EURO kicked us off the glorious summer evening (ok, except in OZ where our chatters are chattering their teeth) talking about writing for ensemble casts. The USA continued it with gusto… and even veered off onto a dirty side road (leave it to the Americans). Read on and enjoy! @jeannevb
EURO moderator: Mina Zaher, @DreamsGrafter
USA moderator: Jeanne Veillette Bowerman, @jeannevb
EURO chat:
7:00 pm DreamsGrafter: #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK ... Talking Ensemble Casts ... Does anyone want to kick off with any initial thoughts?
7:00 pm DreamsGrafter: Hi everyone ... :) #scriptchat
7:01 pm Jonathan_Peace: @DreamsGrafter Evening! My initial thought: ensemble = movies like Towering Inferno; Earthquake; Poseidon Adventure #scriptchat
7:01 pm DreamsGrafter: Does anyone want to look at any specific ensemble casts? Reservoir Dogs? Little Miss Sunshine? TV Drama, Hustle? #scriptchat
7:01 pm Jonathan_Peace: but then I am a B-movie junkie #scriptchat
7:02 pm ozzywood: Act three: the final showdown. http://bit.ly/duunC6 #screenwriting #scriptchat BEST OF THE WEB: http://bit.ly/c24mez
7:02 pm DreamsGrafter: @Jonathan_Peace Wow, LOVE those movies! #scriptchat
7:02 pm Bang2write: Too many scribes think ensemble casts means an equal amount of screentime for all characters, but role functions still apply #scriptchat
7:03 pm lizziside: I'm in, hi #scriptchat
7:03 pm Sofluid: RT @DreamsGrafter: #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK ... Talking Ensemble Casts ... Do you mean, for example, multi-celebrity/film star casts?
7:03 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Hi Lucy! Thanks for joining in ... :) #scriptchat
7:03 pm booksbelow: The Big Chill is classic #scriptchat
7:04 pm lupiilu: hello all, feels like ages since I was here last. lol #scriptchat
7:04 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter I think ensemble casts v advanced in terms of characterisation, I detail more here: http://tinyurl.com/33oxbz7 #scriptchat
7:04 pm LisaFromNYC: @DreamsGrafter RD is one of my fav Ens, but I love QT (PF is another). Also enjoy SNATCH and some others... #scriptchat
7:04 pm Bang2write: @Sofluid there's a difference between an ensemble cast and an "all star cast" #scriptchat
7:05 pm DreamsGrafter: Great film! And the character that brought them together is dead. Love it. RT @booksbelow: The Big Chill is classic #scriptchat
7:05 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2write: Too many scribes think ensemble casts means an equal amount of screentime for all characters, but role functions still apply #scriptchat
7:05 pm Veramark2010: RT @Bang2write: 2 many scribes think ensemble casts = equal amount of screentime 4 all characters but role functions still apply #scriptchat
7:05 pm Jonathan_Peace: In an ensemble characters should only be onscreen as and when their story is needed to be seen to move the overall story fwd #scriptchat
7:05 pm booksbelow: "An ensemble cast is a cast in which the principal performers are assigned roughly equal amounts of importance" Wikipedia #scriptchat
7:05 pm Bang2write: @Sofluid (though sometimes an all star cast is an ensemble cast, LOL) #scriptchat
7:05 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write So re: the active question that drives the story, we're still following a single character's goal? #scriptchat
7:05 pm lizziside: Yes RT @booksbelow: The Big Chill is classic #scriptchat
7:06 pm lupiilu: @Jonathan_Peace I'm watching Top Gear... lol #scriptchat
7:06 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Or is it that the ensemble cast has the same goal but one character's journey stands out more than the others? #scriptchat
7:06 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat - Aha, defeated by my dyslexia. Just spent the last five minutes looking at a blank column and calling you all bastards! HA!
7:06 pm Jonathan_Peace: @lupiilu you're a dude really, aren't you? #scriptchat
7:07 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter not necessarily, in STAND BY ME, ALL the boys want 2C the body... Tho it's narrator who draws something from it #scriptchat
7:07 pm lupiilu: @Jonathan_Peace lol, don't you start! #scriptchat
7:07 pm Veramark2010: @DreamsGrafter What if all ensemble characters have the same goal and / or the same question that drives them? #scriptchat
7:07 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2Write: The main issues then with both the TV specs and feature scripts I see? http://tinyurl.com/33oxbz7 #scriptchat
7:08 pm lupiilu: @filmutopia pmsl #scriptchat
7:08 pm LisaFromNYC: U could have a specific theme that runs through, maybe not each having the same exact goal. (i think) #scriptchat
7:08 pm jeannevb: Amen! RT @MJ_Slide: Bet u wish it was tequila ;) RT @jeannevb: Floating on our lake. #dayoff #scriptchat http://tweetphoto.com/33508475
7:08 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat - Just to clarify are we talking about writing for an ensemble cast... or writing multi-protagonist?
7:08 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter I think there is always 1 character who edges out, if only slightly. I call that character the "umbrella" #scriptchat
7:08 pm Veramark2010: @Sofluid But if it's just one person's story, is it still an ensemble film? #scriptchat
7:08 pm DreamsGrafter: @VeraMark2010 I just asked @Bang2Write that ... Lucy's starting to answer question (below) ... #scriptchat
7:09 pm DreamsGrafter: @filmutopia Ensemble cast ... though that's an interesting distinction. #scriptchat
7:09 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat - I guess I'm thinking about the difference between Woody Allen circa 1990 or something like Crash
7:09 pm Veramark2010: @DreamsGrafter Oops, yes... am not back up to speed with this chat yet, been missing out on it for too long! ;°) #scriptchat
7:10 pm dizzydentfilms: For great examples of ensemble, see Robert Altman, Mike Leigh, PT Anderson, Tarantino. #scriptchat
7:10 pm DreamsGrafter: Anyone care to define the difference between ensemble cast and multi-protagonist? #scriptchat
7:10 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter I think there is always 1 character who edges out, if only slightly. I call that character the "umbrella" #scriptchat
7:10 pm thewritertype: #scriptchat Ensemble. Altman. Maestro. EG: Gosford Park: multiple characters, stories; main spine emerges slowly.
7:10 pm Veramark2010: What about Crash? #scriptchat
7:10 pm lupiilu: I'm writing an ensemble at the moment actually, 6 characters, they all have different goals, 1 character harder to write than >> #scriptchat
7:11 pm lizziside: RT @dizzydentfilms: For great examples of ensemble, see Robert Altman, Mike Leigh, PT Anderson, Tarantino. #scriptchat
7:11 pm lupiilu: >> others, where as there are two interaction easier to write as they're the love interest, it's challenging #scriptchat
7:12 pm Bang2write: To me, an ensemble cast is a single goal w/ umbrella character all others help/hinder; multi-protags have same goal/theme #scriptchat
7:12 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write From what I've seen re Hustle, Little Miss Sunshine, it's this umbrella that keeps the group focused on goal ... no? #scriptchat
7:13 pm Sofluid: @VeraMark2010 #scriptchat Indeed... I read a script where all characters had their own melodramas = hard to tell whose story it was...
7:13 pm DreamsGrafter: @thewritertype Hey Paul ... :) #scriptchat Absolutely, Altman indeed.
7:13 pm Bang2write: To me, ensemble casts is essentially same as traditional film - but space between protag/antag & secondaries is "shorter" #scriptchat
7:13 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2write: To me, an ensemble cast is a single goal w/ umbrella character all others help/hinder; multi-protags have same goal/theme #scriptchat
7:13 pm Veramark2010: Q: In ens.films, does theme takes on diffrt role - holds story together? Becomes (additional) protagonist? #scriptchat
7:13 pm robertshutter: RT @Screenpens #indiefilm #film RT @ozzywood: Questions of character. http://bit.ly/9dojms #screenwriting #scriptchat BEST OF THE... h...
7:13 pm lupiilu: @filmutopia best way to develop any tool is to use it, obvious I know, but just a thought. #scriptchat
7:13 pm booksbelow: @Bang2write Who is umbrella character in 'Big Chill', the dead friend? #scriptchat
7:14 pm lizziside: What's the main function of ensemble cast? What's the design behind this choice? #scriptchat
7:14 pm Jonathan_Peace: tonights scriptchat beer still tastes like mouthwash thanks to too many mint humbugs. Just saying. #scriptchat
7:14 pm Veramark2010: @Bang2write So that makes Crash multi-protag rather than ensemble? #scriptchat
7:14 pm filmutopia: @Bang2write Where does Crimes and Misdemeanors fit into that? There you have three protagonists with overlapping stories #scriptchat
7:14 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter yes, the "leader" -- and the one audiences often fixate on, esp TV ie. Captn Jack, Gene Hunt, Mickey Briggs #scriptchat
7:15 pm Sofluid: #scriptchat I think an ensemble cast can work if characters are linked appropriately. If link is too weak, script risks being too fractured
7:15 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write So multi-protagonists have the same goal but each character has their own journey? i.e separate stories?#scriptchat
7:15 pm dizzydentfilms: There's also pieces like Short Cuts and Traffic (Soderberg) which have multiple protags, but are interwoven stories. #scriptchat
7:16 pm Jonathan_Peace: I categorise an ensemble as one over-riding story to which all the characters add their own unique perspective. #scriptchat
7:16 pm janetvaneeden: @VeraMark2010 #scriptchat Want to say very little except multiple protagonists = ensemble chars and there're always stars who shine more!
7:16 pm Veramark2010: Going waaay back - The Magnificent Seven. Ensemble film? #scriptchat
7:17 pm dizzydentfilms: For great conflict, give your the characters opposing needs and wants from the protag. Then your story will take off. #scriptchat
7:17 pm booksbelow: I think Big Chill is true ensemble, Traffic is multi-protagonist #scriptchat
7:18 pm lupiilu: @Jonathan_Peace I think there should be one over riding story that brings them together, one by one or all together but I >>> #scriptchat
7:18 pm DreamsGrafter: @LisaFromNYC Hey Lisa ... :) I'm starting to think QT is more multiple protagonists rather than ensemble ... #scriptchat
7:18 pm Bang2write: @booksbelow Cor blimey, been ages since I saw it! @VeraMark2010 yes I think so, tho TBH I didn't sit thru all of Crash! : ) #scriptchat
7:18 pm dizzydentfilms: @lizziside Main function should be to keeping the protag from getting what she needs. Same as in real life. Hee hee. #scriptchat
7:18 pm lupiilu: >>> I don't think it's necessary to have them all on the same story, they can each have their own journey but I believe it >>> #scriptchat
7:19 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat Traditionally, an ensemble cast has meant, a project where there are either too many or too few lead actors.
7:19 pm lupiilu: >>> should contribute to the whole somehow. #scriptchat
7:19 pm twatterer: @VeraMark2010 Magnificent Seven has the group as the protag. They each have different issues but a common goal :) #scriptchat
7:19 pm thewritertype: @booksbeloew #scriptchat. Right. Ensemble means together. All in same place, same time.
7:20 pm lizziside: @dizzydentfilms right, got it #scriptchat
7:20 pm Jonathan_Peace: @lupiilu <<<<<<< what she said. #scriptchat
7:20 pm Veramark2010: @Bang2write U say umbrella char holds ensbl film together. Could something else do that, e.g. theme or location (LA, Nashville?) #scriptchat
7:20 pm DreamsGrafter: @twatterer Hi Jared ... :) Haha, sob indeed ... #sosotragic #scriptchat
7:21 pm booksbelow: RT @thewritertype: @booksbelow #scriptchat. Right. Ensemble means together. All in same place, same time. #scriptchat
7:21 pm omewan: @filmutopia love this! thanks! #scriptchat
7:21 pm LisaFromNYC: @DreamsGrafter tbh I'm confused. ex PF seems 2 b an ensemble, just struct'd diff. Each w diff goals but feeding the mess/theme. #scriptchat
7:21 pm DreamsGrafter: A tip from @Bang2Write: Character and story - the situation they find themselves in - should be introduced hand-in-hand. #scriptchat
7:22 pm Bang2write: @VeraMark2010 oh yes - end of day, a film or TV series can do anything. I think audience roots for the umbrella tho, esp in TV #scriptchat
7:22 pm DreamsGrafter: And according to @Bang2Write, don't have too many characters in your ensemble cast. #scriptchat
7:22 pm lupiilu: I liked the ensemb of He's Just Not That Into You, they didn't all know each other, there wasn't one char that knew them all >>> #scriptchat
7:23 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter thanks Mina. Too much character intro is in most specs it seems, regardless of genre or type (TV/Film) #scriptchat
7:23 pm LisaFromNYC: @DreamsGrafter I see mulit-pro as ensemble if one theme/mess encompasses. Like a square is a rectangle, just a specific type #scriptchat
7:23 pm lizziside: In a sort of way ens. films give more leeway letting an audience pick their own hero with no manipulation by writer/director #scriptchat
7:23 pm Veramark2010: @Bang2write True - it's easier to identify w damsel in distress than w Nashville ;°) #scriptchat
7:23 pm davidpbaker: Shout for #scriptchat that is going on at the moment
7:23 pm lupiilu: >>> rather, they all knew each other in a straight line, from person to person, more realistic, not what I'm doing at all. lol #scriptchat
7:24 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter yes I frequently see 15 or more in ensembles. No hard and fast rules, but 6-8 seems the "norm" #scriptchat
7:24 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat I think some screenwriters think they are writing an ensemble script, when in fact the script is just unfocussed, without plot
7:24 pm Jonathan_Peace: @DreamsGrafter but surely if there aren't many characters it can't be described as an ensemble piece? #scriptchat
7:24 pm DreamsGrafter: Can any help with Pulp Fiction? An ensemble cast, just structured differently? (@LisaFromNYC) #scriptchat
7:24 pm booksbelow: In show like Seinfeld, who is the umbrella character changes in different episodes, I think most often it's George. #scriptchat
7:25 pm filmutopia: @DreamsGrafter Multi-protagonist... but don't try to unpick Tarantino, he's not a write who unpicks #scriptchat
7:25 pm Bang2write: @filmutopia I 100% agree with you - it's not a "get out of jail free" card... In fact, I think ensemble casts V hard to pull of #scriptchat
7:25 pm twatterer: @booksbelow Big Chill defo an ensemble. :) Umbrella character could be Kline's wife who seems to be the matriarch? #scriptchat
7:26 pm DreamsGrafter: @Jonathan_Peace I think too many is the issue. Check out @Bang2Write's tweet two down from yr last 1 to me. 15 in an ensemble. #scriptchat
7:26 pm DreamsGrafter: @davidpbaker Thanks David! ... xo #scriptchat
7:27 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter I think it's got dual protags - w/ Vega/Butch in the front. Samuel L Jackson got Oscar for best supporting actor #scriptchat
7:27 pm twatterer: @DreamsGrafter Pulp Fiction multi-protg methinks. Until Travolta gets blown away leaving it to the other dude #scriptchat
7:27 pm dizzydentfilms: I think only Reservoir Dogs and Kill Bill had no protag in QT's repertoire. And Clooney's character in From Dusk. #scriptchat
7:27 pm Jonathan_Peace: @DreamsGrafter gotcha! Cheers #scriptchat
7:28 pm DreamsGrafter: Agree w/ that. RT @booksbelow: I think Big Chill is true ensemble, Traffic is multi-protagonist #scriptchat
7:28 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter @Jonathan_Peace -- yes, TOO MANY is the issue. 15 is too many. 6-8 seems the *norm* #scriptchat
7:28 pm LisaFromNYC: PF message "good guys prevail". Look at SLJ & JT. SLJ changes, look at outcome vs JT. Same for Bruce. #scriptchat
7:28 pm dizzydentfilms: Pulp Fiction protag, really is Willis' character because he sets the whole thing in motion. If he hadn't won fight, no movie. #scriptchat
7:28 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat It seems to me that ensemble and multi-protagonist scripts are often created by directors who write, rather than writers
7:28 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write I agree with you, He's Just Not... seemed plotless, had theme, it was like writers were trying to knock sense >>> #scriptchat
7:28 pm Bang2write: @filmutopia yes, agreed. I love the ensemble but atm I'm going traditional all the way #scriptchat
7:28 pm twatterer: @dizzydentfilms Reservoir Dogs still had focus on the undercover cop #scriptchat
7:28 pm DreamsGrafter: @LisaFromNYC RT @twatterer: Pulp Fiction multi-protg methinks. Until Travolta gets blown away leaving it to the other dude #scriptchat
7:29 pm LisaFromNYC: So bottom line it's more about chars sharing goals which make it ensemble? #scriptchat
7:29 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write into heads of sad, single women, good message, but bad delivery. #scriptchat
7:29 pm cineandreea: RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat It seems to me that ensemble and multi-protagonist scripts are often created by directors who write, rather than writers
7:29 pm Jonathan_Peace: @Bang2write Fully agree. it just becomes confusing then for everyone: writer, reader, audience. #scriptchat
7:29 pm DreamsGrafter: I want to take this opportunity to thank @Bang2Write for suggesting this topic. Thanks Lucy! #scriptchat
7:30 pm Veramark2010: Saw Crash 2day; seemed like puzzle where each char is a piece & big picture is revealed in the end. That seemed an "ensbl" piece #scriptchat
7:30 pm Bang2write: @Jonathan_Peace I read a script once with 73 "important" characters in... I kid. ye. not. (this was something like 2001?) #scriptchat
7:30 pm dizzydentfilms: RT @dizzydentfilms: Crrection: I thnk only Reervoir Dgs & Kill Bill hd 1 protag in QT's rpertoire. & Clooney's char in Frm Dusk. #scriptchat
7:30 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter you're very welcome! xxx #scriptchat
7:31 pm DreamsGrafter: Blog post on Advanced Characterisation: http://bit.ly/9BcSCc #scriptchat (via @Bang2Write)
7:31 pm ticklepickleme: RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat It seems to me that ensemble and multi-protagonist scripts are often created by directors who write, rather than writers
7:31 pm Jonathan_Peace: @Bang2write GOOD GOD! Let me guess... a pass? #scriptchat
7:31 pm LisaFromNYC: Gr8 topic RT @DreamsGrafter I want to take this opportunity to thank @Bang2Write for suggesting this topic. Thanks Lucy! #scriptchat
7:31 pm Bang2write: @DreamsGrafter I am going to have to duck out tho, I can hear The Wee Girl kicking off!! I need to back up the cavalry : ( #scriptchat
7:32 pm DreamsGrafter: @LisaFromNYC RT @Bang2write I think it's got dual protags w/ Vega/Butch in the front. Jackson got Oscar 4 best supporting actor #scriptchat
7:33 pm Bang2write: @Jonathan_Peace it was 245 pages long, too! LOL. Still doesn't beat my record -- 321!!! #scriptchat
7:33 pm Veramark2010: Ensbl films "risky" bc it is more difficult for audience to identify w anyone in particular? #scriptchat
7:33 pm LisaFromNYC: Q: is "snatch" ensemble or multi? (trying to get the hang of this still :/) #scriptchat
7:33 pm DreamsGrafter: @Bang2write Thanks so much for juggling #scriptchat with your Sunday night. Really really appreciate it! xo Hope Wee Girl's ok.
7:34 pm KarenSperling: Some ensemble movies seem less like experiments and more like the results of not knowing script basics #scriptchat
7:34 pm DreamsGrafter: @VeraMark2010 Apparently, there needs to be one character in that ensemble that edges out more than the rest. #scriptchat
7:34 pm thewritertype: #scriptchat Not sure about these definitions, but I have to go and cook a steak. Adidas, amigos. As we sportsmen say.
7:34 pm Bang2write: Thanks everyone, great #scriptchat -- if any1 has any #redplanetreads for me, get in touch!!
7:35 pm lupiilu: @Bang2write 321 what on earth could they have had to say that took that long! lol #scriptchat
7:35 pm Jonathan_Peace: @Bang2write that makes me feel so much better about my 118 pager LOL #scriptchat
7:35 pm DreamsGrafter: @VeraMark2010 i.e. The little girl in Little Miss Sunshine or Glenn Close's character in The Big Chill. #scriptchat
7:35 pm lizziside: or can pick their own in more freedom? RT @Veramark2010: Ensbl films "risky" difficult for aud. to identify w anyone ..? #scriptchat
7:35 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Bang2write: Thanks everyone, great #scriptchat -- if any1 has any #redplanetreads for me, get in touch!!
7:36 pm Veramark2010: Good point RT @lizziside or can pick their own in more freedom? RT @Veramark2010: ... difficult for aud. to identify w anyone ? #scriptchat
7:36 pm twatterer: @LisaFromNYC ensemble is group within same story w/different goals ideally connected by theme ... tbc #scriptchat
7:37 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat I think Little Miss Sunshine is a great example of an ensemble movie. The entire family is the protagonist. Perfect movie.
7:37 pm twatterer: @LisaFromNYC and multi is two or more sharing same goal/objective #scriptchat
7:38 pm lupiilu: OMG Adam Garcia is on Top Gear! lol #scriptchat
7:38 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @twatterer: @LisaFromNYC ensemble is group within same story w/different goals ideally connected by theme ... tbc #scriptchat
7:38 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @twatterer: @LisaFromNYC and multi is two or more sharing same goal/objective #scriptchat
7:38 pm KarenSperling: @DreamsGrafter I didn't think Little Miss Sunshine is an ensemble script. I think the girl is clearly the protag. #scriptchat
7:38 pm Veramark2010: @DreamsGrafter re identification: locksmith father in Crash (like @LisaFromNYC I'm still not sure about multi-proagt vs. ensbl) #scriptchat
7:38 pm Jonathan_Peace: @lupiilu Who's Adam Garcia? #scriptchat
7:38 pm DreamsGrafter: @filmutopia Agree re Little Miss Sunshine. We have it on our Script Night list. :) #scriptchat
7:39 pm rabbitandcrow: @Bang2write Think a good argument could be made for Samuel L. being Pulp Fiction protag. He's the character who changes most. #scriptchat
7:39 pm filmutopia: @Alonsomex Yes, my point precisely. Love actually is a good example #scriptchat
7:39 pm dizzydentfilms: @filmutopia The father is the protagonist. #scriptchat
7:39 pm LisaFromNYC: I never saw Little Miss sunshine *blushes*. Need to watch #scriptchat
7:39 pm KarenSperling: @filmutopia Actually, all the family members are different sides of the concept of trying, like in Tootsie...#scriptchat
7:40 pm Veramark2010: ... @twatterer 's explanation (works for me) leads me to think Crash is ensbl, @Bang2write 's makes me think it's multi-protag #scriptchat
7:40 pm KarenSperling: @filmutopia all different sides of relationships, in my opinion. #scriptchat
7:40 pm DreamsGrafter: @KarenSperling RT @twatterer: ensemble is group within same story w/different goals ideally connected by theme ... tbc #scriptchat
7:40 pm Jonathan_Peace: I saw Little Miss Sunshine and cried. Proper man tears, mind. Such a great movie. #scriptchat
7:41 pm lupiilu: @Jonathan_Peace oops meant Andy Garcia. lol, Adam Garcia is the guy from Coyote Ugly! I regret watching that last night!!! #scriptchat
7:41 pm LisaFromNYC: thanx RT @twatterer ...and multi is two or more sharing same goal/objective #scriptchat
7:41 pm filmutopia: @dizzydentfilms I disagree, simply because all the characters move on in the end, as a unit, after each completes their journey #scriptchat
7:41 pm DreamsGrafter: @KarenSperling Apparently in an ensemble piece, it's important to have an umbrella charac. Check this out: http://bit.ly/9BcSCc #scriptchat
7:41 pm Michael_Flores: @rabbitandcrow @Bang2write I always looked at Bruce Willis as the Protag...He connects the storylines together. #scriptchat
7:42 pm dizzydentfilms: @Jonathan_Peace It's a comedy. yikes. #scriptchat
7:42 pm KarenSperling: @DreamsGrafter but they don't have different goals in Little Miss Sunshine, they all go on the trip to the contest. #scriptchat
7:42 pm lupiilu: @LisaFromNYC i've never seen LMSS either, keep meaning to, I hear it's really good. #scriptchat
7:42 pm LisaFromNYC: @Veramark2010 I need to digest this comparison #scriptchat
7:43 pm Jonathan_Peace: @dizzydentfilms cried with laughter. the stage scene at the end. laughed my ass off #scriptchat
7:43 pm dizzydentfilms: @Michael_Flores Right. If he hadn't won the fight, there would be no movie. #scriptchat
7:43 pm DreamsGrafter: @lupiilu I love Coyote Ugly ... haha. #scriptchat
7:43 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat - to me a movie like LMSunshine is very traditional in structure, in comparison with say Crash, where it's so very complex
7:44 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat Am I missing Top Gear? Drat!
7:44 pm rabbitandcrow: I think Pulp Fiction is not an ensemble piece as much as a series of stories each with it's own protagonist. #scriptchat
7:44 pm lupiilu: @DreamsGrafter oh no I hate it, some of the dialogue I have to mute the tv to get through it! I watch it cause I have good >>> #scriptchat
7:44 pm Veramark2010: @filmutopia Top Gear? You've just dropped several notches on my esteem ladder, Clive... ;°) #scriptchat
7:44 pm DreamsGrafter: @KarenSperling Doesn't the bro want to be a pilot? The dad want to sell a book? for example. And by the end, they all fail? #scriptchat
7:45 pm KarenSperling: I would define an ensemble movie as one where there is no clear protagonist. #scriptchat
7:45 pm DreamsGrafter: @KarenSperling The family members just go along for the journey bc they have to but they have their own stuff going on too. #scriptchat
7:45 pm KarenSperling: @DreamsGrafter no, they don't do anything about those things, their goal is to get the girl to the competition. #scriptchat
7:45 pm twatterer: @KarenSperling in LMS the family has separate goals - the journey to the show is about them all dealing with individual issues #scriptchat
7:45 pm lupiilu: @DreamsGrafter >>> memories of watching it with my best friend when it first came out, it annoys me, I'm a masochist!!! lol #scriptchat
7:45 pm lizziside: Yes, & that's what gives the movie a "up" end RT @dizzydentfilms: @Michael_Flores Right. If he hadnt won the fight... #scriptchat
7:46 pm DreamsGrafter: Like Short Cuts? RT @KarenSperling: I would define an ensemble movie as one where there is no clear protagonist. #scriptchat
7:46 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat - I also think Magnolia is a good example of a multi-protagonist movie. Wonderful stories.
7:46 pm booksbelow: I think multi-protagonist & ensemble are almost mutually exclusive things from what gathering here, although they can overlap. #scriptchat
7:46 pm rabbitandcrow: Whereas Reservoir Dogs is a genuine ensemble piece. #scriptchat
7:46 pm KarenSperling: @twatterer they don't have different goals, they talk about different things, but they're all on the trip to the competition. #scriptchat
7:47 pm LisaFromNYC: me too 4 same reason lol RT @VeraMark2010 @lupiilu @LisaFromNYC I've steered clear of LMSS simply bc of the title #scriptchat
7:47 pm MoriahJovan: @rabbitandcrow I agree totally. #scriptchat
7:47 pm dizzydentfilms: @filmutopia Kinner's character carries the main thematic point of the story. #scriptchat
7:47 pm lupiilu: @filmutopia on BBC2 hun #scriptchat
7:47 pm DreamsGrafter: Such a great set up! RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat Magnolia is a good example of a multi-protagonist movie. Wonderful stories.
7:47 pm UrbanLiterature: What about the film "To Live and Die in LA?" First movie I saw when the lead actor get's (spolier alert) killed... #scriptchat
7:47 pm lizziside: the hidden cop makes me doubt that, thou RT @rabbitandcrow: Whereas Reservoir Dogs is a genuine ensemble piece. #scriptchat
7:47 pm lupiilu: @Veramark2010 Top Gear's brilliant lol, you don't know what you're missing. #scriptchat
7:47 pm KarenSperling: the action and dialog in Little Miss Sunshine centers on the main plot, getting the girl to the competition, in my opinion #scriptchat
7:48 pm dizzydentfilms: @filmutopia The father character is definitely the one in the most jeopardy. #scriptchat
7:48 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat I don't think the labels are important, but the story-telling is very different between ensemble and multi-protag
7:48 pm rabbitandcrow: I don't really believe there's such a thing as "multiple protagonists". But that's probably just me being contrary. #scriptchat
7:48 pm twatterer: @KarenSperling they all have separate issues that they need to resolve to become better people & they do that together #scriptchat
7:48 pm LisaFromNYC: How about "soapdish"... ens or multi? #scriptchat
7:48 pm Veramark2010: @lupiilu Believe me, I do know and am enjoying missing it... #scriptchat
7:48 pm booksbelow: @LisaFromNYC See LMSS, you'll laugh, you'll cry, great script and acting. :-) #scriptchat
7:48 pm dennajones: #scriptchat The Daytrippers is a good ensemble movie, yes?
7:49 pm DreamsGrafter: @LisaFromNYC @VeraMark2010 @lupiilu There's a dark thread to the movie but yet it's so uplifting as a result. A clever script. #scriptchat
7:49 pm KarenSperling: @twatterer all the characters are different sides of the main theme, which is, trying #scriptchat
7:50 pm twatterer: @KarenSperling the road trip to the comp is a collective goal/excuse that allows them each the space to find themselves #scriptchat
7:50 pm lizziside: Elaborate, please RT @filmutopia: the story-telling is very different between ensemble and multi-protag #scriptchat
7:50 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat I don't think the labels are important, but the story-telling is very different between ensemble and multi-protag
7:50 pm Veramark2010: @DreamsGrafter Aye aye. Library list: must - check - out - LMS. :°) #scriptchat
7:50 pm KarenSperling: the theme is, you aren't a loser if you are trying, and the girl chooses at the end to try. the father dies trying #scriptchat
7:50 pm ozzywood: Let the music inspire you. http://bit.ly/bqx1I1 #screenwriting #scriptchat BEST OF THE WEB: http://bit.ly/c24mez
7:50 pm Veramark2010: @KarenSperling That wd fit in w my idea that ensbl film can be held together by theme. #scriptchat
7:50 pm KarenSperling: the brother's attempted suicide in the beginning was someone who stops trying, i.e., gives up #scriptchat
7:51 pm rabbitandcrow: Ensemble Piece: Story in which multiple characters simultaneously deal with the same external conflict as the protagonist. #scriptchat
7:51 pm Jonathan_Peace: @lupiilu We'll get LMSS out next week XX #scriptchat
7:51 pm dizzydentfilms: Toy Story 3 is LMS. Dysfunctional family on a mission. Woody is the protag and father figure to all, especially Andy. #scriptchat
7:51 pm filmutopia: @lizziside #scriptchat In LMSunshien you have a group of people traveling 1 story - rather than many intersecting stories in Magnolia
7:51 pm DreamsGrafter: @KarenSperling Please don't give out spoilers ... some tweeps haven't seen Little Miss Sunshine. #scriptchat
7:52 pm KarenSperling: @filmutopia yes, that's the thing, I think an ensemble movie has multiple protagonists, like I said earlier, more than 1 #scriptchat
7:52 pm Veramark2010: RT @filmutopia @lizziside In LMS u have a group of people traveling 1 story - rather than many intersecting stories in Magnolia #scriptchat
7:52 pm lupiilu: @Jonathan_Peace good idea. XX #scriptchat
7:52 pm twatterer: @KarenSperling each has different personal issues to resolve connected by similar theme under one story = ensemble #scriptchat
7:52 pm KarenSperling: @DreamsGrafter it's a scriptchat isn't it haha #scriptchat
7:53 pm lupiilu: @DreamsGrafter thanks hun, saved me from having to ask for no spoilers. lol #scriptchat
7:53 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat I have to duck out... someone think of an excuse for me that sounds reasonable! LOL
7:53 pm MoriahJovan: @rabbitandcrow Pulp Fiction==short story collection versus saga. #scriptchat (IOW, I agree again.)
7:53 pm DreamsGrafter: Little Miss Sunshine wins SAG Awards for Best Ensemble: http://bit.ly/78dY7v #scriptchat (@KarenSperling @twatterer)
7:53 pm dizzydentfilms: @filmutopia Richard, mre thn any1 else, expriencs ovr & ovr agn, the harshst point of the reality of his utterly screwed up life #scriptchat
7:53 pm lizziside: RT @filmutopia:In LMSunshien you have a group of people traveling 1 story - rather than many intersecting stories in Magnolia #scriptchat
7:53 pm lupiilu: @filmutopia Cars on fire! #scriptchat
7:53 pm booksbelow: @filmutopia Wii Golf! #scriptchat
7:54 pm filmutopia: @booksbelow that'll do - sorry folks I've been called away to my Wii golf game #scriptchat
7:54 pm DreamsGrafter: @filmutopia The kettle has boiled. ;) Thanks for raising multi-protagonist issue. Have a great night! #scriptchat
7:55 pm lupiilu: forget mine, what he said. lol. RT booksbelow @filmutopia Wii Golf! #scriptchat
7:55 pm Veramark2010: Thanks all - was great to be part of this again, I missed it! #scriptchat
7:55 pm Jonathan_Peace: @filmutopia seems i had the beer! LOL uptopia... sounds like a battlecry! #scriptchat
7:55 pm LisaFromNYC: just put LMSS on top of my netflix queue :) #scriptchat
7:55 pm lizziside: @dizzydentfilms: @filmutopia I haven't seen LMS, so both ur POVs will be assessed later ;-) #scriptchat
7:56 pm DreamsGrafter: @KarenSperling I know ... but I just noticed quite a few peeps were planning to watch Little Miss Sunshine. Hope that's ok. xo #scriptchat
7:56 pm filmutopia: #scriptchat Night all.... FORE!
7:56 pm KarenSperling: @DreamsGrafter haha thanks for finding that! I still say it's a script with a clear proganist :-D #scriptchat
7:56 pm DreamsGrafter: @chained Haha, you have everything! ;) #scriptchat
7:56 pm Veramark2010: That should have been "I have missed" it. Dz dz. #scriptchat
7:57 pm KarenSperling: @DreamsGrafter I'll know for the future! #scriptchat
7:57 pm DreamsGrafter: @KarenSperling The little girl is definitely the glue that binds the characters together. #scriptchat
7:57 pm booksbelow: @chained Would not suggest under 11 females watch LMSS, are you talking about the same film? More like Royal Tenenbaums! #scriptchat
7:57 pm Jonathan_Peace: Noticed a few innocent casualties from my cull last week. Apologies for the unintentional unfollow. Will draw you back. X #scriptchat
7:58 pm KarenSperling: @DreamsGrafter I feel pretty cool, even disagreeing with SAG! haha! :-D #scriptchat
7:58 pm OklahomaWard: RT @3amfright Supportive characters have a role/2 help move your character/story along w/out directly telling you the plot. #scriptchat
7:58 pm rabbitandcrow: @MoriahJovan Yes. That the Pulp Fiction stories are interwoven is just a style choice, not essential to the storytelling at all. #scriptchat
7:58 pm DreamsGrafter: @chained Sorry that was meant to say you hate everything. ;) #scriptchat #justkidding
7:59 pm NikkiD66: RT @booksbelow: I think #scriptchat carries an understood spoiler warning, we're discussing scripts! #scriptchat
7:59 pm LisaFromNYC: besides BigC & LMSS, can tweeps suggest true ens pieces (not multi) #scriptchat
8:00 pm OklahomaWard: RT @filmutopia #scriptchat I don't think the labels are important, but the story-telling is very different between ensemble and multi-protag
8:00 pm dizzydentfilms: @DreamsGrafter Olive has no arc. She functions as the mentor. #scriptchat
8:00 pm booksbelow: @LisaFromNYC Royal Tenenbaums #scriptchat
8:01 pm Jonathan_Peace: @LisaFromNYC old golden Hollywood B-movies such as Earthquake, Towering Inferno, Posiedon Adventure are true ensembles #scriptchat
8:01 pm LisaFromNYC: I'll rewatch. It's been a long time RT @booksbelow @LisaFromNYC Royal Tenenbaums #scriptchat
8:02 pm LisaFromNYC: @Jonathan_Peace Yes. I remember those. Gotcha! Cobwebs are slowly clearing. #scriptchat
8:03 pm twatterer: @Jonathan_Peace disaster movies tend to be multis as they are all driven by same goal to survive plus secondary personal goal #scriptchat
8:03 pm KarenSperling: @Jonathan_Peace excellent point, and if I remember correctly, aren't there separate stories shown about each character? #scriptchat
8:03 pm DreamsGrafter: Wow, that was a great #scriptchat. Thanks everyone for joining in! The discussion continues at 8pm EDT/5pm PDT which is 1am BST.
8:03 pm booksbelow: @Jonathan_Peace Yes, I guess most disaster films are ensemble. Wasn't thinking about them. #scriptchat
8:04 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @twatterer: @Jonathan_Peace disaster movies tend to be multis as they are all driven by same goal to survive plus secondary personal goal #scriptchat
8:04 pm dizzydentfilms: LMS: a story with 3 transforming Protagonists and 1 goal Protagonist. #scriptchat
8:04 pm chained: @DreamsGrafter Your right I do hate lots of crap films & I'm not afraid to say so unlike most who use #scriptchat but I love good films
8:05 pm KarenSperling: @DreamsGrafter Thanks for hosting! #scriptchat
8:05 pm LisaFromNYC: @DreamsGrafter I think I need to go to the 8pm one too. My entire notion of multi being a type of ens has been shattered! #scriptchat
8:06 pm lupiilu: @chained but of course you recognise that yours is not the only opinion #scriptchat
8:06 pm DreamsGrafter: @LisaFromNYC I look forward to reading the US transcript. It'll be interesting to see what ppl think in that discussion. #scriptchat
8:06 pm Jonathan_Peace: @twatterer that's how I define an ensemble anyway. A gathering of characters (multi) with one joint goal rather than individual #scriptchat
8:07 pm DreamsGrafter: @KarenSperling Thanks for taking part. Always great to see you on here. :) #scriptchat
8:07 pm lizziside: This was great and learned a lot. Thanks to all of you for this ensemble session #scriptchat
8:08 pm authorViviAnna: so would the latest disaster film 2012 be an emsemble? As well as The Day After Tomorrow? #scriptchat how about Independence Day?
8:08 pm booksbelow: Thanks everyone, and especially @DreamsGrafter for hosting. Always learn a lot. #scriptchat
8:09 pm DreamsGrafter: @lizziside So true: this was a great one. Have a great start to your week Liz! xo #scriptchat
8:09 pm LisaFromNYC: @DreamsGrafter Gr8 session. Thanks. #scriptchat
8:09 pm MoriahJovan: @rabbitandcrow I'm a Tarantino fan because of that device. #scriptchat
8:09 pm Jonathan_Peace: BTW everyone... The Damned United is on BBC2.... my brother wrote the book it's based on.... (just saying) #scriptchat
8:10 pm DreamsGrafter: @booksbelow Thank you! So great to have you back. Hope you had a great time away. Loved the Mickey pic by the way. :) xo #scriptchat
8:10 pm twatterer: @authorViviAnna they are multi protag films as they share the same goal (survival) #scriptchat
8:10 pm DreamsGrafter: @LisaFromNYC Thanks Lisa and have a great one later. xo #scriptchat
8:10 pm DreamsGrafter: RT @Jonathan_Peace: BTW everyone... The Damned United is on BBC2.... my brother wrote the book it's based on.... (just saying) #scriptchat
8:10 pm BernardoVillela: RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat I think Little Miss Sunshine is a great example of an ensemble movie. The entire family is the protagonist. Perfect movie.
8:11 pm DreamsGrafter: @Jonathan_Peace Wow, that's imprpessive. #scriptchat
8:11 pm booksbelow: @DreamsGrafter It was the only way I could get my daughter (14) to wear it, then she wouldn't take it off! Had great time! :-) #scriptchat
8:12 pm twatterer: @DreamsGrafter thanks for being great, hon. x #scriptchat
8:12 pm Jonathan_Peace: @DreamsGrafter what was better was I was a projectionist when it came out and made the film up, splicing it together. LOL #scriptchat
8:12 pm DreamsGrafter: @twatterer Thanks mr with helping with the definitions and chat. Have a cool start to the week! xo #scriptchat
8:12 pm DreamsGrafter: @booksbelow Haha, brilliant! #scriptchat
8:13 pm lupiilu: @DreamsGrafter brilliant job Mina as always. :D #scriptchat
8:13 pm Jonathan_Peace: @DreamsGrafter Thanks for a great chat Mina XX #scriptchat
8:14 pm lupiilu: and @Bang2write for suggesting the topic, very timely for me and gave me something to think about. #scriptchat
8:15 pm twatterer: @Jonathan_Peace well done, brother of yours! Great stuff. :) #scriptchat
8:15 pm lizziside: You too hun - xo RT @DreamsGrafter: @lizziside So true: this was a great one. Have a great start to your week Liz! xo #scriptchat
8:16 pm DreamsGrafter: Indeed! RT @lupiilu: and @Bang2write for suggesting the topic, very timely for me and gave me something to think about. #scriptchat
8:16 pm lupiilu: @twatterer yes, two very talented brothers. Personally I know which I prefer. Football is not my thing. lol #scriptchat
8:19 pm DreamsGrafter: @Jonathan_Peace I take you like Cinema Paradiso ... ;) #scriptchat
8:19 pm twatterer: @lupiilu :)) #scriptchat
8:20 pm DreamsGrafter: Have to shut down and have a late supper. Have a cool rest of the night everyone and thanks again for a great #scriptchat! xoxo
USA chat:
jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK... bring on the ENSEMBLE talk #scriptchat
booksbelow: @jeannevb Just don't mess with August's Groundhog Day, really looking forward to it! #scriptchat
jeannevb: the EURO transcript is great. You'll all want to read that later #scriptchat
scriptdreric: Really make sure that idea - and your enthusiasm 4 the idea - can sustain a whole script. (@nobull408 #scriptchat)
12:01 am jolenejahnke: Run! Don't walk. #scriptchat is starting.
12:01 am KageyNYC: @nobull408 Hey Dave, you joining for #scriptchat tonight? Awesome!
12:02 am booksbelow: Let's get some kind of def. of ensemble cast out of the way now, maybe by using examples? #scriptchat
12:02 am TheWriteScript: Hi all. #scriptchat
12:02 am yeah_write: What she said! RT @jolenejahnke: Run! Don't walk. #scriptchat is starting.
12:02 am jeannevb: Let's throw out some quest to spark ur brains....So do you all feel there's a diff'c btwn ensemble cast and multi-protagonist? #scriptchat
12:03 am zacsanford2: Crash, Breakfast Club. RT @booksbelow: Lets get some kind of def. of ensemble cast out of the way now, maybe by using examples? #scriptchat
12:03 am booksbelow: The Big Chill - ensemble Traffic - multi-protagonist #scriptchat
12:04 am jolenejahnke: @yeah_write I do love it when we all get together :) #scriptchat
12:04 am diannesalerni: Just wanted to say I wish I could #scriptchat but I have house guests tonight. Hope to see you next week!
12:04 am jmiewald: Ocean's 11, Wild Bunch #scriptchat
12:04 am yeah_write: A recent ensemble cast I watched was WOMEN IN TROUBLE, each living own lives, but coming together in the plot. #scriptchat
12:04 am scriptdreric: American Beauty? The Royal Tenenbaums? #scriptchat
12:04 am jeannevb: @diannesalerni *waves* well, make sure they do the dishes.... tell them it's an ensemble production haha #scriptchat
12:04 am yeah_write: Me too. *smooch & hug* lol RT @jolenejahnke: @yeah_write I do love it when we all get together :) #scriptchat
12:05 am GermaineJames: @zacsanford oh right! Finally one with that Sunday class. What's that app to follow the #scriptchat?
12:05 am MJ_Slide: #scriptchat lurking again cause brain is too fried to contribute tonight. I'll sit back & enjoy the free screenwriting forum of awesomeness!
12:05 am LisaFromNYC: Saving private ryan??? #scriptchat
12:05 am nate_winslow: Hey #scriptchat! I'd throw in LA Confidential too. #scriptchat
12:05 am SKCOMEDY: It can also be multiple points of view--PULP FICTION @booksbelow The Big Chill - ensemble Traffic - multi-protagonist #scriptchat
12:05 am jeannevb: Is @zacsanford in the house yet? #scriptchat
12:06 am Chuklz: Tom Hanks definately stars and leads that movie. RT @LisaFromNYC: Saving private ryan??? #scriptchat
12:06 am zacsanford2: @GermaineJames Use http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat - best way to follow the chat. #scriptchat
12:06 am jtabergas: Great examples! I'm understanding the difference. #scriptchat
12:06 am GermaineJames: RT @jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK... bring on the ENSEMBLE talk #scriptchat
12:06 am zacsanford2: @jeannevb I'm here... you must have missed my first few tweets. Good thing for the Trasncript. #scriptchat
12:06 am scriptdreric: @LisaFromNYC Saving Private Ryan seems like a multi-protagonist. Are we talking those too? #scriptchat
12:06 am thatgalkiki: Two of my fav's. Alan Ball Wes Anderson are both amazing. @scriptdreric American Beauty? The Royal Tenenbaums? #scriptchat
12:07 am GCGeek: Good evening! Time for scriptchat so please ignore the tweets if scriptwriting and particularly ensemble cast ain't your thang. #scriptchat
12:07 am jeannevb: @zacsanford2 and I'm not even drunk yet! phew ;) #scriptchat
12:07 am jeannevb: can talk both RT @scriptdreric: @LisaFromNYC Saving Private Ryan seems like a multi-protagonist. Are we talking those too? #scriptchat
12:07 am LisaFromNYC: @Chuklz what about Band of brothers. #scriptchat
12:07 am yeah_write: Bad movie, but Valentine's Day. Or Airport. #scriptchat
12:07 am jeannevb: I agree RT @SKCOMEDY: Not sure Id include American Beauty--thats definitely Spaceys story. #scriptchat
12:07 am zacsanford2: @jeannevb I'm a little under the influence at the moment. I'll try to make my tweets informative and on-topic. #scriptchat
12:08 am jeannevb: I LOVE Band of Bros RT @LisaFromNYC: @Chuklz what about Band of brothers. #scriptchat
12:08 am zacsanford2: RT @SnarkTheReader: I read a spec script with 30+ characters. There were 15 main characters. Please dont do that. #scriptchat
12:08 am LisaFromNYC: @scriptdreric we're prob going to discuss both since I'm all over the place. lol #scriptchat
12:08 am derek_stewart: @jeannevb An ensemble script can can support the story of a single protagonist. Jackie Brown, for example. #scriptchat
12:08 am by_dmichele: Thin Red Line #scriptchat
12:08 am Chuklz: Band of Brothers is closer but the lead character was the Red Headed guy. RT @LisaFromNYC: @Chuklz what about Band of brothers. #scriptchat
12:08 am Slickriptide: See, I would say that Love, Actually is NOT an ensemble. It's an anthology that interleaves its stories. #scriptchat @Chuklz
12:08 am jeannevb: @zacsanford2 I wont handcuff you if you get out of control ha #scriptchat
12:08 am booksbelow: In eurochat they mentioned most disaster movies are ensemble #scriptchat
12:08 am LisaFromNYC: @jeannevb me too. Band of bros is so compelling #scriptchat
12:09 am yeah_write: He might like that though. RT @jeannevb: @zacsanford2 I wont handcuff you if you get out of control ha #scriptchat
12:09 am KageyNYC: @John_Estrada Thanks! Do you write as well as direct? If so, join us for #scriptchat - it's on now & every Sun at 8pm http://bit.ly/185tzs
12:09 am sdarancette: Somebody already mentioned THE BIG CHILL as a good example. Another from that era is DINER. #scriptchat
12:09 am zacsanford2: Same w/Crash. RT @Slickriptide: Love, Actually is NOT an ensemble. Its an anthology that interleaves its stories. #scriptchat #scriptchat
12:09 am GinySassenach: What is the topic? Hello @jeannevb @zacsanford #scriptchat
12:09 am jeannevb: that old 1 w Shelly Winters... INFERNO? RT @booksbelow: In eurochat they mentioned most disaster movies are ensemble #scriptchat
12:09 am yeah_write: What are the difficulties in writing an ensemble cast? #scriptchat
12:09 am scriptdreric: Respectfully Disagree. :) We cut 2 Wes Bentley's world for a long time...and it's barely related to Spacey. @SKCOMEDY @jeannevb #scriptchat
12:09 am KatherineCahoon: American Graffiti is a classic ensemble movie. #Scriptchat
12:10 am jeannevb: @yeah_write handcuffs yes, happy ending no haha @zacsanford2 #scriptchat
12:10 am sdarancette: And I dunno if anyone mentioned the upcoming EXPENDABLES, but that's a mega ensemble with stunt casting #scriptchat
12:10 am GinySassenach: Congrats to @jeannevb for her script success #scriptchat
12:10 am SnarkTheReader: @Slickriptide Do you think Love Actually could be done without the vignette structure? #scriptchat
12:10 am zacsanford2: Shhh! Those are for our private #treefort emails. RT @yeah_write: He might like that though. RT @jeannevb handcuffs. #scriptchat
12:10 am SKCOMEDY: U have to screen the film as well as reading the script--big differences. RT @jeannevb Every1 looking forward 2 GROUNDHOG DAY #scriptchat
12:16 am ozzywood: I'm lurking today. Not into ensemble. #scriptchat
12:16 am GinySassenach: St Elmo'f fire....a very good choice #scriptchat
12:16 am dkbrklyn: ensemble - Return of the Secaucus 7 - Big Chill - #scriptchat
12:16 am yeah_write: Happy Monday to you. RT @ozzywood: Im lurking today. Not into ensemble. #scriptchat
12:16 am KageyNYC: SOAPDISH :) Hello, guilty pleasure! RT @jeannevb: If u wanted to study ONE ensemble movie, which would it be? #scriptchat
12:16 am eyamie: @ozzywood You make it sound so dirty! Maybe "ensemble" is French for "key party" #scriptchat
12:16 am GinySassenach: @dkbrklyn The Big Chill - one of my favorites. great ensemble cast! #scriptchat
12:16 am jeannevb: @SnarkTheReader I'm outlining one now & defining wounds, etc. Playing around with which one we want to pull up front. Fun :) #scriptchat
12:16 am slushpilehero: @jeannevb (i'm lurking in your #scriptchat )
12:17 am zacsanford2: Not my cup of tea either as a writer. RT @ozzywood: Im lurking today. Not into ensemble. #scriptchat
12:17 am thatgalkiki: And a good cast brings life to the page while preserving the writer's voice. @scriptdreric Because you can't write the cast... #scriptchat
12:17 am Slickriptide: I'd say yes. Each integral to larger story. RT @booksbelow: Would Independence Day be ensemble? #scriptchat
12:17 am jeannevb: what about Toy Story 3 :) RT @ozzywood: Im lurking today. Not into ensemble. #scriptchat
12:17 am GermaineJames: I have an ensemble script-comedy-about a band, crazy road trip that I was advised by development exec to change to one main #scriptchat
12:17 am booksbelow: Earlier, @Bang2write (I think) said there is usually an umbrella character in an ensemble cast #scriptchat
12:17 am jeannevb: OMG, u set ur alarm! :) RT @slushpilehero: @jeannevb (im lurking in your #scriptchat ) #scriptchat
12:17 am scriptdreric: Yeah, ensemble / multi-protagonist is serious stuff...not for the beginner, yet so many seem to want to write one... #scriptchat
12:17 am jmiewald: Empire Strikes Back, my favorite, - ensemble :) #scriptchat
12:17 am Chuklz: an ensemble is a group of characters that contributes to a single effect or story. #scriptchat
12:17 am ozzywood: Touche!! RT @jeannevb: what about Toy Story 3 :) RT @ozzywood: Im lurking today. Not into ensemble. #scriptchat
12:17 am jeannevb: @nate_winslow @KageyNYC excellent... just not a fish in a soapdish ;) #scriptchat
12:18 am jeannevb: @booksbelow I think i have her tweet... hold on #scriptchat
12:18 am XanxiuZ: I'm working on new script set in the 70's.. Anybody know where I can download a copy of Crooklyn? #scriptchat
12:18 am SnarkTheReader: @jeannevb Good luck! Just don't do what a previous client did... try to do too much. #scriptchat
12:18 am GermaineJames: But I sometimes feel the roadtrip works better as ensemble-like LOVE It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (RatRace not so much) #scriptchat
12:18 am jeannevb: RT Bang2write: ensemble cast is a single goal w/ umbrella character all others help/hinder; multi-protags have same goal/theme #scriptchat
12:18 am thatgalkiki: @scriptdreric Artists are dreamers. Dreamers think big. Must remember to crawl before walk. :) #scriptchat
12:18 am ozzywood: Pixar movies usually have dual protags with the others being secondary characters. I don't really see it as ensemble. #scriptchat
12:18 am slushpilehero: @jeannevb hahahaha! i just happen to be working & everyone else in my house is busy or sleeping #scriptchat
12:19 am Chuklz: Spiderman is about Peter Parker becoming Spiderman. Star Trek is about a group of characters solving space problems. #scriptchat
12:19 am jmiewald: Did someone define "ensemble" and I missed it? #scriptchat
12:19 am jeannevb: @SnarkTheReader we're taking the stance "less is more" ... or at least that's the goal ha #scriptchat
12:19 am ozzywood: What's the definition of 'ensemble' we are using today? #scriptchat
12:19 am WatsonStPics: @jeannevb Talking ensemble, I think Short Cuts was one of the best I've seen! #scriptchat
12:19 am booksbelow: RT @Bang2write: ensemble cast is a single goal w/ umbrella character all others help/hinder; multi-protags have same goal/theme #scriptchat
12:19 am jeannevb: @ozzywood sadly, I still haven't seen it ;( #scriptchat
12:19 am DoubleNW: An ensemble cast would b Awesome but I love 2c new-comers bring it n a great film #scriptchat
12:19 am nate_winslow: Give Kevin Kline enough drinks and...RT @jeannevb: @nate_winslow @KageyNYC excellent... just not a fish in a soapdish ;) #scriptchat
12:20 am GinySassenach: How about Hot Tub time machine for a great ensemble cast? #scriptchat
12:20 am Chuklz: RT @Chuklz: an ensemble is a group of characters that contributes to a single effect or story. #scriptchat
12:20 am SnarkTheReader: @jeannevb (And by too much, I mean have 6-7 separate story lines, none of which intersected or conflicted with each other.) #scriptchat
12:20 am booksbelow: @jeannevb I was looking, too, you beat me to it! #scriptchat
12:20 am ozzywood: Too much workshopping... Keen to hear how it went! RT @jeannevb: @ozzywood sadly, I still havent seen it ;( #scriptchat
12:20 am scriptdreric: RT @chuklz Spiderman is about Peter Parker becoming Spiderman. Star Trek is about a group of characters solving space problems. #scriptchat
12:20 am nobull408: @yeah_write LOL. Yeah then the script, etc has a ton of little notes too. I go back to it and think, "What does this mean?" #scriptchat
12:20 am eyamie: Re: Short Cuts. Raises an interesting point. Is ensemble anti-commercial? #scriptchat
12:20 am yeah_write: Not sure that all the characters have the same goal in the beginning, but their paths cross as the plot thickens. #scriptchat
12:20 am SnarkTheReader: @jeannevb You've got it then:)! #scriptchat
12:20 am SKCOMEDY: @GermaineJames Most ensemble specs I read are stories where decisions re focus have simply been delayed or avoided altogether. #scriptchat
12:21 am LisaFromNYC: @scriptdreric I have a multi-protagonist I want 2 write. It'll b a while. Little by little I'm crafting the interweaving part #scriptchat
12:21 am derek_stewart: @jeannevb I would say they should all evolve. If not, they should at least be the catalyst for the evolution of a another chrctr #scriptchat
12:21 am SnarkTheReader: @SKCOMEDY Ditto! #scriptchat
12:21 am nobull408: @KageyNYC Hey Kim! Yea I'm still getting the hang of this ;) #scriptchat
12:21 am bklynMF: @jeannevb I think the greatest ensemble movie is Magnolia. #scriptchat
12:21 am ozzywood: I like: "a group of characters solving problems" and/or "their paths cross as the plot thickens." #scriptchat
12:21 am yeah_write: Yes!RT @nobull408: @yeah_write LOL. Yeah then script, etc has ton little notes too. I go back to it... "What does this mean?" #scriptchat
12:21 am Chuklz: Love Actually is a group of character's stories which contribute to the effect of defining many kinds of love in the world. #scriptchat
12:21 am jeannevb: @SnarkTheReader writing it w my teen girl.... *gulp* #scriptchat
12:21 am jeannevb: RT @bklynMF: @jeannevb I think the greatest ensemble movie is Magnolia. #scriptchat
12:22 am GermaineJames: @SKCOMEDY Yes, I see that 2. I cover a lot of ensemble scripts that are not due to real choice but due to inexperience etc. #scriptchat
12:22 am nobull408: @jmiewald Hi. SOmetimes I outline, sometime I just dive head in. Outlining in such a help though. #scriptchat
12:22 am sdarancette: I kinda want to think that INGLORIOUS BASTERDS is/was a recent ensemble in theatres. #scriptchat
12:22 am LisaFromNYC: nice RT @ozzywood I like: "a group of characters solving problems" and/or "their paths cross as the plot thickens." #scriptchat
12:22 am DoubleNW: 1 of the things that would b the best 4 me is having actors I grew up watching, n my movies/I mos def am going after them #scriptchat
12:22 am jeannevb: @bklynMF awesome to see you here ;) *clicks margarita* #scriptchat
12:22 am GermaineJames: Do you think 21 grams is ensemble? or Babel? #scriptchat
12:22 am nobull408: @scriptdreric Thanks for the help! Nice advice. This is really interesting. #scriptchat
12:22 am Chuklz: So that also means that Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan are ensembles too @LisaFromNYC #scriptchat
12:22 am GinySassenach: RT @sdarancette: I kinda want to think that INGLORIOUS BASTERDS is/was a recent ensemble in theatres.> I agree #scriptchat
12:23 am SKCOMEDY: Diner was an ensemble film, as was American Graffitti #scriptchat
12:23 am jeannevb: btw, huge claps for @SKCOMEDY for making to tonight after just getting back from OZ... that's dedication :) #scriptchat
12:23 am bklynMF: And John C Reilly as Jim Curran(sp?) shows the most realistic character change in Magnolia. #scriptchat
12:23 am booksbelow: Aside from the differences in writing, are ensemble scripts more/less saleable? #scriptchat
12:23 am jmiewald: So in en ensemble flick do all characters have an arc? Their own story? #scriptchat
12:23 am zacsanford2: SPR is Hank's film. RT @Chuklz: So that also means that Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan are ensembles too @LisaFromNYC #scriptchat
12:23 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: Diner was an ensemble film, as was American Graffitti #scriptchat
12:24 am ozzywood: RT @jeannevb: btw, huge claps for @SKCOMEDY for making to tonight after just getting back from OZ... thats dedication :) #scriptchat
12:24 am zacsanford2: So who out there is brave enough and trying to write an ensemble flick at the moment? #scriptchat
12:24 am LisaFromNYC: @Chuklz not really sure about BOB. It would seem that tom hanks has a bigger role. *scratches head* #scriptchat
12:24 am GermaineJames: For me, real ensemble means every character has some effect on every character ion the ensemble at some point #scriptchat
12:24 am jeannevb: @jmiewald I think @snarkthereader answered this... I'll look to RT it #scriptchat
12:24 am eyamie: Basterds? Maybe - maybe - dual protagonist. I don't see ensemble. #scriptchat
12:24 am jmiewald: @zacsanford2 I am trying to write one #scriptchat
12:24 am nobull408: So what genre of movie is everyone tired of seeing being made? #scriptchat
12:24 am ozzywood: RT @GermaineJames: For me, real ensemble means every character has some effect on every character ion the ensemble at some point #scriptchat
12:24 am GermaineJames: There has to be wants/needs conflicts throughout the ensemble even if some of group are together on some conflicts #scriptchat
12:25 am jeannevb: @ozzywood I'm sneaking in @SKCOMEDY's suitcase the next time he goes to ur land ;) #scriptchat
12:25 am Chuklz: @zacsanford2 Could Hanks have done it alone or with nameless faceless extras? #scriptchat
12:25 am ozzywood: You've nailed it!!! RT @GermaineJames: every character has some effect on every character ion the ensemble at some point #scriptchat
12:25 am yeah_write: Yes RT @GermaineJames: For me, real ensemble means every character has an effect on every character ion the ensemble at some pnt #scriptchat
12:25 am KatherineCahoon: @zacsanford2 I'm writing one right now based on my book:) #Scriptchat
12:25 am nate_winslow: @eyamie Didn't it win "Best Ensemble" at the SAG awards? Not that thats definitive. But. #scriptchat
12:25 am SKCOMEDY: In sitcom, Modern Family is an ensemble comedy. No character is more important or drives the story more than any other. #scriptchat
12:25 am KageyNYC: @nobull408 It gets easier. There's blog too so u can rd transcript to catch stuff u miss & #scriptchat ppl r the best! http://bit.ly/185tzs
12:25 am LisaFromNYC: Isn't IB more multi? RT @sdarancette I kinda want to think that INGLORIOUS BASTERDS is/was a recent ensemble in theatres #scriptchat
12:25 am TheWriteScript: Not me (@zacsanford2). I love to watch them, but write them? Ugh. #scriptchat
12:25 am scriptdreric: Seriously though, beginners should tackle a single protag story first. Design condos before Disney Concert Hall. :) #scriptchat
12:25 am ozzywood: Brave girl... You won't know WHERE he'll lead you! RT @jeannevb: @ozzywood Im sneaking in @SKCOMEDYs suitcase #scriptchat
12:26 am SnarkTheReader: @jmiewald Main character has arc, some 2ndary characters. All need to be tied into one story. Many stories = too confusing. #scriptchat
12:26 am aaronkaiser: #scriptchat oops, I'm late! And this is my first time attending. So mch for first impressions. What's The topic at hand?
12:26 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: In sitcom, No character is more important or drives the story more than any other. #scriptchat
12:26 am jeannevb: psst @jmiewald RT @SnarkTheReader: Don't think all cast has to. But there needs to be a main character who does the most. #scriptchat
12:26 am eyamie: @nate_winslow Maybe it speaks to "a bunch of good characters played by actors of equal stature." #scriptchat
12:26 am scriptdreric: Gotta run! Great chat, guys! #scriptchat
12:26 am GermaineJames: @zacsanford2 What about an ensemble at indy budget? It's hard enough 4 indies to attach bankable names (not a list) but 2+? #scriptchat
12:26 am carmennunn: RT @SKCOMEDY: In sitcom, Modern Family is an ensemble comedy. No character is more important or drives the story more than any other. #scriptchat
12:26 am jmiewald: @SnarkTheReader 10-4 #scriptchat
12:26 am bklynMF: @jeannevb *clicks Heineken* Magnolia is all about a connected people and atonement/redemption. #scriptchat
12:26 am John_Estrada: another terrific ensemble movie is American Pie. #scriptchat
12:26 am yeah_write: For anyone new to the chat, if it's going really fast for you. We (@jeannevb) posts the transcript at www.scriptchat.com #scriptchat
12:26 am jolenejahnke: @aaronkaiser Hey Aaron, glad you made it! #scriptchat
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12:27 am sdarancette: RT @zacsanford2: who is brave enough and trying to write an ensemble flick at the moment? #scriptchat - is that a challenge or an assnment?
12:27 am jeannevb: @aaronkaiser so glad u made it... did u take ur hat off before u entered? :) Talking writing for ensemble cast #scriptchat
12:27 am nobull408: @scriptdreric Thanks for advice on a protag story first. Good call ;) #scriptchat
12:27 am carmennunn: RT @ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: In sitcom, No character is more important or drives the story more than any other. #scriptchat
12:27 am frombrain2tweet: Best ensemble for me has to go to 'Rachel Getting Married' (#ScriptChat)
12:27 am ozzywood: Juggling all those journeys is near impossible for newbies. Huge TV series experience helps: e.g. Altman, Haggis. #scriptchat
12:27 am nobull408: @KageyNYC Thank you! #scriptchat
12:28 am zacsanford2: @script_writer Those two sites are reputable to purchase from. #scriptchat
12:28 am eyamie: RT @frombrain2tweet: Best ensemble for me has to go to Rachel Getting Married (#ScriptChat) #scriptchat
12:28 am nate_winslow: @eyamie Haha that too. The sheer number of characters present in almost all of the "chapters," tho. It's a tough one. #scriptchat
12:28 am carmennunn: RT @ozzywood: Let the music inspire you. http://bit.ly/bqx1I1 #screenwriting #scriptchat BEST OF THE WEB: http://bit.ly/c24mez
12:28 am booksbelow: Many sitcoms have ensemble casts, ie Friends, Seinfeld, etc. Is it easier to write ensemble scripts for television then film? #scriptchat
12:28 am zacsanford2: @sdarancette You're one of the few here that has enough experience to pull it off. #scriptchat
12:28 am jeannevb: even 2 fast 4 me! RT @yeah_write: For any1 new to chat, if its going really fast for you. We post transcript www.scriptchat.com #scriptchat
12:28 am dkbrklyn: RT @yeah_write For anyone new to the chat > TweetChat app works pretty good, too ... #scriptchat
12:28 am yeah_write: @zacsanford2 I'd love to write one, but I have 3 going already. That would be fun to write with a partner. #scriptchat
12:28 am jeannevb: i'd guess yes bc u have more episodes to deal w RT @booksbelow: Is it easier to write ensemble scripts for television then film? #scriptchat
12:29 am zacsanford2: In the long run, more hours to cover the stories RT @booksbelow: Is it easier to write ensemble scripts for television then film #scriptchat
12:29 am aaronkaiser: RT @ozzywood: You've nailed it!!! RT @GermaineJames: every character has some effect on every character ion the ensemble at some point #scriptchat
12:29 am DoubleNW: When writing I think we all have an idea of how our main character looks... And who could play her or him #scriptchat
12:29 am Chuklz: Television is about inviting characters into your home every week. Movies are for escaping your life for a couple of hours. #scriptchat
12:29 am sdarancette: I feel current ensembles are written with casts in mind. Valentines' Day was an exec i,dea written for the cast I believe #scriptchat
12:29 am jeannevb: If any1 has articles about writing for ensemble casts, @ me & I'll link on blog www.scriptchat.com #scriptchat
12:29 am yeah_write: @sdarancette I think our #treefort King is issuing a challenge. Are you up for it? #scriptchat
12:29 am SKCOMEDY: @jeannevb Hide in the suitcase? They wouldn't even let me take my Purell hand sanitizer on board! #scriptchat
12:29 am bklynMF: So if I say Crash is ham-handed and derivative, will that cause a schism? #scriptchat
12:30 am GinySassenach: TV has Criminal Minds, Grey's AT. TV seems to have a lot of ensemble cast #scriptchat
12:30 am nate_winslow: @GermaineJames with an indie budget, smtimes a great appeal for actors is who the other actors they'll work with are. #strategy #scriptchat
12:30 am Chuklz: No because you havent proved it. RT @bklynMF: So if I say Crash is ham-handed and derivative, will that cause a schism? #scriptchat
12:30 am nate_winslow: @bklynMF Nope! I despise Crash. #scriptchat
12:30 am jeannevb: @SKCOMEDY haha well, I can flirt w airport security better than hand sanitizer can :) #scriptchat
12:30 am jmiewald: I am with you. RT @bklynMF So if I say Crash is ham-handed and derivative, will that cause a schism? #scriptchat
12:30 am eyamie: I'm not convinced that "ensemble" stories are anything more than a result of casting and auteurism. #scriptchat
12:30 am nobull408: @DoubleNW I concur. #scriptchat
12:30 am yeah_write: @sdarancette Did you see V Day? Was it any good? #scriptchat
12:30 am dawnjohnston: Hi all, mixed up my time zones! Chatting about ensembles, are we? #scriptchat
12:31 am GermaineJames: Yeah and it actually fits better for keeping interest imo RT @zacsanford2: In the long run, more hours to cover the stories #scriptchat
12:31 am jeannevb: I wasn't a fan either RT @nate_winslow: @bklynMF Nope! I despise Crash. #scriptchat
12:31 am Chuklz: It was bloody awful RT @yeah_write: @sdarancette Did you see V Day? Was it any good? #scriptchat
12:31 am booksbelow: Tell us how you really feel! RT @nate_winslow: @bklynMF Nope! I despise Crash. #scriptchat
12:31 am GCGeek: Though some may argue it centers around the evolution of Doug Neidermeyer, for me Animal House is a terrific ensemble example ;) #scriptchat
12:31 am jeannevb: yes indeedy RT @dawnjohnston: Hi all, mixed up my time zones! Chatting about ensembles, are we? #scriptchat
12:31 am ozzywood: "Bobby", anyone? RT @eyamie: Im not convinced that "ensemble" stories are anything more than a result of casting and auteurism. #scriptchat
12:31 am jmiewald: If we say ensemble is a group solving problems then Magnolia is not ensemble while Toy Story 3 definitely is. #scriptchat
12:31 am KatherineCahoon: @dawnjohnston You know it! #Scriptchat
12:31 am GinySassenach: He's not that into you , was a good ensemble cast #scriptchat
12:31 am sdarancette: RT @yeah_write: @sdarancette Did you see V Day? Was it any good? #scriptchat
12:31 am KageyNYC: I can barely keep up tonight! So MANY awesome peeps at #scriptchat!
12:32 am yeah_write: Story behind idea was interesting. RT @jeannevb: I wasnt a fan either RT @nate_winslow: @bklynMF Nope! I despise Crash. #scriptchat
12:32 am SKCOMEDY: Yes, cause U only have to keep the balance for 22 minutes. RT @booksbelow Is it easier to write ensemble scripts for television? #scriptchat
12:32 am sdarancette: RT @yeah_write: Did you see V Day? Was it any good? #scriptchat - NOPE and don't need to.
12:32 am nate_winslow: I'm too scared. RT @booksbelow: Tell us how you really feel! RT @nate_winslow: @bklynMF Nope! I despise Crash. #scriptchat
12:32 am ozzywood: RT @jmiewald: If we say ensemble is a group solving problems then Magnolia is not ensemble while Toy Story 3 definitely is. #scriptchat
12:32 am KatherineCahoon: @GinySassenach Good one. #Scriptchat
12:32 am jeannevb: as viewers, wld u rather see an ensemble movie or a single char driven one? Wld u find it harder to connect to ensemble? #scriptchat
12:32 am KageyNYC: But what I want to know is WHY would you choose to write ensemble instead of main protag plus strong secondary chars? #scriptchat
12:32 am aaronkaiser: Excellent advice! ~ RT @scriptdreric: beginners should tackle a single protag story first [before writing ensemble script] #scriptchat
12:32 am Chuklz: Many things contributing to a single result. Magnolia fits this as does TS3 RT @jmiewald: If we say ensemble is a group solving #scriptchat
12:32 am yeah_write: I heard that. RT @Chuklz: It was bloody awful RT @yeah_write: @sdarancette Did you see V Day? Was it any good? #scriptchat
12:32 am eyamie: RT @jmiewald: If we say ensemble is a group solving problems then Magnolia is not ensemble while Toy Story 3 definitely is. #scriptchat
12:33 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: Yes, cause U only have to keep the balance for 22 minutes. RT @booksbelow easier to write ensemble scripts for TV? #scriptchat
12:33 am GermaineJames: @eyamie: I think Innarritu's ensembles are deliberate #scriptchat
12:33 am GinySassenach: Sorry thought Crash was a good movie #scriptchat
12:33 am eyamie: @GermaineJames Kind of my point. Auteurs can do it. Spec writers? #scriptchat
12:33 am LisaFromNYC: @jmiewald If Toy story 3 fits, then ice age fits too, right? #scriptchat
12:33 am yeah_write: The shear torture of it. RT @KageyNYC: But what I want to know is WHY would you choose to write ensemble instead of... #scriptchat
12:33 am nobull408: @KageyNYC Good call ;) #scriptchat
12:34 am KageyNYC: Ugh, ditto. RT @jeannevb: I wasn't a fan either RT @nate_winslow: @bklynMF Nope! I despise Crash. #scriptchat
12:34 am pciervo: @nobull408 predictable, cheesey ones. cough #Charlie St. Cloud. I see the previews and I no whats coming. #scriptchat
12:34 am GermaineJames: @jmiewald Hmmm. maybe a group where the individuals are solving problems and affecting each other in process? #scriptchat
12:34 am LisaFromNYC: @GinySassenach I liked Crash also. :) #scriptchat
12:34 am Chuklz: Best part was Julia Roberts remembering Pretty Woman w/ Gary Marshall during an outtake RT @yeah_write: I heard that.RE: VDay #scriptchat
12:34 am DoubleNW: @booksbelow @jeannevb I think it's easier 2 write 4 film than tv because tv has episodes #scriptchat
12:34 am SKCOMEDY: Why all the Crash-hating? It was a fable, not gritty realism. #scriptchat
12:34 am GinySassenach: So any more than 2 characters that bring the story about is an ensemble? #scriptchat
12:34 am KatherineCahoon: @jeannevb I'd rather see whichever is executed best. #Scriptchat
12:34 am sdarancette: Maybe it's okay #scriptchat to include musicals as ensembles: CHICAGO, 9, HAIRSRPAY... what's that other one... DREAM GIRLS.
12:34 am jmiewald: @LisaFromNYC I think so. #scriptchat
12:34 am ozzywood: RT @GermaineJames: @jmiewald Hmmm. maybe a group where the individuals are solving problems and affecting each other in process? #scriptchat
12:35 am yeah_write: I love ensemble movies, when the story is well written as to how the characters cross paths. More interesting than 1 main protag #scriptchat
12:35 am sdarancette: Grrrr. I keep dropping the #scriptchat hashtags like a bad habit.
12:35 am booksbelow: I think story dictates whether a script is ensemble or main protagonist. Big Chill wouldn't have been the same as 1 protagonist #scriptchat
12:35 am LisaFromNYC: I really want 2 write a multi. I enjoy them RT @KageyNYC: But what I want to know is WHY would you choose to write ensemble inst #scriptchat
12:35 am SnarkTheReader: Hint: Make sure your ensemble character names aren't too similar. Better yet: start with different letter. Don't do Sam, Sally. #scriptchat
12:35 am GinySassenach: @SKCOMEDY Thank you, I liked Crash! #scriptchat
12:35 am jmiewald: Is Butch and Sundance, Lethal Weapon and Bonnie and Clyde ensemble because two characters are solving problems? #scriptchat
12:35 am jeannevb: WOOT! @robertamunroe doing radio interview w Miles Maker! in 25 MINUTES! http://bit.ly/dudZ3R #scriptchat
12:35 am nobull408: @Pciervo YO PAT! Yeah Charlie St Cloud looks god awful! LOL. #scriptchat
12:35 am jmiewald: *Are #scriptchat
12:35 am pciervo: @nobull408 and the line #is that why you gave up...everything. Cheesey. My anger level always gets high when i see that #scriptchat
12:36 am zacsanford2: I've written several scripts. Tried doing a 2-protag script and every note was "it feels like two separate stories." #scriptchat
12:36 am Chuklz: A single violinist is a soloist. A violinist with any number of other musicians are an ensemble. #scriptchat
12:36 am jeannevb: @KageyNYC toying w writing new 1 as ensemble simply bc of the hook #scriptchat
12:36 am GermaineJames: @eyamie Yeah, I think ensemble is a difficult sell studio or indy so not the best choice 4 spec. Maybe if incredible and genre? #scriptchat
12:36 am jeannevb: @jmiewald i see those more as dual protagonists #scriptchat
12:36 am aaronkaiser: Nope. :-p ~ RT @jeannevb: @aaronkaiser so glad u made it? did u take ur hat off before u entered? :) #scriptchat http://twitpic.com/26n5t2
12:36 am LisaFromNYC: @SnarkTheReader ...and try not to choose a chick w/ a guy's name. Ens r confusing enough 2 follow #scriptchat
12:36 am nobull408: @Pciervo "Throw the glove in" "I can't" LOL. #scriptchat
12:37 am jeannevb: ;) RT @KatherineCahoon: @jeannevb I'd rather see whichever is executed best. #Scriptchat
12:37 am WatsonStPics: @jeannevb I like ensembles, but get if 1 story is weak I dislike breaking from the other more intriguing stories. #scriptchat
12:37 am DoubleNW: @nobull408 Thank u :) #scriptchat
12:37 am jmiewald: @jeannevb 3+ makes it ensemble? #scriptchat
12:37 am bklynMF: @chuklz I just feel the"racism is bad" theme relied on stereotypes to make its point.And contrivances brought the chars together.#scriptchat
12:37 am GCGeek: IMO only if a better way to tell your story. RT @KageyNYC: But what I want to know is WHY would you choose to write ensemble...? #scriptchat
12:37 am ozzywood: RT @GermaineJames: @eyamie ensemble is a difficult sell studio or indy so not the best choice 4 spec. #scriptchat
12:37 am dawnjohnston: Thought it was different people solving similar problem differently? RT @jmiewald: ensemble is a group solving problems #scriptchat
12:37 am GermaineJames: @Eyamie I was thinking of Friday 13th as genre and ensemble low budget that worked. #scriptchat
12:37 am Chuklz: By definitiion yes, but they are their own category- Buddy Movies RT @jmiewald: Are Butch & Sundance, Lethal Weapon etc #scriptchat
12:37 am ozzywood: Was ID4 ensemble? #scriptchat
12:38 am yeah_write: @GCGeek Well there you are! #scriptchat
12:38 am SKCOMEDY: @jmiewald Duos and Trios are not ensembles. Date Night and Road to Morocco are not ensemble movies. #scriptchat
12:38 am jeannevb: or an orgy ;) RT @jmiewald: @jeannevb 3+ makes it ensemble? #scriptchat
12:38 am MJ_Slide: RT @jeannevb: WOOT! @robertamunroe doing radio interview w Miles Maker! in 25 MINUTES! http://bit.ly/dudZ3R #scriptchat
12:38 am Chuklz: @bklynMF Good argument. Whether I agree will depend on if I watch the movie or remember it any time soon ;) #scriptchat
12:38 am ozzywood: RT @dawnjohnston: different people solving similar problem differently? RT @jmiewald: ensemble is a group solving problems #scriptchat
12:39 am jmiewald: @dawnjohnston OK so by your definition guys working together like in Ocean's 11 would not be ensemble? #scriptchat
12:39 am jeannevb: @aaronkaiser i think ur hat is velcroed on :) #scriptchat
12:39 am eyamie: @GermaineJames Horror - good genre to choose for comm. ensemble but the protag in F13 is Jason, arguably #scriptchat
12:39 am aaronkaiser: I think nature of longer overall length = yes ~ RT @booksbelow: Is it easier to write ensemble scripts for television then film? #scriptchat
12:39 am sdarancette: I am currently outlining a story with two protags, #scriptchat. So I am about to enter a world of hurt.
12:39 am GCGeek: I'm a secondary supporting character tonight :) RT @yeah_write: @GCGeek Well there you are! #scriptchat
12:39 am Chuklz: @ozzywood ID4 was an ensemble. #scriptchat
12:39 am jeannevb: agree RT @WatsonStPics: @jeannevb if 1 story is weak I dislike breaking from the other more intriguing stories. #scriptchat
12:39 am nobull408: @Pciervo How's the band movie coming along? #scriptchat
12:39 am ozzywood: RT @jmiewald: @dawnjohnston OK so by your definition guys working together like in Oceans 11 would not be ensemble? #scriptchat
12:39 am eyamie: @jeannevb I thought we were keeping it PC and calling it "key party" #scriptchat
12:40 am dawnjohnston: Good point, was thinking more of the magnolia/crash type RT @jmiewald: @dawnjohnston Ocean's 11 would not be ensemble? #scriptchat
12:40 am jmiewald: The Usual Suspects? Ensemble? #scriptchat
12:40 am yeah_write: I would suggest instant viewing on Netflix, Women in Trouble. Cute, and definitely ensemble for a quickie that's not box office. #scriptchat
12:40 am jeannevb: @eyamie I wonder if writing p0rn is harder than writing ensemble ha #scriptchat
12:41 am GinySassenach: Godfather = ensemble or no? #scriptchat
12:41 am bklynMF: I think enseble tv is easier bc you have many eps to flesh out. No way Lost could be feature length with 15 or so main chars. #scriptchat
12:41 am GermaineJames: @eyamie Well when they hit F13th 5 he was for me LOL! #scriptchat
12:41 am GermaineJames: @jeannevb What about ensemble porn? #scriptchat
12:41 am yeah_write: @sdarancette Too funny, I started outlining a story last night with 2 protags too. I've never done this before. #scriptchat
12:41 am KageyNYC: Btw, those making short films, after #scriptchat, @robertamunroe will be interviewed by @milesmaker. I love 'em both! http://bit.ly/dudZ3R
12:41 am WatsonStPics: Always thought of treatment as scene by scene desc. of story. Many I see are only about 3 page overviews. Isn't that synopsis? #scriptchat
12:41 am yeah_write: If only. lol RT @GermaineJames: @jeannevb What about ensemble porn? #scriptchat
12:42 am GinySassenach: @jeannevb From what little porn I've seen....it should be easy writing LOL #scriptchat
12:42 am jeannevb: chicka chicka wow :) RT @GermaineJames: @jeannevb What about ensemble porn? #scriptchat
12:42 am jolenejahnke: @bklynMF I was just thinking about LOST. Great example. #scriptchat
12:42 am dawnjohnston: AKA orgy? RT @GermaineJames: @jeannevb What about ensemble porn? #scriptchat
12:42 am aaronkaiser: @jmiewald I would argue that Woody is the main character of Toy Story 3 and that would not be ensemble. #scriptchat
12:42 am yeah_write: Are there scripts for that shit, I mean stuff. lol RT @GermaineJames: @jeannevb What about ensemble porn? #scriptchat
12:42 am SKCOMEDY: Ensemble story is 1 in which there's no clear center of power; pecking orders are constantly shifting. . #scriptchat
12:42 am trailerfest: RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat Traditionally, an ensemble cast has meant, a project where there are either too many or too few lead actors.
12:42 am jmiewald: @GinySassenach I say "no" to Godfather. It's Michael's story and the other ppl reflect his struggle. #scriptchat
12:42 am dawnjohnston: IRT @GinySassenach: Godfather = ensemble or no? #scriptchat
12:42 am derek_stewart: @jeannevb I like stories that succesfully convey the universal. Ensembles are better equipped for that. More chrctrs=more tools. #scriptchat
12:42 am yeah_write: No that's Verbal Kent's story. RT @jmiewald: The Usual Suspects? Ensemble? #scriptchat
12:43 am jmiewald: @aaronkaiser I think that is valid. I'm not sure. #scriptchat
12:43 am nate_winslow: Yep. RT @jmiewald: @GinySassenach I say "no" to Godfather. Its Michaels story and the other ppl reflect his struggle. #scriptchat
12:43 am GermaineJames: @yeah_write Well at some POINT it has to be improv? LOL #scriptchat
12:43 am jeannevb: ha RT @MikeGackler: @jeannevb If given the choice between an orgy or an ensemble, I'd choose the orgy.... #scriptchat
12:43 am bklynMF: @ozzywood ID4 is ensemble...but is it good? Besides good action? #scriptchat
12:43 am dawnjohnston: I'd say no, thought it was Michael's story RT @GinySassenach: Godfather = ensemble or no? #scriptchat
12:43 am nobull408: Inception? Anybody see it? That had an ensamble cast? Dicaprio, Page, Levitt, Hardy, etc #scriptchat
12:43 am DoubleNW: If u had Angela Bassett Will Smith Denzel Washington Morgan Freeman n1 film that would b #Amazin #scriptchat - my ensemble
12:43 am yeah_write: LMAO RT @jeannevb: ha RT @MikeGackler: @jeannevb If given the choice between an orgy or an ensemble, Id choose the orgy.... #scriptchat
12:43 am brionykidd: GOSFORD PARK was a good one. Not sure if would attempt an ensemble - if that's what we're calling this genre. Tricky, tricky. #scriptchat
12:44 am jeannevb: @Derek_Stewart I cld easily write next script w single prot, but i think ensemble wld be richer for all char. I'm going for it #scriptchat
12:44 am KatherineCahoon: What is your favorite ensemble movie? #Scriptchat
12:44 am Evenstephen2000: 'L.A. Confidential' = an excellent ensemble. Multi-stranded plot w/3 main char. & great scene weave that funnels. A nice study. #scriptchat
12:44 am yeah_write: Hehehe RT @GermaineJames: @yeah_write Well at some POINT it has to be improv? LOL #scriptchat
12:44 am ozzywood: It was certainly successful... RT @bklynMF: @ozzywood ID4 is ensemble...but is it good? Besides good action? #scriptchat
12:44 am jeannevb: @yeah_write what would scriptchat be w/o a detour down smut alley ;) #scriptchat
12:44 am ozzywood: Tonight IMAX!! RT @nobull408: Inception? Anybody see it? That had an ensamble cast? Dicaprio, Page, Levitt, Hardy, etc #scriptchat
12:44 am aaronkaiser: I'm mixed, but lean toward ensembles ~ RT @jeannevb: as viewers, wld u rather see an ensemble movie or a single char driven one? #scriptchat
12:45 am GermaineJames: @KatherineCahoon It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World for one. #scriptchat
12:45 am jmiewald: Perhaps there is a difference between an "ensemble cast" and an "ensemble story"? #scriptchat
12:45 am jeannevb: fyi #scriptchat IS an ensemble piece full of an incredible cast of f'ed up creatives xoxo #scriptchat
12:45 am GCGeek: You hear "ensemble" overused in trailers a lot, but I think that's more for multiple-star billing and not characters #scriptchat
12:45 am ozzywood: RT @brionykidd: GOSFORD PARK was a good one. Not sure if would attempt an ensemble. Tricky, tricky. #scriptchat
12:45 am SKCOMEDY: Robert Altman did some great ensemble pieces--Gosford Park; Nashville. #scriptchat
12:45 am yeah_write: @GCGeek You are always the starring character to me! #scriptchat
12:45 am jeannevb: @aaronkaiser I do find I'm drawn to them too. I like crawling in a lot of heads, not just one main prot #scriptchat
12:45 am zacsanford2: Leo's movie really. RT @nobull408: Inception? Anybody see it? That had an ensamble cast? Dicaprio, Page, Levitt, Hardy, etc #scriptchat
12:45 am LisaFromNYC: prefer multi RT @jeannevb as viewers, wld u rather see an ensemble movie or a single char driven one? #scriptchat
12:45 am nobull408: @ozzywood Really interesting and thought provoking movie. But then again I love everything Nolan does. #scriptchat
12:45 am brionykidd: RT @jmiewald: Perhaps there is a difference between an "ensemble cast" and an "ensemble story"? #scriptchat
12:45 am yeah_write: Love Gosford Park! RT @SKCOMEDY: Robert Altman did some great ensemble pieces--Gosford Park; Nashville. #scriptchat
12:46 am zacsanford2: @nobull408 I would go into why it is only Leo's story, but I want to keep this spoiler free. :) #scriptchat
12:46 am dawnjohnston: It's had great reviews RT @nobull408: Inception? Anybody see it? That had an ensamble cast? Dicaprio, Page, Levitt, Hardy, etc #scriptchat
12:46 am frombrain2tweet: And my second favorite ensemble (maybe my first actually) goes to Synecdoche, New York. Brilliant film! That's ensemble right? #ScriptChat
12:46 am GinySassenach: @ozzywood Going to see Inception tomorrow #scriptchat
12:46 am ozzywood: He was the master. Learned it from TV? RT @SKCOMEDY: Robert Altman did some great ensemble pieces--Gosford Park; Nashville. #scriptchat
12:46 am SKCOMEDY: @Evenstephen2000 Agree re L.A. Confidential. #scriptchat
12:46 am jmiewald: @sdarancette Uh, what? Do you mean "Avengers"? #scriptchat
12:46 am SnarkTheReader: @brionykidd I too love Gosford Park. They're all in one boat, though we have 3 stories about the housekeeper, valet & cook. #scriptchat
12:46 am GermaineJames: @zacsanford2 Bless you! #scriptchat
12:46 am dawnjohnston: yes, could be RT @jmiewald: Perhaps there is a difference between an "ensemble cast" and an "ensemble story"? #scriptchat
12:47 am nobull408: @zacsanford2 True. I thought the film was great! You? #scriptchat
12:47 am sdarancette: I mean the Joss Whedon AVENGERS movie they are making will be an ensemble to watch for #scriptchat
12:47 am brionykidd: @jmiewald Agree. There are a lot of ensemble cast films that are still really about one or two characters more than the rest. #scriptchat
12:47 am zacsanford2: Agreed. Love THE PLAYER. RT @SKCOMEDY: Robert Altman did some great ensemble pieces--Gosford Park; Nashville. #scriptchat
12:47 am aaronkaiser: No, all stories take many char ~ RT @GinySassenach: So any more than 2 characters that bring the story about is an ensemble? #scriptchat
12:47 am jeannevb: @derek_stewart now I feel I've been double-dog dared to write an ensemble :) #ninjawriterwithnofear #scriptchat
12:47 am dkbrklyn: thx 4 no inception spoilers ... #scriptchat
12:47 am GermaineJames: There's a fine line between having very strong 3 dimensional supporting and real ensemble-how do you tell the difference? #scriptchat
12:48 am zacsanford2: @nobull408 Best film of the year so far. Finally surpassed my tie of Toy Story/Despicable Me. #scriptchat
12:48 am nobull408: @LisaFromNYC I concur. Nolan is a genius.His movies are all multi-layered, etc. #scriptchat
12:48 am nate_winslow: Has anyone read the screenplay for Inception by any chance? Dying to see how that reads. #scriptchat
12:48 am Evenstephen2000: @ozzywood Overall, I loved 'Inception'. I'm still taking it in, though. Would like to see it again, as I did 'Shutter Island'. #scriptchat
12:48 am ozzywood: Sensational. Not ensemble, that one. RT @zacsanford2: Agreed. Love THE PLAYER. #scriptchat
12:48 am dawnjohnston: thought this was Phillip Hoffman's story RT @frombrain2tweet: And my second favorite ensemble goes to Synecdoche, New York. #ScriptChat
12:49 am zacsanford2: @nate_winslow Nolan's scripts tend to stay on lockdown until awards season. #scriptchat
12:49 am aaronkaiser: #scriptchat in the Dramatica system, the protagonist and antagonist aren't even the main character and influence characters. >2 not ensemble
12:49 am robertcarroll: @KageyNYC Best. #scriptchat. Tweet. Ever.
12:49 am KageyNYC: @zacsanford2 I saw Despicable Me yesterday, I loved it! Inception next. IMAX, you think or no? #scriptchat
12:49 am jeannevb: loved it RT @dawnjohnston: Phillip Hoffmans story RT @frombrain2tweet: And my 2nd favorite ensemble goes to Synecdoche, New York #scriptchat
12:49 am GermaineJames: I didn't really feel Gosford Park was true ensemble. I felt it was Housekeeper/Butler with strong supports. #scriptchat
12:49 am yeah_write: @zacsanford2 I've heard wonderful things about Despicable Me #scriptchat
12:49 am ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: Ensemble story is 1 in which theres no clear center of power; pecking orders are constantly shifting. . #scriptchat
12:50 am ozzywood: Best ensemble: The Wire. #scriptchat
12:50 am nate_winslow: @SnarkTheReader @zacsanford2 Ok, thanks. Sigh. Had to ask just in case. #scriptchat
12:50 am nobull408: @KageyNYC True. Porn is very ensamle. LOL. ;) #scriptchat
12:50 am zacsanford2: @KageyNYC Inception you don't need Imax. Despicable Me may be better than Toy Story the more I think about it. (@yeah_write) #scriptchat
12:50 am jeannevb: RT @ozzywood: RT @SKCOMEDY: Ensemble story is 1 in which theres no clear center of power; pecking orders are constantly shifting #scriptchat
12:50 am jmiewald: So in films like Toy Story 3 or Ocean's 11 that can be said to have one protag what purpose in having a ton of other characters? #scriptchat
12:50 am GinySassenach: The Hurt Locker #scriptchat
12:51 am jeannevb: we're now into round 2 of the smut alley detour ha RT @nobull408: @KageyNYC True. Porn is very ensamle. LOL. ;) #scriptchat
12:51 am TheWriteScript: Even in a "true" ensemble...e.g., "Friends," some characters are less important than others, i.e., Joey v. Rachel. #scriptchat
12:51 am LisaFromNYC: @nobull408 very multi-layered. I love his movies. Saw prestige w/o knowing what it was & it blew me away. Thought provoking #scriptchat
12:51 am Ideajuice: @jeannevb Noises Off is another excellent one #scriptchat
12:51 am KageyNYC: Go porn! @robertcarroll @nobull408 #scriptchat
12:51 am DoubleNW: Awww :) @jeannevb u're so sweet!! #scriptchat
12:51 am ozzywood: Archetypes. Reflecting aspects of the protag's psyche. RT @jmiewald: what purpose in having a ton of other characters? #scriptchat
12:52 am GCGeek: Wait till 3-D comes up again. RT @jeannevb: were now into round 2 of the smut alley detour @nobull408 @KageyNYC #scriptchat
12:52 am zacsanford2: So anybody still confused on the difference between multi-char vs ensemble? @Ozzywood has the best explanation. #scriptchat
12:52 am aaronkaiser: Dooo eeeet!! ~ RT @jeannevb: @derek_stewart now I feel I've been double-dog dared to write an ensemble :) #ninjawriterwithnofear #scriptchat
12:52 am brionykidd: @ozzywood @SnarkTheReader Altman's brain works in an unusual way? He looks at the big picture & the minutiae at the same time. #scriptchat
12:52 am GermaineJames: Another prob in ensembles I cover-Can't define antag or not strong antag so conflict/relationships are muddy. #scriptchat
12:52 am GinySassenach: RT @KageyNYC: Go porn! @robertcarroll @nobull408 #scriptchat
12:52 am KageyNYC: @zacsanford2 I thought so too. During the movie, I told my 4 yo he had to hold his pee, I couldn't bare to miss any. #badmom #scriptchat
12:52 am jmiewald: @ozzywood Great answer. #scriptchat
12:53 am yeah_write: Suddenly my husband is interested in the chat. lol RT @KageyNYC: Go porn! @robertcarroll @nobull408 #scriptchat
12:53 am jeannevb: @aaronkaiser oh, I will... and am :) #scriptchat
12:53 am Evenstephen2000: @SKCOMEDY Thanks! LAC is often lost in the shuffle. The way it's laid out makes it a nice one to learn from. #scriptchat
12:53 am ozzywood: Errr... Really? What did I say? RT @zacsanford2: difference between multi-char vs ensemble? @Ozzywood has the best explanation. #scriptchat
12:53 am jeannevb: are we talking p0rn or ensemble? too many side topics ha RT @Ideajuice: @jeannevb Noises Off is another excellent one #scriptchat
12:53 am jeannevb: @GCGeek 3-D *giggle* @nobull408 @KageyNYC #scriptchat
12:53 am milesmaker: RT @jeannevb: RT @KageyNYC: those making short films, after #scriptchat, @robertamunroe interviewed by @milesmaker http://bit.ly/dudZ3R #scriptchat
12:53 am KageyNYC: I'll lead that parade anytime. RT @jeannevb: round 2 of the smut alley detour ha RT @nobull408: @KageyNYC Porn is very ensemle. #scriptchat
12:53 am nobull408: Everyone great chatting off to go work on my latest screenplay. Feel free to contact me anytime! #scriptchat
12:54 am jolenejahnke: Can anyone recommend a well written ensemble SCRIPT that would be a good example to learn from? #scriptchat
12:54 am GeneDoucette: *peeking in* #scriptchat
12:54 am jeannevb: psst #scriptchat meet @LenAndAli ... great screenwriters who took our social media class at #gapf cc @zacsanford )
12:54 am zacsanford2: Little Ms Sun RT @jolenejahnke: Can anyone recommend a well written ensemble SCRIPT that would be a good example to learn from? #scriptchat
12:54 am SnarkTheReader: @brionykidd I think Altman was very clear what the story was. He knew when to focus on minutiae to tell the larger story. #scriptchat
12:55 am dawnjohnston: We seeeee you RT @GeneDoucette: *peeking in* #scriptchat
12:55 am SnarkTheReader: Most new writers get lost in the minutiae. #scriptchat
12:55 am jeannevb: @jolenejahnke we'll be reading LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE for Nov Script Night #scriptchat
12:55 am GermaineJames: 2nd that RT @zacsanford2: Little Ms Sun RT #scriptchat
12:55 am SKCOMEDY: If u write about kissing a girl in 10th grade--1 protag.; if it's about how sex affects a group of 6 HS friends--ensemble. #scriptchat
12:55 am KageyNYC: @nobull408 Later dude! #scriptchat
12:55 am ozzywood: RT @zacsanford2: Little Miss Sunshine RT @jolenejahnke: Can anyone recommend a well written ensemble SCRIPT to learn from? #scriptchat
12:55 am bklynMF: @jeannevb I like my porn with one lady and a camera. Not a sharing guy in that respect. #ensemblebad #scriptchat
12:55 am GeneDoucette: What's the discussion on? And why don't I spend more time in this chat? #scriptchat
12:56 am jeannevb: @LenAndAli try tweeting on Twitter site with the #scriptchat hash and I'll see if you show up in the chat room... or try diff't browser
12:56 am Evenstephen2000: A large, all-star cast does not always mean 'Ensemble'. Just wanted to say that! :D #scriptchat
12:56 am jeannevb: we've spent more time talking what IS ensemble & not enough on how to write for one #scriptchat
12:56 am booksbelow: Good def! RT @SKCOMEDY: Ensemble story is 1 in which theres no clear center of power; pecking orders are constantly shifting #scriptchat
12:57 am jolenejahnke: @zacsanford2 Thanks! #scriptchat
12:57 am zacsanford2: @yeah_write @jolenejahnke Little Miss Sunshine, American Pie, Nashville. #scriptchat
12:57 am GCGeek: Ensemble script examples: how about Breakfast Club or 12 Angry Men? #scriptchat
12:57 am GeneDoucette: Ensembles are rare in film but mandatory in most TV shows. #scriptchat
12:57 am dawnjohnston: There are multi-strand plots and there are ensembles and there are both, agree? #scriptchat
12:57 am yeah_write: RT @SKCOMEDY: If u write abt kissing a girl in 10th grade-1 protag.; if it's abt how sex affects group of 6 HS friends-ensemble. #scriptchat
12:57 am aaronkaiser: *gasp* Knock next time! We could be naked! Or playing spin the bottle. ~ RT @GeneDoucette: *peeking in* #scriptchat
12:57 am joda07: @ozzywood Ensemble script? Lord of the Rings - Fellowship of the Ring #scriptchat
12:58 am aaronkaiser: RT @SKCOMEDY: If u write about kissing a girl in 10th grade--1 protag.; if it's about how sex affects a group of 6 HS friends--ensemble. #scriptchat
12:58 am zacsanford2: @jeannevb I gave advice on writing an ensemble comedy... DON'T until you master the single protag scripts. #scriptchat
12:58 am jeannevb: what wld be ur biggest fear in writing an ensemble? #scriptchat
12:58 am jmiewald: If anyone wants to have #scriptchat live at #SDCC next week, I'll be at J6 Bar at 5pm on Sunday. It's at J and 6th :-) #scriptchat
12:58 am SKCOMEDY: Great chat, everyone--gotta go now. I think I've actually been asleep for the last 10 minutes. #scriptchat
12:58 am brionykidd: @SnarkTheReader Yes... writing like that seems to come so naturally to Altman that it seems strange...#scriptchat
12:58 am GeneDoucette: @aaronkaiser The I definitely won't knock. #scriptchat
12:58 am yeah_write: Thanks! RT @zacsanford2: @yeah_write @jolenejahnke Little Miss Sunshine, American Pie, Nashville. #scriptchat
12:58 am SnarkTheReader: @jeannevb Ha! My two cents: Put all your characters in a boat. Then have at least 3 try to steer. #scriptchat
12:58 am brionykidd: @SnarkTheReader But then I remember it's the product of many years of experience & experimentation. #scriptchat
12:58 am sdarancette: movies based on mystery books like Agatha Christie often lend themselves to movies with an ensemble of characters #scriptchat
12:58 am aaronkaiser: @SKCOMEDY GREAT answer! #scriptchat
12:58 am KageyNYC: Since I clearly have only 1 thing on my mind, what about writing sex in scripts as a topic? My WIP inciting incident is a 3some #scriptchat
12:58 am ozzywood: I concur with Gulino on this one. Not great...RT @joda07: @ozzywood Ensemble script? Lord of the Rings - Fellowship of the Ring #scriptchat
12:58 am jeannevb: ha thx for staying! RT @SKCOMEDY: Great chat, everyone--gotta go now. I think Ive actually been asleep for the last 10 minutes. #scriptchat
12:59 am sdarancette: Hell, why not mention CLUE #scriptchat while am at it.
12:59 am jeannevb: Love it! RT @SnarkTheReader: @jeannevb Ha! My two cents: Put all your characters in a boat. Then have at least 3 try to steer. #scriptchat
12:59 am dianewms: @jeannevb #scriptchat Writing for ensemble; count lines and scenes for each character to ensure they're near to equal. :-)
12:59 am ozzywood: Ciao Steve! Talks soon. RT @SKCOMEDY: Great chat, everyone--gotta go now. #scriptchat
12:59 am thatgalkiki: Seinfeld is tops in my book. :) RT @GeneDoucette Ensembles are rare in film but mandatory in most TV shows. #scriptchat
1:00 am GeneDoucette: @thatgalkiki I was thinking The Wire as the ultimate example. #scriptchat
1:00 am ozzywood: Yep. Hitchcock's LIFEBOAT! RT @jeannevb Ha! My two cents: Put all your characters in a boat. Then have at least 3 try to steer. #scriptchat
1:00 am zacsanford2: Or run the report in FD. RT @dianewms: count lines and scenes for each character to ensure theyre near to equal. :-) #scriptchat
1:00 am brionykidd: @jeannevb Making sure that ALL the characters are interesting & that they do all reflect the same theme, but not in the same way.#scriptchat
1:00 am ozzywood: RT @thatgalkiki: Seinfeld is tops in my book. :) RT @GeneDoucette Ensembles are rare in film but mandatory in most TV shows. #scriptchat
1:00 am jeannevb: RT @dianewms: @jeannevb #scriptchat Writing for ensemble; count lines and scenes for each character to ensure they're near to equal. :-
1:00 am yeah_write: The #treefort is an ensemble cast. And I <3 them. #scriptchat
1:00 am jolenejahnke: Are U sure this is your 1st time at #scriptchat? lol. RT @aaronkaiser *gasp* Knock next time! We could be naked! Or playing spin the bottle.
1:00 am ozzywood: RT @zacsanford2: Or run the report in FD. RT @dianewms count lines and scenes for each character to ensure theyre near to equal. #scriptchat
1:00 am Ideajuice: Making characters weak so they lose control instead of strong so they sieze it #scriptchat
1:00 am dkbrklyn: @jolenejahnke THE BIG CHILL Kasdan, Bendek http://bit.ly/d98gRH #scriptchat
1:01 am jeannevb: Not that I want u to leave #scriptchat but Miles Maker is interviewing @robertamunroe RIGHT NOW! http://bit.ly/dcgn3f
1:01 am frombrain2tweet: 2 write ensembles, 1 needs Tequila RT @jeannevb: we've spent more time talking wht IS ensemble & not enough on how 2 write 4 1 (#ScriptChat)
1:01 am GermaineJames: RT @zacsanford2: @jeannevb I gave advice on writing an ensemble comedy... DONT until you master the single protag scripts. #scriptchat
1:01 am zacsanford2: The hour is up and it seems the handcuffs have been off for a while. We're now free to talk about anything. #scriptchat
1:02 am jeannevb: *smooch*... and we've got lots of wounds ha RT @yeah_write: The #treefort is an ensemble cast. And I <3 them. #scriptchat
1:02 am bklynMF: RT @jeannevb what wld be ur biggest fear in writing an ensemble//Finding room to flesh out in 2hrs. #scriptchat
1:02 am GeneDoucette: RT @thatgalkiki @GeneDoucette Ahhhh. The Wire is great too. Cable, Network...:) #scriptchat
1:02 am KageyNYC: A fivesome RT @yeah_write: The #treefort is an ensemble cast. And I <3 them. #scriptchat
1:02 am jeannevb: *so proud* RT @frombrain2tweet: 2 write ensembles, 1 needs Tequila #scriptchat
1:02 am ozzywood: G'night guys! Gotta start the Sydney day. Thanks for fun (about ensemble) & learning (about porn). #scriptchat
1:02 am dianewms: Hi! #scriptchat Sittin' & sweatin' at Wolf Trap while waitin' for BB King. Lukas Nelson, son of Willie, was a terrific openin' blues act.
1:03 am jeannevb: HA! ;) RT @ozzywood: Gnight guys! Gotta start the Sydney day. Thanks for fun (about ensemble) & learning (about porn). #scriptchat
1:03 am GeneDoucette: Guess I done come in late. S'okay, I've never had an ensemble idea to work through. #scriptchat
1:03 am GinySassenach: @zacsanford2 Thanks for your help and @jeannevb *with the whip* thanks for keeping us in line. Untill next Sunday...... #scriptchat
1:03 am jolenejahnke: @dkbrklyn Fab! Thanks. #scriptchat
1:03 am Evenstephen2000: One technique of ensemble writing is taking the multiple heroes and making them opponents of one-another. #scriptchat
1:03 am yeah_write: Good night, or day as the case may be, to all. #scriptchat
1:03 am jeannevb: *whispers* with happy endings ;) RT @KageyNYC: A fivesome RT @yeah_write: The #treefort is an ensemble cast. And I <3 them. #scriptchat
1:03 am aaronkaiser: @jolenejahnke LOL! Yes, quite sure this is my first time in #scriptchat. My problem is that I'm ALWAYS a troublemaker. ;-)
1:04 am GCGeek: Great chat tonight. Thanks for keeping it active and interesting! #P0rn #scriptchat
1:04 am zacsanford2: Anyone in LA have a great writing spot? I'm tired of Starbucks. I would dig something like @theOFFICE_LA if I could afford it. #scriptchat
1:04 am aaronkaiser: #scriptchat alright, ladies and gents. I vest bow put for the evening. Thanks for a great first chat! See you at SDCC?
1:04 am Ideajuice: @jeannevb Gilligans Island was great ensemble #scriptchat combine it with The Usual Suspects and write The Usual Castaways
1:05 am GermaineJames: @zacsanford2 Have you tried the Canyon Country Market in Laurel Canyon-heard it was great. #scriptchat
1:05 am dianewms: RT LOL! fyi #scriptchat IS an ensemble piece full of an incredible cast of f'ed up creatives xoxo
1:05 am LisaFromNYC: Gr8 session tonight. #scriptchat
1:06 am jeannevb: haha RT @Ideajuice: @jeannevb Gilligans Island great ensemble. Combine it w The Usual Suspects & write The Usual Castaways #scriptchat
1:06 am GermaineJames: @zacsanford2 I've been thinking of getting a group together to do an office share, but that can be heaven or hell. #scriptchat
1:06 am zacsanford2: @GermaineJames Nope, never been to the Canyon Country Market. I tend to hit up Starbucks only because of their hours. #scriptchat
1:06 am jeannevb: Thanks everyone for joining in the ensemble fun! We'll have transcript up in minutes... *hopes* #scriptchat
1:07 am zacsanford2: @GermaineJames Really, I was sort of thinking the same thing... but I have crap for available extra money. #scriptchat
1:07 am jeannevb: Blog post on Advanced Characterisation: http://bit.ly/9BcSCc #scriptchat (via @Bang2Write) #scriptchat
1:07 am GermaineJames: @zacsanford2 WGA library can be cool but hours r ridiculous. #scriptchat
1:07 am aaronkaiser: A lot of webseries writers go to Cafe de Cahuenga ~ RT @zacsanford2: Anyone in LA have a great writing spot? Tired of Starbucks. #scriptchat
1:07 am derek_stewart: @jolenejahnke Cradle Will Rock #goodensemble #scriptchat
1:08 am dawnjohnston: Thanks all, you're an inspiring group, porn and all! #scriptchat
1:08 am aaronkaiser: @jeannevb where do you post the #scriptchat transcript?
1:08 am zacsanford2: @GermaineJames I need something from 8 p - 12 a M-F and at any time on the weekends. #scriptchat
1:09 am jeannevb: www.scriptchat.com RT @aaronkaiser: @jeannevb where do you post the #scriptchat transcript? #scriptchat
1:09 am zacsanford2: @aaronkaiser I've been there. Didn't think the chairs were all that comfortable. But it's been a while. #scriptchat
1:09 am TheWriteScript: Thanks to all of you for an enjoyable read. See you next week! #scriptchat
1:09 am jeannevb: grrrrrr wthashtag site doesnt have a single tweet in our USA transcript. Looks like we'll have to read backwards. Sorry! #scriptchat
1:09 am ozzywood: Loved the movie, but check "Screenwriting: The Sequence Approach" for good analysis. RT @joda07: Fellowship of the Ring #scriptchat
1:09 am aaronkaiser: Super glue, actually. ~ RT @jeannevb: @aaronkaiser i think ur hat is velcroed on :) #scriptchat
1:10 am GermaineJames: @zacsanford2 I might be getting a space as part of this Gypsy Doc & I could maybe do a shared office trade 4 teaching/mentoring #scriptchat
1:10 am robertcarroll: Chairs are amongst keys to creativity! ;) RT @zacsanford2 I've been there. Didn't think the chairs were all that comfortable. #scriptchat
1:11 am GermaineJames: @zacsanford2 I'm looking 4 me too so I'll keep an eye out-artists collectives can b great. #scriptchat
1:11 am frombrain2tweet: I'm writing today, so maybe an ensemble Script will find a place in today's ventures (#ScriptChat)
1:11 am zacsanford2: @GermaineJames I've recently started looking at CL for a office share, but at those prices I could just get @theOffice_LA. #scriptchat
1:12 am jeannevb: EURO transcript pulled beautifully earlier, but USA is nonexistent. I'll grab from tweetchat but u'll have to read bkwds #scriptchat
1:12 am jeannevb: thanks all for joining in the ensemble orgy of goodness! I'll send transcript link in a few.... night! #scriptchat
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