#Scriptchat TOPIC: Comedy writing
EURO comedy guest Paul Bassett Davies @thewritertype and USA guest Steve Kaplan @SKCOMEDY rocked the house! Read both transcripts to get the global view on what makes for good comedy writing (bios HERE) @jeannevb
EURO moderator: Mina Zaher, @DreamsGrafter
USA moderator: Jeanne Veillette Bowerman, @jeannevb
EURO CHAT:
7:00 pm DreamsGrafter: #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK - Time to talk comedy writing with @thewritertype aka Paul Bassett-Davies.
7:00 pm DreamsGrafter: @zacsanford2 Hi Zac, thanks for trying to get here. #scriptchat
7:02 pm DreamsGrafter: Hi @thewritertype, thanks for joining us tonight! I find writing comedy so hard. What's the 1st piece of advice you give #scriptchat?
7:02 pm booksbelow: Ok, ready for some #scriptchat wisdom! #scriptchat
7:03 pm thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat There's no hyphen in my name. What kind of start is that? Getting my billing wrong.
7:03 pm GoIntoTheStory: Voting for Sept. 5th @scriptchat 'bad screenplay' discussion down to "Dune," "2012," & "The Bounty Hunter". http://bit.ly/b0NBdQ #scriptchat
7:04 pm Bang2write: @thewritertype @Dreamsgrafter Hyphens are the work of Satan!!! #scriptchat
7:04 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype Haha. *slap wrist* I almost forgot the 'e' in Davies too. ;) #scriptchat
7:04 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @GoIntoTheStory: Voting for Sept. 5th @scriptchat 'bad screenplay' discussion down to "Dune," "2012," & "The Bounty Hunter". http://bit.ly/b0NBdQ #scriptchat
7:05 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Hi Lucy! #scriptchat
7:05 pm DreamsGrafter: I heard someone say that if you want to write comedy, work w/ a comedian. #scriptchat
7:06 pm thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat Writing comedy is the same as any type of writing: persevere. One day you'll be funny.
7:06 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter hi mina, what are we talking about tonite? (as well as that reprobate @thewritertype?) #scriptchat
7:07 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype Do you think your theatre background helped w/ writing comedy? - i.e. that stand up comedy mentality. #scriptchat
7:07 pm nate_winslow: RT @GoIntoTheStory: Voting for Sept. 5th #scriptchat 'bad screenplay' discussion down to DUNE, 2012, THE BOUNTY HUNTER. http://bit.ly/b0NBdQ
7:08 pm thewritertype: Yes, but they're mostly miserable. RT @DreamsGrafter: I heard that if you want to write comedy, work w/ a comedian. #scriptchat
7:08 pm Bang2write: @thewritertype surely there will always be writers who suck balls at comedy? (Yet are great @ thriller, etc). How can they tell? #scriptchat
7:09 pm johnrackham: Hi. I'm here for #scriptchat I might be a bit quiet as I have slightly buggered up my fingers jumping out of a tree.
7:09 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Haha, we're talking comedy writing w/ @thewritertype. He's got quite a CV: http://bit.ly/aLYu3W #scriptchat
7:10 pm RTcomedy: RT @DreamsGrafter @bang2write haha, we're talking comedy writing w/ @thewritertype. he's got quite a cv: http://bit.ly/alyu3w #scriptchat
7:10 pm thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat Theatre b/ground helps. When writing always read it out loud, play with timing, voices etc.
7:10 pm Bang2write: When I read comedies, they're rarely funny ON THE PAGE. So much depends on delivery. Surely read-thrus best? #scriptchat
7:10 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype I find writing dark stuff easier than writing funny stuff. But find there is a fine line between the 2 sometimes. #scriptchat
7:11 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype Do you consciously tip the balance towards the humour instead of the horror? #scriptchat
7:11 pm booksbelow: @thewritertype Do you think a GOOD comedy is one of the most difficult genres to write? #scriptchat
7:11 pm Bang2write: And when they're funny on the page, this doesn't mean they're funny when acted. What to do? Comedy seems special case to me #scriptchat
7:11 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2write: When I read comedies, they're rarely funny ON THE PAGE. So much depends on delivery. Surely read-thrus best? #scriptchat
7:12 pm thewritertype: RT @thewritertype: @Bang2write If no one is laughing after the first twenty years, give up. #scriptchat
7:12 pm DreamsGrafter: @johnrackham Ouch! Hope it gets better soon John. Have you thought about writing comedy? #scriptchat
7:13 pm booksbelow: @thewritertype Do you feel the pressure today to be funny here as well as informative :-) #scriptchat
7:13 pm Bang2write: tho *good* dialogue in general has high dependancy on delivery (which all writers forget), maybe it's all the same really #scriptchat
7:13 pm thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat For me nearly all good comedy has macabre/dark elements. Comedy involves power and pain.
7:13 pm johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter I've written live sketch comedy. That's how I got my Equity card #scriptchat
7:14 pm booksbelow: RT @thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter For me nearly all good comedy has macabre/dark elements. Comedy involves power and pain. #scriptchat
7:14 pm thewritertype: Yes. Thanks. I'll relax. RT @booksbelow: Do you feel the pressure today to be funny here as well as informative :-) #scriptchat
7:14 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype There are so many different types of humour too. Which do you specialise in and why? #scriptchat
7:15 pm DreamsGrafter: @johnrackham Oh wow, that's cool. And you starred in it? #scriptchat
7:15 pm thewritertype: Very good way 2 start. RT @johnrackham: @DreamsGrafter I've written live sketch comedy. That's how I got my Equity card #scriptchat
7:15 pm ScriptCoach: @Bang2write Comedy requires reader and writer to step into the shoes of an actor and imagine possible deliveries. #scriptchat
7:15 pm zacsanford2: Hello all... on a spotty WiFi connection. Can't wait to hear the words of wisdom from @thewritetype since I mainly write comedy #scriptchat
7:16 pm TheWriteScript: Hey all! Lurking... #scriptchat
7:16 pm ScriptCoach: @Bang2write Yeah, but good dialogue is good dialogue regardless of delivery. Good comedy is good timing is good delivery. #scriptchat
7:17 pm thewritertype: @Bang2write #scriptchat "Funny" is subjective, so sometimes hard to see on page. But the craft can be recognized.
7:17 pm janetvaneeden: RT @thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat Theatre b/ground helps. When writing always read it out loud, play with timing, voices etc.
7:17 pm DreamsGrafter: Hi @ScriptCoach @zacsanford2 @TheWriteScript - Welcome! #scriptchat
7:17 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @booksbelow: RT @thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter For me nearly all good comedy has macabre/dark elements. Comedy involves power and pain. #scriptchat
7:17 pm Bang2write: @ScriptCoach in an ideal world, for sure - esp if writer & reader working together. If script is a "cold read" tho? #scriptchat
7:18 pm janetvaneeden: RT @DreamsGrafter: #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK - Time to talk comedy writing with @thewritertype aka Paul Bassett-Davies.
7:18 pm fnafilms: Loving #scriptchat - drop in all you filmy/ writery types
7:18 pm Bang2write: @ScriptCoach @thewritertype definitely, I think craft is the big *thing* on the page #scriptchat
7:18 pm thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat Like any writing, you can cross genres/styles but a 'voice' emerges - if you're good.
7:18 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype When writing comedy, do you try to get in so many verbal/visual gags per minute? #scriptchat
7:18 pm zacsanford2: I'd say about 1 out of 10 "comedy" scripts actually make me laugh while reading. Sometimes not intentional of the writer. #scriptchat
7:19 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat Like any writing, you can cross genres/styles but a 'voice' emerges - if you're good.
7:19 pm Bang2write: I had a comedy writing tutor who recommended writing a joke payoff FIRST, then going bkwards. do you do this, @thewritertype? #scriptchat
7:19 pm thewritertype: My condolences. RT @zacsanford2: Hello. Can't wait to hear the words of wisdom from @thewritetype since I mainly write comedy #scriptchat
7:19 pm ScriptCoach: @Bang2write I meant from both parties separately. If they're together, they should just act it out. ;) #scriptchat
7:19 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @zacsanford2: I'd say about 1 out of 10 "comedy" scripts actually make me laugh while reading. Sometimes not intentional of the writer. #scriptchat
7:19 pm janetvaneeden: RT @thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat For me nearly all good comedy has macabre/dark elements. Comedy involves power and pain.
7:20 pm zacsanford2: RT @thewritertype: Like any writing, you can cross genres/styles but a voice emerges - if youre good. #scriptchat
7:20 pm DreamsGrafter: @fnafilms Hey there, welcome! :) #scriptchat
7:21 pm johnrackham: It is subjective. A script which went down brilliantly live was rejected by BBC radio as containing 'one good joke' #scriptchat
7:21 pm thewritertype: @Bang2write #scriptchat yes, often think of payoff and then work back, but you need to be careful not to let it show.
7:21 pm fnafilms: Why do people insist in "gags" in comedy writing? Lots of comedy isn't gag based. #scriptchat
7:21 pm booksbelow: @thewritertype What are some of your favorite comedies and why? #scriptchat
7:22 pm janetvaneeden: #scriptchat I love writing comedy and usually find it's as @thewritertype says, it comes from a dark place. If you don't laugh, you'd cry
7:22 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @fnafilms: Why do people insist in "gags" in comedy writing? Lots of comedy isn't gag based. #scriptchat
7:23 pm DreamsGrafter: @janetvaneeden Welcome! So you've got your computer back? #scriptchat
7:23 pm ScriptCoach: @fnafilms The best comedy contains every form of comedy in just the right mix and with some drama thrown in to keep it together. #scriptchat
7:23 pm Bang2write: I often get told my dialogue is funny (in a good way, apparently) - and this pees me off no end! LOL #scriptchat
7:24 pm thewritertype: #scriptchat @booksbelow I love a lot of US stuff: 30 Rock, Curb, Family Guy, and many more. UK has a few interesting ones.
7:24 pm WriterChanelle: So happy I get to follow the Euro #scriptchat for the first time ever!
7:24 pm janetvaneeden: @DreamsGrafter I've got a new laptop Mina! I'm so happy I could almost not punctuate for a few days. Nice #scriptchat! Adore comedy.
7:24 pm Bang2write: @ScriptCoach sure that's the ideal - but if your senses of humour aren't the same, it can be hit and miss #scriptchat
7:24 pm thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat. It depends on genre. "A sitcom is story told in jokes." And you must have gags in sitcom.
7:24 pm jazadal: .@Bang2write re: funny on the page v screen. Just read The Hangover+in process of analysis. Script ain't funny at all. #scriptchat
7:25 pm dennajones: You want a good US TV comedy? Parks & Recreation. @thewritertype #scriptchat #comedy
7:25 pm Bang2write: @ScriptCoach @fnafilms I think all the best comedies have a dose of pathos, too #scriptchat
7:25 pm DreamsGrafter: @ScriptCoach Yes, my fave comedies all have a strong story at the heart of it - i.e. not just a series of gags. #scriptchat
7:26 pm Bang2write: @jazadal I didn't really like the film, either!! ; ) #scriptchat
7:26 pm ScriptCoach: @Bang2write That's where professionalism comes in, the ability to recognise an audience might find it funny even if you don't. #scriptchat
7:26 pm DreamsGrafter: @janetvaneeden Brilliant! #scriptchat
7:26 pm janetvaneeden: RT @thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat. It depends on genre. "A sitcom is story told in jokes." And you must have gags in sitcom.
7:26 pm DreamsGrafter: @dennajones Hi there, welcome to EURO #scriptchat! :)
7:26 pm thewritertype: Heard it's good. RT @dennajones: You want a good US TV comedy? Parks & Recreation. @thewritertype #scriptchat #comedy
7:27 pm DreamsGrafter: @jazadal Welcome to EURO #scriptchat! :)
7:27 pm zacsanford2: I can't get into this show. RT @dennajones: You want a good US TV comedy? Parks & Recreation. @thewritertype #scriptchat
7:27 pm davidpbaker: RT @DreamsGrafter: @jazadal Welcome to EURO #scriptchat! :)
7:27 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype I heard tht in TV, they get a highlighter and mark out the gags per page. i.e. you need so many. #scriptchat
7:28 pm dennajones: Parks & Recreation not gag led, but has the pathos and hopelessness needed for good comedy. #scriptchat
7:29 pm DreamsGrafter: Interesting. 'Cause a v. funny film! RT @jazadal: Just read The Hangover+in process of analysis. Script ain't funny at all. #scriptchat
7:29 pm ScriptCoach: @DreamsGrafter I've never worked like that, but rule of thumb is 1 joke per page/minute. My personal rule: the more the merrier. #scriptchat
7:29 pm janetvaneeden: @thewritertype #scriptchat Agree that it arises from character. Stuck on jokes are the ones that make sitcoms lame. Or comedic films lame
7:29 pm thewritertype: #scriptchat Comedy films are different to sitcom - not about the gags. But it's ALL about character and story.
7:29 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat Comedy films are different to sitcom - not about the gags. But it's ALL about character and story.
7:30 pm johnrackham: I quite enjoy pastiche in comedy. My favourite 'The Big Lebowski' structured like a Chandler detective story with a twist. #scriptchat.
7:30 pm booksbelow: @thewritertype Did you like the classic "Are You Being Served"? #scriptchat
7:30 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @ScriptCoach: @DreamsGrafter I've never worked like that, but rule of thumb is 1 joke per page/minute. My personal rule: the more the merrier. #scriptchat
7:30 pm ScriptCoach: @dennajones Which is what might put some people off. It's not what traditional comedy is about & takes getting used to. #scriptchat
7:30 pm zacsanford2: One thing I've noticed with American comedies lately... the laughs start out strong in the beginning and then taper off. #scriptchat
7:30 pm Bang2write: @ScriptCoach yes, that's true - and defo if it's been commissioned already or in serious development with a prodco. #scriptchat
7:30 pm DreamsGrafter: @ScriptCoach Do you include visual comedy in that 1 joke per page? #scriptchat
7:30 pm janetvaneeden: @thewritertype #scriptchat Jokes must come from the outside in, no? Not the other way around? Arise out of situation + char + circumstance?
7:31 pm momentsoffilm: Good heavens! Is it half past #scriptchat already. Hello all!
7:31 pm thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat In sitcom, aim is for 1 gag every 15 seconds. Check out the classics: bang, bang, bang.
7:31 pm Bang2write: @ScriptCoach but spec-wise, isn't recognising humour the same as findin those other elusive things like talent or a good story? #scriptchat
7:32 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype U've got a long career in comedy. How wld you say commissioned comedy? i.e. political correctness? dumbing down? #scriptchat
7:32 pm dennajones: @scriptcoach true, Parks & Recreation is not trad TV #comedy. Subtle, slightly sad humour. Perhaps that's what I like. #scriptchat
7:32 pm DreamsGrafter: @momentsoffilm Hi Leilani! #scriptchat
7:32 pm thewritertype: No. But a lot of people did. RT @booksbelow: @thewritertype Did you like the classic "Are You Being Served"? #scriptchat
7:33 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat In sitcom, aim is for 1 gag every 15 seconds. Check out the classics: bang, bang, bang.
7:33 pm ScriptCoach: @DreamsGrafter Look at Police Squad/Naked Gun, though. Jokes come from everywhere! #scriptchat
7:34 pm zacsanford2: Since USA/UK have different comedy sensibilities, how does one write comedy that is universal? #scriptchat
7:34 pm ScriptCoach: @Bang2write It's just as elusive, yeah. Even more so, really, because good comedy needs good story & talent, too. #scriptchat
7:35 pm thewritertype: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat: Didn't quite understand yr last question re politics, commission, etc/
7:35 pm momentsoffilm: I take it we're talking comedy. I'm rubbish at comedy. I only manage it by saying outrageous things very seriously. :D #scriptchat
7:35 pm DreamsGrafter: Visual gags? RT @zacsanford2: Since USA/UK have different comedy sensibilities, how does one write comedy that is universal? #scriptchat
7:35 pm fnafilms: How about Curb - hugely successful and acclaimed but not full of gags... #scriptchat
7:35 pm jazadal: @DreamsGrafter thrilled to be here thanks, as I enjoy a home-cooked Persian meal of gourmet sabzi. #scriptchat
7:35 pm ScriptCoach: @thewritertype Ah, which is where most Dutch comedy fails. They aim for no more than 1 per minute. More=more! #scriptchat
7:36 pm LisaFromNYC: late to the party. #ScriptChat
7:36 pm Sofluid: @thewritertype Do you think comedy is more about situations than witty dialogue, or vice versa? Or is it an even split? #scriptchat
7:36 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype Sorry, I meant to ask has comedy changed over the years? what we find funny? What gets commissioned? #scriptchat
7:36 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype And has any growing trends affected your writing? #scriptchat
7:37 pm ImplausibleD: Comedy = timing. Good scripts = good timing in dialogue & action, but you need an actor/reader who has the same rhythm as you. #scriptchat
7:37 pm RaidPoint: It is very British and an acquired taste: @thewritertype No. :@booksbelow: @thewritertype Did you like "Are you being served" #scriptchat
7:37 pm DreamsGrafter: @Sofluid @LisaFromNYC Hey gals, welcome! #scriptchat
7:37 pm thewritertype: #scriptchat. Comedy set-ups are timeless. Even new 'leftfield'. 'Peepshow' is 'about' 2 guys sharing a flat = The Odd Couple.
7:37 pm ScriptCoach: @momentsoffilm That's outrageous... #scriptchat
7:37 pm Envyas: @zacsanford2 USA comedies work more here in India since they are more physical I guess. UK are usually dialogue based. #scriptchat
7:38 pm zacsanford2: @fnafilms Curb is one of my all-time favourite (did I use the U correctly, since I'm a Yank) comedies. #scriptchat
7:38 pm DreamsGrafter: Love tht! Quite visual. Translates universally RT @fnafilms: How abt Curb - hugely successful & acclaimed but not full of gags. #scriptchat
7:38 pm dennajones: Peep Show. Now there's a brilliant UK #TV #comedy. #scriptchat
7:38 pm momentsoffilm: Yeah, like that! :D RT @ScriptCoach: @momentsoffilm That's outrageous... #scriptchat
7:39 pm janetvaneeden: @thewritertype Which are your favourite comedies and why? Sitcoms and films. I know it's a big question!! :) #scriptchat
7:39 pm DavidGraziano: @Sofluid Split, but dialogue sure helps #scriptchat
7:39 pm booksbelow: @RaidPoint It was a big hit here in the States, though. (Being Served) #scriptchat
7:39 pm RaidPoint: @Envyas yeah, so true. #scriptchat
7:40 pm thewritertype: @zacsanford2 #scriptchat I think the US/UK comedy sensibilities are getting less different. And some comedy is universal.
7:40 pm RaidPoint: @booksbelow it was. sorta like 'allo 'allo. just one of those things that happen. #scriptchat
7:40 pm thewritertype: Yes. I'm getting older. RT @DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype And has any growing trends affected your writing? #scriptchat
7:40 pm DreamsGrafter: @Envyas What about Mr. Bean? I think his global success proved the power of physical comedy. Everyone cld understand it. #scriptchat
7:41 pm DreamsGrafter: So great to see new tweeps here on EURO #SCRIPTCHAT! Welcome! xo
7:42 pm momentsoffilm: @RaidPoint I was saying this morning how much I loved Alllo Allo. Vastly funny through repetition. #scriptchat
7:42 pm RaidPoint: @thewritertype especially like that the exchange is now bi-directional. uk adpating us stuff n vice versa. #scriptchat
7:42 pm nicalderton: @thewritertype Were some US to UK remakes which reveal differences. Some worked, others not. The Office / The IT Crowd / Spaced #scriptchat
7:42 pm zacsanford2: Jim Carrey too? RT @DreamsGrafter: @Envyas What about Mr. Bean? I think his global success proved the power of physical comedy. #scriptchat
7:42 pm momentsoffilm: Likewise.. hallo noobs! RT @DreamsGrafter: So great to see new tweeps here on EURO #SCRIPTCHAT! Welcome! xo
7:42 pm fnafilms: @zacsanford2 - the U was right! But it's okay if you leave it out! #scriptchat.
7:42 pm ScriptCoach: @DreamsGrafter Which is where the first Bean movie failed. It moved away from the physical and became too plot driven/drivel. #scriptchat
7:43 pm DreamsGrafter: Interesting comparing British & US comedy. US trend is about going all out: i.e. gross out/bromance - what's the British trend? #scriptchat
7:43 pm thewritertype: 'Larry' is an archetypal clown: no filters, toxic social disaster. RT @fnafilms: Curb - successful but not full of gags. #scriptchat
7:43 pm Envyas: @fnafilms @zacsanford2 I think the US is more visual because of a great college audience that is catered to majorly by studios. #scriptchat
7:43 pm DreamsGrafter: Absolutely! RT @zacsanford2: Jim Carrey too? RT @DreamsGrafter: @Envyas What about Mr. Bean? success of physical comedy. #scriptchat
7:44 pm jazadal: Growing up in U.S,, was in awe of English humor: Python, Fawlty, Served, silly, wit, sarcasm, spoke to me. Where did it go? #scriptchat
7:44 pm RaidPoint: @thewritertype :@DreamsGrafter think the biggest change is that everything gets 2 dissected n ple go up in a hue n cry over all #scriptchat
7:44 pm DreamsGrafter: @zacsanford2 Jim Carrey and Mr. Bean are my mother's faves for that reason. They love 'em in the Philippines. #scriptchat
7:45 pm TheWriteScript: What are some of the biggest mistakes we make in our comedy scripts? Anything particular to watch out for? #scriptchat
7:45 pm ScriptCoach: @DreamsGrafter British comedy is traditionally more farcical, I'd say. And at the same time more language dependent. #scriptchat
7:46 pm zacsanford2: Using the cliched joke/outcome. RT @TheWriteScript: What are some of the biggest mistakes we make in our comedy scripts? #scriptchat
7:46 pm DreamsGrafter: @Envyas @fnafilms @zacsanford2 What abt legacy of Laurel &Hardy, Harold Lloyd & Chaplin (albeit British but Hollywood success)? #scriptchat
7:46 pm Envyas: @DreamsGrafter @fnafilms @zacsanford2 Phy comedy will never die,bt needs an incredible talent a la Carrey/Atkinson who're rare #scriptchat
7:46 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @TheWriteScript: What are some of the biggest mistakes we make in our comedy scripts? Anything particular to watch out for? #scriptchat
7:46 pm thewritertype: @nicalderton #scriptchat. 1st season of US 'Office' failed Then they evolved character: more complex, more empathy....
7:46 pm ScriptCoach: @TheWriteScript Forced comedy (poor execution/set-up), lack of character and lack of story are the worst offenders. #scriptchat
7:47 pm mona_benjamin: @Bang2write @DreamsGrafter Not worked on much comedy but do feel it comes alive at read-throughs #scriptchat
7:47 pm momentsoffilm: I'd say the British trend is stereotypes and farce with a bit of slapstick thrown in for good measure. #scriptchat
7:47 pm thewritertype: @ImplausibleD #scriptchat. I know when I'm reading a good comedy script. Not about gags; more about rhythm, style, tone.
7:48 pm DreamsGrafter: @ScriptCoach Apart from Mr. Bean, I agree esp. Monty Python era. But 2day's Brit comedies in film have lost their edge methinks. #scriptchat
7:48 pm momentsoffilm: We've lost a lot of sarcasm and pathos that used to be in comedy here. We used to have more dark stuff, it's faded out. #scriptchat
7:48 pm Envyas: @DreamsGrafter @zacsanford2 Exactly. Great comic geniuses. Studios can't come up with them always, so the 'bgrossmance' route ;) #scriptchat
7:48 pm Michael_R_Grant: Hi, @thewritertype. Do you tend to think of gags while you're writing a script, or are they mostly pre-planned? #scriptchat
7:48 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat hello folks, I'm a bit late to the party, did you save me some nibbles?
7:49 pm zacsanford2: In US comedy writing rooms, they'll yell out "clam" whenever someone suggests a cliched or on the nose joke. #scriptchat
7:49 pm RaidPoint: @zacsanford2 not always though. lots of episodes of Hancock's half hour used lots of cliches but still worked #scriptchat
7:49 pm ScriptCoach: @mona_benjamin Definitely. Added a small gag to a script once which the writer doubted until it cracked up the read-through. #scriptchat
7:49 pm mona_benjamin: @Bang2write @DreamsGrafter So much seems to depend on unexpected responses/interaction off the page #scriptchat
7:50 pm momentsoffilm: @filmutopia We did.. and lashings and lashings of ginger beer (non alcoholic) #scriptchat
7:50 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat oooooo! comedy! Brilliant... er, simple really, you're either funny or you're not. Not something you can learn.
7:50 pm DreamsGrafter: @Envyas Got it! #scriptchat (@zacsanford)
7:50 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @zacsanford2: In US comedy writing rooms, they'll yell out "clam" whenever someone suggests a cliched or on the nose joke. #scriptchat
7:50 pm thewritertype: @dennajones #scriptchat. The criterion for every frame of Mr Bean film is how it plays on an international air flight.
7:50 pm dennajones: @momentsoffilm farce, slapstick, stereotypes? You talking 1970s UK #comedy? cuz that's not the trend now. #scriptchat
7:50 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @thewritertype: @ImplausibleD #scriptchat. I know when I'm reading a good comedy script. Not about gags; more about rhythm, style, tone.
7:50 pm ScriptCoach: @DreamsGrafter Because they tend to move towards Hollywood for commercial reasons, which means a certain blandness. #scriptchat
7:50 pm Michael_R_Grant: @mona_benjamin Like the UK Office: "Tim reacts." #scriptchat
7:51 pm Envyas: @TheWriteScript @zacsanford2 A big mistake is to forget comedy is abt characters, not gags.Gags have 2 organically come frm char #scriptchat
7:51 pm RaidPoint: @ScriptCoach very true #scriptchat
7:51 pm DreamsGrafter: @mona_benjamin @filmutopia Hi guys! *passes nibbles* #scriptchat #party
7:51 pm LSOwen: @thewritertype I agree. The less gags / jokes the better. It's more about character circumstance, actions / reactions, timing #scriptchat
7:51 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @ScriptCoach: @TheWriteScript Forced comedy (poor execution/set-up), lack of character and lack of story are the worst offenders. #scriptchat
7:51 pm dennajones: @thewritertype you may be right about Mr Bean and airplanes, but if so would prefer vintage Jerry Lewis. #comedy #scriptchat
7:51 pm chained: #scriptchat I stopped watching #datenight after 40mins as it wasn't very good , is it funny to Americans only ?
7:51 pm DreamsGrafter: @mona_benjamin They must be good to sit on in - when the comedy is working. #scriptchat
7:51 pm fnafilms: RT @Envyas: @TheWriteScript @zacsanford2 A big mistake is to forget comedy is abt characters, not gags.Gags have 2 organically come frm char #scriptchat
7:52 pm fnafilms: RT @ScriptCoach: @TheWriteScript Forced comedy (poor execution/set-up), lack of character and lack of story are the worst offenders. #scriptchat
7:52 pm thewritertype: Maybe. @Envyas: @fnafilms @zacsanford2 US is more visual because of college audience catered to majorly by studios. #scriptchat
7:52 pm mona_benjamin: @ScriptCoach For sure--I think forced, non-organic comedy is cringeworthy. And yet, many viewers seem not to feel this! #scriptchat
7:52 pm rikup: It's sad how the visual approach has almost disappeared from comedy... it's a lot about word games and pranks nowadays. #scriptchat
7:53 pm DreamsGrafter: @RaidPoint I LOVE Hancock. The Rebel is one of my favourite films. #scriptchat
7:53 pm momentsoffilm: @dennajones You think? But shows like 'Little Britain' are full of it. #scriptchat
7:53 pm ScriptCoach: @RaidPoint Ah, but when did they become clichéd? ;) #scriptchat
7:54 pm RaidPoint: @ScriptCoach good point! dunno. probably when we all became hollywood mad? #scriptchat
7:54 pm DreamsGrafter: I agree. RT @rikup: sad how the visual approach almost disappeared fr comedy. it's a lot about word games and pranks nowadays. #scriptchat
7:54 pm robertHarper: @filmutopia Hmm, woken up from post editing slumber to discover I've missed most of #scriptchat too. Darn it. And now you've made me hungry.
7:54 pm booksbelow: @thewritertype Is there a different structure to comedy than other types of scripts? #scriptchat
7:55 pm thewritertype: @TheWriteScript: Biggest mistakes - too long, too self-indulgent. Clever isn't as funny as funny. #scriptchat
7:55 pm DreamsGrafter: Five more minutes to go ... last chances to get your q's in to @thewritertype. #scriptchat
7:55 pm ScriptCoach: @mona_benjamin Many people like MacDonald's, too. Doesn't mean a proper hamburger isn't more enjoyable. ;) #scriptchat
7:55 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat The one thing I do know about writing funny lines is that is always about precision: exactly the right word order
7:55 pm RaidPoint: @ScriptCoach think nowadays only indies make movies for their sakes. studios tear the scripts apart trying to cater for most #scriptchat
7:55 pm fnafilms: Well I guess we'll soon find out if @jazadal and I are as funny as we think we are! LOL. #scriptchat
7:55 pm mona_benjamin: @DreamsGrafter Yes, when I've been lucky to listen in & it works, I realise how damn difficult sustained comedy is to write! #scriptchat
7:56 pm Envyas: In India, no live taping of sitcoms.There is 'canned laughter' slapped on during edits to underline jokes.Same in US/UK now too? #scriptchat
7:56 pm RaidPoint: @ScriptCoach end up pleasing none or worse it is a hit n that donkey gets flogged all d way into valhalla #scriptchat
7:56 pm nicalderton: @DreamsGrafter Graham Lineham (@glinner) a great comedy writer who uses visual gags in his work. Helps that he directs too. #scriptchat
7:56 pm DreamsGrafter: Am looking forward to reading the US transcript w/ @SKYCOMEDY guesting: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT. #scriptchat
7:57 pm ScriptCoach: @LSOwen I think that depends on the type of comedy. Some need the energy of constant funny. #scriptchat
7:57 pm thewritertype: @TheWriteScript #scriptchat Much UK comedy is good 5 min. sketch inflated to crap half-hour. Need shit hot script editors.
7:57 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat I think if you want to write comedy you should force yourself to write and deliver 5mins of stand-up at an open mic.
7:57 pm zacsanford2: @Envyas Most new US comedies are now single cam instead of multi, so no live audience. Multis still tend to use live audience. #scriptchat
7:57 pm robertHarper: #scriptchat Comedy shouldn't need explaining, I see that a lot in scripts, where the writer isn't sure of themselves and overwrites.
7:57 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @nicalderton: @DreamsGrafter Graham Lineham (@glinner) a great comedy writer who uses visual gags in his work. Helps that he directs too. #scriptchat
7:57 pm mona_benjamin: The real test is always in the re-watching; if you can laugh your way through the same film 100 times...WOW. #scriptchat
7:58 pm zacsanford2: @filmutopia I think improv is a better training ground for comedy writing than stand-up, since writing rooms are a group effort. #scriptchat
7:58 pm antonsays: @DreamsGrafter @rikup most animation comedies do physical humour #scriptchat
7:58 pm RaidPoint: not really. cos same principles apply. @booksbelow :@thewritertype Is there a diff structure... #scriptchat
7:58 pm ScriptCoach: @filmutopia Which makes it infuriating when actors fluff. Or worse: rewrite. Or rather, rewrite and fail to make it better. #scriptchat
7:59 pm DreamsGrafter: @nicalderton Hi there. Yes, definitely wld help tht @glinner directs. Must admit have never watched the IT Crowd. I know I must. #scriptchat
7:59 pm zacsanford2: @filmutopia Well... I guess I should say for TV... not for features. :) #scriptchat
7:59 pm filmutopia: @zacsanford2 I did stand-up for years and the craft of writing a routine does translate into writing comedy scripts #scriptchat
7:59 pm ScriptCoach: @zacsanford2 Which is an entirely different thing to write! Completely different sense of timing. #scriptchat
7:59 pm fnafilms: RT @zacsanford2: @filmutopia I think improv is a better training ground for comedy writing than stand-up, since writing rooms are a group effort. #scriptchat
8:00 pm zacsanford2: @filmutopia Sorry, was stuck on the topic of TV comedy. But yes, stand-up can help a comedy feature writer. #scriptchat
8:00 pm robertHarper: @DreamsGrafter Yes you must. #scriptchat #itcrowd
8:00 pm ScriptCoach: Right. #Sherlock. I'm off. ;) #scriptchat
8:00 pm Envyas: All you comedy writers out there, big pat on your backs.The world today needs more comedy,more brilliance in satire than ever b4 #scriptchat
8:01 pm SKCOMEDY: @thewritertype Great chat (been lurking)! #scriptchat
8:01 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat - Sherlock, bye, thanks... good nibbles
8:01 pm zacsanford2: To all those out there writing comedy... please no more scripts like Paul Blart: Mall Cop. Thanks. #scriptchat
8:01 pm nate_winslow: Last chance to vote for the September 5th #scriptchat Script Night screenplay! http://bit.ly/dhPrIM Go vote! #scriptchat #screenwriting
8:02 pm BWtheFilm: Me too! Missed Euro #scriptchat :( @DreamsGrafter Looking forward to reading the US transcript w/ @SKYCOMEDY guesting: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT.
8:02 pm DreamsGrafter: Hi guys, @SKYCOMEDY will be guesting for the US Chat ... 8pm EDT/5pm PDT/1am BST ... #scriptchat
8:02 pm taanisrk: RT @Envyas: All you comedy writers out there, big pat on your backs.The world today needs more comedy,more brilliance in satire than ever b4 #scriptchat
8:02 pm zacsanford2: @SKCOMEDY Sadly I miss the US chat tonight. Friend's doc is playing at the Sunset 5 for some Film Fest. #scriptchat
8:03 pm SKCOMEDY: @DreamsGrafter Actually, it skcomedy. But this chat has been so good, I might just have to cut and paste all of the tweets! #scriptchat
8:03 pm Envyas: Hahaha RT @zacsanford2: To all those out there writing comedy... please no more scripts like Paul Blart: Mall Cop. Thanks. #scriptchat
8:03 pm zacsanford2: RT @nate_winslow: Last chance to vote for the September 5th #scriptchat Script Night screenplay! http://bit.ly/dhPrIM Go vote! #scriptchat
8:03 pm rikup: Animation is a good call. Is visual comedy too 'childish' for real life characters? Where's today's C.Chaplin or B.Keaton? #scriptchat
8:03 pm DreamsGrafter: Thanks SO MUCH @thewritertype for being the focus of our questioning tonight!! #scriptchat I hope you survived ok. xo
8:04 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @nate_winslow: Last chance to vote for the September 5th #scriptchat Script Night screenplay! http://bit.ly/dhPrIM Go vote! #scriptchat #screenwriting
8:04 pm booksbelow: Thanks @thewritertype and @DreamsGrafter for another great hour! #scriptchat
8:04 pm janetvaneeden: @filmutopia or lecture to students who'd rather be somewhere else. You have to be funny to keep attention #scriptchat
8:05 pm SKCOMEDY: RT @booksbelow: Thanks @thewritertype and @DreamsGrafter for another great hour! #scriptchat
8:05 pm DreamsGrafter: @nate_winslow Have just voted! Sorry for the delay. xo #scriptchat
8:05 pm booksbelow: @SKCOMEDY Hey, I like SKYCOMEDY better! :-) #scriptchat
8:06 pm Envyas: Which is the most diff type of comedy to write? I think Horror-Comedy. The Brits did it great with 'Severance' I thought :) #scriptchat
8:06 pm mona_benjamin: @DreamsGrafter Arrived late but glad I made it. Thank you for another lovely #scriptchat
8:06 pm TheWriteScript: @thewritertype Thanks so much! #scriptchat
8:06 pm booksbelow: I think Dune was the worst adapted script ever, and so voted! #scriptchat
8:06 pm RaidPoint: Thanks @thewritertype and @DreamGrafter #scriptchat
8:06 pm DreamsGrafter: @SKCOMEDY Whoops, sorry! Sorry to miss your chat. Looking forward to reading the transcript though. #scriptchat
8:06 pm SKCOMEDY: Great--I was planning on using many of your tweets as my own, anyway. RT @zacsanford2: @SKCOMEDY Sadly I miss US chat tonight. #scriptchat
8:07 pm thewritertype: #scriptchat Check my Comedy Writing Tips: http://bit.ly/dz9EiM
8:07 pm RaidPoint: @nate winslow hope we get to do Dune! #scriptchat
8:07 pm zacsanford2: @Envyas "Severance" was great. I also dig Shaun of the Dead, Zombieland and Scream. #scriptchat
8:07 pm booksbelow: Will do so! RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat Check my Comedy Writing Tips: http://bit.ly/dz9EiM #scriptchat
8:07 pm DreamsGrafter: Thanks everyone for joining in! And so great to see many new faces tonight. #scriptchat
8:07 pm momentsoffilm: Goodnight #scriptchat.. interesting stuff.. going to have a ponder on it all.
8:08 pm zacsanford2: @SKCOMEDY Here's a comedy tweet to use later... "the US version of The Office is better than the original." :) #scriptchat
8:08 pm zacsanford2: @skcomedy oh wait, the UK chat is still going on. Whoops. :) #scriptchat
8:09 pm fnafilms: @DreamsGrafter - thanks for hosting again. #scriptchat
8:09 pm RaidPoint: @zacsanford2 true ;)! see u guys later. #scriptchat
8:09 pm DreamsGrafter: I think I've got SKY on the mind 'cause we've got Sky Plus working on #Sherlock right now. ;) #scriptchat
8:10 pm DreamsGrafter: Also, thanks @zacsanford2 for the #scriptchat #treefort support! Thanks Zac and have a great time tonight. xo
8:10 pm TheWriteScript: @SharkGoddess I think I gave you the wrong #scriptchat time...8 p.m. eastern, so 5 p.m. for you, Sundays.
8:10 pm janetvaneeden: @momentsoffilm great stuff @dreamsgrafter @thewritertype #scriptchat and will check out those hints Paul.
8:10 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat Check my Comedy Writing Tips: http://bit.ly/dz9EiM
8:11 pm momentsoffilm: RT @DreamsGrafter: RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat Check my Comedy Writing Tips: http://bit.ly/dz9EiM
8:12 pm thewritertype: @filmutopia #scriptchat: Of course some people have performance timing & some not. My point was about writing craft.
8:12 pm Envyas: Thanks to everyone on #scriptchat My first (its usually way past midnight India Std Time). Will stay up next time! Thanks @zacsanford2
8:12 pm janetvaneeden: RT @momentsoffilm: RT @DreamsGrafter: RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat Check my Comedy Writing Tips: http://bit.ly/dz9EiM
8:12 pm DreamsGrafter: Thanks everyone! #scriptchat *passes the baton to @jeannevb @KageyNYC and @yeah_write to chat with @SKComedy at 8pm EDT/5pm PDT! xo
8:13 pm thewritertype: @filmutopia #scriptchat. I been and gone and done it. 20 years of live comedy performance. Writing is different.
8:14 pm DreamsGrafter: Yes, that's true! RT @antonsays: @DreamsGrafter @rikup most animation comedies do physical humour #scriptchat
8:15 pm janetvaneeden: @DreamsGrafter thanks for great session. #scriptchat
8:16 pm DreamsGrafter: I have to shoot off to catch up on Sherlock Holmes! Have a lovely night everyone - and thanks again for tonight's #scriptchat. LOVED IT!
8:17 pm thescriptlab: Script Polarity: Opposites Attract #screenwriting #scriptchat #ScriptTips http://bit.ly/9h36GB
8:17 pm DreamsGrafter: HA! RT @thewritertype: #scriptchat TY @DramsGrafter & everyone else. Very stimulating & fun. I've just thought of what I SHOULD have said.
USA CHAT:
12:01 am jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK!! Comedy man @SKCOMEDY is IN THE HOUSE
12:01 am KageyNYC: @SKCOMEDY Break a leg! #scriptchat
12:02 am The_Jodi: @SKCOMEDY Nice to see you too! #scriptchat
12:02 am jeannevb: I'm currently writing a comedy, so very interested in all @SKCOMEDY has to say :) #scriptchat
12:02 am GinySassenach: Yea @Skcomedy Clap clap clap. *we are all standing up* #scriptchat
12:02 am TheWriteScript: @skcomedy Biggest mistakes by new comedy writers? #scriptchat
12:02 am GCGeek: @SKCOMEDY Hi, Steve! Thanks for joining us! Very excited! You can tell by all the exclamation points!!!! #scriptchat
12:02 am jeannevb: Let's let the questions fly.... what do you all want to know? #scriptchat
12:02 am SKCOMEDY: Are we expecting things to turn violent? RT @KageyNYC: @SKCOMEDY Break a leg! #scriptchat
12:02 am KageyNYC: Ditto! RT @jeannevb: I'm currently writing a comedy, so very interested in all @SKCOMEDY has to say :) #scriptchat
12:02 am sdarancette: Well Guess I'm here earlier than thought. #scriptchat
12:02 am yeah_write: I'm here, I'm here. Almost late. Can't wait for @skcomedy wisdom #scriptchat
12:03 am jolenejahnke: Signing in for #scriptchat!
12:03 am cinematicshot: Why did the chicken cross the road? #scriptchat
12:03 am jeannevb: *man starts w a laugh* ;) RT @SKCOMEDY: Are we expecting things to turn violent? RT @KageyNYC: @SKCOMEDY Break a leg! #scriptchat
12:03 am KageyNYC: Only if you're not funny ;) RT @SKCOMEDY: Are we expecting things to turn violent? RT @KageyNYC: @SKCOMEDY Break a leg! #scriptchat
12:03 am jeannevb: Start your question tweet with a "Q" so @SKCOMEDY can easily see it plz #scriptchat
12:03 am SKCOMEDY: @KageyNYC Thanks--no pressure. #scriptchat
12:04 am jeannevb: psst @ozzywood, we're talking w @SKCOMEDY RIGHT NOW #scriptchat
12:04 am KageyNYC: This is why we drink. RT @SKCOMEDY: @KageyNYC Thanks--no pressure. #scriptchat
12:04 am WriterChanelle: Hello hello! #scriptchat
12:04 am jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY Q: what's the hardest thing to get writers to understand about comedy writing? #scriptchat
12:04 am naultpullar: Hello! I'm organized today and finally made it to the beginning of #scriptchat! Yippee! #scriptchat
12:05 am TheWriteScript: Q. Biggest mistakes new comedy writers make? #scriptchat
12:05 am stacy_chambers: Hello! #scriptchat
12:05 am SKCOMEDY: That's it's not about the jokes. RT @jeannevb: Q: whats the hardest thing to get writers to understand about comedy writing? #scriptchat
12:05 am jeannevb: yeah! @SKCOMEDY guesting RT @naultpullar: Hello! Im organized today and finally made it to the beginning of #scriptchat! Yippee! #scriptchat
12:05 am cinematicshot: Q How do you know if a gag is still funny when you've been working on the script for months, even years? #scriptchat
12:06 am GinySassenach: Q @SKCOMEDY If you can, tell us about a script you wrote #scriptchat
12:06 am jeannevb: elaborate plz? RT @SKCOMEDY: Thats its not about the jokes. RT @jeannevb: Q: writers understand about comedy writing? #scriptchat
12:06 am Timsn: Hi Everyone:) Made it to #scriptchat
12:06 am yeah_write: Quick promo, please visit @SKCOMEDY at http://www.KaplanComedy.com He offers great classes. Dec.4-5 in LA. #scriptchat
12:06 am jeannevb: @GCGeek proud of you for starting early :) #scriptchat
12:06 am SKCOMEDY: @cinematicshot If you thought the gag was funny years ago, it probably still is. #scriptchat
12:06 am TheWriteScript: Q. what is the best way today to sell a TV comedy pilot? #scriptchat
12:07 am KageyNYC: Good Q RT @cinematicshot Q How do u know if a gag is still funny when you've been working on the script for months, even years? #scriptchat
12:07 am jtabergas: hello everyone! #scriptchat
12:07 am dwacon: Had an agent market my action thriller as a comedy. Too many Arnold/Bruce-esque one-liners after bad guys get it I reckon. #scriptchat
12:07 am jeannevb: RT @yeah_write: Quick promo, please visit @SKCOMEDY at http://www.KaplanComedy.com He offers great classes. Dec.4-5 in LA. #scriptchat
12:07 am GCGeek: Q: So much humor, IMO, is in the delivery and timing. How *do* you script that? I tend to overuse italics. #scriptchat
12:07 am jeannevb: @yeah_write good pimping ;) #scriptchat
12:07 am jmiewald: Comedies sometimes have serious moments. How do you know when to give some "dramatic relief" in a comedy film? #scriptchat
12:07 am nate_winslow: @jeannevb (Perhaps not just about set-up/delivery/punchline? Laughs come from situations characters get placed in?) #scriptchat
12:07 am SKCOMEDY: What's important is character, and developing the premise organically #scriptchat
12:07 am GCGeek: I'm only here to make you proud! RT @jeannevb: @GCGeek proud of you for starting early :) #scriptchat
12:08 am naultpullar: I have heard that comedy is hard to sell overseas since it does not always translate to other cultures. #scriptchat
12:08 am jeannevb: @nate_winslow definitely ;) #scriptchat
12:09 am yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY Q Does the "rule of 3" play here? In setting up the comedy? #scriptchat
12:09 am cinematicshot: Q What are some keys to develop a good comedy premise? #scriptchat
12:09 am jeannevb: Q for everyone: are any of u nervous to try writing comedy, & if so, why? #scriptchat
12:09 am booksbelow: @SKCOMEDY Q can you elaborate on developing premise organically? #scriptchat
12:09 am The_Jodi: @lizb1987 Going on now! Screewriting chat. Stop on by here #scriptchat.
12:09 am yeah_write: BTW, it's #scriptchat o'clock, so if you aren't into comedy, please ignore tweets for next hour (or more, I hope)
12:09 am om4ry: I'm suffering from lack of confidence. I am passionate about the material but I have doubts about my ability. Any advice? #scriptchat
12:09 am Timsn: RT @SKCOMEDY: What's important is character, and developing the premise organically #scriptchat
12:09 am SKCOMEDY: You have to be in a position to sell, i.e. already exec producing, or otherwise already have some heat from something else. #scriptchat
12:10 am sdarancette: I always thought the two words, "Comedy" and "Intensive" was a funny pairing in their own right. It's INTENSE, Angry COMEDY! #scriptchat
12:10 am RTcomedy: RT @yeah_write btw, it's #scriptchat o'clock, so if you aren't into comedy, please ignore tweets for next hour (or more, i hope)
12:10 am SKCOMEDY: Yikes I can't type fast enough! #scriptchat
12:10 am GCGeek: Not at all. But focusing on sitcom spec RT @jeannevb: Q for everyone: are any of u nervous to try writing comedy, & if so, why? #scriptchat
12:10 am nate_winslow: @jeannevb A: What if I find out I'm not as funny as I thought I was?? #scriptchat
12:10 am dwacon: Nervous? No. Sol Saks wrote great book about art of comedy writing -- comedy and tragedy are two sides of the same coin? #scriptchat
12:10 am Timsn: Rule of 3 -- is that the same as a running gag ie; man with arm in Hot Tub Time Machine? #scriptchat
12:11 am jeannevb: welcome to my world ;) #whytequilaisatmyside RT @SKCOMEDY: Yikes I cant type fast enough! #scriptchat
12:11 am SKCOMEDY: In a comic screenplay, it's often good 2 have great premise, i.e. the lie that tells the truth. Groundhog Day, Big for instance #scriptchat
12:11 am jtabergas: @jeannevb nope, most of my scripts are comedy. i love comedy! #scriptchat
12:11 am WriterChanelle: If you find the humor in the hit movies to be lacking, how do you write something that appeals to a larger audience? #scriptchat
12:11 am jeannevb: good point. Now u made ME nervous ha RT @nate_winslow: @jeannevb A: What if I find out I'm not as funny as I thought I was?? #scriptchat
12:11 am SKCOMEDY: After you establish the premise, EVERYTHING else needs to occur organically out of character #scriptchat
12:11 am FuglyCharlie: I haven't participated in this #scriptchat before ...
12:11 am jeannevb: excellent RT @jtabergas: @jeannevb nope, most of my scripts are comedy. i love comedy! #scriptchat
12:12 am readerproof: @jeannevb Only afraid of romantic comdies. A tough beast for me. #scriptchat
12:12 am jeannevb: @FuglyCharlie welcome. We don't bite. Tonight, we're talking to comedy guru @SKCOMEDY. If u have quest, fire away! #scriptchat
12:12 am yeah_write: Glad to have you here. @skcomedy is our guest tonight. RT @FuglyCharlie: I haven't participated in this #scriptchat before ...
12:12 am jeannevb: not my fave. Usually predictable RT @readerproof: @jeannevb Only afraid of romantic comdies. A tough beast for me. #scriptchat
12:12 am booksbelow: Got it! Thanks. RT @SKCOMEDY: After you establish the premise, EVERYTHING else needs to occur organically out of character #scriptchat
12:13 am jeannevb: @readerproof off topic, read anything good this wknd? :) heehee #scriptchat
12:13 am jeannevb: RT @SKCOMEDY: After you establish the premise, EVERYTHING else needs to occur organically out of character #scriptchat
12:13 am yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY Don't worry, we have all night. lol #scriptchat
12:13 am yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY Don't worry, we have all night. lol #scriptchat
12:13 am nate_winslow: @jeannevb Haha insecurities are contagious ;) No, but if we thought like that, nothing would get done. Only one way to find out! #scriptchat
12:13 am DoubleNW: @jeannevb I just don't have the personality 4 an entire comedy script. #scriptchat
12:13 am FuglyCharlie: I can write romantic comedy, but I lean MORE toward sci-fi action genre myself ... #scriptchat
12:13 am GCGeek: @FuglyCharlie Welcome! It's fast and furious, but a transcript is graciously posted after it's all over. #scriptchat
12:14 am jeannevb: @FuglyCharlie we also have a blog w TONS of resources http://scriptchat.com #scriptchat
12:14 am The_Jodi: (@FuglyCharlie Is that Chaka?) (Chaka is funny!) #scriptchat
12:14 am SKCOMEDY: You have to write what you think is funny, can't try to outguess them. RT @WriterChanelle: how do u appeal to larger audience? #scriptchat
12:14 am jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY Q: do u think comedies are better when written w a partner? #scriptchat
12:14 am jtabergas: me too, mine is still in development! RT @readerproof: Only afraid of romantic comdies. A tough beast for me. #scriptchat
12:14 am readerproof: @jeannevb lol, something about slavery and another name. I forget (on page 105 as we speak). #scriptchat
12:14 am ZaNiaCmedic: I'm lurking in #scriptchat tonight. Comedy not my thing, but good to hear @SKCOMEDY et al giving wisdom and advice.
12:15 am jeannevb: @nate_winslow amen! I'm going for it w this new script :) #scriptchat
12:15 am GCGeek: @nate_winslow @jeannevb Insecurity is the first prerequisite for comedy, isn't it? #scriptchat
12:15 am jeannevb: @readerproof heehee :) #scriptchat
12:15 am kingisafink: Yep. RT @jeannevb RT @SKCOMEDY: After you establish the premise, EVERYTHING else needs to occur organically out of character #scriptchat
12:15 am SKCOMEDY: Things like rules of 3 are, in a way, myths. Better to pay attention to the rhythms and tone of comics and writers you like. #scriptchat
12:15 am sdarancette: I often try to boil it down to truth. What's so true that it causes you to go "Ha!" That means it's so true it's funny. #scriptchat
12:15 am jeannevb: @ZaNiaCmedic happy lurking ;) #scriptchat
12:15 am robertHarper: Wish I did know all the comedians that some of my Facebook friends know, perhaps then I could have got them involved in #scriptchat today.
12:15 am dwacon: @jeannevb My first script was a comedy written with a partner. Got optioned immediately. Sold a decade later. Never made. #scriptchat
12:15 am booksbelow: Worked for Woody Allen! RT @GCGeek: @nate_winslow @jeannevb Insecurity is the first prerequisite for comedy, isnt it? #scriptchat
12:16 am blackrugger: ladies and gentlemen... i have returned. #scriptchat
12:16 am jeannevb: @4KidLit #scriptchat is on now... :)
12:16 am The_Jodi: The world really needs us to write good romantic comedies! #scriptchat (maybe we'll have to disguise it in another genre, but ...)
12:16 am DoubleNW: @jeannevb Romantic Comedies r totally predictable. I hate that also. #scriptchat
12:16 am GCGeek: RT @SKCOMEDY: Things like rules of 3 are in a way myths. Better to pay attention to rhythms & tone of comics & writers you like #scriptchat
12:16 am SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb I don't know that you need a partner, but you need to have the script read out loud in front of other human beings. #scriptchat
12:16 am readerproof: RT @SKCOMEDY: Things like rules of 3 are, in a way, myths. Better to pay attention to the rhythms and tone. #scriptchat
12:16 am WriterChanelle: RT @HigherFrequency @jeannevb worked @ comedy club & found many different styles of humor ~ we probably write what we find funny #scriptchat
12:16 am jtabergas: Q: What do you think are the best comedy screenplays to study? #scriptchat
12:16 am nate_winslow: @jeannevb That's the only right way to do it :) #scriptchat
12:17 am WriterChanelle: @SKCOMEDY How do you get that initial heat? #scriptchat
12:17 am SKCOMEDY: @sdarancette I agree. In a nutshell, comedy tells the truth, and specifically, it tells the truth about people. #scriptchat
12:17 am GinySassenach: I will agree with you on that RT @DoubleNW: @jeannevb Romantic Comedies r totally predictable. I hate that also. #scriptchat
12:17 am kingisafink: Good question. RT @jtabergas Q: What do you think are the best comedy screenplays to study? #scriptchat
12:17 am scriptchat: Steve Kaplan @SKCOMEDY is guesting on #scriptchat RIGHT NOW! www.tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat
12:17 am art1032: LOL preq for all of it? :) @GCGeek@nate_winslow @jeannevb Insecurity is the first prerequisite for comedy, isn't it? #scriptchat
12:17 am FuglyCharlie: @The_Jodi Wait until you see me dressed up as "Chaka" for Halloween party for www.tntml.com ... I look like "Chaka". #scriptchat
12:18 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY Q: Surprise is the most important factor of a joke. True or False? #scriptchat
12:18 am jeannevb: he picked GROUNDHOG DAY (we did last wk) RT @jtabergas: Q: What do you think are the best comedy screenplays to study? #scriptchat
12:18 am nate_winslow: @GCGeek Good point ;) #scriptchat
12:18 am SKCOMEDY: I would focus on the ones that made you laugh. RT @jtabergas: Q: What do you think are the best comedy screenplays to study? #scriptchat
12:18 am Breezy2345: #scriptchat is educational enjoy reading these tweets and thanks @SKCOMEDY for dispensing ur knowledge appreciate it alot
12:18 am GCGeek: I think so. :-) RT @art1032: LOL preq for all of it? : #scriptchat
12:18 am naultpullar: At a WGA event I heard Stuart Confield say that he looks for emotional honesty in comedy. He often produces for Ben Stiller. #scriptchat
12:19 am sdarancette: Something that's so true that we all relate to it and we can't help but admit it out loud with laughter @skcomedy #scriptchat
12:19 am FuglyCharlie: @The_Jodi Hasn't all the scenarios for romantic-comedies already been written? It feels like it has ... #scriptchat
12:19 am jeannevb: If anyone missed our GROUNDHOG DAY discussion last wk, here's transcript: http://bit.ly/912Bsg #scriptchat
12:19 am SKCOMEDY: I love Groundhog Day (movie, not the script, because of it's unique structure and combination of heart, characters & premise. #scriptchat
12:19 am robertHarper: @jeannevb I love Groundhog Day. #scriptchat
12:20 am jschermannsong: always liked GHOSTBUSTERS & BACK TO THE FUTURE RT @kingisafink RT @jtabergas What are the best comedy screenplays to study? #scriptchat
12:20 am stacy_chambers: Yep, only one I love is AS GOOD AS IT GETS. RT @jeannevb Romantic Comedies r totally predictable. I hate that also. #scriptchat
12:20 am TheWriteScript: RT @WriterChanelle: @SKCOMEDY How do you get that initial heat? #scriptchat
12:20 am nate_winslow: @FuglyCharlie Oh, I don't know. What did Billy Wilder do? Think up a diff. way for a boy and a girl to meet every day? #scriptchat
12:20 am WriterChanelle: RT @om4ry: I'm suffering from lack of confidence. I am passionate about the material but I have doubts about my ability. Advice? #scriptchat
12:20 am SKCOMEDY: Sometimes, but anticipation often works--think of Kramer in Seinfeld. RT @readerproof: Surprise is the most important factor? #scriptchat
12:21 am yeah_write: The reason you see the same scenario for RomCom is because it works, it sells, and it's proven. Hollywood is a business... #scriptchat
12:21 am readerproof: Best RomCom ever: When Harry Met Sally. #scriptchat
12:21 am jeannevb: I rarely see them in theater, only when flipping channels RT @DoubleNW: @jeannevb Romantic Comedies r totally predictable. #scriptchat
12:21 am WriterChanelle: @om4ry Been there. Kinda am there. The only reason I have confidence is because I don't feel this passion for anything else. #scriptchat
12:21 am jeannevb: agree! RT @readerproof: Best RomCom ever: When Harry Met Sally. #scriptchat
12:21 am The_Jodi: @FuglyCharlie Everything's been done before, hasn't it? Maybe romcoms need to be grafted onto another genre. #scriptchat
12:21 am nate_winslow: Ditto. Broadcast News and Tootsie too. RT @jschermannsong: always liked GHOSTBUSTERS & BACK TO THE FUTURE RT #scriptchat
12:21 am FuglyCharlie: @nate_winslow True, true ... I guess there's STILL MORE ways for boy and girl to meet and fall and love #scriptchat
12:21 am booksbelow: That is a good one! RT @readerproof: Best RomCom ever: When Harry Met Sally. #scriptchat
12:22 am sdarancette: Are romantic comedies so predictable because ROMANCES are so predictable. Boy will get girl, doesn't matter if funny or not. #scriptchat
12:22 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY Like in the ep: The Contest. Kramer's "I'm out!" #scriptchat
12:22 am jtabergas: Agree! Love that movie! RT @readerproof: Best RomCom ever: When Harry Met Sally. #scriptchat
12:22 am kingisafink: @JSchermannSong Those are both good. And more recently, the script for Zombieland is a fun read. #scriptchat
12:22 am SKCOMEDY: Have your stuff read in a supportive group. What works will work. Fix the dry patches. RT @om4ry: suffering lack of confidence. #scriptchat
12:22 am jeannevb: @yeah_write yes, it's a biz, but not as fun to write as things u can go outside of the box with IMO. I prefer comedy & drama #scriptchat
12:22 am GCGeek: YES RT @nate_winslow: Ditto. Broadcast News & Tootsie too. RT @jschermannsong: always liked GHOSTBUSTERS & BACK TO THE FUTURE RT #scriptchat
12:22 am naultpullar: A good romantic comedy is The Ugly Truth. #scriptchat
12:22 am dwacon: @The_Jodi You mean like a SciFi RomCom? When Harry Met Sunev (which is Venus backwards)... #scriptchat
12:22 am SKCOMEDY: Yes, but that's no reason not to share your version with us. RT @FuglyCharlie Everythings been done before, hasnt it? #scriptchat
12:23 am jeannevb: Enough of Rom Coms, let's get back to asking @SKCOMEDY questions while we have him #scriptchat
12:23 am kingisafink: @SKCOMEDY I'd argue that Hitchcock's Bomb Theory applies to comedy as well... Anticipation trumps surprise, but you need both. #scriptchat
12:23 am nate_winslow: @FuglyCharlie Yeah. Another thing altogether to write those well tho :) #scriptchat
12:23 am jschermannsong: ahh TOOTSIE is amazing! one of my faves! RT @nate_winslow: Ditto. Broadcast News and Tootsie too. #scriptchat
12:23 am yeah_write: Is @robluketic reading this? RT @naultpullar: A good romantic comedy is The Ugly Truth. #scriptchat
12:23 am SKCOMEDY: What hasn't been done is your point of view on a classic subject. Look at 500 Days of Summer--boy meets girl, freshly told. #scriptchat
12:23 am readerproof: RT @jeannevb: Enough of Rom Coms, lets get back to asking @SKCOMEDY questions while we have him #scriptchat
12:24 am Timsn: My Cousin Vinny is an awesome comedy, Tootsie was awesome too! #scriptchat
12:24 am dwacon: When Barack Met Palin? #scriptchat
12:24 am FuglyCharlie: #PrettyWoman is my favorite RomCom ... #scriptchat
12:24 am JordanDrew: RT @jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK!! Comedy man @SKCOMEDY is IN THE HOUSE
12:24 am jeannevb: who has a question for @SKCOMEDY? Pick his brain while he's here #scriptchat
12:25 am SKCOMEDY: @kingisafink What you need are RECOGNIZABLE characters, so that you can anticipate with delight, but also be joyously surprised. #scriptchat
12:25 am naultpullar: @SKCOMEDY How does one go about come with the familiar but a different way of doing it in terms of comedy? #scriptchat
12:25 am GinySassenach: @skcomedy It seems slap stick will always be funny. Don't know why. "Whole Nine Yards" Matthew Perry running into the door #scriptchat
12:25 am The_Jodi: @GCGeek *sigh* Love Tootsie! I miss the oldies too. Philadelphia Story, His Girl Friday! #scriptchat
12:25 am robertHarper: RT @jeannevb Enough of Rom Coms, let's get back to asking @SKCOMEDY questions while we have him #scriptchat << Yes, tho I must sleep UK time
12:25 am ttimechitchat: Love this one! RT @jeannevb: agree! RT @readerproof: Best RomCom ever: When Harry Met Sally. #scriptchat
12:25 am booksbelow: Q what is main difference between film and tv comedy writing? #scriptchat
12:25 am yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY Q Are there a specific # of comedic points to hit in a script? Like, it must have 25 belly laughs... #scriptchat
12:26 am GCGeek: Q: Are spoofs really that sellable? Vampires Suck is the next. They keep making 'em, but I almost think they're pre-contracted. #scriptchat
12:26 am TheWriteScript: @SKCOMEDY Q. What are your top three things all comedy writers should know? #scriptchat
12:26 am blankethouse: RT @naultpullar: @SKCOMEDY How does one go about come with the familiar but a different way of doing it in terms of comedy? #scriptchat
12:26 am yeah_write: @FuglyCharlie We post a transcript at www.scriptchat.com after the chat on Sunday night. #scriptchat
12:26 am Timsn: Ha! When Barack met Sarah:) RT @dwacon: When Barack Met Palin? #scriptchat
12:26 am jeannevb: that's why we post a transcript :) RT @FuglyCharlie: Man, this chat is fast. Im losing track of conversation, haha! #scriptchat
12:26 am sdarancette: @SKCOMEDY What did you think of THE OTHER GUYS, Did you see it? I laughed a lot but ended up not liking it. #scriptchat
12:26 am kingisafink: TOOTSIE! RT @JSchermannSong ahh TOOTSIE is amazing! one of my faves! RT @nate_winslow: Ditto. Broadcast News and Tootsie too. #scriptchat
12:26 am ZaNiaCmedic: For TV comedy, I found Sheldon Bull and Ellen Sandler good to listen to at Toronto Screenwriters Conf. #scriptchat
12:26 am ttimechitchat: @SKCOMEDY Have you seen Death at a Funeral (British or American version)? I love the British version. #scriptchat
12:26 am jeannevb: @FuglyCharlie the transcript will be up within the hour after chat on http://scriptchat.com :) #scriptchat
12:27 am SKCOMEDY: @booksbelow In a sitcom, you're creating a dysfunctional family that we can spend time with week after week. #scriptchat
12:27 am jeannevb: @JordanDrew ur such a good pimp :) xo #SCRIPTCHAT
12:27 am WriterChanelle: RT @kingisafink: Good question. RT @jtabergas Q: What do you think are the best comedy screenplays to study? #scriptchat
12:27 am katmagendie: RT @jeannevb: who has a question for @SKCOMEDY? Pick his brain while he's here #scriptchat
12:27 am yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY Can you tell us a little about your comedy workshops? #scriptchat
12:27 am booksbelow: RT @SKCOMEDY: @booksbelow In a sitcom, youre creating a dysfunctional family that we can spend time with week after week. #scriptchat
12:27 am SKCOMEDY: Haven't seen it yet.RT @ttimechitchat: Have you seen Death at a Funeral (British or American version)? #scriptchat
12:28 am dwacon: @SKCOMEDY Most important element in comedy? Is it the lines? The situations? The characters? Combinations therof? #scriptchat
12:28 am jeannevb: RT @jolenejahnke: @SKCOMEDY quote has always stayed with me is "Comedy is the truth about a character." #scriptchat
12:28 am WriterChanelle: RT @SKCOMEDY: Sometimes, but anticipation often works--think of Kramer in Seinfeld. RT @readerproof: Surprise most important? #scriptchat
12:28 am Timsn: British! RT @ttimechitchat: @SKCOMEDY Have you seen Death at a Funeral (British or American version)? #scriptchat
12:28 am WriterChanelle: Love love love that movie! RT @readerproof: Best RomCom ever: When Harry Met Sally. #scriptchat
12:28 am SKCOMEDY: They're two-day seminars. First day we focus on the Hidden Tools of Comedy RT @yeah_write: little about your comedy workshops? #scriptchat
12:29 am naultpullar: OK - I have to ask... I often see people write "RT." What does that mean? #scriptchat
12:29 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY Q: Is it true that you started in copywriting? If so, how was it? (something I'm diving into now for extra cash) #scriptchat
12:29 am SKCOMEDY: @yeah_write Second day, we take the tools and show how they are applied to comedy screenplays. #scriptchat
12:30 am WriterChanelle: @sdarancette Romances aren't predictable. Girl doesn't always get boy. Boy doesn't always get girl. #scriptchat
12:30 am FuglyCharlie: @jeannevb Thanks. I forgot. #scriptchat
12:30 am grking: very well executed film! RT @kingisafink: more recently, the script for Zombieland is a fun read. #scriptchat
12:30 am GinySassenach: @naultpullar Return tweet #scriptchat
12:30 am elizemorgan: RT @jeannevb: RT @SKCOMEDY: After you establish the premise, EVERYTHING else needs to occur organically out of character #scriptchat
12:30 am WriterChanelle: @sdarancette They're predictable because the audience wants a happy ending. #scriptchat
12:30 am SKCOMEDY: @readerproof No, I started as a theater director and producer. I started a company in NY called Manhattan Punch Line #scriptchat
12:30 am GCGeek: @SKCOMEDY Q: Are spoofs really that sellable? Like Vampires Suck. They keep making 'em, but I think they're pre-contracted. #scriptchat
12:30 am GCGeek: @naultpullar It means Retweet - you're quoting another's tweet. :-) #ScriptChat
12:31 am Pale_Jewel: What if your style of comedy had been described as unique and quirky. Is there a market for it? #scriptchat
12:31 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY I read something that mentioned Terry Gilium, someone else and you. I hate when people make stuff up. #scriptchat
12:31 am WriterChanelle: RT @booksbelow: Q what is main difference between film and tv comedy writing? #scriptchat
12:31 am dimeotane: Are there basic 'elements' of comedy, like their are elements of narrative? What are the 'building blocks'? A list anywhere? #scriptchat
12:31 am yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY I can't wait to attend. I'll either be at Chicago or Los Angeles. #scriptchat
12:31 am SKCOMEDY: @dwacon Most important element of a comedy is the characters and the premise-the situation they're in, and how they deal with it #scriptchat
12:32 am WriterChanelle: RT @SKCOMEDY: @booksbelow In a sitcom, you're creating a dysfunctional family that we can spend time with week after week. #scriptchat
12:32 am SKCOMEDY: 60 pages. RT @WriterChanelle: RT @booksbelow: Q what is main difference between film and tv comedy writing? #scriptchat
12:32 am ttimechitchat: When you have a chance see the British version. RT @SKCOMEDY: Havent seen it yet.RT : Have you seen Death at a Funeral? #scriptchat
12:32 am jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY i thought u had a DVD available thru EXPO. I'm searching but can't find it. Want to post link... I'll keep looking ;) #scriptchat
12:32 am GCGeek: Me too! I'll be at LA. RT @yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY I cant wait to attend. Ill either be at Chicago or Los Angeles. #scriptchat
12:33 am booksbelow: LOL! RT @SKCOMEDY: 60 pages. RT @WriterChanelle: RT @booksbelow: Q what is main difference between film and tv comedy writing? #scriptchat
12:33 am The_Jodi: (Yay Manhattan Punchline!) #scriptchat
12:33 am TheWriteScript: @SKCOMEDY 60 pages...LOL #scriptchat
12:33 am SKCOMEDY: Sure. Little Miss Sunshine? RT @Pale_Jewel: What if your style of comedy had been described as unique and quirky. Market? #scriptchat
12:33 am nate_winslow: RT @SKCOMEDY: Most important element... is the characters and the premise-the situation theyre in, and how they deal with it #scriptchat
12:33 am dimeotane: oooh I've misspelled in a chat with pro writers, how embarrassing. I am on my third drink of the night however... ; #scriptchat
12:33 am WriterChanelle: RT @jolenejahnke: @SKCOMEDY a quote that has always stayed with me is "Comedy is the truth about a character." #scriptchat
12:33 am SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb No DVD (yet) website is www.KaplanComedy.com. #scriptchat
12:34 am iceberg061: Or ReTweet...your preference, I suppose! RT @GinySassenach: @naultpullar Return tweet #scriptchat
12:34 am TheWriteScript: Q. What's the best way to break in for both film and TV? #scriptchat
12:34 am GinySassenach: @SKCOMEDY Q What about horror comedy Like Fargo..serious situation but funny? #scriptchat
12:34 am ttimechitchat: I laughed from opening credits of UK version. RT @Timsn: British! RT @ttimechitchat: @SKCOMEDY Have you seen Death at a Funeral? #scriptchat
12:34 am jeannevb: Excellent! RT @SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb No DVD (yet) website is www.KaplanComedy.com. #scriptchat
12:34 am GCGeek: @dimeotane As you can see here, speling kounts. #scriptchat
12:35 am nate_winslow: @SKCOMEDY Which led Michael Arndt to Toy Story 3 :). A unique voice helps you more than "quirky" does. #scriptchat
12:35 am Timsn: @SKCOMEDY Do you ever come as far east as NYC? #scriptchat I would love to go to the seminar
12:35 am sdarancette: Meanwhile hearing Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright talk comedy on Sirius radio. Pretty cool and appropriate #scriptchat
12:35 am scriptchat: FYI, in case ur wondering what next month's script is for Script Night, YOU pick! Vote HERE: http://bit.ly/8Y35vz #scriptchat
12:35 am jeannevb: FYI, in case ur wondering what next month's script is for Script Night, YOU pick! Vote HERE: http://bit.ly/8Y35vz #scriptchat
12:35 am SKCOMEDY: @GinySassenach Humor can be added to almost any genre--Zombieland (horror and comedy) 48 Hours (action and comedy) #scriptchat
12:36 am jeannevb: He went to OZ! #dedication RT @Timsn: @SKCOMEDY Do u ever come as far east as NYC? #scriptchat I would love to go to the seminar #scriptchat
12:36 am SKCOMEDY: @Timsn We're working on NY and London. Right now, we've got Winnipeg and Chicago. #scriptchat
12:36 am booksbelow: Q Is comedy too broad a genre to have many common elements? #scriptchat
12:36 am ttimechitchat: Re-Tweet RT @naultpullar: OK - I have to ask... I often see people write "RT." What does that mean? #scriptchat
12:37 am yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY Minneapolis would be good too. Just sayin' #scriptchat
12:37 am blankethouse: @dwacon @SKCOMEDY A good punch isn't as good without the right delivery. #scriptchat
12:37 am SKCOMEDY: @TheWriteScript Breaking in to TV is different from film. In film you can write one great screenplay (Michael Arndt) #scriptchat
12:37 am booksbelow: (pick Dune!) RT @jeannevb: FYI, in case ur wondering what next months script is, YOU pick! Vote HERE: http://bit.ly/8Y35vz #scriptchat
12:37 am WriterChanelle: #scriptchat b/c audience wants it RT @sdarancette: @WriterChanelle Even HARRY MET SALLY which was great but we knew thy would be togthr
12:37 am Pale_Jewel: #scriptchat I think surreal comedy is great but many producers are afraid to go down that route.
12:37 am 4KidLit: RT @jeannevb: RT @jolenejahnke: @SKCOMEDY quote has always stayed with me is "Comedy is the truth about a character." #scriptchat
12:38 am GinySassenach: @SKCOMEDY Any chance for Asheville, North Carolina? Nope didn't think so! *drat* #scriptchat
12:38 am SKCOMEDY: @TheWriteScript In TV, unless you achieve fame in another medium (David Mamet) you have to work your way up the ladder, to Ex.P. #scriptchat
12:38 am dimeotane: Q: Is 'deadpan' humour on the rise? Shows like The Office seem to be increasingly popular, a style of humour that is newer? #scriptchat
12:38 am nate_winslow: Continued pimping of next Script Night with @GoIntoTheStory! Vote! Reading a "bad" script, pick em here: http://bit.ly/9FZspS #scriptchat
12:38 am jeannevb: fyi, at Stony Brook Southampton Screenwriters Conf, the Columbia Univ screenwriting profs were encouraging ppl to write for TV #scriptchat
12:38 am SKCOMEDY: @Pale_Jewel 30 Rock is ALL surreal comedy. #scriptchat
12:39 am ttimechitchat: RT @SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb No DVD (yet) website is www.KaplanComedy.com. #scriptchat
12:39 am jeannevb: when I say "encourage" I mean for a movie... not series #TV #scriptchat
12:39 am booksbelow: Hey, I could do Asheville! RT @GinySassenach: @SKCOMEDY Any chance for Asheville, North Carolina? Nope didnt think so! *drat* #scriptchat
12:39 am GinySassenach: @dimeotane Just could not get into the Office. Don't know why? #scriptchat
12:39 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY Q: I tell my clients who write comedies to have at least 1 to 2 "jokes" per page. How many would you suggest? #scriptchat
12:39 am yeah_write: Storm is a coming, I have to batten down the hatches. BRB #scriptchat
12:39 am jeannevb: @booksbelow did u vote? I'm not picking...@GoIntoTheStory & @nate_winslow are ;) #scriptchat
12:39 am SKCOMEDY: @dimeotane I think the mockumentary is not something that can go on indefinitely. You can only go to that well so often.te #scriptchat
12:40 am sdarancette: @yeah_write It's a Comedy Shit Storm! #scriptchat
12:40 am GinySassenach: @booksbelow Well come on down! #scriptchat
12:40 am SKCOMEDY: @readerproof In sitcoms, maybe, but not the thing to focus on in full-length scripts. #scriptchat
12:40 am blankethouse: @SKCOMEDY Q: what's ur all time funniest movie that u ever seen? #scriptchat
12:40 am ZaNiaCmedic: You mean a TV movie? RT @jeannevb: when I say "encourage" I mean for a movie... not series #TV #scriptchat
12:41 am SKCOMEDY: And me, without an umbrella!! RT @sdarancette: @yeah_write Its a Comedy Shit Storm! #scriptchat
12:41 am GinySassenach: RT @blankethouse: @SKCOMEDY Q: whats ur all time funniest movie that u ever seen?#scriptchat #scriptchat
12:41 am booksbelow: @jeannevb Yes, voted, all good choices but hoping Dune, they really ruined a great book there! #scriptchat
12:41 am nate_winslow: @jeannevb @booksbelow :) Don't let us! If there's a clear winner in the vote, we won't have to. I'm terrible at choices anyways. #scriptchat
12:41 am dimeotane: Does using Canadian spellings like 'humour' and 'colour' when submitting work to the USA look bad? #scriptchat
12:42 am SKCOMEDY: That's not how the business works. RT @jeannevb: fyi, the Columbia Univ screenwriting profs were encouraging ppl to write for TV #scriptchat
12:42 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY Most comdies I read have a joke maybe every 10 pages. It just doesn't feel like a comedy. #scriptchat
12:42 am jeannevb: yep. Better odds of getting produced RT @zaniacmedic: You mean a TV movie? #scriptchat
12:42 am yeah_write: LMAO RT @sdarancette: @yeah_write Its a Comedy Shit Storm! #scriptchat
12:42 am KageyNYC: RT @jeannevb: FYI, in case ur wondering what next month's script is for Script Night, YOU pick! Vote HERE: http://bit.ly/8Y35vz #scriptchat
12:42 am ozzywood: I missed most of this chat. Not funny! #scriptchat
12:42 am SKCOMEDY: Assuming American producers can spell. RT @dimeotane: Does using Canadian spellings like humour and colour USA look bad? #scriptchat
12:43 am jeannevb: :) Nice to see ur mug tho RT @ozzywood: I missed most of this chat. Not funny! #scriptchat
12:43 am SKCOMEDY: But you're ALWYS funny, Karel! RT @ozzywood: I missed most of this chat. Not funny! #scriptchat
12:43 am Pale_Jewel: I also read once never to tell a producer you have a dark comedy. #scriptchat
12:43 am jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY I wasn't talking comedy (for the TV writing quest). THey were talking TV movies #scriptchat
12:43 am dimeotane: [perhaps that's an editing question for another chat session with writing editors and marketing agents?] #scriptchat
12:43 am ZaNiaCmedic: Life of Brian. RT @blankethouse: @SKCOMEDY Q: what's ur all time funniest movie that u ever seen?#scriptchat
12:43 am sdarancette: RT @SKCOMEDY: And me, without an umbrella!! RT @sdarancette: @yeah_write Its a Comedy Shit Storm! #scriptchat Better be made of Kevlar.
12:43 am ozzywood: Yep but I wish I could be comedic! ;) RT @SKCOMEDY: But youre ALWYS funny, Karel! #scriptchat
12:44 am readerproof: @dimeotane I've known of a reader who thought those were typos. So it's kind of risky. #scriptchat
12:44 am The_Jodi: @dwacon I do love Sci-fi! #scriptchat But maybe more like a Fish Out of Water or a Caper with a rom com at the center?
12:44 am ZaNiaCmedic: @booksbelow What vote? #scriptchat
12:44 am DarlaV: @dimeotane I don't think so, personally. I went through a time favouring the european spelling -ou. It's a writer's preference. #scriptchat
12:45 am ozzywood: I recommend my (Australian) clients to use American spelling. In Oz they'll get it, not v.v. #scriptchat
12:45 am SKCOMEDY: @readerproof Again, it's not the jokes. I have a friend who pitches jokes to sitcoms. He gets paid bupkis. The big bucks go. . #scriptchat
12:45 am sdarancette: I recently wrote a comedy pilot with British characters (but in America) and used UK spelling in their dialogue. For fun/effect. #scriptchat
12:45 am GinySassenach: I go to the page but where do you vote? #scriptchat
12:45 am jeannevb: @ZaNiaCmedic the vote is for September's Script Night script choice: http://bit.ly/8Y35vz #scriptchat
12:45 am blankethouse: RT @ZaNiaCmedic: Life of Brian. RT @blankethouse: @SKCOMEDY Q: what's ur all time funniest movie that u ever seen?#scriptchat {Great one!}
12:46 am dwacon: Irwin Allen?s ?Lost in Space? was a scifi comedy. Was the Will Robinson and Dr. Smith relationship the romance? #scriptchat
12:46 am SKCOMEDY: . . . to the Executive Producers who focus on STORIES and CHARACTERS. Do u remember a joke from FRIENDS? Or those 6 characters? #scriptchat
12:46 am booksbelow: @ZaNiaCmedic Next's months script to discuss is going to be one that went wrong, vote here for choices http://bit.ly/9FZspS #scriptchat
12:46 am ozzywood: Watched Kevin Smith last night for 4hs live. That guy has comedic talent! All jokes are character based. #scriptchat
12:46 am DarlaV: It's a writer's preference issue, is what I wanted to say. It shouldn't matter. Pretentiousness in editing is overbearing. #scriptchat
12:46 am scripteach: Made it! Q. What one thing can you tell writers who want to know how to write comedy? #scriptchat
12:46 am Pale_Jewel: I think my favorite style of comedy is absurdist. Which I think includes spoofs. Love Airplane. #scriptchat
12:46 am booksbelow: @GinySassenach Primitive method, leave comment or email! #scriptchat
12:47 am SKCOMEDY: LOL RT @dwacon: Irwin Allen?s ?Lost in Space? was a scifi comedy. Was the Will Robinson and Dr. Smith relationship the romance? #scriptchat
12:47 am DoubleNW: The biz needs 2 perk up!! Many of these comedies rn't very good these days. #scriptchat
12:47 am Joelsk_: My favourite TV comedies are "IT Crowd", "30 Rock" and probably "Sunny in Philly". As well as "Young Ones", "the Goodies" #scriptchat
12:47 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY I gues "joke" is not the best word. More like "something funny". #scriptchat
12:48 am jeannevb: @scripteach ha... I asked same thing minute 1 :) Answer: its not about the jokes, its about the characters & organic premise #scriptchat
12:48 am SKCOMEDY: @scripteach When you write comedy, start by making fun of yourself, and circle outward from there. #scriptchat
12:48 am Joelsk_: one of my favourite romantic comdts was "500 days of Summer". Liked it a lot more than i thought i would. #scriptchat
12:48 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: @scripteach When you write comedy, start by making fun of yourself, and circle outward from there. #scriptchat
12:48 am ZaNiaCmedic: I'm w/ u on Airplane RT @Pale_Jewel: I think my favorite style of comedy is absurdist. ... #scriptchat
12:48 am jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY Q: do you need a refill of scotch yet? :) #scriptchat
12:48 am Timsn: True! RT @DoubleNW: The biz needs 2 perk up!! Many of these comedies rn't very good these days. #scriptchat
12:48 am yeah_write: Perfect advice. RT @SKCOMEDY: @scripteach When you write comedy, start by making fun of yourself, and circle outward from there. #scriptchat
12:49 am ozzywood: Exactly what Smith did last night. RT @SKCOMEDY: @scripteach start by making fun of yourself, and circle outward from there. #scriptchat
12:49 am SKCOMEDY: @readerproof Most bad scripts I read suffer from writers trying TOO hard to come up with gags. #scriptchat
12:49 am yeah_write: He doesn't have time to pick up the glass & type too. RT @jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY Q: do you need a refill of scotch yet? :) #scriptchat
12:49 am GinySassenach: The funniest comedy to be "Fletch" #scriptchat
12:49 am booksbelow: Just watched Seinfeld 'Parking Garage' episode again, brilliant, sort of a comedic 'Waiting for Godot' #scriptchat
12:49 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY If a writer says their script is the funniest ever, and there are only 15 funny parts; an exec won't like that. #scriptchat
12:49 am yeah_write: RT @SKCOMEDY: @readerproof Most bad scripts I read suffer from writers trying TOO hard to come up with gags. #scriptchat
12:49 am Joelsk_: @Pale_Jewel Airplane is fantastic!! the Zuckers are geniuses! #scriptchat
12:50 am Samuel_Clemons: RT @yeah_write: Perfect advice. RT @SKCOMEDY: @scripteach When you write comedy, start by making fun of yourself, and circle outward from there. #scriptchat
12:50 am DoubleNW: Any1 c BAPS?? My fav comedy from back n the day - Halle Berry like she never has been again. #scriptchat
12:50 am naultpullar: @SKCOMEDY that makes complete sense... comedy would probaby be helped out by us just chilling out... #scriptchat
12:50 am KageyNYC: I've advanced to making fun of @scripteach RT @SKCOMEDY @scripteach When u write comedy strt by mking fun of urself & circle out #scriptchat
12:50 am readerproof: Huge problem RT @SKCOMEDY: @readerproof Most bad scripts I read suffer from writers trying TOO hard to come up with gags. #scriptchat
12:50 am jeannevb: 10 more minutes to pick @SKCOMEDY's brain... you're doing a FAB job fielding questions, Steve! #scriptchat
12:50 am ttimechitchat: Anyone seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? I heard it was very funny...didn't laugh once #scriptchat
12:50 am Pale_Jewel: #scriptchat Should one use rude humour with care even though it may be funny? Could it alienate people?
12:51 am jensenmary30: one of my favourite romantic comdts was "500 days of Summer". Liked it a lot more than i thought i would. #scriptchat
12:51 am Thefirstreel: @SKCOMEDY so keep things simple and observational versus jokes and gags? #scriptchat
12:51 am SKCOMEDY: My browser is acting up! #scriptchat
12:51 am GinySassenach: The Proposal was so funny. #scriptchat
12:51 am jeannevb: it needs more scotch ;) RT @SKCOMEDY: My browser is acting up! #scriptchat
12:51 am ZaNiaCmedic: Great analogy! RT @booksbelow: ... a comedic 'Waiting for Godot' #scriptchat
12:51 am SKCOMEDY: RU can combine both, but focus on storyT @Thefirstreel: @SKCOMEDY so keep things simple and observational versus jokes and gags? #scriptchat
12:51 am readerproof: Not really a funny movie, but one of the best ever RT @ttimechitchat: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? #scriptchat
12:52 am dimeotane: @Pale_Jewel Theres always going to be someone indignant with anything anyone says. Some people still have puritan values. #scriptchat
12:52 am ozzywood: How do you test screen comedy without a screen audience? Not enough if it works 'for you'... I guess. #scriptchat
12:52 am naultpullar: @ttimechitchat I saw it but do not remember the humor. #scriptchat
12:52 am jeannevb: agree! RT @readerproof: Not really a funny movie, but 1 of best ever RT @ttimechitchat: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? #scriptchat
12:52 am booksbelow: Good question! RT @ozzywood: How do you test screen comedy without a screen audience? Not enough if it works for you... I guess. #scriptchat
12:52 am SKCOMEDY: @ttimechitchat Sunshine is a good example of a comedy that didn't follow the rules. Some didn't care for I--I loved it #scriptchat
12:52 am ozzywood: Writers need to develop an 'instinct' but that takes time. How to work until that point? #scriptchat
12:52 am jeannevb: actor reading RT @ozzywood: How do you test screen comedy without a screen audience? Not enough if it works for you... I guess. #scriptchat
12:52 am GCGeek: @SKCOMEDY I like idea of reading out loud for others. It has to make me truly laugh out loud or I cut it; & now the review team. #scriptchat
12:53 am ZaNiaCmedic: I didn't even have time to grab my G&T! RT @jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY Q: do you need a refill of scotch yet? :) #scriptchat
12:53 am blankethouse: @readerproof @SKCOMEDY Q: what did u think of the movie Hangover? I loved it #scriptchat
12:53 am WriterChanelle: Can I ask what might be a tough question to answer...Af-Am comedies always seem to lampoon the race. Why does this keep selling? #scriptchat
12:53 am dwacon: @ozzywood An actor told me, after reading one of my comedies, ?I laughed my a$$ off.? Works for me. #scriptchat
12:53 am jeannevb: I found an acting class @ local college & they're DYING to read writer's screenplays. Go find one! #scriptchat
12:53 am Pale_Jewel: Yeah but do you think people want that style now days?RT @Joelsk_ @Pale_Jewel Airplane is fantastic!! the Zuckers are geniuses! #scriptchat
12:53 am SKCOMEDY: Hear the script read out loud--and don't blame others if things don;'t work! #scriptchat
12:53 am GCGeek: RT @jeannevb: I found an acting class @ local college & theyre DYING to read writers screenplays. Go find one! #scriptchat
12:53 am jeannevb: tsk tsk :) RT @ZaNiaCmedic: I didnt even have time to grab my G&T! RT @jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY Q: do u need a refill of scotch yet? #scriptchat
12:54 am WriterChanelle: Latest movie coming out: Lottery Ticket One of the phrases being used to sell it? "Ooo....I wanna have yo' baby" #scriptchat
12:54 am Thefirstreel: @SKCOMEDY what's the best way to test effectiveness of humor in script? Readings? #scriptchat
12:54 am DarlaV: Ultimate comedy points out the flagrant and absurd elephant in everyone's room. #scriptchat
12:54 am SKCOMEDY: Also, take improv classes, if you're not already an actor. Learn to think, and see, and speak from characters' POV #scriptchat
12:54 am sdarancette: #scriptchat is Dramatic. We drink to make it funny.
12:54 am TheWriteScript: @SKCOMEDY Q. If you could beat one idea into comedy writers' heads and hearts, what would it be? #scriptchat
12:54 am SKCOMEDY: Agree! RT @DarlaV: Ultimate comedy points out the flagrant and absurd elephant in everyones room. #scriptchat
12:54 am booksbelow: I think comedy is very age dependent, too. What I found funny in my twenties is different than what I find funny now. #scriptchat
12:54 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: Also, take improv classes, if youre not already an actor. Learn to think, and see, and speak from characters POV #scriptchat
12:55 am WriterChanelle: And this line comes from a girl after she finds out the guy won the lottery. How much more stereotypical can we be? #scriptchat
12:55 am ZaNiaCmedic: @WriterChanelle What demographic is buying? Af-Am? #scriptchat
12:55 am yeah_write: Is it bad if you ask someone to read your drama, and they send back notes saying they laughed their ass off? #scriptchat
12:55 am nate_winslow: @ozzywood @jeannevb Can't recommend that enough. Readings are life-savers. Mandy.com for any1 in a major US city is where to go. #scriptchat
12:55 am readerproof: @blankethouse The Hangover has an amazing structure. It's what sold it. It's hard to top. Plus, really funny! #scriptchat
12:55 am MyBrainHurts: RT @TheWriteScript: @SKCOMEDY 60 pages...LOL #scriptchat
12:55 am GCGeek: Finally, I've done something right! RT @SKCOMEDY: Also, take improv classes...Learn to think, & see, & speak from characters POV #scriptchat
12:55 am jeannevb: I'll try to have transcript up pronto so you can all see what EURO @thewritertype had to say as well #comedyworlddomination #scriptchat
12:55 am Timsn: RT @DarlaV: Ultimate comedy points out the flagrant and absurd elephant in everyone's room. #scriptchat
12:55 am DarlaV: Comedy needn't be obscene, but the situations we find ourselves in, are naturally obscene. Pointing that out is imperative. #scriptchat
12:55 am shorester: RT @yeah_write: Is it bad if you ask someone to read your drama, and they send back notes saying they laughed their ass off? #scriptchat
12:55 am Thefirstreel: @SKCOMEDY if you live with actors does it payoff to play lines off each other? #scriptchat
12:55 am jeannevb: RT @nate_winslow: @ozzywood @jeannevb Can't recommend that enough. Readings are life-savers. Mandy.com for any1 in a major US city is where to go. #scriptchat
12:55 am sdarancette: @SKCOMEDY Have you done stand-up comedy? If this has been asked already, my apologies. #scriptchat
12:56 am SKCOMEDY: @booksbelow That may be so, but you can only write from your own point of view, and try to tell your own truth as best you can. #scriptchat
12:56 am dwacon: @Joelsk_ The IT Crowd is the funniest thing I've ever seen. But the US version bombed at the pilot phase. Lost in xlation? #scriptchat
12:56 am The_Jodi: @ttimechitchat I enjoyed Eternal Sunshine! And laughed :) #scriptchat
12:56 am DoubleNW: @Timsn Mos def. #scriptchat
12:56 am ozzywood: It'll resonate as long as there's racial pain? RT @WriterChanelle: Af-Am comedies lampoon the race. Why does this keep selling? #scriptchat
12:56 am WriterChanelle: African Americans don't sell out theaters nationwide RT @zaniacmedic: @WriterChanelle What demographic is buying? Af-Am? #scriptchat
12:56 am DryerBuzz: @INDIA_CELESTE have you seen #scriptchat
12:56 am ttimechitchat: @naultpullar @readerproof @jeannevb It's billed as a romantic comedy. Good performance though. #scriptchat
12:56 am SKCOMEDY: Sell it as a comedy and take $ T @Thefirstreel: @SKCOMEDY if you live with actors does it payoff to play lines off each other? #scriptchat
12:56 am WriterChanelle: @zaniacmedic Not by ourselves. There are others watching these movies. #scriptchat
12:56 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: @booksbelow you can only write from your own point of view, and try to tell your own truth as best you can. #scriptchat
12:56 am readerproof: The Hangover is kind of a curse in Hwood. Now everyone pitches their comedy script with: "It's The Hangover meets..." #scriptchat
12:56 am FuglyCharlie: @yeah_write Have you had someone actuallly laugh their ass off at one of your drama scipts before? #scriptchat
12:57 am ttimechitchat: I'll rewatch RT @SKCOMEDY: Sunshine is a good example of a comedy that didnt follow the rules. Some didnt care for I--I loved it #scriptchat
12:58 am blankethouse: @readerproof Haha, very tru. Kinda like, "its like Matrix but..." #scriptchat
12:58 am KageyNYC: @readerproof "ensemble comedy in the vein of The Hangover..." I see that ALL the time. #scriptchat
12:58 am naultpullar: @readerproof It will be until the next big thing comes along and then it will be ... meets the... #scriptchat
12:58 am booksbelow: Well, I guess I'll finally have to watch The Hangover! :-) #scriptchat
12:58 am WriterChanelle: #scriptchat See. RT @AndreaDMorgan: @WriterChanelle I just saw that commercial and cringed
12:58 am ttimechitchat: RT @jeannevb: actor reading RT @ozzywood: How do you test screen comedy without a screen audience? Not enough if it works for u #scriptchat
12:58 am AyeQue: @ozzywood @writerchanelle does it really sell though.., specifc niche market. #scriptchat
12:58 am jeannevb: We shld do ETERNAL SUNSHINE one Script Night @ttimechitchat: RT @SKCOMEDY: Sgood ex of comedy that didnt follow the rules. #scriptchat
12:59 am WriterChanelle: It sells enough to be made into a movie RT @AyeQue @ozzywood @writerchanelle does it really sell though.., specifc niche market. #scriptchat
12:59 am ozzywood: Learning how to write comedy is also about being totally honest and be ready to fail? Just do it and learn what DOESN'T work? #scriptchat
12:59 am SKCOMEDY: I laughed at Hangover, but didn't love it. I LOVED 500 Days of Summer. And Tropic Thunder. #scriptchat
12:59 am sdarancette: I'm curious to know how crucial it is to have stand-up experience to be successful in tv comedy writing. I don't do stand-up. #scriptchat
12:59 am WriterChanelle: There are hundreds of thousands of scripts that never get made into a movie. @AyeQue #scriptchat
1:00 am KageyNYC: noted ;) RT @jeannevb: We shld do ETERNAL SUNSHINE one Script Night @ttimechitchat @SKCOMEDY #scriptchat
1:00 am WriterChanelle: #scriptchat RT @EmerejSnwot: its just like sex..the worst Af-Am have to offer sells, its "funny". Being intelligent & funny not so much
1:00 am readerproof: @SKCOMEDY Tropic Thunder, that's a good one. I call it a "Hardcore Comedy". #scriptchat
1:00 am ozzywood: It seems the greatest comedians often had a long time learning through - sometimes painful - standup experience. #scriptchat
1:00 am stacy_chambers: @SKCOMEDY Ah, Tropic Thunder was great! #scriptchat
1:01 am jeannevb: @sdarancette have u met @2degreesofalie yet? She works on Conan :) #youwillloveher #scriptchat
1:01 am Timsn: RT @HigherFrequency: Thank you Steve @SKCOMEDY 4 taking the time 2 answer our questions about comedy writing on #scriptchat ~
1:01 am SKCOMEDY: @sdarancette I think Improv is more useful than stand-up #scriptchat
1:01 am DarlaV: Effective comedy writing includes the ability to write expressions- not just dialogue. Descriptive prose is like physical comedy #scriptchat
1:01 am ozzywood: Other way around for me;) RT @SKCOMEDY I laughed at Hangover, but didnt love it. I LOVED 500 Days of Summer. And Tropic Thunder. #scriptchat
1:01 am Thefirstreel: @ozzywood Joe rogan podcasts have multiple stories of his early failures and writing and rewriting #scriptchat
1:01 am ZaNiaCmedic: Ditto. @booksbelow: Well, I guess I'll finally have to watch The Hangover! :-) #scriptchat
1:01 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: @sdarancette I think Improv is more useful than stand-up #scriptchat
1:02 am jeannevb: @KageyNYC :) #scriptchat
1:02 am SKCOMEDY: @ozzywood What comedians do, more than anything else, is study other comedians when they were kids! #scriptchat
1:02 am FuglyCharlie: @yeah_write Ohhh .. okay. #scriptchat
1:02 am yeah_write: One more time,please visit @SKCOMEDY at http://bit.ly/4NBI0V He offers great classes. Dec.4-5 in LA. #scriptchat
1:02 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: @ozzywood What comedians do, more than anything else, is study other comedians when they were kids! #scriptchat
1:02 am jeannevb: It's the bewitching hour...@SKCOMEDY SURVIVED! :) #scriptchat
1:02 am WrittenbyBene: RT @WriterChanelle: Tough question: Af-Am comedies always seem to lampoon the race. Why does this keep selling? #scriptchat
1:02 am ttimechitchat: Guess I'l have to re-watch it...or maybe my sense of humor is shot. ;-) RT @The_Jodi: I enjoyed Eternal Sunshine! And laughed :) #scriptchat
1:02 am jtabergas: @SKCOMEDY Really enjoyed this chat. Thanks for sharing your comedy writing advice! #scriptchat
1:02 am omewan: RT @jeannevb: If anyone missed our GROUNDHOG DAY discussion last wk, here's transcript: http://bit.ly/912Bsg #scriptchat
1:03 am Pale_Jewel: I make myself laugh a lot. Does that mean I'm funny? ;) #scriptchat
1:03 am writeononline: @jeannevb Quick pimp? Summer Challenge deadline is 8/31 "Write a fictional How I Spent My Summer Vacay" http://bit.ly/ds4Sru #scriptchat
1:03 am ZaNiaCmedic: Tr. Thunder was hilarious! @SKCOMEDY: I laughed at Hangover, but didn't love it. I LOVED 500 Days of Summer. And Tropic Thunder. #scriptchat
1:03 am dwacon: Mel Brooks did tons of great humor that used Jewish stereotypes. Max Fleischer also before him. Comedy is not PC. #scriptchat
1:03 am ozzywood: TRUE. STEVE ROCKS!!! RT @yeah_write: please visit @SKCOMEDY at http://bit.ly/4NBI0V He offers great classes. Dec.4-5 in LA. #scriptchat
1:03 am GCGeek: @SKCOMEDY Thanks for everything tonight, Steve! I'm going to re-read the transcript. See you in December! #scriptchat
1:03 am WriterChanelle: RT @ozzywood: It'll resonate as long as there's racial pain? RT @WriterChanelle: Af-Am comedies lampoon. Why does this sell? #scriptchat
1:03 am SKCOMEDY: @jtabergas You're welcome! #scriptchat
1:03 am jeannevb: Thank you so much for joining us @SKCOMEDY! As many know, Steve is a chat regular but nice to have him in spotlight tonight :) #scriptchat
1:03 am blankethouse: @ZaNiaCmedic @booksbelow I laughed so hard at Hangover, but I had good company to laugh with. Its not the same alone! #scriptchat
1:04 am WriterChanelle: There are so many of us who are beyond tired of this "niche". We want realistic portrayals that are still funny. @ozzywood #scriptchat
1:04 am jeannevb: RT @writeononline: @jeannevb Quick pimp? Summer Challenge deadline is 8/31 "Write a fictional How I Spent My Summer Vacay" http://bit.ly/ds4Sru #scriptchat
1:04 am SKCOMEDY: @DarlaV I'd watch out for overwriting descriptions--big no-no. U have to convey what's going on with a minimum of description. #scriptchat
1:04 am dwacon: @SKCOMEDY Nice meeting ya. Hasta la comedy, baby. #scriptchat
1:04 am GCGeek: You've guaranteed one ticket sale! Can only get better :) RT @Pale_Jewel: I make myself laugh a lot. Does that mean Im funny? ;) #scriptchat
1:04 am KageyNYC: Yay, @SKCOMEDY great job, thanks! #scriptchat
1:04 am nate_winslow: Thanks Steve! Many notes were taken. #scriptchat
1:04 am jeannevb: @WriterChanelle I agree. I'd like to see that too. #scriptchat
1:04 am WriterChanelle: These comedies seem to be written for the lowest common denominator. @ozzywood #scriptchat
1:04 am booksbelow: Thanks @SKCOMEDY for a great chat, and to @jeannevb and #treefort for bringing us this commercial free! #scriptchat
1:05 am ZaNiaCmedic: No. Just simple. :) @Pale_Jewel: I make myself laugh a lot. Does that mean I'm funny? ;) #scriptchat
1:05 am TheWriteScript: @SKCOMEDY Thanks for being here! #scriptchat
1:05 am Joelsk_: @Pale_Jewel Yes indeed. I crave comedy like that. It would be a welcomed break to current comedy #scriptchat
1:05 am ozzywood: Thank you @jeannevb and @SKCOMEDY! Thanks to your efforts, we're fortunate enough to be learning from the best! #scriptchat
1:05 am Pale_Jewel: @SKCOMEDY thanks for the #scriptchat
1:05 am sdarancette: @jeannevb I have not met @2degreesofalie BUT I'd love to... hi, 2degrees! #scriptchat
1:05 am GinySassenach: Thanks @skcomedy and #treefort for another great #scriptchat
1:05 am stacy_chambers: Thanks, @SKCOMEDY. Great job. Learned a lot. #scriptchat
1:05 am Joelsk_: Unfortunately we are stuck with Will Farrell and Seth Rogan. whom do nothing for me comedy wise. #scriptchat
1:05 am writeononline: RT @ozzywood: Thank you @jeannevb and @SKCOMEDY! Thanks to your efforts, we're fortunate enough to be learning from the best! #scriptchat
1:06 am WriterChanelle: #scriptchat Why?? RT @AndreaDMorgan Af-Am don't have varied emotions portrayed on screen, those who pay go for nonsense because it sells
1:06 am ZaNiaCmedic: Ditto! RT @booksbelow: Thanks @SKCOMEDY for a great chat, and to @jeannevb and #treefort for bringing us this commercial free! #scriptchat
1:06 am Thefirstreel: @SKCOMEDY thank you very much for the insights Steve! #scriptchat
1:06 am blankethouse: @readerproof @SKCOMEDY Robert Downey Jr was great in Tropic Thunder. The overall movie was ok for me. #scriptchat
1:06 am Joelsk_: @dwacon apparently they are going to try a US version of IT Crowd again. wonder if it'll take off this time #scriptchat
1:06 am SKCOMEDY: Upcoming Comedy Intensives in LA, Chicago, Winnipeg and Melbourne! #scriptchat
1:06 am The_Jodi: @SKCOMEDY Thanks and nite! #scriptchat
1:06 am jeannevb: @sdarancette been friends w @2degreesofalie for years... in real life even :) She likes cookie dough. Just sayin ;) #bribery #scriptchat
1:06 am Timsn: Thank you agein @SKCOMEDY and the #scriptchat treefort team for giving us this chat!
1:06 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: Upcoming Comedy Intensives in LA, Chicago, Winnipeg and Melbourne! #scriptchat
1:06 am jeannevb: RT @SKCOMEDY: Upcoming Comedy Intensives in LA, Chicago, Winnipeg and Melbourne! #scriptchat
1:07 am dwacon: If you have IFC also watch ?Freaks and Geeks? -- it crashed and burned first run but is comic genius by future big stars. #scriptchat
1:07 am WriterChanelle: @AndreaDMorgan These movies are supposed to be satirical to get us to change, but the ppl who see it don't get it #scriptchat
1:07 am jeannevb: you are all welcome! It is an HONOR for the #treefort team to serve you all! *curtsy* #scriptchat
1:07 am sdarancette: @ozzywood That's how I feel. Stand-up not my thing. Stage fright. But I've done some acting and improv. No stage fright. Oddly. #scriptchat
1:07 am ZaNiaCmedic: BANG ON! @Joelsk_: Unfortunately we are stuck with Will Farrell and Seth Rogan. whom do nothing for me comedy wise. #scriptchat
1:07 am MyBrainHurts: Poop. #scriptchat wouldn't fit at the end of my question. I'm such a n00b.
1:07 am naultpullar: All right! My fancy pants have got to get back to work. Have a great night everyone. #scriptchat
1:07 am SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb Thank you! Can I finish drinking my scotch now? #scriptchat
1:08 am PamTweeting: RT @SKCOMEDY: Upcoming Comedy Intensives in LA, Chicago, Winnipeg and Melbourne! #scriptchat
1:08 am sdarancette: @jeannevb @2degreesofalie You'd have to be a Nazi Monster NOT to like cookie dough. #scriptchat
1:08 am nate_winslow: One final pimp: For next months Script Night you get to pick! Go 2 http://bit.ly/9FZspS and vote for a "bad" script 2 learn from #scriptchat
1:08 am jeannevb: YES! Make it a double! :) RT @SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb Thank you! Can I finish drinking my scotch now? #scriptchat
1:08 am KageyNYC: Spring? Or never? #scarednow RT @scripteach Just when are you taking a class w/me? ;-> #scriptchat
1:08 am Joelsk_: @Joelsk_ I showed Airplane to some youngsters once and they didn't get alot of it. #scriptchat
1:08 am ZaNiaCmedic: Ok... off to reward myself for my quick scrolling abilities with a gin and tonic! #scriptchat
1:08 am FuglyCharlie: @SKCOMEDY Thanks for the chat... #scriptchat
1:08 am dimeotane: Depends if you spilled your sippy cup... ;) #scriptchat
1:08 am GCGeek: Agreed! RT @dwacon: If you have IFC watch ?Freaks and Geeks? - it crashed & burned 1st run but is comic genius by future stars. #scriptchat
1:09 am DoubleNW: I can't believe no1 n #scriptchat has seen BAPS. Very funny comedy.
1:09 am dwacon: @SKCOMEDY As a Tennessee Squire -- I only recommend Tennessee Whisky or Kentucky Bourbon as #2. #scriptchat
1:09 am Politiku: #scriptchat hey, when does this happen & how can I get notified?
1:09 am The_Jodi: @Joelsk_ I would like Will and Seth and Ben much more if there were equally quirky women working! #scriptchat
1:09 am yeah_write: I thought you'd like the reference to The Ugly Truth. #scriptchat RT @robluketic: @yeah_write yes. He is. Hi!
1:09 am WriterChanelle: It's one of my big pet peeves RT @jeannevb: @WriterChanelle I agree. I'd like to see that too. #scriptchat
1:09 am SKCOMEDY: @zaniacmedic Hate the game, don't hate the players--Rogan is great in 40-Year Old Virgin #scriptchat
1:10 am jeannevb: @WriterChanelle now I understand the quest u asked the other day? #scriptchat
1:10 am SKCOMEDY: With the wrong vehicle, anyone can suck. I'm talking about you, Evan Almighty! #scriptchat
1:11 am readerproof: Such a bad movie. RT @SKCOMEDY: With the wrong vehicle, anyone can suck. Im talking about you, Evan Almighty! #scriptchat
1:11 am dwacon: @DoubleNW I saw BAPS and enjoyed it. #scriptchat
1:11 am SKCOMEDY: @The_Jodi Amen to that, sister! #scriptchat
1:11 am booksbelow: :-) Really! RT @SKCOMEDY: With the wrong vehicle, anyone can suck. Im talking about you, Evan Almighty! #scriptchat
1:12 am SKCOMEDY: @yeah_write The Ugly Truth--Slowly I turn! (steam coming out of ears)! #scriptchat
1:12 am Pale_Jewel: @zaniacmedic lol harsh! #scriptchat
1:12 am WriterChanelle: @jeannevb This is the thing...I'm not one of TP's haters. I see the purpose in his attempts. I think his scripts are bad. #scriptchat
1:12 am sdarancette: Taco Time! Time to make the Tacos. Tacos don't make themselves. But if they did.... #scriptchat
1:12 am Jonathan_Peace: RT @Jonathan_Peace: Hey all sorry I missed both #scriptchat have been recovering from a REALLY bad hangover. Will catch the transcrpts
1:13 am PamTweeting: RT @SKCOMEDY: Hear the script read out loud--and don't blame others if things don't work! #scriptchat #screenwriting #writing
1:13 am booksbelow: Before the strict @jeannevb cut off discussion of RomComs, wanted to mention Harold and Maude (or does that date me too much?) #scriptchat
1:13 am SKCOMEDY: @WriterChanelle Who is TP? #scriptchat
1:14 am dwacon: @SKCOMEDY Tom Panks? #scriptchat
1:14 am SKCOMEDY: @Jonathan_Peace I'm trying to catch up with you, hangover-wise. #scriptchat
1:14 am GCGeek: Yes, we all agree we love The Hangover! Oh, but not yours. @Jonathan_Peace #scriptchat
1:14 am WriterChanelle: @jeannevb Most people hate him because of his characters and "minstrel show" themes. That's not how I feel. #scriptchat
1:14 am WriterChanelle: @SKCOMEDY Tyler Perry #scriptchat
1:14 am ttimechitchat: Tyler Perry. RT @SKCOMEDY: @WriterChanelle Who is TP? #scriptchat
1:14 am DoubleNW: @dwacon U have restored my faith n #scriptchat : ) It's funny!!
1:15 am booksbelow: @Jonathan_Peace Considering much of discussion on film 'The Hangover' you are walking the talk! #scriptchat
1:15 am GinySassenach: @SKCOMEDY Sorry but the worst comedy to come out lately is The Pink Panther remakes.....so bad #scriptchat
1:15 am Jonathan_Peace: Would have loved to gain some insight into wrting comedy as I'm working on my frst one: 310 To Nottingham (r-rated rom com) #scriptchat
1:15 am jeannevb: @booksbelow you are officially old hahaha #haroldandmaude #butsoamI ;) #scriptchat
1:16 am EstherK: #scriptchat I thought the Hangover was very funny, but I don't see what's so "amazing" about its structure.
1:16 am ttimechitchat: Agreed! RT @WriterChanelle: @jeannevb Most ppl hate him because of his characters & "minstrel show" themes.Thats not how I feel. #scriptchat
1:16 am Joelsk_: @The_Jodi More Tina Fey! :D #scriptchat
1:16 am jeannevb: I will let you all do a comedy ramble for a bit b4 I pull transcript. But wanted to thank @SKCOMEDY one more time! xoxo #scriptchat
1:16 am Jonathan_Peace: Damn you Mr Daniels. *shakes fist* We were friends last night. Why do you hate me so today!!!? #scriptchat
1:17 am SKCOMEDY: I agree--Tyler Perry scripts suck, but he's filling a niche no one else will #scriptchat
1:17 am WriterChanelle: Same RT @ZaNiaCmedic: @Joelsk_ Unfortunately we are stuck with Will Farrell and Seth Rogan. whom do nothing for me comedy wise. #scriptchat
1:17 am booksbelow: @jeannevb I remember George Burns when he was my age, which makes me really, really, old! #scriptchat
1:17 am Joelsk_: @EstherK Hangover was a funny film. made me laugh. but its a once over comedy. doesn't really make you laugh the second time #scriptchat
1:18 am SKCOMEDY: Agree. @GinySassenach Sorry but the worst comedy to come out lately is The Pink Panther remakes.....so bad #scriptchat
1:18 am GCGeek: I like "Fatty" Arbuckle. #ReallyOld RT @jeannevb: @booksbelow you are officially old hahaha #haroldandmaude #butsoamI ;) #scriptchat
1:18 am dwacon: @SKCOMEDY Tyler is making billions and Hollywood is scratching its head trying to figure out. Money talks, bull$#!t walks. #scriptchat
1:18 am Joelsk_: @GinySassenach Agreed. the Pink Pather film were terrible. I was more in shock at how bad they were #scriptchat
1:18 am SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb You're welcome, one more time! If only I could read and type faster! #scriptchat
1:18 am ttimechitchat: Bet that's how "TheHangover" was conceived! :)RT @Jonathan_Peace: Damn u Mr Daniels. *shakes fist* We were friends last night... #scriptchat
1:19 am The_Jodi: @Joelsk_ Exactly! Tina and Amy P need some girlfriends! (Who are not Katherine Heigl!) #scriptchat
1:19 am Joelsk_: Watched Pineapple Express the other day. Had heard great things, but it was pretty bad. maybe 4 big laughs in the film #scriptchat
1:20 am booksbelow: I never really liked original Panther films either, only liked Sellers in 'Being There', brilliant! #scriptchat
1:20 am SKCOMEDY: He married a detective story to a frat party pic. @EstherK #scriptchat Hangover was funny, but what's so "amazing" about its structure?
1:20 am yeah_write: @robluketic Maybe some day you can be a fly on the wall in our screenwriter's chat at #scriptchat
1:20 am dwacon: The movie that made me laugh the hardest and longest was Don Coscarelli? horror classic ?Phantasm.? Angus Schrimm -- hoo hah! #scriptchat
1:21 am yeah_write: Typing faster only makes you dizzy. RT @SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb You're welcome, one more time! If only I could read and type faster! #scriptchat
1:21 am ttimechitchat: He had core theater audience b4 films, that helps. RT @dwacon: @SKCOMEDY Tyler is making billions & Hwood is scratching its head #scriptchat
1:21 am dimeotane: Love Tina Fey's comedy... not many women comedy writers/ comedians that I know of, but she's the best! #scriptchat
1:21 am SKCOMEDY: OK, I'm offically signing off and concentrating on heavy drinking. #scriptchat
1:21 am GinySassenach: @booksbelow Being there was great! #scriptchat
1:22 am yeah_write: @SKCOMEDY Am I the only person in the world who hasn't seen The Hangover? #scriptchat
1:22 am ZaNiaCmedic: Night Steve! Thanks! RT @SKCOMEDY: OK, I'm offically signing off and concentrating on heavy drinking. #scriptchat
1:22 am GCGeek: Personal idol. RT @dimeotane: Love Tina Feys comedy...not many women comedy writers/comedians that I know of, but shes the best! #scriptchat
1:23 am The_Jodi: @SKCOMEDY Cheers! #scriptchat
1:23 am dwacon: I'm selling novelizations of my scripts on Apple iBooks as a TP-esque move. Jury still out on that... #scriptchat
1:23 am GinySassenach: @yeah_write No, i haven't seen it either! #scriptchat
1:23 am yeah_write: Thanks for sticking around for overtime. @SKCOMEDY You are awesome! #scriptchat
1:23 am Jonathan_Peace: I Love You Man/Forgettng Sarah Marshall is closest to what I'm aiming at in my comedy. I love the real quality to the dialogue. #scriptchat
1:24 am Nickalosi: Thanks for the tips, going to go write about something I think is funny and hope someone finds the humor in it. #scriptchat
1:24 am ozzywood: Great (mini)#scriptchat. Now back into 2 script assessments, then onto the online workshop. I have designed the perfect life. ;)
1:25 am The_Jodi: @dimeotane Tina's awesome! No idea how she ventured into the boys' club and kept smiling. #scriptchat
1:25 am Pale_Jewel: @SKCOMEDY well I wish my scripts would suck so I can fill a niche and get paid for it. #scriptchat
1:25 am ttimechitchat: @jeannevb @SKCOMEDY and the entire #scriptchat gang thanks for a wonderful chat!
1:25 am yeah_write: Now I'm afraid to ask if anyone will read my RomCom when it's done. #scriptchat
1:25 am jeannevb: @ozzywood online workshop? :) (psst @naultpullar ) #scriptchat
1:26 am jeannevb: ur very welcome! #treefort RT @ttimechitchat: @jeannevb @SKCOMEDY and the entire #scriptchat gang thanks for a wonderful chat! #scriptchat
1:26 am iceberg061: I'm looking for #shortfilm #scripts to direct. Any genre will suffice. If you have any you want produced let me know ASAP! #scriptchat
1:26 am jeannevb: now to see if the transcript pulls *gulp* #scriptchat
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