Sunday, March 7, 2010

Scriptchat 3.7.2010 - TV writer Lisa Holdsworth


#scriptchat TOPIC: How does TV writing differ from feature film? How do you break into writing for TV?

This week we welcomed Lisa Holdsworth @WorksWithWords to our EURO chat.  She brought us great insight into the world of TV writing.  There was no American chat due to the Oscars, but trust me, if I posted the transcript of us drinking while watching the show, you might never return to scriptchat… or you’d return more often ;)  @jeannevb

EURO moderator: Mina Zaher, @DreamsGrafter

7:59 pm                DreamsGrafter:                WELCOME @WorksWithWords to EURO #SCRIPTCHAT to talk about TV Writing. Thanks so much for taking time out to do this. #scriptchat
7:59 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Hello everyone else, I'm going to ask @WorkWithWords a few Q's but feel free to jump in a get #scriptchat rolling.
7:59 pm             jbonnell:             @yeah_write Breaking out my Girl Scout cookies. Think Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf is going to kick me out? #scriptchat
7:59 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Let's learn about TV Writing! #scriptchat
7:59 pm             PennyAsh:             @yeah_write Now that would be cool :) #scriptchat
8:00 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @PennyAsh Do you write in the breaks for commercial at a predetermined place or is that totally up to the studio? #scriptchat
8:00 pm             robertiwataki:             Hi. Interesting day for script chat #scriptchat
8:00 pm             yeah_write:             @jbonnell No shit? I'm eating Girl Scout cookies too. lol #scriptchat
8:00 pm             scribe_diatribe:             Just about to head over to #scriptchat.... sorry for the flurry of tweets if you're not into scriptwriting!
8:00 pm             WorksWithWords:             We choose the ad breaks. #scriptchat
8:01 pm             jeannevb:             EURO #scriptchat time! Racing home fr market...
8:01 pm             WorksWithWords:             On Emmerdale we looked for a good ad tag or a mini-cliffhanger that would grip people during the ads. #scriptchat
8:01 pm             filmutopia:             my regular tweeple - I'm just about to enter #scriptchat, a weekly hashtag conversation about screenwriting - sorry for the flood of tweets
8:01 pm             WorksWithWords:             The ads actually help give your ep structure as you are writing in clear acts. #scriptchat
8:01 pm             yeah_write:             Is that the norm? RT @WorksWithWords: We choose the ad breaks. #scriptchat
8:02 pm             marshbuttrue:             #scriptchat A bit late, but any #scriptchat etiquette I should know about quickly?
8:02 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @PennyAsh Emmerdale is a 30 minute soap opera we have in the UK. One of the longest running ones. #scriptchat
8:02 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @WorksWithWords: The ads actually help give your ep structure as you are writing in clear acts. #scriptchat
8:02 pm             PennyAsh:             @WorksWithWords Excelent, thanks :) #scriptchat
8:02 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @DreamsGrafter How did you break into television @WorksWithWords? #scriptchat
8:03 pm             robertiwataki:             RT @filmutopia: my regular tweeple - I'm just about to enter #scriptchat, a weekly hashtag conversation about screenwriting - sorry for the flood of tweets
8:03 pm             yeah_write:             @marshbuttrue We have a guest today @workswithwords Feel free to ask her questions. She chatting about TV writing. #scriptchat
8:03 pm             pattyfantasia:             RT @DreamsGrafter: RT @DreamsGrafter How did you break into television @WorksWithWords? #scriptchat
8:03 pm             PennyAsh:             @DreamsGrafter Interesting, soap opera structure is a lot like book series structure #scriptchat
8:03 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat - this is me listening... I know, how weird is that?
8:04 pm             authorViviAnna:             #scriptchat what's the topic today?
8:04 pm             DreamsGrafter:             I'm writing a TV spec script and am finding writing to three ad breaks helps me focus on the structure too. #scriptchat
8:04 pm             Sofluid:             RT @DreamsGrafter: Let's learn about TV Writing! #scriptchat is taking place now! Why not join in?
8:04 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords I guess I expected that you worked around the ad breaks, not the other way around. Interesting. #scriptchat
8:04 pm             yeah_write:             lmao RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat - this is me listening... I know, how weird is that? #scriptchat
8:05 pm             DreamsGrafter:             When I reached the end of pt 1, I realised that that although there was a cliff hanger there was no clear turning point. #scriptchat
8:05 pm             WorksWithWords:             I was working with Kay Mellor?s son-in-law at a factual TV company. I asked her to read a script of mine. #scriptchat
8:05 pm             WorksWithWords:             She read it and gave me a really tough edit on it. Still, she must have seen something. #scriptchat
8:05 pm             chained:             #scriptchat is it easier to get work as #screenwriter in #tv than in #Hollywood #movie #industry ? & why r #USA #sitcoms so #dumbeddown ?
8:05 pm             robertiwataki:             I love the TV format. It's broken up into 4 or 5 acts wonderfully. Some truly great work is done in it. #scriptchat
8:05 pm             WorksWithWords:             6 months later she asked me to write a trial for Playing The Field. She liked it but I was too inexperienced to get the job. #scriptchat
8:06 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Kay Mellor is a TV writer over here who is responsible for quite a few of her own TV dramas. #scriptchat
8:06 pm             WorksWithWords:             Another 6 months and she offered me a job as her PA/Dogsbody. Whilst I was doing that she started writing Fat Friends 2 #scriptchat
8:06 pm             WorksWithWords:             I pitched an idea for an episode and a new family and she commissioned me. And sacked me as her PA! #scriptchat
8:06 pm             WorksWithWords:             After that, I was able to get the job at Emmerdale and the rest is history! #scriptchat
8:06 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Your voice I bet! RT @WorksWithWords: She read it and gave me a really tough edit on it. Still, she must have seen something. #scriptchat
8:06 pm             ganymeder:             RT @Alex_Carrick: As Oscar warm-ups, #writechat today 3 pm to 6 pm and #scriptchat
8:07 pm             yeah_write:             lol great RT @WorksWithWords: I pitched an idea for an episode and new family and she commissioned me. And sacked me as her PA! #scriptchat
8:07 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @DreamsGrafter What's the difference in writing action/description for TV, compared to film. Esp. in relation to pace? #Scriptchat
8:08 pm             jbonnell:             Best way to get sacked. RT @WorksWithWords: I pitched an idea for an episode and she commissioned me...sacked me as her PA! #scriptchat
8:08 pm             WorksWithWords:             @DreamsGrafter My chutzpah too! #scriptchat
8:08 pm             WorksWithWords:             I?ve never written a film, but there is an unwritten TV rule about not dictating shots and angles. #scriptchat
8:08 pm             WorksWithWords:             My stage directions tend to set tone and mood, as well as specific action. And I keep character descriptions v. short. #scriptchat
8:09 pm             DreamsGrafter:             HA! :D RT @WorksWithWords: @DreamsGrafter My chutzpah too! #scriptchat
8:09 pm             WorksWithWords:             But I try to keep things succinct and to the point. There isn?t time/money in TV for huge set ups and intricate props/locations #scriptchat
8:09 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords Did you always want to work in TV? #scriptchat
8:09 pm             jeannevb:             unpacking groceries while learning TV writing via @workswithwords on today's EURO #scriptchat
8:09 pm             robertiwataki:             @DreamsGrafter It's all about page count. There's not much difference between the two. You keep them short and effective. #scriptchat
8:09 pm             WorksWithWords:             TV writing is about pragmatism and working with what you?ve got. No room for divas! #scriptchat
8:09 pm             momentsoffilm:             Hello all at #scriptchat :)
8:09 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @WorksWithWords: But I try to keep things succinct and to the point. There isn?t time/money in TV for huge set ups and intricate props/locations #scriptchat
8:09 pm             filmutopia:             @WorksWithWords it's the same with movies #scriptchat rule one: don't tell the director how to do their job! LOL
8:09 pm             WorksWithWords:             However, I had to change my style for Robin Hood as I had to be quite specific for the fight sequences #scriptchat
8:10 pm             WorksWithWords:             So, that involved a lot of fake sword-fighting in my office! Hope the neighbours didn?t see! #scriptchat
8:10 pm             PennyAsh:             @WorksWithWords So pretty much just set the scene and give the dialog and action, leave the details to the director #scriptchat
8:11 pm             DreamsGrafter:             That's interesting! RT @WorksWithWords I had to change my style for Robin Hood. Had to be quite specific 4 the fight sequences #scriptchat
8:12 pm             naultpullar:             Hello! #scriptchat
8:12 pm             WorksWithWords:             @PennyAsh That's right, but still be aware that "if it's not on the page, it's not the stage" #scriptchat
8:12 pm             scribe_diatribe:             Errr... I have an idea for a TV series... how many episodes should I write before a pitch? #scriptchat
8:13 pm             robertiwataki:             @scribe_diatribe You don't actually write the scripts. You would write synopses for the Bible. You are paid to write scripts #scriptchat
8:13 pm             PennyAsh:             @WorksWithWords I'm on the right track then, woot :) #scriptchat
8:13 pm             WorksWithWords:             @scribe_diatribe No more than one! That's all that will get read. And make it a f-ing corker! #scriptchat
8:13 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Pilot and bible??? RT @scribe_diatribe: I have an idea for a TV series... how many episodes should I write before a pitch? #scriptchat
8:13 pm             yeah_write:             @scribe_diatribe You may want to write for another series first, to establish yourself. Then pitch series when you've proved... #scriptchat
8:14 pm             yeah_write:             Woohoo. Love to know that. RT @PennyAsh: @WorksWithWords Im on the right track then, woot :) #scriptchat
8:14 pm             scribe_diatribe:             Of course! lol RT make it a f-ing corker! #scriptchat
8:15 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @thewritertype Hi Paul - don't forget to add #scriptchat to include your tweet in the thread. #scriptchat
8:15 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write That's right. In the UK market no-one is interested in unproven writers. Sad but true. #scriptchat
8:15 pm             yeah_write:             @PennyAsh I didn't know you were interested in TV writing. I thought it was just @rachlanger #scriptchat
8:15 pm             thewritertype:             @WorksWithWords writing film and TV, learned to ask: what can THIS medium do better than any other? TV: intimacy? #scriptchat
8:15 pm             PennyAsh:             @yeah_write Me too :) now to get over the what to leave in or take out stuff lol #scriptchat
8:15 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @yeah_write yep... of course the difficulty is always getting that foot through the door... although not in my mouth! :) #scriptchat
8:15 pm             filmutopia:             @WorksWithWords Would I be right in saying that TV drama is largely about character's relationships as opposed to plot driven? #scriptchat
8:15 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write That's right. In the UK market no-one is interested in unproven writers. Sad but true. #scriptchat
8:16 pm             marshbuttrue:             As Tony Jordan has said, it's the insulting truth that nobody cares until you've got a break, then they all come knocking #scriptchat
8:16 pm             jeannevb:             @yeah_write that @pennyash is multitalented... she does it all. Just ask the cowboys ;) #scriptchat
8:16 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @filmutopia: @WorksWithWords Would I be right in saying that TV drama is largely about character's relationships as opposed to plot driven? #scriptchat
8:16 pm             filmutopia:             @DreamsGrafter I just did that! Forgot to hashtag! Ha! #scriptchat
8:16 pm             yeah_write:             @scribe_diatribe Ha! I'm usually switching feet, and not in the door. lol #scriptchat
8:16 pm             PennyAsh:             @yeah_write I like the idea of a series with the same characters #scriptchat
8:17 pm             WorksWithWords:             @thewritertype Intimacy and the chance to develop characters until they are so rounded you feel like you know 'em. #scriptchat
8:17 pm             jeannevb:             @filmutopia if u do chat via http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat the hashtag automatically gets added #scriptchat
8:17 pm             jbonnell:             @WorksWithWords (ie. experience) same in the US,BUT you can pitch to a known show runner here and get them on board. Same in UK? #scriptchat
8:17 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords Are there any books you'd recommend to writers, about figuring out the TV industry? #scriptchat
8:17 pm             momentsoffilm:             @DreamsGrafter I just did that! Forgot to hashtag! Ha! #scriptchat (via @filmutopia) - Ha! Me too!
8:17 pm             PennyAsh:             @jeannevb LOL my cowboys don't kiss and tell :D #scriptchat
8:17 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @robertiwataki: @scribe_diatribe Shouldn't you have to write at least one episode? The first one? esp. if you're a new writer. #scriptchat
8:18 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @jeannevb: @filmutopia if u do chat via http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat the hashtag automatically gets added #scriptchat
8:18 pm             hashtager:             # @DreamsGrafter I just did that! Forgot to hashtag! Ha! #scriptchat (via @filmutopia) - Ha! Me too!
8:18 pm             hashtager:             # @filmutopia if u do chat via http://tweetchat.com/room/scriptchat the hashtag automatically gets added #scriptchat
8:18 pm             scribe_diatribe:             So good series to write for....? of course Doctors... any others that take on 'new' or rather FRESH writers ;) #scriptchat
8:18 pm             WorksWithWords:             @DreamsGrafter Mostly. The soaps are. Genre drama (sci-fi/adventure) is abit more plot-driven. But good characters are good TV. #scriptchat
8:18 pm             yeah_write:             @jbonnell Pitch to a show runner to get on his show, or to get your own? #scriptchat
8:18 pm             purelycarrie:             RT @PennyAsh: @WorksWithWords So pretty much just set the scene and give the dialog and action, leave the details to the director #scriptchat
8:18 pm             filmutopia:             @jeannevb pimp! #scriptchat
8:19 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write I'm reading How to Write for Television by William Smethurst. It's has a pragmatic approach. #scriptchat
8:19 pm             PennyAsh:             @WorksWithWords @yeah_write Same in publishing, easier to get published one you manage to break in #scriptchat
8:19 pm             naultpullar:             Film can create intimacy. It just depends on how the story is told. #scriptchat
8:19 pm             jbonnell:             @yeah_write Pitch to a known showrunner to get him to showrun your show. You need that clout. #scriptchat
8:19 pm             purelycarrie:             @DreamsGrafter @PennyAsh What's the subject for #scriptchat?
8:19 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @WorksWithWords: @DreamsGrafter Mostly. The soaps are. Genre drama (sci-fi/adventure) is abit more plot-driven. But good characters are good TV. #scriptchat
8:19 pm             WorksWithWords:             @jbonnell We don't really have show runners. You're usually pitching to script editors and producers. Especially on BBC shows. #scriptchat
8:20 pm             PennyAsh:             @purelycarrie Writing for TV with @WorksWithWiords #scriptchat
8:20 pm             yeah_write:             @DreamsGrafter And Lee Goldberg? I have that book. I've had a long talk with Lee about TV writing, but years ago. #scriptchat
8:20 pm             WorksWithWords:             @jbonnell Although there are some exception and I hope the system will become "americanized". I wanna be a showrunner! #scriptchat.
8:20 pm             thewritertype:             @WorksWithWords True; I ended up caring more about some characters in The Wire than about many of my friends. #scriptchat
8:20 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @marshbuttrue: As Tony Jordan has said, it's the insulting truth that nobody cares until you've got a break, then they all come knocking #scriptchat
8:21 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @WorksWithWords So... send a spec script of any show to a script editor of a show you'd like to write for? #scriptchat
8:21 pm             stoner43:             @zacsanford i'll wager lunch. your url is broken though.... #scriptchat #oscars
8:21 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords A show runner is just another name for the exec producer that runs the show. #scriptchat
8:21 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @marshbuttrue Hello and welcome! :) #scriptchat
8:21 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write Not really. I recommend watching loads of telly! #scriptchat
8:21 pm             jbonnell:             @WorksWithWords (ie. exceptions) Russell T Davies! #scriptchat
8:22 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write Will check that one out, thanks! #scriptchat (Lee Goldberg's book on TV Writing)
8:22 pm             WorksWithWords:             @scribe_diatribe The soaps occasionally take writers on as storyliners. You just have to keep asking. #scriptchat
8:22 pm             yeah_write:             @scribe_diatribe Actually you want to send a script of another similar show. #scriptchat
8:22 pm             yeah_write:             Not a problem. lol RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write Not really. I recommend watching loads of telly! #scriptchat
8:22 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords What is a storyliner? #scriptchat
8:22 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write Not really. I recommend watching loads of telly! #scriptchat
8:23 pm             marshbuttrue:             @dreamsgrafter Hiya! Recognise your little picture thing from ukwriters! #scriptchat
8:23 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @yeah_write Yeah.... I heard that... but apparently don't send a spec of the actually show... that doesn't work so well... #scriptchat
8:23 pm             yeah_write:             @DreamsGrafter No, Lee is the cowriter on the book you mentioned. At least I think that's the same one I have. #scriptchat
8:23 pm             WorksWithWords:             @thewritertype I feel like I lived with Buffy, Willow and Xander! #scriptchat
8:23 pm             EitherOrFilms:             Hi #scriptchat ~just listening in & enjoying writers talking! And adding you all to my writers list... :)
8:23 pm             Sofluid:             RT @DreamsGrafter: @yeah_write I'm reading How to Write for Television by William Smethurst #scriptchat I recommend that one!
8:24 pm             DreamsGrafter:             At BBC Drama Q&A, they were interested in the writer having something to say rather than knowing about structure, initially. #scriptchat
8:24 pm             yeah_write:             @scribe_diatribe Right, because you'll never get the characters close enough to the real thing. Does that make sense? #scriptchat
8:24 pm             WorksWithWords:             @scribe_diatribe Not a spec script - not in the UK. Send an original piece of your own. #scriptchat
8:24 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Awesome! RT @WorksWithWords: @thewritertype I feel like I lived with Buffy, Willow and Xander! #scriptchat
8:24 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb LOL my cowboys don't kiss and tell :D #scriptchat
8:24 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @yeah_write Yes... that's exactly what I was told :) #scriptchat
8:24 pm             momentsoffilm:             I'd be interested to know, if one were to adapt a film screenplay for TV what the main differences would be? #scriptchat
8:25 pm             yeah_write:             If I wrote one word for every writing book I have, I'd have a damn long script. #scriptchat
8:25 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @marshbuttrue Ha ha, yes. I recognise your pic too. ET always and forever. ;) Hope you're enjoying #scriptchat
8:25 pm             jeannevb:             @filmutopia o #scriptchat
8:25 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write Not exactly. In this country execs tend not be writers. Especially at teh BBC. (which is a problem IMHO) #scriptchat
8:25 pm             yeah_write:             RT @momentsoffilm: Id be interested to know, if one were to adapt a film screenplay for TV what the main differences would be? #scriptchat
8:25 pm             mjodirector:             RT @DreamsGrafter: Awesome! RT @WorksWithWords: @thewritertype I feel like I lived with Buffy, Willow and Xander! #scriptchat
8:25 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat - sorry guys... I've got to step out for the rest of this session. @WorksWithWords thanks for sharing your experience
8:25 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @WorksWithWords is doing an amazing job with tonight's #scriptchat. Thanks so much Lisa!
8:26 pm             julianfriedmann:             I have been commissioned with Chris Walker of the MATV to write new book on writing for television: #scriptchat
8:26 pm             jeannevb:             @filmutopia just luring at #scriptchat today, as I'm not pursuing tv writing at this pt. In US, need to live in either NYC or LA for that
8:26 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @filmutopia See you later Clive. Thanks for joining in. #scriptchat
8:26 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @DreamsGrafter: Pilot and bible??? RT @scribe_diatribe: I have an idea for a TV series... how many episodes should I write before a pitch? #scriptchat
8:26 pm             julianfriedmann:             @WorksWithWords British TV writing will not become Americanised since we cannot afford to pay multiple writers #scriptchat
8:26 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: I have been commissioned with Chris Walker of the MATV to write new book on writing for television: #scriptchat
8:27 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write On soaps, the storyliners take the stories pitched by the script writers and break them across the epsodes. #scriptchat
8:27 pm             robertiwataki:             @jeannevb Sad but true... :-( #scriptchat
8:27 pm             momentsoffilm:             RT @DreamsGrafter: @WorksWithWords is doing an amazing job with tonights #scriptchat. Thanks so much Lisa! #scriptchat
8:27 pm             julianfriedmann:             In UK (and Europe) we can afford (and do eg Corrie) team development, not team writing #scriptchat
8:27 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @julianfriedmann Awesome Julian. Let us know when it's published and we'll spread the word. #scriptchat
8:27 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write They do the donkey work! #scriptchat
8:27 pm             Sofluid:             RT @julianfriedmann: I have been commissioned to write new book on writing for television: #scriptchat Congrats Julian! Look forward to it!
8:27 pm             marshbuttrue:             @julianfriedmann That's great news! There's a massive absence of good UK-based TV writing books #scriptchat
8:28 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: @WorksWithWords British TV writing will not become Americanised since we cannot afford to pay multiple writers #scriptchat
8:28 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords So storyliners sort of make the long term outline for where the show is going? #scriptchat
8:28 pm             mjodirector:             RT @filmutopia: @jeannevb pimp! #scriptchat
8:28 pm             WorksWithWords:             @julianfriedmann Too true. #scriptchat
8:28 pm             momentsoffilm:             RT @julianfriedmann: In UK (and Europe) we can afford (and do eg Corrie) team development, not team writing #scriptchat
8:28 pm             yeah_write:             ROFLMAO RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write They do the donkey work! #scriptchat
8:28 pm             julianfriedmann:             Re Teamwriting members of TwelvePoint check out Jayne Kirkham's article - put teamwriting into search box http://bit.ly/LWZEO #scriptchat
8:28 pm             yeah_write:             Hey, I'm good at donkey work. lol RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write They do the donkey work! #scriptchat
8:29 pm             jeannevb:             @robertiwataki but that's episodic TV, not a TV film ;) #scriptchat
8:29 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @jeannevb Is that because writers have to work in offices over there? ... i.e. writing teams? #scriptchat
8:29 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @PennyAsh: @WorksWithWords So pretty much just set the scene and give the dialog and action, leave the details to the director #scriptchat
8:29 pm             jeannevb:             she can shoot raccoons 2 ;) RT @yeah_write: Hey, Im good at donkey work RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write They do the donkey work! #scriptchat
8:30 pm             thewritertype:             @WorksWithWords Now, for TV drama series, is it best to go through a production company or direct to broadcaster? #scriptchat
8:30 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write Yeah, they work out what story beats need to go in each ep and look at the shape of teh stories across th week/month #scriptchat
8:30 pm             robertiwataki:             @jeannevb Ha! Very true. Sadly the TV Movie isn't as popular as it once was. #scriptchat
8:30 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @WorksWithWords: @scribe_diatribe Not a spec script - not in the UK. Send an original piece of your own. #scriptchat
8:30 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write You need to be. I did a month in teh Emmerdale story office. Loved it but it broke me! #scriptchat
8:30 pm             jeannevb:             @DreamsGrafter yes, teams. U need to be in office for episodic television #scriptchat
8:30 pm             scribe_diatribe:             I wonder if that's why American shows are often better written? More writing input to help with problems...? Ooh can of worms! #scriptchat
8:30 pm             julianfriedmann:             @JLichtenberg Fot TV series pitch do episode 3 and short paras for at least 6 eps (in UK). Avoid ep 1 first, most difficult #scriptchat
8:30 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @yeah_write: @scribe_diatribe Actually you want to send a script of another similar show. #scriptchat
8:31 pm             DreamsGrafter:             scribe_diatribe It'll be hard for execs to establish your writing style/voice from a spec script based on an existing programme. #scriptchat
8:31 pm             iscamedia:             RT @yeah_write: If I wrote one word for every writing book I have, I'd have a damn long script. #scriptchat
8:31 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords Can I hop across the pond and come work there? #scriptchat
8:31 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @yeah_write: @WorksWithWords What is a storyliner? #scriptchat
8:31 pm             jbonnell:             @robertiwataki (TV movie) sure is, just not on the networks, but the cable guys love them still (SyFy, Lifetime, TNT, etc). #scriptchat
8:31 pm             DreamsGrafter:             scribe_diatribe But it's different in the US. #scriptchat
8:31 pm             naultpullar:             It's been interesting reading everyone's posts but homework calls! Have a good day! #scriptchat
8:31 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @scribe_diatribe: @yeah_write Yeah.... I heard that... but apparently don't send a spec of the actually show... that doesn't work so well... #scriptchat
8:31 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @julianfriedmann Wow... INTERESTING!!! I was working on Ep.1!! lol #scriptchat
8:31 pm             WorksWithWords:             @thewritertype Depends. You might want to find a prod co that specialises in your genre/subject matter/style... #scriptchat
8:32 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: @JLichtenberg Fot TV series pitch do episode 3 and short paras for at least 6 eps (in UK). Avoid ep 1 first, most difficult #scriptchat
8:32 pm             julianfriedmann:             @scribe_diatribe Teamwriting def improves scripts; egos left outside door; all for one etc. + lead writer v powerful = producer #scriptchat
8:32 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @yeah_write Let's do a 'writers exchange'.... I'd like to go to LA or NY please! :) #scriptchat
8:32 pm             WorksWithWords:             @thewritertype But the BBC does read everything. Which is why they are painfully slow! #scriptchat
8:32 pm             marshbuttrue:             Difficult call on 'start with the pilot' or 'start with a random middle episode'. Lots of people have contradiction views! #scriptchat
8:32 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write Yeah, they work out what story beats need to go in each ep and look at the shape of teh stories across th week/month #scriptchat
8:33 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @thewritertype: @WorksWithWords Now, for TV drama series, is it best to go through a production company or direct to broadcaster? #scriptchat
8:33 pm             WorksWithWords:             @deanlines It hones your other skills. And you're still using your voise. At least you should be. #scriptchat
8:33 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @julianfriedmann: @scribe_diatribe Teamwriting def improves scripts; egos left outside door; all for one etc. + lead writer v powerful = producer #scriptchat
8:33 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @WorksWithWords: @thewritertype But the BBC does read everything. Which is why they are painfully slow! #scriptchat
8:33 pm             yeah_write:             @jbonnell Sure, there are more movies on TV now, with the channels airing only TV movies. #scriptchat
8:33 pm             jeannevb:             @robertiwataki Valarie Bertenelli shld bring em back haha #scriptchat
8:33 pm             julianfriedmann:             @scribe_diatribe Ep 1 needs setup of characters, milieu, tone + strong storyline = v difficult. Best write ep 1 last #scriptchat
8:33 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @WorksWithWords: @scribe_diatribe Not a spec script - not in the UK. Send an original piece of your own. #scriptchat
8:34 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write Well, there's a n Aussie in the Emmerdale office at the mo. Why not an American cousin? #scriptchat
8:34 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @julianfriedmann Yep that makes sense.... thanks! :) #scriptchat
8:35 pm             WorksWithWords:             @deanlines Still, it's nice to get back toyour own characters. Which I get to write on New Tricks because I devise the stories. #scriptchat
8:35 pm             julianfriedmann:             @marshbuttrue Pilot as backdoor is a good way: 90 mins standalone setting up the series can get bought as a TV movie #scriptchat
8:35 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: I have been commissioned with Chris Walker of the MATV to write new book on writing for television: #scriptchat
8:35 pm             WorksWithWords:             New Tricks is the BBC police procedural I write on. #scriptchat
8:35 pm             julianfriedmann:             @JLichtenberg I would go to produc company bec if go to broadcaster who reject you have to tell indep producers #scriptchat
8:35 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords Where is my passport and work visa? I'm so there. lol I can do grunt work, I'm self-employed so I'm good at it. #scriptchat
8:35 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @jeannevb: @filmutopia just luring at #scriptchat today, as I'm not pursuing tv writing at this pt. In US, need to live in either NYC or LA for that
8:35 pm             scribe_diatribe:             So... errr... could you send a 'bit' of a film script to show your 'voice'... would that work? #scriptchat
8:36 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @WorksWithWords British TV writing will not become Americanised since we cannot afford to pay multiple writers #scriptchat
8:36 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @julianfriedmann: @scribe_diatribe I'm writing a 1st ep. It is very difficult but it's also helped me focus on world/story/chars #scriptchat
8:36 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write On soaps, the storyliners take the stories pitched by the script writers and break them across the epsodes. #scriptchat
8:36 pm             WorksWithWords:             @scribe_diatribe Sure. My first calling card script was a film. #scriptchat
8:37 pm             julianfriedmann:             @WorksWithWords New Tricks is a great show: quirky warm characters and clever mysteries. Best mystery show on air in my opinion #scriptchat
8:37 pm             thewritertype:             @marshbuttrue Just start with something they can't stop reading. They'll find out what episode it is when they finish.#scriptchat
8:37 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @yeah_write: @WorksWithWords So storyliners sort of make the long term outline for where the show is going? #scriptchat
8:37 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @scribe_diatribe Yes, as a sample of writing. Definitely. #scriptchat
8:37 pm             purelycarrie:             @PennyAsh Thank You. It seems writing for tv is totally different than scripts. no? #scriptchat
8:38 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @jeannevb: @robertiwataki but that's episodic TV, not a TV film ;) #scriptchat
8:38 pm             julianfriedmann:             @scribe_diatribe Calling card scripts should be original to show voice: but have spec eps of 1 or 2 existing shows too #scriptchat
8:38 pm             WorksWithWords:             @julianfriedmann Thank you! I love working on it. Just finished my ninth ep! #scriptchat
8:38 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @jeannevb: @DreamsGrafter yes, teams. U need to be in office for episodic television #scriptchat
8:38 pm             julianfriedmann:             Synopsis for your show shd be written visually and in the present tense; makes it easier to see it while reading: broad strokes #scriptchat
8:39 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @julianfriedmann cool... better get writing then! lol #scriptchat
8:39 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @JLichtenberg Fot TV series pitch do episode 3 and short paras for at least 6 eps (in UK). Avoid ep 1 first, most difficult #scriptchat
8:39 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @purelycarrie Hi Carrie, yes, very different. The audience can flick the channel anytime so it's all about keeping them hooked. #scriptchat
8:39 pm             jeannevb:             lurking today but lovely want to shout out to our GUEST @WorksWithWords for her wonderful insight to TV writing #scriptchat
8:39 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @DreamsGrafter: scribe_diatribe It'll be hard for execs to establish your writing style/voice from a spec script based on an existing programme. #scriptchat
8:40 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @purelycarrie So action and pace has to be immediate and constantly moving forward. #scriptchat
8:40 pm             scribe_diatribe:             When's it on?? RT @WorksWithWords: @julianfriedmann Thank you! I love working on it. Just finished my ninth ep! #scriptchat
8:40 pm             julianfriedmann:             @WorksWithWords Well done. New Tricks is also a comedy which is why I believe it stands the test of time. #scriptchat
8:40 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @jbonnell: @robertiwataki (TV movie) sure is, just not on the networks, but the cable guys love them still (SyFy, Lifetime, TNT, etc). #scriptchat
8:40 pm             scribe_diatribe:             Too right! :) RT @jeannevb: want to shout out to our GUEST @WorksWithWords for her wonderful insight to TV writing #scriptchat
8:40 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @scribe_diatribe: @julianfriedmann Wow... INTERESTING!!! I was working on Ep.1!! lol #scriptchat
8:41 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @WorksWithWords: @thewritertype Depends. You might want to find a prod co that specialises in your genre/subject matter/style... #scriptchat
8:41 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @scribe_diatribe Teamwriting def improves scripts; egos left outside door; all for one etc. + lead writer v powerful = producer #scriptchat
8:41 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @scribe_diatribe: Too right! :) RT @jeannevb: want to shout out to our GUEST @WorksWithWords for her wonderful insight to TV writing #scriptchat
8:42 pm             WorksWithWords:             @julianfriedmann But a great hybrid where we can tackle dark subjects and still have teh laughs. #scriptchat
8:42 pm             yeah_write:             She's awesome. RT @jeannevb: ... lovely want to shout out to our GUEST @WorksWithWords for her wonderful insight to TV writing #scriptchat
8:43 pm             WorksWithWords:             Really enjoying this! #scriptchat
8:43 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: Synopsis for your show shd be written visually and in the present tense; makes it easier to see it while reading: broad strokes #scriptchat
8:43 pm             yeah_write:             @DreamsGrafter I didn't know you were interested in TV writing too. I'm learning about people as well today. Sweet. #scriptchat
8:43 pm             DreamsGrafter:             I've hit the overwrite button. Don't know how to switch it off. Can't RT and comment - there's lots I'm agree with. #scriptchat
8:43 pm             glowmoment:             RT @yeah_write: She's awesome. RT @jeannevb: ... lovely want to shout out to our GUEST @WorksWithWords for her wonderful insight to TV writing #scriptchat
8:43 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @scribe_diatribe Calling card scripts should be original to show voice: but have spec eps of 1 or 2 existing shows too #scriptchat
8:44 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Such as what a great job @WorksWithWords is doing! #scriptchat
8:44 pm             julianfriedmann:             @WorksWithWords Hybrids difficult but capture wider audience. Comedy known as unifier of eg male and females #scriptchat
8:44 pm             scribe_diatribe:             So... I hear that shows aren't sold to US unless a certain number of episodes... should UK writers write with that in mind? #scriptchat
8:44 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @marshbuttrue No time to stop! It's go go go ... ;) #scriptchat
8:44 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @jeannevb: lurking today but lovely want to shout out to our GUEST @WorksWithWords for her wonderful insight to TV writing #scriptchat
8:44 pm             purelycarrie:             @DreamsGrafter Hi Mina, yes, very different. The auidience can flick the channel anytime so it's all about keeping them hooked. #scriptchat
8:44 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords See I could work in UK without having to learn a new language. Only a few new words. Need to have a talk with DH #scriptchat
8:44 pm             Sofluid:             @WorksWithWords #scriptchat <3 New tricks! I'm guessing the next series will be on soon? 'Cause the last one is being repeated at the mo :)
8:45 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @WorksWithWords Well done. New Tricks is also a comedy which is why I believe it stands the test of time. #scriptchat
8:45 pm             jbonnell:             @scribe_diatribe Shows don't go into syndication (US, UK, anywhere) unless a certain number of episodes get hit. #scriptchat
8:45 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @purelycarrie Just like the adverts ... TV is designed to keep the audience entertained and in their armchairs ... ;) #scriptchat
8:46 pm             julianfriedmann:             @scribe_diatribe Don't aim a UK show at US market; just make it work v well in UK and keep share of changed format rights #scriptchat
8:46 pm             PennyAsh:             @purelycarrie I think it's kind of like the difference between novels and short stories #scriptchat
8:46 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @WorksWithWords: @julianfriedmann But a great hybrid where we can tackle dark subjects and still have teh laughs. #scriptchat
8:46 pm             purelycarrie:             @DreamsGrafter So action and pace has to be immediate and constantly moving forward. #scriptchat #hardwork and thanks ...
8:46 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @jbonnell isn't it a limit of 12? Or it could be more... probably something to do with how 'schedules' are worked out in US? #scriptchat
8:46 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @scribe_diatribe: So... I hear that shows aren't sold to US unless a certain number of episodes... should UK writers write with that in mind? #scriptchat
8:46 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @WorksWithWords: Really enjoying this! #scriptchat
8:46 pm             DreamsGrafter:             RT @WorksWithWords: Really enjoying this! #scriptchat
8:46 pm             WorksWithWords:             @scribe_diatribe ...they were distictly British in my opinion. #scriptchat
8:46 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @yeah_write: @DreamsGrafter I didn't know you were interested in TV writing too. I'm learning about people as well today. Sweet. #scriptchat
8:47 pm             julianfriedmann:             In Uk access shows disappearing so BBC Writers Academy becomes more important and gobbles up gigs for the rest #scriptchat
8:47 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @DreamsGrafter: I've hit the overwrite button. Don't know how to switch it off. Can't RT and comment - there's lots I'm agree with. #scriptchat
8:47 pm             rachlanger:             @yeah_write @pennyash @nopantsisland TV writers FTW! #scriptchat
8:47 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write Yes, would love to write for TV! Writing a spec script now which I'll be sending out ... #scriptchat
8:47 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @WorksWithWords Hybrids difficult but capture wider audience. Comedy known as unifier of eg male and females #scriptchat
8:48 pm             purelycarrie:             @DreamsGrafter Just like the adverts ... TV is designed to keep the audience entertained and in their armchairs ... ;) #scriptchat
8:48 pm             julianfriedmann:             Good way to jump queue is MA in scriptwriting esp De Montfort, only one in TV writing with heavy industry contacts #scriptchat
8:48 pm             marshbuttrue:             @julianfriedmann There's always Doctors, but I guess that's the same old Writersroom submission game #scriptchat
8:48 pm             WorksWithWords:             @julianfriedmann Have to say, I'm concerned about BBC proiducing 'cookie cutter' writers. #scriptchat
8:48 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @julianfriedmann let's hope the new 'saved' money will help develop new drama and original content! :) #scriptchat
8:48 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write I think there's nothing better than getting into ppl's homes, entertaining them and provoking thouoght. #scriptchat
8:48 pm             purelycarrie:             @PennyAsh I think it's kind of like the difference between novels and short stories #scriptchat >>>> cool
8:48 pm             julianfriedmann:             Most writers' first TV gigs are on other shows wh is why calling card scripts must be so good and carefully chosen #scriptchat
8:49 pm             jbonnell:             @scribe_diatribe Syndication usually hits around 100 eps. A run on BBCA from a BBC show is about a season (13 eps). #scriptchat
8:49 pm             yeah_write:             @DreamsGrafter I have a lot to learn before trying a spec script. But I'd love to be a staff writer for the crazy experience. #scriptchat
8:50 pm             yeah_write:             Paul Haggis has a great interview on Dialogues where he talks about being a staff writer. Crazy life. #scriptchat
8:50 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write What kind of shows would you like to write for? #scriptchat
8:50 pm             WorksWithWords:             Even estab. writers need good original calling card scripts. I'm about to go away and write a new one. Your voice does develop. #scriptchat
8:50 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @JLichtenberg I'd go to produc company bec if go to broadcaster who reject you have to tell indie producers #scriptchat
8:50 pm             julianfriedmann:             @WorksWithWords Academy saves them money, the scripts require fewer rewrites, delivered on time etc: Some will rise above it: #scriptchat
8:51 pm             jbonnell:             @scribe_diatribe (BBCA from BBC) that also might deal with first run deals on BBC, etc, though. #scriptchat
8:51 pm             yeah_write:             @DreamsGrafter Well I'm not funny, so I'd like to write one hour drama, or MOW. #scriptchat
8:51 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @WorksWithWords Academy saves them money, the scripts require fewer rewrites, delivered on time etc: Some will rise above it: #scriptchat
8:51 pm             yeah_write:             What about you? RT @DreamsGrafter: @yeah_write What kind of shows would you like to write for? #scriptchat
8:51 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @WorksWithWords: Even estab. writers need good original calling card scripts. I'm about to go away and write a new one. Your voice does develop. #scriptchat
8:51 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write Writing 4 TV would teach u so much about yr craft esp. 'cause of its quick turnover & necessity for engaging chars. #scriptchat
8:51 pm             julianfriedmann:             @scribe_diatribe Best shot at original drama on BBC is BBC 3 or 4; also think about micro-budget movies. #scriptchat
8:52 pm             WorksWithWords:             @julianfriedmann They could reduce the number of rewrites if they storylined the shows properly with the writing team!!! #scriptchat
8:52 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @yeah_write: @DreamsGrafter Well I'm not funny, so I'd like to write one hour drama, or MOW. #scriptchat
8:52 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @jbonnell Yeah... Being Human series 1 was only 6 episodes... but that was shown... but now sold to be remade in US... #scriptchat
8:52 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords Are you writing year round, or is there a break? #scriptchat
8:52 pm             julianfriedmann:             @DreamsGrafter You learn not just bec quick turnover but bec of development hell coal face which writing on own never gives #scriptchat
8:53 pm             PennyAsh:             @purelycarrie Yep, definitely going to give TV a shot too :) #scriptchat
8:53 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write Eastenders (a British soap) and stuff like the original miniseries 'Traffik'. Completely blew my mind that did. #scriptchat
8:53 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write I'm having a wee break at the mo, but it's my first one in 4 years and it will be short! #scriptchat
8:53 pm             yeah_write:             After my first killing this week, I think I could now write for Dexter. lol #scriptchat
8:53 pm             purelycarrie:             @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat TV is much harder I would imagine to fit in the dialogue - and keep it snappy ... ;)
8:53 pm             julianfriedmann:             @WorksWithWords Agree that better storylining would help but doubt that storyliners are sufficently trained. #scriptchat
8:53 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Awesome! Good luck! :) RT @PennyAsh: @purelycarrie Yep, definitely going to give TV a shot too :) #scriptchat
8:54 pm             yeah_write:             Wow. RT @WorksWithWords: @yeah_write Im having a wee break at the mo, but its my first one in 4 years and it will be short! #scriptchat
8:54 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @WorksWithWords everybody needs a wee break! :) #scriptchat
8:54 pm             WorksWithWords:             @julianfriedmann Amen. Neither are producers and some script eds in my expereince. #scriptchat
8:54 pm             julianfriedmann:             Prob 40-50 articles on writing for TV in TwelvePoint archive of 800+ articles; sorry members only!! #scriptchat
8:54 pm             yeah_write:             @DreamsGrafter I love Eastenders. I haven't seen Traffik. #scriptchat
8:55 pm             thewritertype:             @julianfriedmann BBC Academy closes more doors than it opens: they only 'discover' what they're already looking for. #scriptchat
8:55 pm             yeah_write:             RT @purelycarrie: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat TV is much harder I would imagine to fit in the dialogue - and keep it snappy... ;) #scriptchat
8:55 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @DreamsGrafter: @yeah_write Eastenders (a British soap) and stuff like the original miniseries 'Traffik'. Completely blew my mind that did. #scriptchat
8:55 pm             yeah_write:             @julianfriedmann You could raffle a membership someday via Twitter. #scriptchat
8:56 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @scribe_diatribe: @jbonnell Yeah... Being Human series 1 was only 6 episodes... but that was shown... but now sold to be remade in US... #scriptchat
8:56 pm             julianfriedmann:             @WorksWithWords Producers like estate agents: writers can become prods too with greater control over their own wor. #scriptchat
8:56 pm             momentsoffilm:             Interestingly @Sadknob was telling me this week that his US shows are often developed with UK in mind. Is this sane viceversa? #scriptchat
8:56 pm             filmutopia:             #scriptchat - can I just say it is lovely to have a scriptchat about a subject that I know sod all about... very refreshing
8:56 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write What's MOW? #scriptchat
8:57 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: Prob 40-50 articles on writing for TV in TwelvePoint archive of 800+ articles; sorry members only!! #scriptchat
8:57 pm             WorksWithWords:             @thewritertype In fairness they do run other schemes. I'm mentoring 4 new writers for the Beeb at teh moment. #scriptchat
8:57 pm             julianfriedmann:             @yeah_write Could do - but only �29 for 800 articles. Shd have charged double then raffles might have worked better! #scriptchat
8:57 pm             yeah_write:             Movie of the week, like on Lifetime TV. RT @DreamsGrafter: @yeah_write Whats MOW? #scriptchat
8:57 pm             julianfriedmann:             @DreamsGrafter Movie of the Week, used to be called Disease of the Week; not done in UK but v popular in Germany #scriptchat
8:57 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @WorksWithWords: @thewritertype In fairness they do run other schemes. I'm mentoring 4 new writers for the Beeb at teh moment. #scriptchat
8:58 pm             Ludovicaa:             @filmutopia #scriptchat thats every week for me LOL
8:58 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write Please check it out if you can. It is amazing. It's TV drama at its best on every level: story, character, worlds. #scriptchat
8:58 pm             marshbuttrue:             @workswithwords And as for anyone other than the BBC, it seems to have all dried up? Never hear C4 doing anything now #scriptchat
8:58 pm             julianfriedmann:             @momentsoffilm US shows developed with global market in mind: Roseanne apparently sold to over 130 countries for $1 billion pa #scriptchat
8:59 pm             yeah_write:             A tad more expensive in $ RT @julianfriedmann: @yeah_write Could do - but only �29 for 800 articles. #scriptchat
8:59 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @marshbuttrue I think C4 works with independent companies for new stuff... #scriptchat
8:59 pm             yeah_write:             @DreamsGrafter Do you know if it's available on Netflix? They offer a lot of series TV. #scriptchat
8:59 pm             WorksWithWords:             @marshbuttrue C4 is looking better at the moment thanks to freed up Big Brother money. But then everyone is pitching at them . #scriptchat
9:00 pm             PennyAsh:             @DreamsGrafter Thanks :) #scriptchat
9:00 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: @momentsoffilm US shows developed with global market in mind: Roseanne apparently sold to over 130 countries for $1 billion pa #scriptchat
9:00 pm             julianfriedmann:             I editied 2 books (out of print but sometimes avail) Writing Long-Running TV Series with great articles esp from USA #scriptchat
9:00 pm             momentsoffilm:             @julianfriedmann Wowsers! #scriptchat
9:00 pm             purelycarrie:             @yeah_write #scriptchat Thanks for the RT! TV is much harder I would imagine to fit in the dialogue - and keep it snappy ... ;) >indeed
9:00 pm             WorksWithWords:             @marshbuttrue Might improve at ITV now they are back in teh black but very limited interest in anything other than crime :-( #scriptchat
9:00 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @julianfriedmann Ha ha. Thanks Julian! #scriptchat
9:01 pm             filmutopia:             @julianfriedmann The US has always been better at the business side, less parochial, more global, both in film and TV #scriptchat
9:01 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @WorksWithWords and fookin' game shows :( urgh! #scriptchat
9:01 pm             PennyAsh:             @purelycarrie @yeah_write I would think TV would teach you tighter writing #scriptchat
9:01 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @julianfriedmann: I editied 2 books (out of print but sometimes avail) Writing Long-Running TV Series with great articles #scriptchat
9:01 pm             jbonnell:             @WorksWithWords Would C4, ITV, BBC, et al, look at pitches from US based companies? Would they have to be made in the UK? #scriptchat
9:02 pm             yeah_write:             @purelycarrie Snappy is hard work, and lots of rewriting to make it look effortless. #scriptchat
9:02 pm             marshbuttrue:             @workswithwords How about getting a spec to ITV soap, or C4? There doesn't seem to be any route in other than BBC #scriptchat
9:02 pm             WorksWithWords:             @scribe_diatribe Again, sad but true. #scriptchat
9:02 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @yeah_write: @purelycarrie Snappy is hard work, and lots of rewriting to make it look effortless. #scriptchat
9:02 pm             julianfriedmann:             @filmutopia If UK better at business might be more profitable; BBC used to not reinvest sales of series back to drama producers #scriptchat
9:02 pm             momentsoffilm:             RT @filmutopia: @julianfriedmann US has always been better at business side, less parochial, more global, both in film and TV #scriptchat
9:03 pm             yeah_write:             @PennyAsh I almost write too tight as it is. If there is such a thing as too tight. #scriptchat
9:03 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write Yes, just checked. Traffik (1989) not the remake. Netflix gives it 3 and a half out of 4 stars. #scriptchat
9:03 pm             WorksWithWords:             @marshbuttrue You tend to have to approach with an agent. #scriptchat
9:03 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @DreamsGrafter: @yeah_write Yes, just checked. Traffik (1989) not the remake. Netflix gives it 3 and a half out of 4 stars. #scriptchat
9:03 pm             yeah_write:             Wow, that hour flew by. Thank you so much to @workswithwords for you time and answers. This was an hour well spent. #scriptchat
9:04 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Completely! RT @purelycarrie: @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat TV is much harder I would imagine to fit in the dialogue - and keep it snappy ;)
9:04 pm             yeah_write:             @DreamsGrafter Thanks I'll add it to my que. Now I'm really interested in seeing it. #scriptchat
9:04 pm             PennyAsh:             @yeah_write There's a fine line between tight and too tight :) #scriptchat
9:04 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @yeah_write: Wow, that hour flew by. Thank you so much to @workswithwords for you time and answers.. an hour well spent. #scriptchat
9:04 pm             scribe_diatribe:             Thanks all.... esp. @yeah_write and @WorksWithWords! #scriptchat
9:05 pm             robertiwataki:             Yes, thanks @workswithwords!!! #scriptchat
9:05 pm             WorksWithWords:             Thanks for having me! Good fun. #scriptchat
9:05 pm             yeah_write:             @scribe_diatribe Lots of learning going on this hour. #scriptchat
9:05 pm             thewritertype:             @WorksWithWords In fairness, you're right, and I hope that works out. And let's have more fairness. BBC money to new drama! #scriptchat
9:05 pm             purelycarrie:             @yeah_write #scriptchat Snappy is hard work, and lots of rewriting to make it look effortless. #scriptchat >>> Hard work and thanks ...
9:05 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @JLichtenberg Execs are always on the hunt for good writers. As soon as you've proved yourself, you'll know. #scriptchat
9:05 pm             jeannevb:             thanks @dreamsgrafter for a great hostess job & @workswithwords for sharing the TV joy #scriptchat
9:06 pm             jbonnell:             Well, guess it's time to get ready for the oscar party. #scriptchat
9:06 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @DreamsGrafter: @JLichtenberg Execs are always on the hunt for good writers. As soon as you've proved yourself, you'll know. #scriptchat
9:06 pm             yeah_write:             Does anyone here write shorts? I know it's not TV, but hour is up. lol #scriptchat
9:06 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @yeah_write I hope you enjoy it. It's hardhitting but good drama in the vein of 'The Hurt Locker'. Pls let me know what u think. #scriptchat
9:06 pm             yeah_write:             Cheers! RT @jeannevb: thanks @dreamsgrafter for a great hostess job & @workswithwords for sharing the TV joy #scriptchat
9:06 pm             JLichtenberg:             RT @yeah_write: @scribe_diatribe Lots of learning going on this hour. #scriptchat
9:07 pm             WorksWithWords:             @thewritertype Amen! #scriptchat
9:07 pm             thewritertype:             @WorksWithWords Thank you kindly. #scriptchat.
9:07 pm             yeah_write:             @jbonnell I want to go to an Oscar party. :( #scriptchat
9:07 pm             DreamsGrafter:             You're welcome! RT @jeannevb thanks @dreamsgrafter for a great hostess job & @workswithwords for sharing the TV joy #scriptchat
9:07 pm             zacsanford:             Sorry I missed #scriptchat today. Had too many things to do before the Oscar party tonight.
9:07 pm             momentsoffilm:             Yeap! Cheers ladies! RT @jeannevb: thanks @dreamsgrafter for a great hostess job & @workswithwords for sharing the TV joy #scriptchat
9:07 pm             jbonnell:             Throw one! RT @yeah_write: @jbonnell I want to go to an Oscar party. :( #scriptchat
9:07 pm             purelycarrie:             @JLichtenberg Nice to meet you! #scriptchat
9:08 pm             Sofluid:             RT @jeannevb: thanks @dreamsgrafter for a great hostess job & @workswithwords for sharing the TV joy #scriptchat Ditto that! Thank you!
9:08 pm             DreamsGrafter:             How's @WorkWithWords doing? Lisa, you've been so great tonight. Thanks so much for your time and sharing your knowledge! #scriptchat
9:08 pm             scribe_diatribe:             @zacsanford Ooooh! get you! ;) #scriptchat
9:08 pm             momentsoffilm:             @yeah_write Yes I write shorts. You? #scriptchat
9:08 pm             marshbuttrue:             Thanks to all for an interesting discussion #scriptchat
9:08 pm             purelycarrie:             @DreamsGrafter What is your Oscar pick? #scriptchat
9:08 pm             jeannevb:             u better be tweeting tonight! #glush RT @zacsanford: Sorry I missed #scriptchat today. Had 2 many things to do before Oscar party tonight
9:09 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Thank you for accepting our invitation! :)) RT @WorksWithWords Thanks for having me! Good fun. #scriptchat
9:09 pm             zacsanford:             All you need is alcohol and ABC. RT @jbonnell Throw one! RT @yeah_write: I want to go to an Oscar party. :( #scriptchat
9:09 pm             DreamsGrafter:             And thanks to @Sofluid for introducing us to @WorksWithWords! #scriptchat
9:09 pm             WorksWithWords:             @DreamsGrafter Great! Thanks a lot for having me. Hope everyone has a good writing and GO HURT LOCKER!!! #scriptchat
9:09 pm             momentsoffilm:             Thanks all! Have a good Oscar night.. Statues or not though - You are all winners! #scriptchat
9:09 pm             zacsanford:             @jeannevb I'll try to #glush as much as possible tonight. Not sure how cell coverage will be where I'm at. #scriptchat
9:10 pm             yeah_write:             Got it. RT @zacsanford: All you need is alcohol and ABC. RT @jbonnell Throw one! RT @yeah_write: I want to go to an Oscar party. #scriptchat
9:10 pm             thewritertype:             @jbonnell there's still time to join CROC - Campaign to Recycle the Oscars; who should give theirs back? http://bit.ly/cEI8L6 #scriptchat
9:10 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @purelycarrie There's a few films I haven't seen like Last Station and Crazy Heart. But I would say The Hurt Locker over Avatar. #scriptchat
9:11 pm             jbonnell:             @WorksWithWords Still curious if C4, ITV, or even BBC will consider shows pitched from the US... #scriptchat
9:11 pm             yeah_write:             @WorksWithWords See you in UK next year. Working on the work visa and passport. lol #scriptchat
9:11 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @WorksWithWords Our pleasure. Truly. You were such a delight and I'm so impressed how you took it all in your stride. #scriptchat
9:11 pm             TheWrongWoman:             @bridgebldr Contact is one of the few films actually better than the novel. #writechat #scriptchat
9:12 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @WorksWithWords Please feel free to join in anytime. It was a real pleasure. #scriptchat
9:12 pm             jbonnell:             @DreamsGrafter Want to see Hurt Locker but NOTHING surprises me anymore. #scriptchat
9:12 pm             DreamsGrafter:             YEAHH!! RT @WorksWithWords: @DreamsGrafter Thanks a lot for having me. Hope everyone has a good writing and GO HURT LOCKER!!! #scriptchat
9:13 pm             jeannevb:             @zacsanford i'll have to #glush enuf for both of us. Hubby's playing hockey 2night so I'm free to #oscar #scriptchat till I drop ;)
9:13 pm             WorksWithWords:             @yeah_write Look me up whjen you get here! #scriptchat
9:13 pm             WorksWithWords:             @DreamsGrafter Will do! #scriptchat
9:13 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @purelycarrie What's your Oscar pick Carre? #scriptchat
9:13 pm             jeannevb:             to our #scriptchat #oscar party, baby RT @purelycarrie: @karenquah @jeannevb @kingisafink Hello ladies -- we are wearing velour?
9:14 pm             jbonnell:             OK, UP or D9 would surprise me in Best Picture. RT @jbonnell: @DreamsGrafter Want to see Hurt Locker but NOTHING surprises me... #scriptchat
9:14 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @WorksWithWords Cool. :) And thank you again! #scriptchat
9:15 pm             purelycarrie:             RT @jeannevb #scriptchat #oscar party, baby @kingisafink @karenquah Velour it is ... and the drink?
9:15 pm             jeannevb:             @yeah_write @zacsanford @jbonnell hey i found POM/kiwi juice to make tonight's martinis WOOT #scriptchat
9:15 pm             DreamsGrafter:             ENJOY!! :) RT @jeannevb: @zacsanford Hubby's playing hockey 2night so I'm free to #oscar #scriptchat till I drop ;)
9:16 pm             yeah_write:             Oh, yeah! RT @jeannevb: @yeah_write @zacsanford @jbonnell hey i found POM/kiwi juice to make tonight's martinis WOOT #scriptchat
9:16 pm             jeannevb:             if any #scriptchat peeps r around & want to talk adaptations, its going on now at #writechat. Let's bring novelists to the darkside! mwahaha
9:17 pm             karenquah:             @purelycarrie @jeannevb @kingisafink #scriptchat #oscar omg, will you let me have breakfast before you start cracking open the tequila? :)))
9:18 pm             jbonnell:             Ok, only 3 hours to get ready and get to the party on time... heading home. #scriptchat
9:20 pm             kingisafink:             @jeannevb #scriptchat #oscarparty Taffeta darling, taffeta.
9:20 pm             DreamsGrafter:             @jbonnell D9 and Serious Man would surprise me for Best Picture. I'd love Mo'nique to get Best Supporting. #scriptchat
9:23 pm             LifesizeLD:             There's no #scriptchat tonight, right? I mean, there's GOTTA be no #scriptchat tonight. Right?
9:24 pm             yeah_write:             Watching Oscars together. RT @LifesizeLD: There's no #scriptchat tonight, right? I mean, there's GOTTA be no #scriptchat tonight. Right?
9:24 pm             DreamsGrafter:             Have fun US #Scriptchat crew with the Oscars! Slam a tequilla one for me. ;) 

Monday, March 1, 2010

EURO #scriptchat Guest Speaker LISA HOLDSWORTH - Sunday, March 7th, 2010 8pm GMT


We are privileged to announce Screenwriter Lisa Holdsworth (@WorksWithWords) as our next Scriptchat Guest on Sunday 7th March, 2010. Lisa will only be available at our EURO timeslot, so please feel free to join us from the other side of the pond if you normally take part in the US chat. It's an open invitation to all!  (8pm GMT is 3pm EST)

#scriptchat TOPIC: How does TV writing differ from feature film? How do you break into writing for TV?


Lisa Holdsworth is originally from Leeds and has worked in television in the city since she graduated.  Lisa’s first commission was an episode of “Fat Friends” which she devised herself and was shortlisted for a Best New Writer BAFTA. Since then, she has written an original play for Radio 4 and spent three years on the Emmerdale writing team. She left to write for the BBC’s police drama “New Tricks” and has recently completed her eighth episode for series seven. She has written on four series of Waterloo Road including a feature length series opener. She also wrote two of the final series of Robin Hood; including the much-discussed “origins” episode. She currently has projects in development with several production companies and the BBC.

In an effort to have some order over the barrage of questions thrown at Lisa (and to save her API so she doesn’t get slammed in Twitter jail), we’ve decided to ask people to leave a question in the comment section below.

Here's how it'll work:

- Leave your questions in the comment section below days before the chat, and we will post them Q&A style on this blog before the chat begins (if possible, post them in 140 characters... including "RT @yourname:" so we may easily post them live at chat). 

We are keen to maintain the chat vibe which is the main appeal for #Scriptchat, so we aim to pick out 10 questions for Lisa to answer. We will make sure that these questions will cover the general interests of individuals. This will also mean that we will avoid repetition in the questions and have more room for spontaneous chat.

- Come to #scriptchat on 7th March, and we will have Lisa discuss some of the ideas raised in the Q&A as well as take a handful of follow-up questions.

Please also note the BBC Writing for Continuing Drama Q&A event that is taking place at The Drill Hall in London on Thursday 4th March from 6.00pm – 7.30pm. Tickets are free. All you have to do is email: writersroom.events@bbc.co.uk to put your name on the guestlist. For those who won’t be able to attend this event, Mina Zaher will write a follow-up blog post in anticipation for the Lisa’s TV Writing #scriptchat.

It would be great to give Lisa some time to prepare the answers so she can focus on engaging with tweeps on the night, so please don't hesitate to post yours questions. Get them down now!

Please, don’t forget to check the blog Q&A before the chat. So until 7th March! Good luck with your writing.