Love Actually did it really well almost a decade ago... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:46 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @jeannevb I have 2 protags in my thriller. Giving equal weight and believable arc was my dilemma. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:46 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Lord of the Rings has an ensemble cast, but one protagonist. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:47 am           



 
@rdlln: @jeannevb transitions / deciding when to cut to other story + how /when to tie together #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:47 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb And the biggest challenge for me was definitely making sure to give each equal time and development #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:47 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: Any opinions on how many protags(storylines) U can write into an International Event Spy movie..Worldwide terrorist common event #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:47 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: And what have you found the advantages to be in using multi protagonists? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:48 am           



 
@princess_scribe: @CelluloidBlonde Sadly, not being as noble. Corrupting minds with liberal thoughts. But saving puppies. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:48 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @Jamie_LD Me too! #timetravel #scifi #ensemble #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:48 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: Definitely. RT @rdlln: @jeannevb transitions / deciding when to cut to other story + how /when to tie together #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:48 am           



 
@tresBren: @leemanrhymes @HBwriterMike #scriptchat multi-protag stories typically require a single goal, theme-connected protags, & plots MUST collide
November 5, 2012, 1:48 am           



 
@rebelshea: @jeannevb Trying it on latest. Having a rough time not favoring one over the other. Balance of the story keeps teeter-tottering. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@marty_lang: @jeannevb My biggest multi-prot issue is trying to balance how much "face time" each one gets in the story. Tough to keep equal. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@UnkScreenwriter: @SarahAlexis4 different povs of getting theme across certainly... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: RT @princess_scribe: Sadly, not being as noble. Corrupting minds with liberal thoughts. But saving puppies. || lulz #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@jeannevb: more options for dreading act 2 :) RT @SarahAlexis4: And what have you found the advantages to be in using multi protagonists? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: @jeannevb thank you! So grateful to be fortunate enough to be up and running! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: @CelluloidBlonde Both characters are connected through this one event. Despite their efforts to disassociate with each other. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@princess_scribe: @CelluloidBlonde :) honestly in post with finished product due in less than three weeks per contract. Nail biting time. ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@FilmTony: Feels like most of my favorite flicks just have really good supporting characters, but one real protagonist (as @RWWFilm noted) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @CelluloidBlonde I've heard Jackson say that in Return of the King the protag switches to Sam because Frodo is too far gone. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @marty_lang I love the balance in the Avengers (and I promise to stop talking about it now) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:49 am           



 
@princess_scribe: Wow. Seeing @CelluloidBlonde here is like old times and pretty darn cool. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:50 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: RT @tresBren: @leemanrhymes @HBwriterMike #scriptchat multi-protag stories typically require a single goal, theme-connected protags, & plots MUST collide
November 5, 2012, 1:50 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: @RWWFilm What about Aragorn? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:50 am           



 
@TooLateToBlink: @rdlln Smokin' Aces was a good example #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:50 am           



 
@FilmTony: @rebelshea @jeannevb Take a look at Jerry McGuire. Tidwell changes and has full arc, but his arc is very influenced by Jerry's #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:50 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: RT @marty_lang: @jeannevb My biggest multi-prot issue is trying to balance how much "face time" each one gets in the story. Tough to keep equal. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:51 am           



 
@willentrekin: RT @jeannevb: more options for dreading act 2 :) RT @SarahAlexis4: And what have you found the advantages to be in using multi protagonists? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:51 am           



 
@MarkBedard: RT @CelluloidBlonde: MT @RWWFilm: a strong supporting char who has an arc, doesnt mean its multi-protag... means it was well written #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:51 am           



 
@nisajaie: @marty_lang Same here. Making sure one doesn't overshadow the other or others. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:51 am           



 
@FilmTony: @rebelshea @jeannevb Also check Pitch Black. Fry and Riddick are in situation, work together, but diff arcs... I think... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:51 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @RWWFilm That is interesting I always wondered how they justified a secondary character taking over @ climax. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:51 am           



 
@ericnjones: @RWWFilm @FilmTony @stuwillis @JennaAvery @PatrickS LOVE Magnolia. It's so kinetic. Great acting, dialogue, visuals, music! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:51 am           



 
@jeannevb: indeed! RT @princess_scribe: Wow. Seeing @CelluloidBlonde here is like old times and pretty darn cool. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:52 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: RT @princess_scribe: Wow. Seeing @CelluloidBlonde here is like old times and pretty darn cool. || Aw thanks. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:52 am           



 
@willentrekin: Have to admit I can't think of any flicks (or stories) with multiple protagonists. @jeannevb @sarahalexis4 #SCRIPTCHAT
November 5, 2012, 1:52 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @EvanRandalGreen Aragorn is a supp. character. He has an arc, but the point of LoTR is taking the ring to modor. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:52 am           



 
@nisajaie: To me the perfect ensemble movie would be like Gosford Park, The Player, Duets, or Love Actually. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:52 am           



 
@jeannevb: @willentrekin I'm so tired tonight, I can't think of how to make a gin & tonic... wait, is THAT a multi-prot? ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:53 am           



 
@FilmTony: @ericnjones @RWWFilm @stuwillis @JennaAvery @PatrickS it's a pile of disingenuous, artificial horseshit..but 2 each their own :P #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:53 am           



  
@nisajaie: @ericnjones I enjoyed Magnolia. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@kimberlyviv: RT @rdlln: RT @JennaAvery: RT @stuwillis Id say that multi-protag are all ensemble films, but not all ensemble films are multi-protag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @jeannevb When all else fails, skip the tonic, pour the gin, call it a martini. [smile] #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@RWWFilm: Throwing this out there. We've listed a lot of multi-portag flicks but no comedies. Anyone have one? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@marty_lang: @JennaAvery Oh, no worries :) Avengers can write the book on multi-prot balance. Such a great film. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@kimberlyviv: RT @rdlln: The protagonist is the one driving the action not always the hero #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: RT @GoIntoTheStory: I will be a #scriptchat guest next Sunday, 8PM Eastern [U.S.]. Subject: Character based approach to screenwriting http://t.co/NoQz4vb7
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@nisajaie: Fight Club still takes the cake on multi-protag! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@JennaAvery: @FilmTony Which movie are we talking about now? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@nisajaie: RT @marty_lang: @JennaAvery Oh, no worries :) Avengers can write the book on multi-prot balance. Such a great film. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@jeannevb: @CelluloidBlonde I knew I loved you :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@rebelshea: No. Clearly the tonic is a supporting character. @jeannevb #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: I see @FilmTony is the shy retiring type. lulz #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:54 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @RWWFilm Hangover? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:55 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: @tresBren Thank you Brrennan.. @Leemanrhymes #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:55 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: @RWWFilm HOT TUB TIME MACHINE? SUPERTROOPER? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:55 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: #scriptchat RT @bjamintucker: @Jamie_LD @RWWFilm Ted?
November 5, 2012, 1:55 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @Jamie_LD I'd consider that ensemble not multi-protag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:55 am           



 
@FilmTony: @CelluloidBlonde Not sure what that means hehe #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:55 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: The protagonist in a story is the character with the biggest problem & the ability to change story outcome. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:55 am           



 
@marty_lang: @nisajaie Though sometimes you want one to overshadow others ... which makes it even harder :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:55 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: *SUPERTROOPERS. There is an "S" on the end. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @RWWFilm True, but I just happen to have it on in the background as I tweet. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@nisajaie: @Jamie_LD Most definitely an ensemble piece. Not a fan of the franchise but I do have to say great balance w/multi characters. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@maryelizathomas: Is anyone else from Toronto area? I'm looking for writers to workshop with...message me if interested.n #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@bjamintucker: Funny People? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@jeannevb: @rebelshea good, bc I'm out of it #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@marty_lang: Anyone ever see 11:14? That's a great multi-prot film; you follow 5 prots over 5 short films, and they all overlap #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@JasmineMcAtee2: @RWWFilm Romy & Michele's High School Reunion? Ha. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@nisajaie: Rock of Ages had a good balance. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:56 am           



 
@RWWFilm: RT @CelluloidBlonde: The protagonist in a story is the character with the biggest problem & the ability to change story outcome. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:57 am           



 
@FilmTony: @bjamintucker Hmmm, Funny People could count... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:57 am           



 
@willentrekin: RT @jeannevb: @willentrekin I'm so tired tonight, I can't think of how to make a gin & tonic... wait, is THAT a multi-prot? ;) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:57 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: At the bottom of the hour we have guest Jeanne Simon of TV Pitch School on #tvwriterchat #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:57 am           



 
@EvanRandalGreen: BREAKFAST CLUB - Multi-protag? Or ensemble? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:57 am           



 
@FilmTony: @bjamintucker Weird thing is that Funny People technically counts but in thinking back...it felt like Sandler's journey. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:57 am           



 
@rdlln: @RWWFilm VALENTINE'S DAY #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:57 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: RT @TooLateToBlink: @RWWFilm @Jamie_LD What about 'Crazy, Stupid Love'? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:57 am           



 
@Leemanrhymes: Horrible Bossesn #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@ericnjones: @jeannevb Had to establish hierarchies to keep things clean & tidy, so in effect it became ONE protag surrounded by bit players! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@willentrekin: @jeannevb Nah. Tonic supports! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @JasmineMcAtee2 Excellent! #scriptchat I was going to go w/ Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: @Steven_PHV "..if it'd confuse my Mum.." is great common sense advice! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @nisajaie is nailing ensemble films. Nice. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@nisajaie: @marty_lang That is true. Lol. :) #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@Jamie_LD: @RWWFilm Dumb and Dumber? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@TooLateToBlink: @rdlln @RWWFilm and Love Actually #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@IndiesUnchained: Hey #writers, there's a great tweet-style discussion happening right now about multiple protags. Follow #scriptchat. We're taking notes!
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: RT @EvanRandalGreen: BREAKFAST CLUB - Multi-protag? Or ensemble? || Ensemble #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:58 am           



 
@MonaLiNYC: @RWWFilm Hot Tub Time Machine? Tropic Thunder? Multi-protag comedies #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:59 am           



 
@Christina8ryant: RT @IndiesUnchained: Hey #writers, there's a great tweet-style discussion happening right now about multiple protags. Follow #scriptchat. We're taking notes!
November 5, 2012, 1:59 am           



 
@JasmineMcAtee2: @RWWFilm In that same field, Bio-dome? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:59 am           



 
@jeannevb: @IndiesUnchained and we'll have a transcript up later on http://t.co/NzcyzhrG #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:59 am           



 
@willentrekin: @thisbrokenwheel @jeannevb @sarahalexis4 Haven't seen Looper, but the girl was Cabin in the Woods' protag. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:59 am           



 
@nisajaie: @Leemanrhymes Horrible Bosses was great overall. LMBO! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 1:59 am           



 
@IndiesUnchained: RT @jeannevb: @IndiesUnchained and we'll have a transcript up later on http://t.co/NzcyzhrG #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @MonaLiNYC I'd still put those into ensemble rather than multi-protag #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@nisajaie: The Diner...another ensemble piece that was perfect. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@rdlln: .@stuwillis & @mclayfield's PAYLOAD is so well written the secondary characters could be mistaken for protags #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@ILikeFilms: RT @grking: bookmarked “@rdlln: 6 Easy Ways To Write Better Dialogue by @ScootyWoopEnt http://t.co/sCkdxR83 #scriptchat”
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@FilmTony: @nisajaie mostly agree, but I kinda walked away wanting to see the bosses being horrible more often hehe #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: @IndiesUnchained It's partly about Multi-Protags but mostly about Gin.. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @JasmineMcAtee2 Tommy Boy? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: RT @nisajaie: The Diner...another ensemble piece that was perfect. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:00 am           



 
@SarahAlexis4: Nice chatting w/you all! Sry if there was a lag tweeting from my phone. Good luck to those working on multi protag scripts! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:01 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: RT @HBwriterMike: @IndiesUnchained Its partly about Multi-Protags but mostly about Gin.. || funny #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:01 am           



 
@nisajaie: Of course The Five Heartbeats was another ensemble piece. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:01 am           



 
@art1032: @Jamie_LD @RWWFilm I agree on Dumb and Dumber but did NOT like that movie lol yikes. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:01 am           



 
@ericnjones: @willentrekin @jeannevb @SarahAlexis4 Robert Altman's NASHVILLE (1975). In fact, many Altman's films are multi-protags #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:01 am           



 
@Christina8ryant: RT @jeannevb: @IndiesUnchained and we'll have a transcript up later on http://t.co/NzcyzhrG #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:01 am           



 
@jeannevb: And the bewitching hour is here! Thanks to all who participated tonight! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:01 am           



 
@nisajaie: @SarahAlexis4 You take care out there! You got your power back yet? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@nisajaie: RT @jeannevb: And the bewitching hour is here! Thanks to all who participated tonight! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@JasmineMcAtee2: @RWWFilm Nice! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@HBwriterMike: Thanks #scriptchat and the very best to you writers out there on the east coast recovering from Sandy.. good night
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@MarkBedard: RT @GangemiTony: @jeannevb Great topic. I think believable arcs for each protagonist and a theme that links them is a good place to start. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@FilmTony: Zombie time! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@bjamintucker: Plane, trains and auto.... #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@jeannevb: Don't miss nxt wk's chat with @GoIntoTheStory as our guest! Talking char-based approach to screenwriting #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@RWWFilm: @jeannevb Good job everyone! Thanks for the observations and comments #AsAlways #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@art1032: Thanks #scriptchat good chat:)
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @jeannevb It was fun, thanks for the chat. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:02 am           



 
@MpRodriguez2007: It was great chatting with you all. Great insights for everyone. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:03 am           



 
@nisajaie: Had fun guys! Everyone have a productive and awesome week! I am off to finishing up Act 2 for my comedy #writersgroup02 script. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:03 am           



 
@willentrekin: Wait: lied. Multi protags: two-face, riddler; mr freeze, poison ivy. Ra's al, Scarecrow. Batman isn't a protag, of course. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:03 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: RT @jeannevb: Dont miss nxt wks chat with @GoIntoTheStory as our guest! Talking char-based approach to screenwriting #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:03 am           



 
@nisajaie: RT @jeannevb: Dont miss nxt wks chat with @GoIntoTheStory as our guest! Talking char-based approach to screenwriting #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:03 am           



 
@jeannevb: @CelluloidBlonde and you made it better. Thx so much for popping in! #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:04 am           



 
@RWWFilm: RT @jeannevb: Don't miss nxt wk's chat with @GoIntoTheStory as our guest! Talking char-based approach to screenwriting #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:04 am           



 
@BrowneTom: Parenthood is a great ensemble/ multi-protag movie. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:04 am           



 
@Linder_writer: @jeannevb mine is a buddy film. I try to treat them both as one entity. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:04 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @jeannevb Oh, definitely, whenever I can, it's great to stop in and catch up. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:05 am           



 
@nisajaie: RT @HBwriterMike: Thanks #scriptchat & the very best to you writers out there on the east coast recovering from Sandy..good nite #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:05 am           



 
@willentrekin: RT @ericnjones: @willentrekin @jeannevb @SarahAlexis4 Robert Altman's NASHVILLE (1975). In fact, many Altman's films are multi-protags #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:05 am           



 
@Linder_writer: @RWWFilm wedding crashers? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:05 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @Linder_writer That will not work. If they act as one entity, they may as well be one character. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:06 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @Linder_writer There has to be one goal, but division and juxtaposition of character for two protags to work. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:06 am           



 
@goodmelon: 2 main characters share = time and have common goal that's a buddy film? But if they had diff. goals it would be a multi-prot? #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:06 am           



 
@RWWFilm: RT @CelluloidBlonde: @Linder_writer There has to be one goal, but division and juxtaposition of character for two protags to work. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:07 am           



 
@willentrekin: @ericnjones @jeannevb @sarahalexis4 Does Altman even write protagonists? No real a-story. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:07 am           



 
@rdlln: @stuwillis @mclayfield no, halfway through. Was planning to read more tonight but gave in to #scriptchat + #twitteraddiction
November 5, 2012, 2:07 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: @goodmelon A buddy film is a multi protagonist script. Two is multiple. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:07 am           



 
@mjferreiro: @CelluloidBlonde and may not be the main character #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:08 am           



 
@SellerGuy1: RT @GangemiTony: @jeannevb Great topic. I think believable arcs for each protagonist and a theme that links them is a good place to start. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:09 am           



 
@CelluloidBlonde: Okay I am off. Thanks for the chat. Write like God. #scriptchat
November 5, 2012, 2:09 am

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