Great debate and tips on finding and using professional script consultants. Enjoy! @jeannevb
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USA scriptchat team: Jeanne Veillette Bowerman @jeannevb, Zac Sanford @zacsanford, Kim Garland @kim_garland, Jamie Livingston @authorjamie
Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK, talking Pros & Cons of Using Script Consultants
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Great debate on Twitter this week about the use of script consultants. What say all of you? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
I will be honest, I am a HUGE fan of getting pro feedback on my work, esp before u have a network of your own trusted readers #scriptchat
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
RT @jeannevb: It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK, talking Pros & Cons of Using Script Consultants
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@jeannevb I say if you don't have a network of associates to get notes from, then by all means use a consultant... #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
I have absolutely used consultants and even gotten 2nd opinions fr diff't ones after a rewrite #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
.@jeannevb And I would say even after. There’s something to be said for a stranger giving it to you straight. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
RT @UnkScreenwriter I say if you don't have a network of associates to get notes from, then by all means use a consultant... #scriptchat
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Ingrid Elkner
@IngridElkner
Good morning #scriptchat lunatics! Or good evening. What's the weather like in the US of A? Still crazy-hot?
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
YES! RT @jeffrichards And I would say even after. There’s something to be said for a stranger giving it to you straight. #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
Hello everyone. #scriptchat
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@jeannevb Meant to say... The trick is to FIND A GOOD ONE. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Gr8 quest... my answer coming... RT @LIScreenWriter @jeannevb How do you judge who is a good consultant and who isn't? #scriptchat
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Andy Silverman
@battyink
#scriptchat Not using consultants before submitting a script is like taking a pen to a gunfight.
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Shark Goddess,
@SharkGoddess
Hello ALL! #scriptchat
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@jeannevb @LIScreenWriter ASK AROUND! Get referrals. No different than finding an attorney. #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
@LIScreenWriter @jeannevb Or more specifically, how to find a good consultant for your voice and genre. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
A consultant shld NEVER ask for $$ to read ur script & get it into an exec's hands. That's bull #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
A consultant shld NEVER ask for $$ to read ur script & get it into an exec's hands. That's bull #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
A consultant shld NEVER ask for $$ to read ur script & get it into an exec's hands. That's bull #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
A consultant shld NEVER ask for $$ to read ur script & get it into an exec's hands. That's bull #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
A consultant shld NEVER ask for $$ to read ur script & get it into an exec's hands. That's bull #scriptchat
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Black Gold
@BlackGold_pilot
It's your money #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
AMEN RT @UnkScreenwriter @jeannevb @LIScreenWriter ASK AROUND! Get referrals. No different than finding an attorney. #scriptchat
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
I used a script consultant for my last short film. I needed someone to work closely w me & @scripteach lived up to his name! #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
What if you're not in the LA area? How do you research consultants online? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
If 1 says "give me $ & I'll get it read," it's a scam #scriptchat
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@Al_1701 This is a good a place to start as ANY. #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
@IngridElkner Hi! Still pretty damn hot in New York... #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@IngridElkner Cooled down to 75° in the Nation’s Capitol #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
It's more humid here in Detroit #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
It's more humid here in Detroit #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
#scriptchat I've heard of well known consultants, with good intentions, ruining scripts because they didn't "get it".
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
ALWAYS ask #scriptchat peeps if they've heard of someone or used them. You can trust this community to be honest.
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
ALWAYS ask #scriptchat peeps if they've heard of someone or used them. You can trust this community to be honest.
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
Does anybody in this #scriptchat agree with @clmazin that script consultants are a waste of money?
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Black Gold
@BlackGold_pilot
What about paying for coverage vs. paying for notes? #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@jeannevb There is a lawyer on FB who will send your script to a prodco for ±$600… with no guarantees other than delivery… #scriptchat
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
Good evening #scriptchat!
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
I don't agree RT @matthewkane Does anybody in this #scriptchat agree with @clmazin that script consultants are a waste of money?
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Ingrid Elkner
@IngridElkner
@dwacon I don't speak imperial system, I'll take your word that's hot ;) #scriptchat
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@byChrisPhillips I'd interview them no differently than an EMPLOYEE for a job. #scriptchat
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Michael E. Berg
@writtenbyberg
@jeannevb -- I'm all for it, if they have a reputation of providing honest feedback that's worth the cost. #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
Yeah. If you're writing science fiction for example, don't put it in the hands of someone who's clueless about sci-fi #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
Amen. “@jeannevb: A consultant shld NEVER ask for $$ to read ur script & get it into an exec's hands. That's bull #scriptchat”
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Karna Sakya
@KarnaSakya
@jeannevb Have u ever noticed any movie that tells a same story in reversed different format before n after interval? #scriptchat Pal movie
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
I look at feedback as way for me as a writer & the script to evolve. Constructive criticism is key. Tell me what to improve. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Hey all, sorry I'm late. #scriptchat
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Dave Bullis
@Dave_Bullis
@jeannevb Agreed Jeanne! Great tweet! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@nevadagrey, @dannymanus, @scripteach, @dimitridavis have all given me great advice #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@nevadagrey, @dannymanus, @scripteach, @dimitridavis have all given me great advice #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@nevadagrey, @dannymanus, @scripteach, @dimitridavis have all given me great advice #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Didn't see who asked it as the feed is fast, but no need to pay for coverage. You want notes/feedback/consulting. #scriptchat
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Dave Bullis
@Dave_Bullis
@kim_garland @ScripTeach Thanks for the info Kim! #ScriptChat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@IngridElkner 23.9° Celsius #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
The point of notes is to make your script the BEST it can be. Once it is, execs WILL read it w/o u getting scammed #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
The point of notes is to make your script the BEST it can be. Once it is, execs WILL read it w/o u getting scammed #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
The point of notes is to make your script the BEST it can be. Once it is, execs WILL read it w/o u getting scammed #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
RT @jeannevb: A consultant shld NEVER ask for $$ to read ur script & get it into an exec's hands. That's bull #scriptchat
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Brett Wean
@brettwean
I was lucky enough to find my mentor as she was *just* getting into consulting...so not someone who'd made a "business" of it #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@BlackGold_pilot theres NO reason for new writers to get coverage. Writers need notes & personal attention, not 1 pg summaries. #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
@dwacon About 74 F #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@Al_1701 Exactly. Out the box material that Producers already like, but consultants poo poo it. #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
@jeannevb Yes, fellow members of scriptchat are like Yelp for feedback on getting feedback. :) #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@andersscripted use #scriptchat hashtag so everyone can see your tweets :)
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
Yes, I def recommend RT @dave_bullis: @kim_garland @ScripTeach Thanks for the info Kim! #ScriptChat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
So do we have any consultants around to chime in? @dannyManus @starterscript #scriptchat
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Brett Wean
@brettwean
And it was totally through word of mouth...another actor/writer friend. I lucked out. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@liscreenwriter I've never paid $1000 for services #scriptchat #thatswhatshesaid
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
I've never personally used a consultant as I have several readers inside the system. If I didn't, I'd find one. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
We have some on our site scriptchat.com #scriptchat RT @kikibirdhinlo: @jeannevb Where do I find these free readers?
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
@jeannevb @LIScreenWriter - personally I think, from an indie perspective. This is an area where we can help each other out. #scriptchat
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Ingrid Elkner
@IngridElkner
@DannyManus I agree. A beginner writer should be workshopping in a group with other writers - not seeking pro coverage. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@dwacon I just threw up in my mouth #scriptchat
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
Good point, it's worth discussing dif btn notes & coverage. @dannymanus #scriptchat
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Dave Bullis
@Dave_Bullis
@kim_garland Thanks. We were eyeing to use @screenplayread and/or @scriptshark for a feature film script. #ScriptChat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
Which consultants have a good rep for comedy? #scriptchat
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Black Gold
@BlackGold_pilot
If you want free feedback ask me for an invite to #writerslab #scriptchat
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Black Gold
@BlackGold_pilot
If you want free feedback ask me for an invite to #writerslab #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@1nonlygene_rol Totally agree! @LIScreenWriter #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@byChrisPhillips @Al_1701 A good consultant knows how to nurture that great original voice into a more sellable direction. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
.@matthewkane brings up a good point. Ask a consultant what genre they specialize in before you hire 'em. #scriptchat
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Keith Martin
@CllrKeithMartin
#scriptchat do we mean script editor when we say script consultant? Is so they are vital and worth the money.
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
@jeannevb @LIScreenWriter - if a friend asks me to read their script, I do it. No questions asked. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Finding a consultant who fits your taste is like finding a therapist. Dont be afraid to try a few #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Some readers have a better grasp on certain genres, but overall, each one should be able to know if your story works as a whole. #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@zacsanford2 Would love to have Judd Apatow as my consultant... #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@dwacon I'm sure he'd cost WAY too much. #scriptchat
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Keith Martin
@CllrKeithMartin
#scriptchat but I only use for notes not to submit to producers. If they can put script in hands that's a bonus but not their job.
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
@dave_bullis Reach out to those in your network whose work you think highly of and see who they recommend. #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@zacsanford2 Okay, I’ll up my offer to THREE beers... #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@1NonlyGene_Rol I can't read everyone who asks anymore. Time issues. But I do have trusted group who exchange when we can. #scriptchat
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tman220
@tman220
anyone have someone they'd recommend? #scriptchat
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Dave Bullis
@Dave_Bullis
@kim_garland ;) Gotcha. #ScriptChat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
RT @tman220 anyone have someone they'd recommend? #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@DannyManus True. But you can have a consultant steer you in the wrong direction on your concept. #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
I'm grateful to have some fellow writers willing to read & give notes. Really helps to get another perspective from fresh eyes. #scriptchat
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Andy Silverman
@battyink
I think people tend to avoid feedback because they don't want to think their script needs more work. #scriptchat
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Andy Silverman
@battyink
I think people tend to avoid feedback because they don't want to think their script needs more work. #scriptchat
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A.K. Anders
@AndersScripted
@jeannevb Depends. Best one I ever used did it for lunch at the Chateau. Even with bottled water at $10 a pop, it was a deal! #scriptchat
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Dave Bullis
@Dave_Bullis
@blvarga Thx for the follow. #ScriptChat
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Anthony Perez
@FilmTony
A good consultant, at worst, is your average Hollywood reader. Might as well get their feedback before going to the gatekeepers #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@byChrisPhillips If a consultant steers you another way, it is because something isn't working in your concept. @dannymanus #scriptchat
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
@jeannevb - I realize, but I always chalk it up to the old adage, if you want to write scripts, you have to read em. Good & bad. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
That would be me #seriously ow.ly/mJDx1 RT @blvarga: @jeannevb I want to find a therapist for writers. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
That would be me #seriously ow.ly/mJDx1 RT @blvarga: @jeannevb I want to find a therapist for writers. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
That would be me #seriously ow.ly/mJDx1 RT @blvarga: @jeannevb I want to find a therapist for writers. #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
What's the most eye-opening note, piece of feedback anybody who worked with a consultant received, if you wouldn't mind sharing? #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
Is it a good idea to get feedback as your writing the script or only after it's complete? #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@zacsanford2 I know of examples where Producers were ready to buy on early draft, but consultant ruined it. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
I could never be a consultant as I tend to toss horrible scripts before the end. I'm not a #masochist #scriptchat
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
@battyink I think that's foolish. Who doesn't want to improve their script? #scriptchat
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
@battyink I think that's foolish. Who doesn't want to improve their script? #scriptchat
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Andy Silverman
@battyink
I need a tweet consultant #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@1nonlygene_rol I've learned just as much, if not more, fr reading bad scripts #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@byChrisPhillips If Producers are ready to buy, why is the writer going to a conusltant instead of taking ProdCo notes? #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
@battyink Watch, that will become "a thing" for high profile tweeters haha. Some celebs should have one! #scriptchat
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Brett Wean
@brettwean
@LIScreenWriter Not sure if she's taking new people right now, but here is her site: newwaywriter.com/index.php #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@kim_garland Diff betw notes & Coverage- Cov is written so NO ONE has to read ur script. Notes are so everyone will want to! #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@zacsanford2 Paranoia of wanting a well polished script... #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
I was a first round reader for a script contest. 95% of them should have used a consultant... :-/ #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
I was a first round reader for a script contest. 95% of them should have used a consultant... :-/ #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@jeannevb I always forget how do I get to the scriptchat page to see all convos? #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@byChrisPhillips But the Producer was on board already... Use the ProdCo notes. I don't get this situation at all. #scriptchat
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tman220
@tman220
what's an ideal price to pay for notes? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
RT @DannyManus Cov is written so NO ONE has to read ur script. Notes are so everyone will want to! #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@DannyManus twubs.com/scriptchat #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
Also feedback can’t replace creativity. It identifies problems in a script YOU have polished, and then YOU fix them. #scriptchat
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A.K. Anders
@AndersScripted
The 1 I like is an actor who also reads for Canada -- their version of the NEA; looking at things from an actor's POV was key. #scriptchat
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
Exactly! RT @dannymanus Diff btn notes & Coverage- Cov is written so NO ONE has to read script. Notes r so everyone will want to #scriptchat
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
I'll read anything @jeffrichards throws my way. If his articles are any indication, he probably writes a mean script. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@UnkScreenwriter *curtsy* #sideways #totally #scriptchat
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Paul Miller
@paul_miller1
@momentsoffilm did coverage for my partner's script as part of a crowdsourcing perk She did a great job. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
When I give notes, I point out what doesn't work for me. I hardly ever give fixes, as I don't want to write YOUR story. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
ow.ly/mJDJm RT @DannyManus @jeannevb I always forget how do I get to the scriptchat page to see all convos? #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@zacsanford2 Factor in subjectivity. I have gotten diametrically opposed reads on the same script... #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@zacsanford2 It was pitched to Producers who loved the concept. Consultant didn't and talked them out of it. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
What I like about consultants is they know the market, they know structure. I dont use anyone who wont keep it real & be brutal #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
I'll ask again. Is it a good idea to get consulting during the writing process or only after the first draft is complete? #scriptchat
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@jeannevb Good movie #sideways #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
The most important thing I want from notes is to find out what landed and what didn't. #scriptchat
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tman220
@tman220
anyone have experience using InkTip? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@UnkScreenwriter HAHA I hear it was even good upside down & backwards #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@dwacon Hence why it's always best to get multiple feedbacks if possible and see what notes are repeated. #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
@jeannevb So true, otherwise, what's the point really? :) #scriptchat
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
@zacsanford2 Same here. Dont want to tell u how to write MY version of ur script. Want to help u tell UR version as well as poss #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@Al_1701 I'd run concept by friends/colleagues. Get consulting after first draft. #scriptchat
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
Guilty “@battyink: I think people tend to avoid feedback because they don't want to think their script needs more work.” #scriptchat
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@Al_1701 I'd say after... Let the consultant see YOUR story. Don't let them help you create your story. #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@zacsanford2 I read a script on Zoetrope so horrible, I thought it had to be a Wayans style parody. It wasn’t… she was serious… #scriptchat
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Vivi Anna
@authorViviAnna
@Al_1701 after you are completely finished #scriptchat
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
@Al_1701 Isn't it all in the execution of the script? I say after the first draft. #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@tman220 Haven't used InkTip, but I help out on TriggerStreetLabs.com. Great place for free feedback. #scriptchat
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@jeannevb I'd have to give that a try to find out. LOL. #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
@zacsanford2 Yes, I'm a fan of multiple opinions on a note I may not be certain I agree with. I don't just blindly take all. #scriptchat
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tman220
@tman220
@byChrisPhillips thanks! #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
How much are people paying for notes? #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Remember, in the end, it is your story to tell. Consultants (or other feedback) is just to make it better. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Remember, in the end, it is your story to tell. Consultants (or other feedback) is just to make it better. #scriptchat
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tman220
@tman220
RT @matthewkane How much are people paying for notes? #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@tman220 TriggerStreetLabs dot com #scriptchat
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The Dark Knee Rises
@CityJohn
@UnkScreenwriter @jeannevb DM people! ;) #scriptchat
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A.K. Anders
@AndersScripted
@Al_1701 For me, before 3rd draft is $ wasted. Before 1st, the most they can do is talk concept, valuable but a diff animal #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@UnkScreenwriter just think of it as an adaptation... or a rewrite... or a juggling act #scriptchat
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VINCE CONSIDINE
@JAEL488
Constructive criticism is an important tool in the tool box you want the consultant to be honest and hard can't have onion skin #scriptchat
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
I will say this though, if you get notes and they piss you off, it's probably because they have *some* merit. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Problem with notes on places like TriggerStreet... it is just amateurs guiding the amateurs. #getwhatyoupayfor #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Problem with notes on places like TriggerStreet... it is just amateurs guiding the amateurs. #getwhatyoupayfor #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
First consultant I used was for a musical. First note was “You’ve got great songs. Too bad you didn’t write a good story.” #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
If you can’t take notes like that onboard without ego, screenwriting isn’t for you. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@dannymanus, now click on the thing under the SEND button that says "tweet as @DannyManus" #scriptchat
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Andy Silverman
@battyink
RT @1NonlyGene_Rol I will say this though, if you get notes and they piss you off, it's probably because they have *some* merit. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
THIS RT @jeffrichards If you can’t take notes like that onboard without ego, screenwriting isn’t for you. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
THIS RT @jeffrichards If you can’t take notes like that onboard without ego, screenwriting isn’t for you. #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
RT @dannymanus Coverage is written so NO ONE has to read script. Notes are so everyone will want to… #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Another advantage to getting script notes is getting used to producer's notes. Builds your tough skin. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Another advantage to getting script notes is getting used to producer's notes. Builds your tough skin. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Another advantage to getting script notes is getting used to producer's notes. Builds your tough skin. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Another advantage to getting script notes is getting used to producer's notes. Builds your tough skin. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Another advantage to getting script notes is getting used to producer's notes. Builds your tough skin. #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@Al_1701 I wait until several rewrites down the road... and then label that the first draft... #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
BINGO! RT @jeffrichards If you can’t take notes like that onboard without ego, screenwriting isn’t for you. #scriptchat
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@zacsanford2
BINGO! RT @jeffrichards If you can’t take notes like that onboard without ego, screenwriting isn’t for you. #scriptchat
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Write for Hollywood
@Write4Hollywood
"Like" me on Facebook facebook.com/WriteForHollyw… for exclusive updates and events! #screenwriting #screenplay #scriptchat #script
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John Shea
@rebelshea
I've never used a consultant but I do think feedback is vital. I get opinions from folks I trust, mostly writers and actors. #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
@dwacon @Al_1701 I agree. My "first draft" is the first of my drafts that doesn't embarrass me to show people. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@LIScreenWriter Best to use some type of feedback before going to managers. You only have one shot with them. #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@LIScreenWriter I have a number of agents/mngs who tell their clients to go to me first (or another consultant) #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@liscreenwriter you wont get a manager until you have a great script. #justsayin #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@LIScreenWriter I have a number of agents/mngs who tell their clients to go to me first (or another consultant) #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@LIScreenWriter Every Co keeps track of submissions. Double pass lands you on the "never read from this writer again" pile. #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
Not all writers can give good feedback. I’ve worked with GREAT consultants who aren’t great writers. #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@zacsanford2 G U L P ! ! ! #scriptchat
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
A friend tore a script apart, page by page. Let it sit for a week. When I picked it up again, I was like "Dammit, he's right." #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
@jeannevb That was educational aspect of Industry Insider Contest, getting notes from mentor. Learning to listen & address them. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
umm... where's MY refill? RT @dwacon @zacsanford2 G U L P ! ! ! #scriptchat
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E. Cedric
@EJCedric
Any thoughts on the "ask for feedback get feedback" syndrome? It seems reader feels obligated to give notes even if not needed #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
@jeffrichards I guess it's like the difference between coaches and players. #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@jeffrichards Writers can give good feedback, but you're submitting to EXECS! Not other writers. It's a diff mindset #scriptchat
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Brett Wean
@brettwean
@jeannevb So important to find someone who is brutally honest...but who likes your work, and isn't negative for its own sake. #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
@DannyManus Exactly. People need to work with consultants who approach it from a market standpoint. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@EJCedric I've never read a perfect script... even from the pros. Some come close, but there's always a thing or two. :) #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
YEP! RT @DannyManus Writers can give good feedback, but you're submitting to EXECS! Not other writers. It's a diff mindset #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@brettwean or who doesnt feel like they have to point out something just to point out something #scriptchat
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A.K. Anders
@AndersScripted
@matthewkane @dwacon @Al_1701 Same here. Everything before is just a super fluid working draft. #scriptchat
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Vivi Anna
@authorViviAnna
I love getting notes. It's one of my fave parts of the process. The opportunity to mine the gold #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@DannyManus Execs give notes like, “Why’d the buddy drive a nicer car than the lead? PASS!” — really happened to me like that! #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
You should ask if consultant specializes in an area, if they can help you get script out, what their background is & price. #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
.@EJCedric I’ve never read a script yet that couldn’t benefit from SOME feedback. :-) #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
.@EJCedric I’ve never read a script yet that couldn’t benefit from SOME feedback. :-) #scriptchat
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Scott Myers
@GoIntoTheStory
Short video interview: Travis Beacham & Guillermo del Toro, co-writers, "Pacific Rim" bit.ly/12cZ6CE #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
I usually need to give myself a little space to let notes marinate then come back at it and get to work. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@dwacon Honestly, that's just the exec pulling any excuse out. Trust me, we all do it. #scriptchat
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
building community is all important. Find the right people who will give you honest notes, as you will do for them - 1st step #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@dwacon Stupid execs give notes like that. Most give pretty valid notes. But connected to their company's mandate. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@dwacon Pass received: Cats aren't 4Q, dogs are. Boys and Girls like Dogs. Only Girls like cats. #scriptchat -- That's a BS pass.
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@zacsanford2 The old “It’s not you… it’s me” trick? COSTANZA!!! #scriptchat
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Brett Wean
@brettwean
@jeannevb Indeedy. Honesty (even when it hurts) is vital...but we're all surrounded by enough negativity as it is! #scriptchat
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Marian Evans
@devt
@Femme_Mal @BitchFlicks @BiatchPack @TheBlackBoard Yep. Maybe we shd have sthg like a #scriptchat time at moments like this?
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
@Cilly247 True. Finding the right person to read half of your script is key ;) #scriptchat
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Jeff Richards
@jeffrichards
I have to admit, though, the market-readiness vs. writing quality aspect of consulting is too dense for Twitter. #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
@zacsanford2 @dwacon Tell me who that was so I don't send the cat movie I'm writing now. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
So what does everyone look for in a good consultant, if you've used one before? #gettingbackontopic #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
My fave type of consult is actually brainstorming sessions done before a script is written/finished. At logline/treatment stage. #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@devt Indubitably! #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
I think it shouldn't be so much negative as constructive. "This sucks" doesn't help like "you can do better here and how" does. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@matthewkane Thing is, that's a "polite pass". It wasn't for them, so they found a small excuse. #scriptchat
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Andy Silverman
@battyink
You wouldn't go into court a lawyer in your corner, why go to an exec meeting without a consultant. #itwasntmeofficer #scriptchat
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nickyindurham
@nickyindurham
“@jeannevb: Just 10 min til #scriptchat... talking Pros & Cons of Using Script Consultants” @reverenderyk FYI
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Speaking of exec speak, @dannymanus wrote hysterical piece for @scriptmag! MUST READ ow.ly/mJEpf #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Speaking of exec speak, @dannymanus wrote hysterical piece for @scriptmag! MUST READ ow.ly/mJEpf #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
RT @jeannevb Speaking of exec speak, @dannymanus wrote hysterical piece for @scriptmag! MUST READ ow.ly/mJEpf #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@jeannevb Thanks, though apparently some did not have a sense of humor when reading it haha #scriptchat
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
@RWWFilm I more than made up for it 1.5 script plus brutally honest notes - I *think* we're still speaking ;) #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@DannyManus HAHA I spit out my coffee when I posted it! #scriptchat
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
RT @jeannevb: Speaking of exec speak, @dannymanus wrote hysterical piece for @scriptmag! MUST READ ow.ly/mJEpf #scriptchat
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A.K. Anders
@AndersScripted
@zacsanford2 Someone who doesn't get bogged down in details but can analyze big picture weaknesses. And no f-ing spitballing. #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
Just do your due diligence! Some consultants are pure academics, some are writers, some former execs, producers, managers, etc. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
FYI, If any of you have ideas for unscripted reality shows, chk out @jokeandbiago ow.ly/mJEuA #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@poodlepower My favorite notes: 3 pgs of praise, followed by “It’s not feature. It’s feature lite. PASS...” #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
I have a battle of the sexes type script. Had females read it to make sure we didn't piss 'em off. The boys were more offended. #scriptchat
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
If you do ask a writer friend for notes, don't argue w friend when you get notes. Ignore notes = no prob. But argue notes = lame #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@jeannevb I met @jokeandbiago at Cinequest a couple years ago. Very high quality professionals and nice peeps. #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
And your script should not cost as much as your car! If you're paying in the thousands for just notes, ur prob gettin ripped off #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Agree! RT @dwacon @jeannevb I met @jokeandbiago at Cinequest a couple years ago. Very high quality professionals and nice peeps. #scriptchat
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
Know what you're looking to get out of a consultant, and then find one w the right background to give it to you. #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
Exactly! RT @RWWFilm Know what ur looking to get out of a consultant, and then find one w the right background to give it to you #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@jeannevb @DannyManus Yes. Very funny post. #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
@kim_garland Unless they write, “Yo mama!” Then, it’s ON... #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
I give disclaimer I am BRUTALLY honest. Made a dude cry once, but he thanked me a few wks later after he read my full notes #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
@kim_garland Agreed! May be first impulse but being a gracious note receiver is important. Sit with it. If you disagree, ignore. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Sorry, got distracted. Have a movie on in the background called "Nude Nuns with Guns". #noconsultantneeded #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
There are bad consultants & scam artists out there that give the rest of us a bad name. I exposed 3 just last week on twitter! #scriptchat
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
@DannyManus Only probably? What's the most you've heard that a consultant charges? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Also, @RWWFilm has given me script advice. He totally kept it real. #appreciated #scriptchat
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@jeannevb I didn't actually CRY. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
.@ZackGutin and I called out a "consultant/Producer" who was fleecing writers. Threats of a lawsuit were muttered. #lamescammer #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@UnkScreenwriter HAHA yet #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
Good notes will touch on major aspects of the story, focus on whats wrong, diff options to fix it & how to make writing stronger #scriptchat
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
@jeannevb Only way to do it. And *wave* :) #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
20 minutes left... still chatting about script consultants. Get those questions in and maybe @dannymanus will answer. #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@Cilly247 Ive heard consultants charging upwards of $5K for script notes. Ridiculous! #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@Cilly247 Ive heard consultants charging upwards of $5K for script notes. Ridiculous! #scriptchat
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Alexis Adkins
@AlexisAdkins
There's also a difference between "reader" & consultant - sometimes you have to read closely to see which one you're talking to. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
This chat is going so fast, I haven't even had time to drink! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
This chat is going so fast, I haven't even had time to drink! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@RWWFilm *waves* #scriptchat
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Dimitri Davis
@DimitriDavis
#tragedy rt @jeannevb: This chat is going so fast, I haven't even had time to drink! #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@DannyManus Are you working with writers at the concept stage? #scriptchat
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
@sarahalexis4 Yes, if you don't understand note, then ask. If they don't understand your intent, that's script prob, don't argue #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
What's the value of a less expensive partial read, like first ten pages? Anything? #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
What's the value of a less expensive partial read, like first ten pages? Anything? #scriptchat
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VINCE CONSIDINE
@JAEL488
@DannyManus So how do we know who's scamming or bad? #scriptchat
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VINCE CONSIDINE
@JAEL488
@DannyManus So how do we know who's scamming or bad? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@DimitriDavis must remedy... *races to pitcher* #scriptchat
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
@DannyManus Criminal. I'm shocked but sadly not entirely surprised :( #scriptchat
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
Who would pay $5k for a reading? That might be what you get for selling it. #scriptchat
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Vivi Anna
@authorViviAnna
giving notes to someone is no excuse for being a jerk though. #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
I get the argument against consultants.But until A-List writers have time to mentor 250 writers a yr for free, consultants WORK! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Re: scamming, I ALWAYS ask fellow writers for references. I have never used someone I didn't check out first #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Re: scamming, I ALWAYS ask fellow writers for references. I have never used someone I didn't check out first #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
I am now VERY blessed to have mentors, but I would still use a consultant if I felt my work needed a fresh set of eyes #scriptchat
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
@authorViviAnna Very true. You can be honest and direct w/o crossing over into mean and spiteful #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@AlexisAdkins YES! This is a HUGE difference!! Readers JUST read. Most aren't trained to give notes & develop or pitch or sell. #scriptchat
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A.K. Anders
@AndersScripted
@jeannevb You'll have time to catch up later! #scriptchat
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Jodi Lustig
@The_Jodi
:) MT @matthewkane: @dwacon @Al_1701 I agree. My "1st draft" is the first of my drafts that doesn't embarrass me 2 show people. #scriptchat
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Black Gold
@BlackGold_pilot
-- @DannyManus @kim_garland not true, if you get great coverage from @MyTrackingBoard for example -- you're going to get read #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@byChrisPhillips Absoutely, I work with MANY writers at concept stage. I LOVE it! I'm like a story whisperer! haha #scriptchat
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
Sometimes you have to look past the specific suggestion of a note and discover the reason you're getting that note. #scriptchat
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Anna Hailey Casadei
@annaliterally
@zacsanford2 Had same script issue. Thought women would be offended, loved it; thought men would love it, they were offended. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@andersscripted I'll be drinking while grabbing the transcript ha #scriptchat
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Dwayne Conyers
@dwacon
#scriptchat Also beware the guy on FB selling a list of people who want to read your script. Likely compiled from Daily Variety...
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
@DannyManus Agreed. It's all well and good for A list established writers to say ppl outside HW shouldn't use a consultant #scriptchat
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Emon Hassan
@EmonHassan
It's v. funny! MT @jeannevb: Speaking of exec speak, @dannymanus wrote hysterical piece for @scriptmag! ow.ly/mJEpf #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@matthewkane Sure, I do first act consults to make sure script is on right path, has strong set up, connect to character, etc. #scriptchat
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@DannyManus That's great. I think most scripts are broken right at the concept stage. #scriptchat
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
Pros to using a script consultant: Someone will read your script... That's about it. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Twitter. They read my work & respected my writing, then kept helping. RT @liscreenwriter: @jeannevb How did you find a mentor? #scriptchat
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
Most consultants would rather be working as writers. #scriptchat
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
@dwacon Can you name the person on FB? #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Ugh, twubs froze on me... sorry if I missed some tweets. #scriptchat
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Paul Singleton
@Singleton_Paul
I agree (and I'm late). You don't need to pay someone to say your scene "sucks" or is "lame." You're their client. #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@BlackGold_pilot Maybe, but its not going to FIX whats wrong. Coverage from them or BL could be good AFTER working w/consultant #scriptchat
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Nikki Lee
@PinkChroma
Want to write my first tv series but have no idea how. I hear its different from features and shorts #scriptchat
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Dimitri Davis
@DimitriDavis
Lots of good notes on getting notes on #scriptchat tonight. Tune in if you haven't yet, read the transcript later at scriptchat.blogspot.com
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@EitanTheWriter God that is SO not true. It's a myth. Some really enjoy Development and helping other writers. #writermyths #scriptchat
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Jodi Lustig
@The_Jodi
!! RT @jeannevb: @andersscripted I'll be drinking while grabbing the transcript ha #scriptchat
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@JAEL488
@zacsanford2 or Naked Nuns with Guns was the reason #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
If you can't afford a consultant, exchange scripts w #scriptchat peeps, rewrite & save up for the pro notes b4 pitching
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
If you can't afford a consultant, exchange scripts w #scriptchat peeps, rewrite & save up for the pro notes b4 pitching
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@EitanTheWriter I know many who enjoy it far more than working as an exec/writer. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
If you can't afford a consultant, exchange scripts w #scriptchat peeps, rewrite & save up for the pro notes b4 pitching
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Popcorn Taxi
@Popcorn_Taxi
The 2013 INSITE Award for Unproduced Screenplays is accepting submissions until July 26. Submit here: awg.com.au/professional-d… #scriptchat
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The Black Board
@TheBlackBoard
You're also welcome at our Notes Exchange bit.ly/1d7SfvF RT @KikibirdHinlo @jeannevb Where do I find these free readers? #scriptchat
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
Working pro-writers don't use consultants. They have friends read if they need a second set of eyes. But trust themselves most. #scriptchat
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@RWWFilm
@DannyManus There's a special kind of fulfilment that comes from helping another writer fulfill their vision @EitanTheWriter #scriptchat
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Alexis Adkins
@AlexisAdkins
@DannyManus Also, are paid by mgrs/agents/execs by # of scripts read, won't read as thoroughly so notes/feedback will miss a lot #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@JAEL488 Wellllll... there is nudity currently on my screen... Big 'uns... not Big Guns. #offtopic #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@EitanTheWriter True, they are pros. But before they were pros, some used one, some didn't. #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@EitanTheWriter I have a stable of industry professionals who I read for/they read me. Never paid for a consultant myself. #scriptchat
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Kim Garland
@kim_garland
@blackgold_pilot Cov is an internal doc meant for execs, not to improve writers. some writers pay for cov not knowing the diff #scriptchat
41 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
If you ever doubt your premise, just remember, Naked and Afraid is a TV show. We do that every #scriptchat!
41 MINUTES AGO
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Dimitri Davis
@DimitriDavis
#outed rt @zacsanford2: I could never be a consultant as I tend to toss horrible scripts before the end. I'm not a #masochist #scriptchat
40 MINUTES AGO
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Brett Wean
@brettwean
@jeannevb: "This chat is going so fast, I haven't even had time to drink!" Have you tried using a straw? This is important! #scriptchat
40 MINUTES AGO
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Highazmarz
@Highazmarz_
#scriptchat do we mean script editor when we say script consultant? Is so they are vital and worth the money.
40 MINUTES AGO
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The Black Board
@TheBlackBoard
@matthewkane Good comedy notes? I haven't worked w/ Andrew Ellard/@ellardent but @glinner recommends him highly. #scriptchat
40 MINUTES AGO
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
@jeannevb I always think of what gets on television when I worry about my premise. "I can do better than that" I tell myself. #scriptchat
40 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
I'm going to poll my pro writer friends and see if any of them used pd consultants prior to hitting it #staytuned #JeanneBalls #scriptchat
40 MINUTES AGO
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@DimitriDavis I'm not alone in my tossing scripts out early. When I had to provide coverage I read completely. Now, Dif Story #scriptchat
39 MINUTES AGO
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@Highazmarz_ NO an editor is NOT the same thing as a consultant. Editors do grammar/typos, consultants do story/writing #scriptchat
39 MINUTES AGO
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Jodi Lustig
@The_Jodi
This may go on my wall! @jeannevb: If u ever doubt your premise, just remember, Naked and Afraid is a TV show. We do that every #scriptchat!
39 MINUTES AGO
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@Highazmarz_ Script Editor/Script Consultant are two totally different things. #scriptchat
39 MINUTES AGO
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Vivi Anna
@authorViviAnna
@PinkChroma you need to come to #TVWriterchat in half an hour #scriptchat
39 MINUTES AGO
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
@jeannevb Aaand we have a topic :) #scriptchat
39 MINUTES AGO
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Black Gold
@BlackGold_pilot
@kim_garland yeah, got to know whom you're paying (in terms of credentials) + what you're paying for #scriptchat
38 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@The_Jodi HAHA I shld make it a #PIMPtipoftheday #scriptchat
38 MINUTES AGO
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The Black Board
@TheBlackBoard
@jeannevb Likewise, so I try to say yes to notes on 10 pages when I can. Right now that's a good compromise for me. #scriptchat
38 MINUTES AGO
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
You have to know a good story when you see one. You shouldn't have to pay someone to tell you that you're right. #scriptchat
38 MINUTES AGO
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
Time to throw more ice on the ol' ankle before #tvwriterchat. Have a great night/week y'all. #scriptchat
38 MINUTES AGO
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Vivi Anna
@authorViviAnna
was cost already discussed? I came late. How much is too much to pay? #scriptchat
38 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@rwwfilm yes, indeedy #scriptchat
37 MINUTES AGO
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
I think I've pissed off enough people for today. #scriptchat
37 MINUTES AGO
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Dimitri Davis
@DimitriDavis
@zacsanford2 Oh, of course not. If I wasn't being paid for coverage, I wouldn't read most of the scripts I get to completion. #scriptchat
37 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@theblackboard not a bad idea #scriptchat #lessismore
37 MINUTES AGO
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@authorViviAnna @dannymanus said some consultants charge $5k and is a ridiculous amount. #scriptchat
37 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
congrats! :) RT @EitanTheWriter I think I've pissed off enough people for today. #scriptchat
37 MINUTES AGO
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
@EitanTheWriter Nope, didn't piss me off. I like the back and forth. But a good story well told can't always be seen on ur own. #scriptchat
37 MINUTES AGO
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@EitanTheWriter Well if most writers had that ability, the whole business would be different- but they don't! #scriptchat
36 MINUTES AGO
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@eitanthewriter It's like asking someone who isn't a doctor "does this mole look bad?" - How would they really KNOW for sure? #scriptchat
36 MINUTES AGO
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Jodi Lustig
@The_Jodi
Nah, we got thick writer skin!@EitanTheWriter #scriptchat #pleasepassthewine
35 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Reason we wanted to discuss this topic is bc we see ppl ripping writers off. CHOOSE WISELY & trust your gut! #scriptchat
35 MINUTES AGO
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
I'm glad @eitanTheWriter is here to give the opposition. Always a better chat than when everyone is "YES!! I AGREE 100%!!!" #scriptchat
35 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@DannyManus I've seen your mole. It looks bad. :) #scriptchat
35 MINUTES AGO
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CAMILLA
@Cilly247
@EitanTheWriter You've been enlightening #scriptchat
35 MINUTES AGO
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
@jeannevb Amputate #scriptchat
34 MINUTES AGO
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@LIScreenWriter It depends on what type of service you need/want. And how in-depth the notes are, how long relationship is #scriptchat
34 MINUTES AGO
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The Black Board
@TheBlackBoard
@Al_1701 David, I'd say ask for (free) feedback if you're stuck, but otherwise, take your script as far as you can before notes. #scriptchat
34 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@Al_1701 haha #scriptchat
34 MINUTES AGO
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Dimitri Davis
@DimitriDavis
I wish more writers could do that. rt @EitanTheWriter: You have to know a good story when you see one. #scriptchat
34 MINUTES AGO
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
I must admit, I know someone that has $5K consulting. She's an Indie Filmmaker. The $5K is for longterm work.#scriptchat
34 MINUTES AGO
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Script Magazine
@scriptmag
Don't miss @writersstore July 10th webinar How to Write a Screenplay in 10 Weeks w Marilyn Horowitz! ow.ly/mH6Wq #scriptchat
34 MINUTES AGO
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@jeannevb Haha, yeah, I'm a goner! #scriptchat
34 MINUTES AGO
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Heidi Norrod
@HeidiNorrod
OH and I've also been swatting mosquitos and lurking thru #scriptchat. I always lurk, never participate. :P
34 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Agreed. Always appreciate varying opinions RT @Cilly247 @EitanTheWriter You've been enlightening #scriptchat
33 MINUTES AGO
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Andy Silverman
@battyink
Nice chat tonight. Sat back for most of it. Still hungover at 6:00PM I blame tequila and social media #scriptchat
33 MINUTES AGO
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
And thanks to all who enjoyed the painful debate I went thru the last few days with a certain writer. But pls let it die lol #scriptchat
33 MINUTES AGO
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Zac Sanford (backup)
@zacsanford2
And one more thing to add. Some people have a good story... just not told commercially. And that's what matters #filmBizNotArt #scriptchat
33 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@DannyManus don't worry, Tux will bite it off :) #scriptchat
33 MINUTES AGO
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
Why are these webinars always when I work and cost a day's pay after tax? #scriptchat
33 MINUTES AGO
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
@DannyManus Enjoying the pain of other people is why we go to the movies. #scriptchat
33 MINUTES AGO
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Unknown Screenwriter
@UnkScreenwriter
@DannyManus Come on now... It wasn't that bad. LOL. #scriptchat
32 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@Al_1701 I'm working on getting both of those issues changed #scriptchat
32 MINUTES AGO
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@Al_1701 You just need to look for a coupon...:-) #scriptchat
32 MINUTES AGO
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A.K. Anders
@AndersScripted
@matthewkane Yeah -- this is a "thing" now. Would love to find out if there's any value at all.... #scriptchat
32 MINUTES AGO
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
Hope this has been fun. I gotta jet. If anyone has questions, feel free to tweet me!! Thanks @jeannevb I didnt lose my shit! LOL #scriptchat
31 MINUTES AGO
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Jodi Lustig
@The_Jodi
:::waving::: Hi Heidi!!! @HeidiNorrod #scriptchat
31 MINUTES AGO
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anniewood
@anniewood
I just became a member of the #scriptchat Twub. For live tweets, photos, videos and more, check out twubs.com/scriptchat
31 MINUTES AGO
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
@byChrisPhillips Doesn't help the fact I'm reconciling invoices at the time. #scriptchat
31 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Couple more min left & I just want to say how much I appreciate this community. #mynote #scriptchat
31 MINUTES AGO
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@DannyManus Thanks for the chat. Good stuff. #scriptchat
31 MINUTES AGO
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
@matthewkane Saying nothing about paying, but most execs will put a script down if they're not hooked in the first 10 pages. #scriptchat
31 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@DannyManus ya done good! #scriptchat
31 MINUTES AGO
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Christopher Phillips
@byChrisPhillips
@Al_1701 I think it's a PST thing. #scriptchat
30 MINUTES AGO
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
If anyone is in LA, I'm doing a FREE Logline/Query Letter workshop for @scriptwriter members July 20th! #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
If anyone is in LA, I'm doing a FREE Logline/Query Letter workshop for @scriptwriter members July 20th! #scriptchat
30 MINUTES AGO
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Jodi Lustig
@The_Jodi
Thanks!!! @DannyManus @jeannevb #scriptchat
30 MINUTES AGO
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
Hot! “@jeannevb: I am BRUTALLY honest. Made a dude cry once, but he thanked me a few wks later after he read my full notes ” #scriptchat
30 MINUTES AGO
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Scott Myers
@GoIntoTheStory
Screenwriting News (July 1-July 7, 2013) bit.ly/12cZHnZ #scriptchat #screenwriting
30 MINUTES AGO
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Andy Silverman
@battyink
@DannyManus thanks Danny. Very informative. #scriptchat
30 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Bewitching time is here. Thanks all for a great chat! I'm seriously going to try to find out about pro writers for #JeannesBalls #scriptchat
30 MINUTES AGO
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anniewood
@anniewood
oh... everyone is saying their goodbyes now. i'm late to the party? #scriptchat
30 MINUTES AGO
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
I live in Michigan, but I still work to 5. Making it 4 PT would help everyone I would think. #scriptchat
30 MINUTES AGO
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Jodi Lustig
@The_Jodi
What she said!! RT @jeannevb: Couple more min left & I just want to say how much I appreciate this community. #mynote #scriptchat
29 MINUTES AGO
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Vivi Anna
@authorViviAnna
@zacsanford2 good Lord 5K? I think not. I wouldn't go over $500 #scriptchat
29 MINUTES AGO
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
#scriptchat is always when I'm cooking dinner or fighting off my kids. I wish it was later.
28 MINUTES AGO
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Matthew Kane
@matthewkane
@anniewood Yeah, but I think @jeannevb still has some drinks left. #scriptchat
28 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@1NonlyGene_Rol he cried after email. I sent script w notes, specifics, emotional reaction, then he got it & appreciated #phew #scriptchat
28 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
*pours* RT @matthewkane @anniewood Yeah, but I think @jeannevb still has some drinks left. #scriptchat
28 MINUTES AGO
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Gene Rol
@1NonlyGene_Rol
@jeannevb - I've had people say a lot of things about my scripts, but no one has made me cry. #scriptchat
28 MINUTES AGO
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anniewood
@anniewood
vodka tonic, please. RT @jeannevb: *pours* RT @matthewkane @anniewood Yeah, but I think @jeannevb still has some drinks left. #scriptchat
28 MINUTES AGO
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Catherine Shefski
@cathyshefski
@jeannevb Thanks,,, this was great! #scriptchat
27 MINUTES AGO
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Jodi Lustig
@The_Jodi
Hic! RT @jeannevb: *pours* RT @matthewkane @anniewood Yeah, but I think @jeannevb still has some drinks left. #scriptchat
27 MINUTES AGO
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David A. Youngquist
@Al_1701
I'm ducking out for the week. Nice talking to you all. Have a good and productive week. #scriptchat
26 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@Al_1701 you too! #scriptchat
26 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@cathyshefski glad you popped in! #scriptchat
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anniewood
@anniewood
#scriptchat is trending! whoohoo! :) RT @matthewkane: @anniewood Yeah, but I think @jeannevb still has some drinks left. #scriptchat
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anniewood
@anniewood
#scriptchat is trending! whoohoo! :) RT @matthewkane: @anniewood Yeah, but I think @jeannevb still has some drinks left. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Dont miss next week when we have @jeffrichards guesting & @kim_garland moderating! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Dont miss next week when we have @jeffrichards guesting & @kim_garland moderating! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Dont miss next week when we have @jeffrichards guesting & @kim_garland moderating! #scriptchat
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Danny Manus
@DannyManus
@battyink Thanks guys!! #scriptchat
25 MINUTES AGO
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@anniewood they heard about the liquor #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman
@SarahAlexis4
RT @jeannevb: Dont miss next week when we have @jeffrichards guesting & @kim_garland moderating! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
Off to grab the transcript... have a great week, all! #scriptchat
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Lorna Suzuki
@LornaSuzuki
@jeannevb Just lurking in the background listening to chat! Very interesting! Thank you! #Scriptchat
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Kemar
@3kemar3978
I am now VERY blessed to have mentors, but I would still use a consultant if I felt my work needed a fresh set of eyes #scriptchat
24 MINUTES AGO
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ReadWatchWrite (BMJ)
@RWWFilm
@DannyManus Thanks, as always, for your time, Danny #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman
@jeannevb
@lornasuzuki you're welcome! Love our #scriptchat gang
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
#scriptchat Never really ends. Writers post to the hashtag all week long.
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Eitan
@EitanTheWriter
#scriptchat Never really ends. Writers post to the hashtag all week long.
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