Friday, December 25, 2009

Holiday GIVEAWAY 1.3.2010

#SCRIPTCHAT GIVEAWAY: Perfect your query letter w/ the help of @scriptdreric: http://bit.ly/7aW4ZT Join 1/3/10 chat to win!


ScriptChat welcomes Script Doctor Eric, @scriptdreric, to #scriptchat!  
At a random point during the January 3rd, 2010 chat, we'll be picking one lucky participant to win his expert query advice!


So don't miss our first #scriptchat of the year!

Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Holiday ScriptChat Event January 3, 2010

ScriptChat will be taking the night of December 27th off for the holidays, but have no fear; we’re giving you a special New Year’s treat! 

With great delight, we will return to ScriptChat Sunday, January 3, 2010 with a special guest tweeter... drumroll…  @GoldenAgeofGeek, Michael Lee.   It gets better… drumroll… Michael will be guesting at both our EURO and American timeslots!  Brave man.  He will be our first official guest "speaker," of which we hope will be a long string of great minds.  Since this format is a new experiment for us, we ask you bring a side of patience to go with your tequila.

#scriptchat TOPIC: how to make your script stand out and get read by the right people in industry. Contests vs direct queries.

As a freelance script reader for AEI, Fernlief, Samurai MK and various other production companies, Michael has seen the good, the bad and the ugly.  Perhaps he’s even seen your script if you entered any of these contests where he’s a script judge: PAGE Screenwriting Awards, Back in the Box Screenwriting Competition, Mammoth Mountain Film Festival or Gimme Credit Screenplay Competition.  Currently, Michael is represented by AEI, Atchity Entertainment International, with one screenplay and one novel making the rounds. 

In an effort to have some order over the barrage of questions thrown at him (and to save his API so he doesn’t get slammed in Twitter jail), we’ve decided to ask people to leave a question in the comment section below.

Here's how it'll work:
- Leave your questions in the comment section below days before the chat, and we will post them Q&A style on this blog before the chat begins (if possible, post them in 140 characters... including "RT @yourname:" so we may easily post them live at chat)
- Come to #scriptchat on January 3rd, and we'll have Michael discuss some of the ideas raised in the Q&A as well as take a  handful of follow-up questions.

Don’t worry, our normal chat feeling won’t be ruined.  Michael will still be taking questions in real-time, but if it’s one he’s already answered, the ScriptChat treefort founders will direct you to the blog.  We also expect you’ll eat up his answers with a ravenous passion and spew follow-up questions from your little fingers.

So, start beating your heads against your desks and come up with some thought-provoking questions to post below.  Let’s pick his brain until there are no cells left!

Please don’t wait until the last minute to post your questions or they may not get answered.  Also, please visit Michael's blog: Screenwriting Foxhole

See you on January 3rd!  Please, don’t forget to check the blog Q&A before the chat.




Sunday, December 20, 2009

ScriptChat 12.20.09 - The First 10 Pages

#scriptchat TOPIC: The First 10 Pages: What info must be included & conveyed and how to get the reader past p. 10

The crowd ran wild, as usual, and many new faces tonight… welcome!  Yet again, wthashtag transcript site failed me (at least they’re consistent, right?). So you are pained to read the transcript backwards.  Please scroll down for the EURO chat at the bottom and read backwards.  By the way, just because we label it “EURO” doesn’t mean Americans/Canadians or anyone can’t chat at that time slot too.  All are welcome at any time.  It’s the same topic at both chats.  The more that join, the more we learn.  Many of you do both chats already… and we thank you!  @jeannevb 


EURO Moderator 8pm GMT: @DreamsGrafter, Mina Zaher
American Moderator, 8pm EST: @jeannevb, Jeanne Veillette Bowerman


END AMERICAN CHAT:
quicksilverwest Gr8 meeting you @scriptdreric @zacsanford2 and #scriptchat scallywags! ... May the 1st 10 (pgs.) - Be With You! #scriptchat -9:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
GinySassenach @jeanneveillette thanks! #Scriptchat -9:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa #scriptchat Thanks everyone. Very interesting -9:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge @zacsanford2 Page count off in Celtx? I've not heard of this problem. Seems to translate fine for me...older versions maybe? #scriptchat -9:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @zacsanford2 Thanks for the giveaway Zac. Your are the best. #scriptchat -9:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeanneveillette @zacsanford2 excellent! Thanks so much Zac for providing yet another fun contest! #scriptchat -9:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
markezrastokes @zacsanford2: It IS a Merry Christmas after all! God bless us, everyone! THANKS! #scriptchat -9:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie Good #scriptchat, steelers win and I won a script. Only one thing could make today any better @zacsanford2 ;) g'night all #scriptchat -9:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptdreric Guess it's over. That was fun. Thanks! #scriptchat -9:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeanneveillette @GinySassenach www.scriptchat.blogspot.com #scriptchat -9:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @jeanneveillette All scripts have found their homes. #scriptchat -9:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeanneveillette I'll have transcript up either tonight or in the morning at www.scriptchat.blogspot.com I'll excessively pimp it, dont worry #scriptchat -9:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptdreric @markezrastokes Is that the premise of your next script? :) #scriptchat -9:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @PeteofAllTrades Thanks for joining us tonight. Look forward to seeing you next week. #scriptchat -9:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
GinySassenach Ok since I've come in late, I guess I need to read the blog and maybe add something next week. #Scriptchat -9:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 The I <3 Huckabees script goes to @markezrastokes. DM me at @zacsanford with your address. #scriptchat -9:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeanneveillette Thank u all for coming! Follow us at @scriptchat too for deets #scriptchat -9:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write 2 weeks. RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb Next week will be next year :) If Im not in a time warp or something #scriptchat -9:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger Off to see Avatar. Must make my own opinions. Until later folks. #scriptchat -9:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeanneveillette @jeannevb got locked out again for excessive tweeting... the over-talking wench #scriptchat -9:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @dawnbierschwal Good night. #scriptchat -9:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades thanks everybody. been fun. see ya next week #scriptchat -9:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb Next week will be next year :) If I'm not in a time warp or something #scriptchat -9:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @Alex_Carrick There is always the transcript on the blog at www.scriptchat.blogspot.com #scriptchat -9:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
markezrastokes @zacsanford2 How come we only ask ourselves the really big questions when something bad happens? #scriptchat -9:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD Night Tweeps! Time for din-din! #scriptchat -9:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @GinySassenach re: scriptchat transcript: " http://scriptchat.blogspot.com/ " #scriptchat -9:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @NugzyBogues For some reason the page count is always off on Celtx and when your script is 10 pages longer they might not shoot. #scriptchat -9:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptdreric @dawnbierschwal @quicksilverwest I did like Avatar. Obvious, but so well done. #scriptchat -9:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal OK, I've somehow managed to go past my hour without notice from the tribe... until now. Until next week... #scriptchat -9:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Alex_Carrick Sorry to have missed #scriptchat. We've been out too much lately or on computer. Feeling guilty re. kids. Needed to spend time with them. -9:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Hope you feel better & thanks for joining us. RT @SKCOMEDY: Good night, tweeps; I have to go and cough up my lungs now. #scriptchat -9:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 did u give away all the scripts? Want to be sure b4 I close the night out #scriptchat -9:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb ok peeps, I want to thank u all 4 joining in. Hope every1 walks away w some new thougths. Dont forget, same time nxt wk #scriptchat -9:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Okay, I still have I <3 Huckabees to give away. Let me know you like the movie by @ replying your favorite quote. #scriptchat -9:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell @zacsanford2 yeah, kinda a weird since last years @theblcklst many WEREN'T but got picked up afterward. #scriptchat -9:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @NugzyBogues For budgeting and scheduling purposes as FD and MM are the industry standars and page count can effect a go pic. #scriptchat -9:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Thanks for joining us. RT @SKCOMEDY: Good night, tweeps; I have to go and cough up my lungs now. #scriptchat -9:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @jbonnell I'm aware, but reading up on it I think it's going to stay in development for a loooong time #scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
u62 RT @2degreesofalie: The perfect comedic film - The Big Lebowski #scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb gotta love free RT @Philontilt: @jeannevb I do like! It has many features for script and pre-pro. And it's free. #scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC I haven't seen Avatar yet. Haven't left home since the snow hit. I'll see it only 2 be in the loop. I don't like too much FX #scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Donna_Carrick RT @SKCOMEDY: Good night, tweeps; I have to go and cough up my lungs now. #scriptchat /Take care! -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @zacsanford2 (500) pls! Yay! Thanks #scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
GinySassenach @zacsanford2 I would love (500) Days of Summer #Scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Donna_Carrick #scriptchat Twitter not working at all, so goodnight, folks. Sorry I missed the chat, but I'll be here next time. -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
 
zacsanford2 Actually almost every script on @theblcklst is in development or setup at a studio. Some even in production. #scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD Night, night. Have funny dreams. RT @SKCOMEDY: Good night, tweeps; I have to go and cough up my lungs now. #scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
GinySassenach @jeannevb How do you get a copy of what you're discussing? #Scriptchat -9:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @zacsanford2 why put it into final draft? when you turn it into a pdf it looks the same once u get F.D. start new projects #scriptchat -9:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @Galavantia psst RT @Philontilt: @jeannevb I'm all celtx! #scriptchat -9:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write That's harder than writing script RT @joshuadenney So you think you have a great script? How about a great synopsis? Get on that #scriptchat -9:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @eyamie You want a copy of (500) Days of Summer or I <3 Huckabees #scriptchat -9:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb yes, I've seen a few using that... u like? RT @Philontilt: @jeannevb I'm all celtx! #scriptchat -9:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell @eyamie Muppet man is already in development. #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY Good night, tweeps; I have to go and cough up my lungs now. #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Donna_Carrick Finally got to #scriptchat and now Twitter not working. Want to wish @jeannevb and all our friends Happy Holidays! -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @GinySassenach we're over an hr in but r discussing 1st 10 pgs... how to grab #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest re: V.O.s and/or dialogue. It's about the Writing. End. =) #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 I'm sure Henson Company will eventually make it. RT @eyamie: @zacsanford2 Think Muppet Man will get made? #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
joshuadenney So you think you have a great script? How about a great synopsis? Get on that ;) #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Celtx is free. Write and learn. And when you are ready, you can buy Final Draft or Movie Maker, etc. #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Galavantia #scriptchat O.K. I have Final Draft. It's all arrange, rearrange, read specs, rearrange... ; ) -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
philontilt @jeannevb I'm all celtx! #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC vo/narr can be awesome. sunset Boulevard, "I dreamed I went to Mandalay" (rebecca) #scriptchat -9:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptdreric They'll often tell writers not to use VO because sometimes newbies lean on it too much. #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @NugzyBogues @Galavantia be careful with Celtx. Good to learn on, but page count is always off when inputted into Final Draft. #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @zacsanford2: Anyone read any of @theblcklst scripts? If u havent & you can find a copy of The Muppet Man, its GREAT script #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest RT @dawnbierschwal: @scriptdreric Did you like Avatar? So far it seems most screenwriters are disappointed with it. #scriptchat #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @zacsanford2 Think Muppet Man will get made? #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
GinySassenach OK I'm in, what's the topic? #scriptchat #Scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell @zacsanford2 Got the whole list, juts haven't had time to sit down and read. #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @Galavantia try celtx...its free and looks just as good as final draft only drawbacks doesn't have templates of different shows #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @seanjsjourdan Thanks for joining us. Every Sunday at 8PM EST #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @SnarkTheReader: @jeannevb don't care if it begins w dialogue or narrative. It's got 2 keep me fr getting up out of my seat. #scriptchat -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Donna_Carrick RT @jeannevb: the VO in American Beauty worked well #scriptchat /What's VO Jeanne, Voice over? -9:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
cmhoughton RT @jeannevb: I loved the 1st 10 of the unproduced A Walk Among the Tombstones, brutal but it grabbed me. #scriptchat -9:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal @scriptdreric Did you like Avatar? So far it seems most screenwriters are disappointed with it. #scriptchat -9:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Anyone read any of @theblcklst scripts? If you haven't and you can find a copy of The Muppet Man, it is a GREAT script. #scriptchat -9:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Donna_Carrick RT @covermyscript: Can only tweet, can't receive. #scriptchat. /I'm having problems too. Sorry, folks. -9:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan Glad to be a part of this! #scriptchat Happy Holidaze -9:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @Galavantia no one hits here... we're drunk ha. Most ppl use Final Draft or Movie Magic #scriptchat -9:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
2degreesofalie @scriptdreric Election is awesome. Haven't seen Hot Fuzz. #scriptchat -9:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb LOL even worse east Texas, #scriptchat -9:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
markezrastokes @PeteofAllTrades: So what makes some VO work while most flops? Perhaps whether it actually contributes key PERSPECTIVE? #scriptchat -9:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
timesecrets RT @/PeteofAllTrades its about time management for most readers #scriptchat http://bit.ly/7IL375 -9:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb the VO in American Beauty worked well #scriptchat -9:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @llapen I will definitely have to write one and do it right #scriptchat -9:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Galavantia #scriptchat Anyone use script writing software....(I hate to ask don't want to be bludgeoned...) -9:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @PennyAsh u do? Do u live in Twin Peaks? #scriptchat -9:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Donna_Carrick #scriptchat Sorry @Alex_Carrick and I missed #scriptchat tonight. Movie night with the kids, just watched StarTrek.Great movie. -9:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write The hour is up, so if there is something you want to chat about, feel free. #scriptchat -9:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptdreric @2degreesofalie I'd say ELECTION and HOT FUZZ are more perfect comedies... #scriptchat -9:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan @SKCOMEDY essentially putting your work out there via twitter, fb, etc. and inviting feedback/criticism #scriptchat -9:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
JonathanLDavis Reading the trades will make you want to kill yourself. I bet you already know this but you still read the trades. #ScriptChat -9:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Donna_Carrick RT @SissiePoohSOD: well.. going 2 finish my book. see y'all later! :) #scriptchat //Night, Stephie. -9:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @scriptdreric re: first 10 pgs. does your script coverage include spec scripts or shooting scripts #scriptchat -9:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Once @eyamie answers my DM I'll give out the final script. #scriptchat -9:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @PeteofAllTrades I love VO, also the mc talking to the audience #scriptchat -9:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @2degreesofalie u squeal like a dolphin... who wldnt follow that? heehee #scriptchat -9:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
covermyscript Can only tweet, can't receive. #scriptchat. -9:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @GinySassenach Just log into tweetchat.com and come to the room. #scriptchat -9:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @GinySassenach You can go to tweetchat.com and enter in the #scriptchat hashtag to follow along. #scriptchat -9:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @SnarkTheReader anything else? Do u only read 10 pgs b4 u toss or will u suffer thru it all? #scriptchat -9:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
llapen Yes! RT @jeannevb haha RT @PennyAsh: I will say this, Fourth Kind made me want to write a proper ufo script it was so irritating #scriptchat -9:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades i think most of the BEST movies use VO... unfortunately soooo mnay of the bad ones do too #scriptchat -9:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD You're in it now! RT @GinySassenach: @Zacsanford Sorry missed #Scriptchat Would like to know more about it #Scriptchat . #scriptchat -9:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb I know several abductees, they were very upset over Fourth Kind #scriptchat -9:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @GinySassenach our website is www.scriptchat.blogspot.com Chk us out anytime! #scriptchat -9:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
2degreesofalie @jeannevb Awww shucks. #scriptchat -9:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptdreric re: VO - Just saw Avatar...Voice Over is back! #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY @seanjsjourdan What is crowdsourcing? #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb haha RT @PennyAsh: I will say this, Fourth Kind made me want to write a proper ufo script it was so irritating #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
GinySassenach @Zacsanford Sorry missed #Scriptchat Would like to know more about it #Scriptchat . -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @purelycarrie I try to start with an image that pulls the viewer in, something that says this is an adventure #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @shabanky re: dialogue vs. action. according to what's traded on set - use all tools you have at your "creative" disposal. #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @snarkthereader hates too much VO (prof script reader so listen up peeps) #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal Where? Where? I don't see her! RT @yeah_write: @covermyscript Hi, there you are! #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD Big baby. RT @SKCOMEDY: I cry when that happens, too. RT @jeannevb ur getting some good butt kissing tonight @SKCOMEDY #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @LifesizeLD Interesting. Not sure what is going on. I see her chats on her twitter page. Odd. #scriptchat -9:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DerrickDmx #scriptchat screenwriting takes work it can't be rushed -9:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh I will say this, Fourth Kind made me want to write a proper ufo script it was so irritating #scriptchat -9:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
markezrastokes @shabanky: I'm in Team Action, but action that implies some significant struggle with which the audience can relate. #scriptchat -9:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan Been crowdsourcing a feature script of mine @SissiePoohHD and it's been a hoot, recommend it as one possible avenue for feedback #scriptchat -9:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades DONT tell me in dialogue what the script is about #scriptchat -9:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @covermyscript Hi, there you are! #scriptchat -9:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Speaking of Commercial/Indie. Precious wouldn't be where it is without the names Oprah & Tyler Perry attached to it. #scriptchat -9:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @zacsanford2 Snark E. is posting in Tweetchat and getting a "posted" message but nothing's showing up. #scriptchat -9:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar @shabanky It's the balance between the two that best suits your story. #scriptchat -9:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @LifesizeLD Is the twitter profile protected? #scriptchat -9:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD well.. going 2 finish my book. see y'all later! :) #scriptchat -9:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY I cry when that happens, too. RT @jeannevb ur getting some good butt kissing tonight @SKCOMEDY : ) xo #scriptchat -9:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @SnarkTheReader we're talking 1st 10 pgs... I want to know what u HATE... this is ur chance to bitch at wirters #scriptchat -9:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptdreric Dustin Lance Black rewrites the first 10 pgs over and over and over and THEN does the rest. #scriptchat @rachlanger -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @shabanky its all dependent on the vibe of your script if its dialogue driven then go with dialogue try 2 find a happy medium #scriptchat -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @LifesizeLD I'll go in & see if I can RT @SnarkTheReader #scriptchat -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @UncompletedWork sending you Universal Healing! #scriptchat -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write So true. RT @joshuadenney: Be sure to remember your character names & spell them consistently, so you dont confuse the reader. #scriptchat -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Timsn I need to get going. Thanks for a great #scriptchat -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb UGH! RT @LifesizeLD: @jeannevb Snarkthereader is posting but her posts arent showing up! Help! #scriptchat -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 needs to add @scriptchat hash. RT @LifesizeLD: @jeannevb @Snarkthereader is posting but her posts arent showing up! Help! #scriptchat -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @UncompletedWork Share the Nyquil! #scriptchat -9:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @zacsanford2 too true. i am oft asked the Q. re: commercial value of scripts on set. your answer I also offer. - thanks =o) #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @LisaFromNYC: thanks. I'll be sure 2 check it out. :) #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @UncompletedWork wld be great! Do a post & I'll pimp it out to #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY @JonathanLDavis Thanks, Jonathan! (I cry when you have sex, as well) #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues RT @LisaFromNYC: @SissiePoohSOD triggerstreet is a good place to meet writers & get feedback #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @SissiePoohSOD We love having you here. Glad you learn from the chat. #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb i am plzed when i see 1 person learning a new nugget ea wk #warmglow #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
covermyscript #scriptchat I know by the end of the first page if the script is good. If nothing happens by 10, I'm out. -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
shabanky What's the best way to grab attention in the 1st 10? Dialouge or Action? Both? More of 1 then the other? #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @jeannevb Snarkthereader is posting but her posts aren't showing up! Help! #scriptchat -9:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
UncompletedWork .@zacsanford2 excellent topic But there is too much Nyquil rushing through me. Perhaps I'll write an article about it and share. #Scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @UncompletedWork hope u feel better soon #scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger So we've established that the first 10 pages is make or break time, and the first page is the most important. First impressions #scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 A former co-worker of mine just took the @SKComedy course and gained a lot of helpful insight. #scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC @SissiePoohSOD triggerstreet is a good place to meet writers & get feedback #scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write roflol RT @jeannevb: @JonathanLDavis u actually get paid? where is this mythical land in which u live? #scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb ur getting some good butt kissing tonight @SKCOMEDY : ) xo #scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge From a horror perspective, check out the new Friday the 13th for a solid first 10 pages #scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
joshuadenney Be sure to remember your character names & spell them consistently, so you don't confuse the reader. #scriptchat -9:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD this has been amazing, as always. I love coming 2 #scriptchat, 'cause I learn something new. #scriptchat -9:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 RT @JonathanLDavis: My friend @RobMckkittrick and I are pd writers. We both got a lot out of @SKCOMEDY workshop. Refresh tools. #scriptchat -9:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write RT @JonathanLDavis: My friend @RobMckkittrick and I are paid writers. We both got a lot out of @SKCOMEDY workshop. Refresh tools #scriptchat -9:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 -RT @tweetamar: @CTK1 @iamkhayyam #scriptchat that was the most eclectic tweet I've seen in a while. Right up there w/David Bowie's Nipples! -9:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD RT @JonathanLDavis: My friend @RobMckkittrick and I are pd writers. We both got a lot out of @SKCOMEDY workshop. Refresh tools. #scriptchat -9:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @JonathanLDavis u actually get paid? where is this mythical land in which u live? #scriptchat -9:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb @zacsanford2 Great :) 3 for 3, I'll just describe the action #scriptchat -9:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @quicksilverwest Even in indie films you have to know who your audience is and write for that demo. #scriptchat -9:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @NugzyBogues: that makes sense. I figure after that 10th polish, that's enough. then, I put it away and go to something else. #scriptchat -9:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jbonnell Thanks, I'll do that #scriptchat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
JonathanLDavis My friend @RobMckkittrick and I are paid writers. We both got a lot out of @SKCOMEDY workshop. Refresh tools. #ScriptChat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write RT @jeannevb: I want to formally welcome a cpl peeps who r personal friends of mine @PeteofAllTrades & @2degreesofalie...follow #scriptchat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @UncompletedWork Hope you feel better. We were talking the first 10 pages and their importance. Wanted another reader opinion #scriptchat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
UncompletedWork Hey #Scriptchat, I missed the topic. I have a cold running it's course. Catch me up -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jmiewald I only write what I would pay to see... but I have weird tastes #scriptchat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @PennyAsh You should always describe the scene or action, not just write in CGI. #scriptchat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @PennyAsh I dont write that kind of stuff but been told u shldnt do the director's job... just stick to telling the story #scriptchat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest for @zacsanford2 re: @yeah_write's @dawnbierschwal's thoughts re: commercial scripts - any views on the idea? #scriptchat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @SissiePoohSOD a script should never go through more than 10 full rewrites (not polishes) #scriptchat -9:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades Thanks so much #scriptchat -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @NugzyBogues: thanks. just need 2 find some writers who will b honest w/me and help me b a better writer. #scriptchat -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write RT @LifesizeLD read for a couple competitions in town and, well, yowsa! Lets hope more entrants attend scriptchat from now on! #scriptchat -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell @PennyAsh I'd let the director figure out if he wants CGI or not. Just describe it. #scriptchat -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @quicksilverwest Because they've demonstrated they know how to hook a reader in 10 pages!!(or they golf with somebody) #scriptchat -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
UncompletedWork RT @zacsanford2: amazed we're having this topic and @uncompletedwork @covermyscript aren't here. #scriptchat [Sick in bed, What did I miss?] -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb I want to formally welcome a cpl peeps who r personal friends of mine @PeteofAllTrades & @2degreesofalie... u shld all follow #scriptchat -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades @jeannevb yeah i read it, but if good friends have trouble getting a readers time... #scriptchat -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 I wonder if some writers would even pay to see their own movie on the big screen had they not written it themselves. #scriptchat -9:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Tweetamar @CTK1 @iamkhayyam #scriptchat that was probably the most eclectic tweet I've seen in a while. Right up there with David Bowie's Nipples! -8:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb I got a Q, when you have a spot where you need CGI do you describe the effect or just put CGI? #scriptchat -8:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC One of my fav comedies is "bird cage". #scriptchat -8:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @SissiePoohSOD you should definitely have friends read your scripts or other writers than and take a break from it #scriptchat -8:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD I've learned quite a bit about the 1st 10 pages, and I thank you all 4 all the advice & info. #scriptchat -8:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan RT @LifesizeLD read for a couple competitions in town and, well, yowsa! Let's hope more entrants attend scriptchat from now on! #scriptchat -8:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal Commercial to me means people will pay to see. RT @yeah_write: @zacsanford2 Is commercial that important? Indy is good too. #scriptchat -8:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb: @NugzyBogues Its about paying if forward, I try to be tough but fair #scriptchat -8:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @PeteofAllTrades totally.... but u still do it, right? #scriptchat -8:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 I was off Twitter for awhile, came back and discussed: The erroneous idea of needing Big Penis. @iamkhayyam's vast vocabulary. & #ScriptChat -8:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @eyamie re: specs sold and 1st 10 pgs:"specs" accepted by writers w/ more of track record. [from Dev. Exec I met last week] #scriptchat -8:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb does every1 feel comf about their 1st 10 knowledge? Anything u still need clarity on? #scriptchat -8:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptdreric @JonathanLDavis Indeed. Also, have your friends/readers mark when they laughed, as well as what doesn't work. #ScriptChat -8:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @LifesizeLD I just had to read 15 pages of 5 ms for a contest. I could only get past page 5 on 2 of them. #scriptchat -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @zacsanford2: If you can, join a writers group. Those people will be honest and rip your first 10 pages to shreds! #scriptchat -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar @2degreesofalie a great comedic film is MATANDO CABOS. Well, if you don't mind subtitles and over the top movies #scriptchat -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb before we wind down the hour, PLZ check my #scriptchat list to be sure ur on it. If not, @ me http://bit.ly/4BexST -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @NugzyBogues: that's my problem. I'm constantly rewriting & there are times when I get a bit carried away with it. #scriptchat -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @zacsanford2 Is commercial that important? Indy is good too. #scriptchat -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 If you can, join a writers group. Those people will be honest and rip your first 10 pages to shreds! #scriptchat -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal Have wondered abotu that. RT @zacsanford2: Most of what rises to the top of screenplay contests isnt commercial though. #scriptchat -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD Or tolerance level! RT @PeteofAllTrades: its about time management for most readers #scriptchat -8:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb: @NugzyBogues It's about paying if forward, I try to be tough but fair #scriptchat -8:56 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell @NugzyBogues O, when you see typos on page 1 you kinda get a hint. Not that there isn't gud stuff sub'ted to fests, just little. #scriptchat -8:56 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @snarkthereader where are you?? Come out, come out wherever you are! #scriptchat -8:56 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @SissiePoohSOD thats only a problem if you never know when to stop rewriting! #scriptchat -8:56 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades its about time management for most readers #scriptchat -8:56 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb I NEVER lie about what I like... I loved urs : ) RT @yeah_write: @jeannevb I hope I'm not included in those. #scriptchat -8:56 PM Dec 20th, 2009
 
2degreesofalie The perfect comedic film - The Big Lebowski #scriptchat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades @jeannevb i think thats pretty true. even if a close friend asks me to read something, its tough to get it read sometimes. #scriptchat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Since we're almost done with the topic, most of what rises to the top of screenplay contests isn't commercial though. #scriptchat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 treehugger : ) xo @LifesizeLD #scriptchat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
JonathanLDavis After rereading your script countless times, funny jokes might not seem as funny. Make a note of the ones that worked. #ScriptChat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD I read for a couple competitions in town and, well, yowsa! Let's hope more entrants attend scriptchat from now on! #scriptchat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa @SKCOMEDY Touché Monsieur! #scriptchat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @jbonnell I jsut threw up in my mouth haha #scriptchat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 DELETE button, I save trees RT @jeannevb: @LifesizeLD @zacsanford2 I only assume if i dont grab them, its going in the trash can #scriptchat -8:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @NugzyBogues: my problem is I'm way too critical of my writing. #scriptchat -8:54 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @NugzyBogues I read it, even if its bad, if a fellow writer asks for my feedback. Its about giving back & helping some1 #scriptchat -8:54 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jbonnell Works the same in the annual writer's awards too, you read a ton of crap to find one gem #scriptchat -8:54 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Agreed, reading for a screenplay contest is one of the hardest things to do as many read one book and try to win like the lotto. #scriptchat -8:54 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @jeannevb I hope I'm not included in those. #scriptchat -8:54 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @LifesizeLD @zacsanford2 I only assume if i dont grab them, its going in the trash can #scriptchat -8:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @SKCOMEDY If you exhale on your keyboard you could keep reinfecting yourself for YEARS!! #scriptchat -8:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
llapen @naultpullar @dawnbierschwal I agree. #scriptchat -8:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @jbonnell some people dont know whats good! they dont know how to be a critic of their own stuff #scriptchat -8:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @jeannevb Compare 90% of triggerstreet scripts to specs that sold, first 10 is one of several differences I think #scriptchat -8:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @jeannevb re: "the first 10." one prob i see w/ shooting scripts while on set - the 10: too S-L-O-W w/ da "Hook." [Prod.'s Call] #scriptchat -8:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 The next script giveaway will be after the one hour mark. Won't tell you when :) #scriptchat -8:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY No, I'm just a voice over. RT @Ludovicaa @SKCOMEDY Id be entertained to see how you type w/o breathing are you a ghost writer? #scriptchat -8:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @SissiePoohSOD Just the few seconds of the trailer I saw hooked me. #scriptchat -8:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger @zacsanford2 I love that you do contests! Thanks for that. #scriptchat -8:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @jeannevb very true, but why read a terrible script? unless you're forced to #scriptchat -8:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell @jeannevb You wanna see TONS that never get good, read for a festival. You'd think people PAYING would submit something good. #scriptchat -8:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 Yes! @MyPDFScripts too! Was looking for that name when u tweeted it : ) #scriptchat -8:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa @LifesizeLD your plea for the voddy! #scriptchat -8:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh Yooohooo RT @jeannevb: calling @scriptcollector : ) RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb Ah I need to get UP :) and Area 51 #scriptchat -8:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 It's just a random selection where I selected different times to give a script away and choose one person at random. #scriptchat -8:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @NugzyBogues believe me, i've read many & had to give feedback.... not fun, but I do it so writer can learn....& I can learn #scriptchat -8:51 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa @SKCOMEDY Id be entertained to see how you type w/o breathing are you a ghost writer? #scriptchat -8:51 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @NugzyBogues when u read spec scripts, there are TONS that never get good... no matter how many pgs u give em #scriptchat -8:51 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 And @MyPDFScripts RT @jeannevb: U shld all follow @scriptcollector for tons of scripts.... great learning tool #scriptchat -8:51 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
markezrastokes RT @CTK1: The easiest way to fail is by thinking your stuff is genius. Wait until you make 2dollars before thinking that. #ScriptChat -8:51 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @zacsanford2 How does one enter this contest of yours? #scriptchat -8:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write RT @JonathanLDavis: Comedy is the most collaborative of the genres. Find frnds u can trust who will tell u what is & isnt funny #scriptchat -8:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD Writer should never assume! RT @zacsanford2: @jeannevb Im the nice reader and give the writer a little more wiggle room. #scriptchat -8:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal @llapen I see hook as different than reveal. #scriptchat -8:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar @llapen but most scripts have the inciting incident within the first ten. hopefully the story isn't solved within 20 #scriptchat -8:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb YES YES.... *whip cracks* RT @LifesizeLD: @snarkthereader get in here!!! #scriptchat -8:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb U shld all follow @scriptcollector for tons of scripts.... great learning tool #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @PennyAsh: Up is an example of wonderful storytelling. from the 1st moments, you're immediately engaged. #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge 100% in agreement vis a vis Marilyn @SKCOMEDY #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Congrats to @eyamie, the winner of the 3rd screenplay book. Once the two other winners pick, you'll have your choice of scripts. #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb calling @scriptcollector : ) RT @PennyAsh: @jeannevb Ah I need to get UP :) and Area 51 #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @snarkthereader get in here!!! #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
JonathanLDavis Comedy is the most collaborative of the genres. Find friends you can trust who will tell u what is and isn't funny. #ScriptChat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @LifesizeLD @zacsanford2 re: drawing readers in 1st pg. AMEN! #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
llapen some scripts do take more than 10 pgs to get to the reveal, tho. In some cases this can be very rewarding. i.e., Lust, Caution #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @jeannevb then again, I'm the nice reader and give the writer a little more wiggle room. #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 ah, good to know #scriptchat -8:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @jeannevb you never suffer through!!! there isnt 1 good script out there that isnt good by page 20 #scriptchat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb Ah I need to get UP :) and Area 51 #scriptchat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 The easiest way to fail is by thinking your stuff is genius. Wait until you make 2dollars before thinking that. #ScriptChat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge Tragedy: when I cut my finger. Comedy: when u fall in an open sewer & die-Mel Brooks RT @eyamie @SKCOMEDY No, that's tragedy. #scriptchat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 I'm amazed we're having this topic and @uncompletedwork and @covermyscript aren't here. #scriptchat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Timsn Ok agreed about Some Like it Hot. BTW amazing first 10 #scriptchat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @LifesizeLD: Theres something about a great first page that makes me feel secure that its going to be a good read. #scriptchat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades 5th element does a great job setting up the MC goal without featuring the MC. lots of good mystery, w/o lacking clarity #scriptchat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @jeannevb I have a 20/10 rule. If you don't have me sold by page 20, I read the last ten and you MAY be saved. #scriptchat -8:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
ThelemicWaves @CTK1 Sometimes comedy is really subtle. #ScriptChat http://blip.fm/~i3mk8 -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest RT @SissiePoohSOD: so, make sure the "oh crap" moment is introduced early on, then. #scriptchat <-- Bingo!! =) #scriptchat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @yeah_write: it is, but I think my story's going in the direction I want it to go. #scriptchat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @zacsanford2 drawing them in on page 1 is phenomenal but the story NEEDS to be apparent by page 20 and its even better within 10 #scriptchat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb If ANY of our peeps know script readers, PLZ @ them to join in... this is the perfect topic for them to bitch at us #scriptchat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY You don't have to breathe to type. @LifesizeLD RT @SKCOMEDY How you feeling? #scriptchat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD There's something about a great first page that makes me feel secure that it's going to be a good read. #scriptchat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 Give 1st 10 of script to a child &see what they glean from it. Kids are smart. If they ask, "Huh" then you may be out to lunch. #ScriptChat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal A shame if reader already put it down. RT @LaStPeAcEoFmInD: @dawnbierschwal what if the good stuff starts on page 11? :D #scriptchat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 will u put it down after 20 or suffer thru? #scriptchat -8:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY Also, Marilyn is pure pathos, plus sex. RT @TravisLegge Some Like it Hot=protagonist's inner fight. Pathos. #scriptchat -8:46 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @SKCOMEDY No, that's tragedy. #scriptchat -8:46 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @SKCOMEDY How you feeling? #scriptchat -8:46 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @SissiePoohSOD It's sometimes a gut instinct that your story is going in the right direction. #scriptchat -8:46 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD so, make sure the "oh crap" moment is introduced early on, then. #scriptchat -8:46 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @jbonnell re: fooling the reader: exactly jb! switch up the "hook!" #scriptchat -8:46 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb I thought Zombieland was good & Close Encounters :) Love that movie #scriptchat -8:46 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @CTK1 I agree with everything you're saying. Especially to grab the reader by page one. I'm nice and give 20, but know by page 5 #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb 1st 10 also show reader if u can write... not just about story. If u write well, they'll want more #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
tylerweaver @jeannevb "Children of Men," "Sunset Blvd," "Heat," and I'm sure I'll think of more #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
davidspies RT @tylerweaver I like to throw an audience headfirst into the deep end of new world. See if they can swim in the 1st 10. #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY Now THAT'S comedy! @JonathanLDavis I cry uncontrollably after I have sex. And during. And before. Wait, wrong discussion group? #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest @jbonnell re: the "moment." the hook is oft not powerful enough. get your "Oh Crap" moment in faster. Will propel characters =o) #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC I'm back and fell behind quick. lol #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb havent read either *scribbles on list* RT @eyamie: @jeannevb Haven't read Up yet, but the first 10 mins slay me. #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @jbonnell That's playing on convention. Good points #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
llapen @jeannevb believe it or not: John Woo's "The Killer" had a great first ten pages #scriptchat -8:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb (1st 10 he likes ) RT @NugzyBogues: @jeannevb #scriptchat Good Will Hunting The Matrix American Beauty The Prestige -8:44 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell Because then you've hooked them and will further hook them with the change up. I love reading something that legitimately fools. #scriptchat -8:44 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 If you don't have a famous uncle or some crap in the biz, it's imperative that you deliver & fast. 1st page would be advisable. #ScriptChat -8:44 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues RT @CTK1 There are a zillion hack scripts out there and only a few jewels. The gems hit you fast in first 3-5 pages. So buck up. #ScriptChat -8:44 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD well, I seem to be on the right track. my protag & antag were introduced in the 1st 10 pgs. along w/their journey. #scriptchat -8:44 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @llapen Come on in! That chattin's fine! #scriptchat -8:44 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 RT @CTK1: There are a zillion hack scripts out there and only a few jewels. The gems hit you fast in first 3-5 pages. So buck up #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal I want to know what I'm rooting for in first 10 Pages. You lose me otherwise (aka Men Who Stare at Goats). #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades @NugzyBogues those are all great examples #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb when I ask ppl to read my work, I always say scribble in margin WHERE they felt hooked & cldnt put it down...then rewrite 2 late #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @yeah_write Like to give my characters several OSMs :) #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @jeannevb Haven't read Up yet, but the first 10 mins slay me. #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell ...all the better for it NOT to be. #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell My definition: first 10 is where you want them to THINK you've introduced the moment, but doesn't have to be. In fact I'd say.. #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @ctk1 I do start my rewrite process based on whether/where I hooked them in... if I failed to do it soon enuf #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge i never saw Used Cars #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 There are a zillion hack scripts out there and only a few jewels. The gems hit you fast in first 3-5 pages. So buck up. #ScriptChat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
llapen crazy late, but going to see what is going on over at #scriptchat -8:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD End of first 10 I want to know: Protag, Antag, story, and be compelled to take this journey with 'em. Not much! ;-) #scriptchat -8:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues @jeannevb #scriptchat Good Will Hunting The Matrix American Beauty The Prestige -8:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb I'd suggest going thru the pile of prod scripts u have & just reading a few beginnings in a new light #scriptchat -8:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades i was gonna hold office space as a great example of a great first ten #scriptchat -8:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
JonathanLDavis I cry uncontrollably after I have sex. And during. And before. Wait, is this the wrong discussion group? #scriptchat -8:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh Personally I like to grab my reader in the fist 30 seconds if I can, then take them on a rollercoaster ride #scriptchat -8:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @pig_pen Welcome! We're talking first 10! Jump on in. #scriptchat -8:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @pig_pen we're talking 1st 10 pages... how to hook & keep em wanting more #scriptchat -8:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell @quicksilverwest I'd say first 10 is just about the hook, not the oh, sh*t moment. Now if that hook is the OSM, that's cool. #scriptchat -8:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 The only thing I can say about the 1st 10 pages of a script is that if the gist of your story isn't in the 1st 5, REWRITE. #ScriptChat -8:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb so what r some of ur favorite scripts w great 1st 10? #scriptchat -8:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @rachlanger: oh, thank you! :) #scriptchat -8:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD Yeah - what's the contest? RT @rachlanger: @SissiePoohSOD congrats! @zacsanford2 Is this a seekrit contest? #scriptchat -8:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write RT @quicksilverwest: hi all! re: 1st 10 pgs. : its sometimes referred to as [time frame to introduce the "Oh Sh**" moment] =) #scriptchat -8:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD Hey! Good to see you here! Watcha snorting for? RT @Ludovicaa: @LifesizeLD *snort*! :D #scriptchat -8:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
pig_pen Hi all. Sorry I'm late. What'd I miss? #scriptchat -8:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie I miss the baby metaphor. #scriptchat -8:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger @SissiePoohSOD congrats! @zacsanford2 Is this a seekrit contest? #scriptchat -8:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @eadhed then u know what DOESNT work in 1st 10 : ) #scriptchat -8:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Our topic tonight is THE 1ST 10 PAGES, and how to hook your reader. #scriptchat -8:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Timsn Where is the pathos and tragedy in Used Cars or SOme Like it Hot? #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa @LifesizeLD *snort*! :D #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD The sooner the better! RT @SissiePoohSOD: should you introduce the antag in the 1st 10 pgs. too? or afterwards? #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 2


jeannevb unfortunately not w my crap modem in the basement where I"m stuck! RT @LifesizeLD: @jeannevb Where's the tequila? ;-) #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 TOPIC! topic! -RT @jeannevb: we're talking 1st 10 here.... let's try to stay on topic for next 20 min, then I'll let u loose #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @zacsanford2: Oh, wow!!! Thank you!!! :) #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
quicksilverwest hi all! re: first 10 pgs. of script: it's sometimes referred to as [time frame to introduce the "Oh Sh**" moment] =) #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eadhed @jeannevb I don't know scripts from beans. My first wife was a literary agent. I read a lot of crappy scripts. #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 The next script winner is @SissiePoohSOD. CONGRATS!!! #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb we're talking 1st 10 here.... let's try to stay on topic for next 20 min, then I'll let u loose #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY Absolutely! RT @TravisLegge I would argue that the best comedies are laden with pathos and tragedy @CTK1 @SKCOMEDY #scriptchat -8:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD As long as it's COMPELLING clarity! RT @twatterer: "Clarity is the most important quality." Truffaut. #scriptchat -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @naultpullar Congrats on winning the 1st script giveaway. DM me your address at @zacsanford. #scriptchat -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
markezrastokes I'm always late to #scriptchat! -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Timsn I agree with @LifesizeLD Sunset Boulevard is agreat example of VO after the character is dead. #scriptchat (forgot #) -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD should you introduce the antag in the 1st 10 pgs. too? or afterwards? #scriptchat -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger RT @jeannevb: for our new #scriptchat peeps, remember, we bring tequila but no ego to the chat room, so enjoy & keep open mind #scriptchat -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @jeannevb Where's the tequila? ;-) #scriptchat -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 Stop quibbling with @'ing me gibberish. Speak to the topic or go back to the computer keyboard cranking out piffle. Heh ;-) #ScriptChat -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
KageyNYC2 @SKCOMEDY I like the cut of your jib ;) #scriptchat -8:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge I would argue that the best comedies are laden with pathos and tragedy @CTK1 @SKCOMEDY #scriptchat -8:37 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write I second that. RT @zacsanford2: Agreed! RT @SKCOMEDY: @CTK1 Eternal Sunshine IS a comedy! #scriptchat -8:37 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar The challenge with narrators and/or VO is that movies are meant to show and not tell. How to get that info out in another way... #scriptchat -8:37 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb for our new #scriptchat peeps, remember, we bring tequila but no ego to the chat room, so enjoy ea other & keep open mind #scriptchat -8:37 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD my female protag is on pg. 5. so that's good. #scriptchat -8:37 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 A current spec I'm working on has a weird first 10. The MC/Story doesn't really start until page 5, but people say it works. #scriptchat -8:36 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @yeah_write Hey :) #scriptchat -8:36 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 @SKCOMEDY It's NOT a comedy. The majority of the film is laden with PATHOS. It's tragic. What were u watching? #scriptchat -8:36 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @2degreesofalie i'll do that when I'm sleeping on ur sofa : ) #scriptchat -8:36 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @PennyAsh Hi. Glad to see you. #scriptchat -8:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @LifesizeLD Couldn't. Agree. More. :) #scriptchat -8:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb cool! RT @2degreesofalie: @jeannevb Read the first draft of Star Wars sometime at the WGA library. Whoo! #scriptchat -8:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
twatterer "Clarity is the most important quality." Truffaut. #scriptchat -8:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Agreed! RT @SKCOMEDY: @CTK1 Eternal Sunshine IS a comedy! #scriptchat -8:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb The very first scene ur prot is in is damned important... pay close attn to it... and it better be in the 1st 10!! #scriptchat -8:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @yeah_write: Exactly. I want to leave them in enough suspense so they'll want to turn the page. #scriptchat -8:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues VO didn't hurt Shawshank Redemption either and its one of the best movies ever made! #scriptchat -8:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @jeannevb Ours goes out EVERY night at 10:34pm. Ours doesn't believe us either. #scriptchat -8:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @eyamie Conventions help provide a place 2 hang a story, but they don't make the story worthwhile. Takes a g8 concept 4 that. #scriptchat -8:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC RT @TravisLegge If u can establish the status quo in ur first 9 pgs, & destroy it on Page 10, I think u're off 2 a good start #scriptchat -8:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY @CTK1 Eternal Sunshine IS a comedy! #scriptchat -8:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @LifesizeLD: If the reader keeps wanting to turn pages, it doesnt matter HOW you do it (VO, Narrator, Breaking fourth wall) #scriptchat -8:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
2degreesofalie @jeannevb Read the first draft of Star Wars sometime at the WGA library. Whoo! #scriptchat -8:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @SissiePoohSOD Leave them wondering what the hell can happen next at the end of each scene. #scriptchat -8:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @LifesizeLD Most the good VO/Narrators are always dead. American Beauty was a great way and right away you knew he was dead. #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 haha... I shld... might have to start swearing on here : ) #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge @2degreesofalie I can't say that surprises me. I know I get off to a rocky start at times. the 1st scene is often the 1st to go #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY VO didn't hurt 500 Days of Summer, either. #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal Like that! RT @TravisLegge: If u can establish status quo in first 9 pages, & destroy it on Pe 10, you're off to a good start #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD If the reader keeps wanting to turn pages, it doesn't matter HOW you do it (VO, Narrator, Breaking the fourth wall, etc.) #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @yeah_write @2degreesofalie... i love when i'm able to get my hands on a 1st draft & then shooting script #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @jeannevb: maybe u have a haunted ISP? :) #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @jeannevb Sent them the chat transcript :) #scriptchat -8:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @LifesizeLD Of course, screenwriting conventions are pretty good guesses at what will make a compelling story #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PennyAsh @jeannevb I'm lurking, grab your audience with the very first image, then don't let go #justsayin #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 @eyamie Drama w/humor: Taxi Driver, Aguirre Wrath of God, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Being There (many films)#ScriptChat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa @zacsanford2 VO strikes me as a stylistic thing, possibly rather dated nowadays, good for period drama? but maybe lazy #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD @zacsanford2 Narrators help if your main character is already dead. #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 happens to me only at nighttime & ISP refuses to believe me #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC @naultpullar Congrats! #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @2degreesofalie It's amazing to read the spec and then the shooting to see the differences. #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD that would make the most sense. for a drama, you want to lure the audience in slowly, but not too slowly. #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal @zacsanford2 And of course (500) Days. #scriptchat -8:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge If you can establish the status quo in your first 9 pages, and destroy it on Page 10, I think you're off to a good start #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell @zacsanford My point is just all the "don'ts" are just rules made to be broken by anyone that "does it appropriately" #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 All winners of the screenplays, make sure you DM my real account (@zacsanford) your address and I'll try to mail out tomorrow. #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY VOs have gotten a bad rap. Don't use 'em as a crutch, but don't avoid 'em just because you've been told not to use them #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar @zacsanford2 thanks! #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @LifesizeLD The only measure of success is whether the story is enough to make the reader turn the page. All else is guesswork #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan Will check back in soon #scriptchat glad to see discussing gathering steam! -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NugzyBogues RT @Timsn: You can either lure your reader in or grab them by the throat. Which is better? #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @dawnbierschwal yes, I thought the narrator of The Lovely Bones helped it along and don't know how it would work without it. #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @Timsn maybe grab by the throat if its horror but lure if its drama? #scriptchat -8:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @Timsn: I'm writing a horror story, so I want to grab them by the throat & not let them go until the end. #scriptchat -8:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb i'm sitting on my basement floor plugged into modem.. I hate my ISP #justsayin #scriptchat -8:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
2degreesofalie @TravisLegge The original script of American Beauty started with a court scene. Then it ended up getting tossed. #scriptchat -8:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD That first page has to make the reader eager for page two! #scriptchat -8:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @seanjsjourdan: that's another good idea, too. wow! #scriptchat -8:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @eadhed hey... u joining #scriptchat tonight? We're talking 1st 10 pages -8:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal @zacsanford2 So you like narrators but not VO's, huh? : ) #scriptchat -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Timsn You can either lure your reader in or grab them by the throat. Which is better? #scriptchat -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 Writing is not just rattling your computer keyboard. No offense but so many people think that. Engage w/characters&plotYO. #ScriptChat -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 I forgot I had screenplays to give out tonight. So how about congratulating the first winner: @naultpullar #scriptchat -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LifesizeLD So true! RT @SKCOMEDY: Drama can be learned. Writing can be learned. So can writing comedy. #scriptchat -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
purelycarrie Time scarce. #scriptchat Will check back. Carry on soldiers ... -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @LisaFromNYC: that's another good idea. thanks so much. :) #scriptchat -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
TravisLegge A piece of advice one of my professors gave me: "Just write your script, then toss out the first 10 pages" Usually good advice. #scriptchat -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan Hard to say @SissiePoohSOD there should be a clue as to why this relationship isn't working or getting caught could be inciting #scriptchat -8:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @Timsn Or The Usual Suspects #scriptchat -8:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC @SissiePoohSOD hmm. If "why" is an imp plot, u can use it as a mystery that builds to a twist ending as to why he cheated. #scriptchat -8:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY Harold Ramis: 1st 10 pgs he just wants "to feel that I’m in good hands, that the writer . . . knows the language, the medium. #scriptchat -8:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 Topic of tonight's #ScriptChat is "1st 10 pages of a script"... My thought, if u can't even manage 1st 10, then give it up. I mean, get real -8:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD that's what I need. it's difficult 2 brainstorm w/family. too forgiving and not helpful at all. #scriptchat -8:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar @CTK1 I agree with you on that one. It's great fun coming up with those lines... #scriptchat -8:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @zacsanford2: Even tho all the books say 10 pages, the first page is the most important of all to grab and hook the reader. #scriptchat -8:27 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Very few use effectively, like Am Beauty RT @jbonnell: Great films start with VO on page 1. "That was the day I nearly died..." #scriptchat -8:27 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Timsn Jules and Jim was one of the best VO films ever! #scriptchat -8:27 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @CTK1 tell me the difference b/w a comedy and a drama with humor #scriptchat -8:27 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @jbonnell: that was from Fallen. very cool movie. #scriptchat -8:27 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @2degreesofalie The one with the guy boxing the Velociraptor? No, it was a comedy spec that has never been greenlit, but funny. #scriptchat -8:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal I'm often more interested when I have to figure out why. RT @zacsanford2: I dont think you need the "why" within the first 10 #scriptchat -8:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
twatterer @zacsanford2 Velociraptors can't open doors with boxing gloves on, so he should be okay. #scriptchat -8:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @rachlanger: Okay... that makes sense. show him going somewhere w/the other woman at the beginning. #scriptchat -8:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Timsn You can start with really interesting characters and "something happens." #scriptchat Brainstorming is very useful -8:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @jeannevb my net is having some probs too. My tweetchat keeps timing out. #scriptchat -8:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jbonnell Great films start with VOs on page 1. "That was the day I nearly died..." #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @eyamie Meh... I'm against VOs through out the whole script as most use it as a crutch. So it raises a flag for me personally. #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 @naultpullar Best dramas have comedy in them. They're not "comedy" though. But they make use of side characters injecting comedy #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD because I'm not sure whether I should start off with the 2 of them arguing or what happened afterwards. #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades every writing religion ive ever heard has a big taboo on VO, but if youre using VO, i think it has to be introduced on p1 #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar The first ten are back story until the inciting incident occurs. It's best to have that as early as possible. #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 now I want to see it! #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
2degreesofalie @zacsanford2 Was that the Sci fi channel movie? #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger @SissiePoohSOD You just need to find a spicy event that tells us about the conflict and shows us what the prot. wants/needs. #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @SissiePoohSOD I don't think you need the "why" within the first 10 pages. Depends on the tone and what the real story is about #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @SissiePoohSOD If you don't know where to start, brainstorm aloud. Talk it out with someone. This really helps. #scriptchat -8:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @zacsanford2 How about VOs on page 1? Interested to hear a pro opinion #scriptchat -8:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 In a spec that sold for a Million bucks a few years ago, a guy got into a boxing match with a Velociraptor. #scriptchat -8:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
2degreesofalie Regarding today's topic, the first 10 pages is all you get to impress. If you haven't hooked your reader by then, sucks to be u #scriptchat -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger @SissiePoohSOD Not necessarily, you need to hit the beats when they gel in the arc, but you should set up the conflict in 1st 10 #scriptchat -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY A comedy has to establish intriguing character with sharply defined voice. Pulling me into world is more important than jokes #scriptchat -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
writerjoel @scriptcollector Hey, curious: what's with the #scriptchat thing? Looks like something I'd be into. -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 @naultpullar Um, a failed comedy is not funny. So this conversation is kind of? Not in the ballpark. ;-) #ScriptChat -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 uh oh, I might get some flack for not liking Avatar with this crowd. :) But as screenwriters we should all hate it. #scriptchat -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 what is ur biggest pet peeve in 1st 10? #scriptchat -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @GoldenAgeofGeek hey... #scriptchat is on? U holiday shopping? Wld LOVE ur opinion on 1st 10 pages -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @eyamie Minnesotans sound just like the Canadians, and I live just south of them. lol #scriptchat -8:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD I'm attempting to turn a short story I wrote into a screenplay. #scriptchat -8:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan Agreed! RT @jeannevb @seanjsjourdan Also in drama, need to know what the conflict is... what I'm rooting for #scriptchat -8:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 @jeannevb Peeps w/no talent assume "comedy" is EZ. They're daft & have no idea it's the most difficult of all. #ScriptChat -8:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @eyamie I've only seen a couple episodes this season of 30Rock, but I do love me some Degrassi. #scriptchat -8:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 In the over-rated Avatar, within 10 minutes they had already introduced the Na'vi and the MC's goal. #scriptchat -8:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @seanjsjourdan: so if my main chars get into a fight, that's the first thing I should show? #scriptchat -8:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal Also nice to know what's at risk. #scriptchat -8:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @zacsanford2 Don't get me started on 30Rock's new Canuck character and his "Aboots" #scriptchat -8:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Comedy is tough to write and even harder to get across on the page. I rarely laugh out loud while reading. #scriptchat -8:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb Internet jamming up.... #scriptchat -8:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
iceberg061 I'm working on a suspense psych thriller. Characters & story are developing but I'm trying 2 build suspense w/out giving 2 much. #scriptchat -8:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 @Snugglegoth No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm talking about writing comedy. It's a real gift, it CAN'T be learned in school. #ScriptChat -8:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan With everything really, the main conflict should be introduced, even if subtly #scriptchat -8:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC @SKCOMEDY You've given me hope regarding comedy. #scriptchat -8:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger @zacsanford2 I'll try to pronounce it a-baaawt from now on. ;-) #scriptchat -8:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal In all genres. RT @jeannevb: @seanjsjourdan Also in drama, need to know what the conflict is... what Im rooting for #scriptchat -8:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Hi, glad you could make it. RT @2degreesofalie: Im here now. #scriptchat -8:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal And I 2nd it. : ) RT @eyamie: @SKCOMEDY I agree with your disagreeing #scriptchat -8:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 Art of comedy is intricate. Any slob can spew a drama, a thriller or what have u, but COMEDY? The hardest thing in the business. #ScriptChat -8:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 That's what I'm talkin' aboot. Wait, who said something about being funny? RT @jeannevb: @rachlanger Canadians r always welcome #scriptchat -8:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write I agree. RT @SKCOMEDY: Drama can be learned. Writing can be learned. So can writing comedy. #scriptchat -8:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rogue_bard @SKCOMEDY, Funny can be learned but there needs to be some fertile ground and some kind of early seed for it to be there first. #scriptchat -8:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @seanjsjourdan Also in drama, need to know what the conflict is... what I'm rooting for #scriptchat -8:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD a short story I wrote begins after a couple has had a terrible fight. will that work as an attention grabber? #scriptchat -8:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @SKCOMEDY I agree with your disagreeing #scriptchat -8:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @seanjsjourdan in drama, i want to feel emotions right away... need to care about MC (or hate them) but need to feel something #scriptchat -8:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SKCOMEDY Drama can be learned. Writing can be learned. So can writing comedy. #scriptchat -8:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan I'm interested to hear people's thoughts regarding the first ten pages of a drama #scriptchat -8:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal @eyamie Agree. And introduce a conflict for them... at least one. #scriptchat -8:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @CTK1 I agree! Ur either funny or ur just trying too hard & it fails... stick to a genre that works for ur style #scriptchat -8:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger @jeannevb What about Canadians? ;-) #scriptchat -8:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 2 many scripts I read load the first 10 pages with too much exposition and usually it all comes out in dialogue. Show don't tell #scriptchat -8:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
tylerweaver And I generally don't write an opening image until I know the last image to contrast the two and bookend. #scriptchat -8:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 @ThelemicWaves No "learning" to be funny. Funny is a gift. It's not drama, anyone can learn to write drama. Comedy? No way. #ScriptChat -8:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @dawnbierschwal Yes, you need to establish an ordinary world for the main char, but also show what's obviously missing for them #scriptchat -8:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb while I have u here, if noon PT (3pm EST) is more convenient for any1, EURO #scriptchat is on then & always happy 2c Americans #scriptchat -8:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 RT @CTK1: People who want to write comedy. Listen, funny can NOT be learned. U are or you are NOT. There is no if&OrButs on this #scriptchat -8:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades @yeah_write thats a great rule #scriptchat -8:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NikkiCrick RT @CTK1: Hello Writer People Who Write Things, #ScriptChat is NOW tweeting live. TOPIC by host @jeannevb is "The 1st 10 pages... hookin ... -8:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
tylerweaver Those first ten are the most important thing. As a director - I thrive on opening images. They have to rile, stir, and excite. #scriptchat -8:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @PeteofAllTrades excellent : ) #scriptchat -8:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal First 10 pgs also to learn what life is like for main characters... to emerse us into their world so we understand their POV. #scriptchat -8:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb haha RT @zacsanford2: But please do not write that in your spec script... #scriptchat -8:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD @zacsanford2: LOL! I like that! #scriptchat -8:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 People who want to write comedy. Listen, funny can NOT be learned. You are or you are NOT. There is no if&OrButs on this. None. #ScriptChat -8:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Starting your opening scene at the latest point where it makes sense is a good start. #scriptchat -8:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 But please do not write that in your spec script... #scriptchat -8:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb love that! RT @tylerweaver: my 1st 10 pages goal: Kick in balls. Then put a shoulder around for a few. #scriptchat. #scriptchat -8:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades 2degrees is with her parents. but im supposed to speak/ listen on her behalf #scriptchat -8:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 I think @Robotard8000 set the mood right away by writing "Fade the Fuck In:". Knew I wasn't in for a regular read. #scriptchat -8:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 @jeannevb As I recall it's 3 jokes a page or you suck. #scriptchat But that is mostly sitcoms. Regardless be funny, um, or die. -8:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @yeah_write There's no right answer to that question #scriptchat -8:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar @yeah_write Think about why you are even writing the script in the first place. What makes that day different from the others... #scriptchat -8:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Werecat1 RT @CTK1: Hello Writer People Who Write Things, #ScriptChat is NOW tweeting live. TOPIC by host @jeannevb is "The 1st 10 pages... hookin ... -8:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
tylerweaver In the interest of @jeannevb's call to arms, my 1st 10 pages goal: Kick in balls. Then put a shoulder around for a few. #scriptchat. -8:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @PeteofAllTrades PETE!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah! xoxoxo Where's @2degreesofalie? #scriptchat -8:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal ... it is human nature to want to see the first pair you see together. So, introduce the love interest before other characters. #scriptchat -8:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD I started out showing a peaceful campus, then shots ring out, ppl panic & all hell breaks loose. #scriptchat -8:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
CTK1 Hello Writer People Who Write Things, #ScriptChat is NOW tweeting live. TOPIC by host @jeannevb is "The 1st 10 pages... hooking the reader" -8:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write But what makes the first 10 pages turnable and exciting? #scriptchat -8:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal Something I foudn useful from Michael Hauge: In a romance the sequence of introdutions is important... #scriptchat -8:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Many scripts I don't know by fade out RT @dawnbierschwal: 1st 10 pages shld also set the tone for the movie: comedy, drama, etc. #scriptchat -8:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @CTK1 psstt.... #scriptchat... its quiet tonight bc of holidays :( -8:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb If its a comedy, u damn well better make them laugh on page 1 #scriptchat -8:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar The set up for the entire story happens within those pages. #scriptchat -8:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
PeteofAllTrades zac- ive learned the same thing #scriptchat -8:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Not sure if @DJordanKnight will be around or not. #scriptchat -8:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD I'll b doing my Xmas shopping 2morrw & Weds. #scriptchat -8:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
dawnbierschwal First 10 pages should also set the tone for the movie... comedy, drama, etc. #scriptchat -8:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @tylerweaver get ur ars to #scriptchat .... we're talking 1st 10 pages -8:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 .@KageyNYC2 Never ever have a first page that is all action blocks. Well maybe that's only a pet peeve of mine #scriptchat -8:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa #scriptchat in "Love Story" I felt knowing Ali McGraws character died right away ruined the rest of the film for me So how to find balance? -8:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie @jeannevb Credits are not my problem :) #scriptchat -8:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write @zacsanford2 I noticed we are missing quite a few regulars, but it's to be expected for the next few weeks. #scriptchat -8:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger @zacsanford2 or continuing to recover from pre-Christmas horrendousness. #scriptchat -8:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 I do think xmas shopping is in full gear tonight... and the east coast is digging out of a snow storm #scriptchat -8:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 By page 10 I should also know who the main character is, what their need/wants are and the theme. #scriptchat -8:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie Attention facebook friends: twitter chatting. sorry for the noise, just ignore it if it says #scriptchat -8:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb Remember, credits r rolling in beginning too... #scriptchat -8:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
KageyNYC2 @zacsanford2 Are there any thoughts on what works better, action vs dialogue, on 1st page or 1st 10 pp? #scriptchat -8:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb I like to start of quick paced, then after 1st 10, its ok to slow down & simmer #scriptchat -8:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Seems a little light tonight. Guess many are out there shopping (I haven't started yet) or are already celebrating the Holiday. #scriptchat -8:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptcollector One way is to show the best part of your ending/3rd act then start with the story so the reader knows somethings to come. #scriptchat -8:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Don't tell us the backstory in the first 10 pages, get us into the story with a jolt and keep it going. #scriptchat -8:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @scriptcollector hey, nice to see u here! :) #scriptchat -8:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
eyamie Not just a hook in the first 10 pages, though - you're also setting idiom, genre, tone, intro characters and dramatic question #scriptchat -8:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD that's why I started my story with a mass shooting. definitely grabs attention. #scriptchat -8:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Agree with @scriptcollector. Horror/action should always start with a scare/kill or an engaging action scene to set the tone. #scriptchat -8:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb Also set up the world the film is in, esp if its not the standard world we know #scriptchat -8:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
rachlanger @naultpullar Welcome! Jump on in, we're talking about the first 10 pages and how to make them dynamic. #scriptchat -8:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @naultpullar welcome! We dont bite : ) We're talking grabbing reader in 1st 10 pages #scriptchat -8:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scriptcollector Depends on genre, but starting with most gripping scene and then moving with the story works great in horror/action/thriller #scriptchat -8:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Welcome. RT @naultpullar: Hello! jolene jahnke suggested that I check this out. #scriptchat -8:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @zacsanford2 agree... make them DYING to flip to pg 2 #scriptchat -8:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 @naultpullar Hello and welcome. #scriptchat -8:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Yes, it's #scriptchat time once again, so followers just ignore me if you aren't interested in screenwriting. -8:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb If there r any SCRIPT READERS lurking out there, join us for topic of 1st 10... this is ur chance to yell at screenwriters! :) #scriptchat -8:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
naultpullar Hello! jolene jahnke suggested that I check this out. #scriptchat -8:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 I would say even your first page is VERY crucial! There's been many scripts where I'm already checked out by the end of page 1 #scriptchat -8:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @zacsanford2: The first ten pages are crucial to grab the reader. Never give them a reason to put your script down. #scriptchat -8:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @dreamsgrafter said at EURO chat... after doing first draft, always go back & tighten up 1st 10 #scriptchat -8:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 The first ten pages are crucial to grab the reader. Never give them a reason to put your script down. #scriptchat -8:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
SissiePoohSOD hey, every1! nice 2 b here! :) #scriptchat -8:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
yeah_write Still rewriting as I see it on the big screen. (in theory) RT @jmiewald: At what point do you stop re-writing? #scriptchat -8:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 When the film is released. RT @jmiewald: At what point do you stop re-writing? #scriptchat -8:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb for me, I try to grab em quick w not only story but an interesting char #scriptchat -8:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @jmiewald we're talking first 10 pages tonight #scriptchat -8:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 RT @jeannevb: #scriptchat TOPIC: The First 10 Pages: What info must be included & conveyed and how to get the reader past p. 10 #scriptchat -8:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 No, I Zac, You @yeah_write. :) RT @yeah_write: i Zac RT @zacsanford2: good evening yall. #scriptchat -8:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jmiewald At what point do you stop re-writing? #scriptchat -8:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford2 Yippy! I have screenplays to giveaway today. #scriptchat -7:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb #scriptchat TOPIC: The First 10 Pages: What info must be included & conveyed and how to get the reader past p. 10 -7:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb here we go.... EURO chat did great w topic... def check out transcript later #scriptchat -7:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009

BEGINNING AMERICAN CHAT:


END EURO:

DreamsGrafter That's another one. Rules of the World must be established clearly in 1st ten mins. if they're different to the audience's. #scriptchat -4:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009

DreamsGrafter @robinkelly1 Tho' can characters behave however they want w/in the rules of the world of your story. #scriptchat -4:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
momentsoffilm #scriptchat I will leave you with the thought that not everyone will like your story but if you make them like your writing they'll be back! -4:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009

DreamsGrafter @robinkelly1 Psychological truth - that's a good one. #scriptchat -4:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
cafe_neon Which is a bit tricky when you write rom coms...#scriptchat -4:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @momentsoffilm thx! Just rented it on netflix #scriptchat -4:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia ha... thx, Clive! #scriptchat -4:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
paulswaronlove Thanks everyone...this was fantastic. #scriptchat -4:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink RT @momentsoffilm Despite sucky story RevolutionaryRoad is 1 of the nicest writing techniqes I've seen http://bit.ly/73gfkR #scriptchat -4:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
robinkelly1 @DreamsGrafter I mean psychological truth. They have to talk + behave like real people, helps to get me emotionally involved #scriptchat -4:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
moviequill #scriptchat Unknown Screenwriter's tips for first 10 pages of a screenplay http://tinyurl.com/yfesx8g -4:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - thanks everyone for another thought provoking chat - I will now go away and ponder my opinionated ass... ho ho ho -4:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
momentsoffilm RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat - all characters define themselves by their actions, unique decisions and action when rubbed against the plot -4:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter Dirty Dancing's just started on tv ... will tweet and watch first 10 mins. #scriptchat -4:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb my internet is crap. Going to say goodbye & thx again 4 joining every1. Will try to get transcript up tonight or tom AM #scriptchat -4:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
momentsoffilm @jeannevb Despite a sucky story Revolutionary Road is one of the nicest writing techniqes I've seen.. here http://bit.ly/73gfkR #scriptchat -4:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - all characters define themselves by their actions - by their unique decisions and action when rubbed against the plot -4:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
JPeep @seanjsjourdan, I really enjoy @filmutopia's insights on #scriptchat. Do you know of each other? -4:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @robinkelly1 what do you mean truthful dialogue? #scriptchat -3:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
cindykcruz RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat - if most of us picked our ten all time favorite movies and looked at the 1st ten mins, we be shocked at th ... -3:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
moviequill #scriptchat character dev w/action for sure, but need to get past Pg10 so when can't, go with the action & cut out anything boring -3:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat to talk about action and character dev separately is like talking about moving your legs and your body separately -3:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @twatterer Love it! :) Also 'The Birds' first ten mins. Brilliant - again, sets it all up instantly - incl. protagonist's flaw. #scriptchat -3:58 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
robinkelly1 I look for truthful dialogue with no obvious exposition,story starting early,simple, not too many characters introduced at once #scriptchat -3:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @blackrugger the imp of the 1st 10 pages #scriptchat -3:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
blackrugger @jeannevb what's the topic? #scriptchat -3:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia i agree... they are BOTH so important #scriptchat -3:56 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @blackrugger EURO is almost over but 8pm EST is same topic #scriptchat -3:56 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @kingisafink Ppl rarely listen to each other. So dialogue needs to serve a dramatic function: conflict, contradiction, lies #scriptchat -3:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - I honestly don't understand it when people talk about action and character development separately. It's a false dichotomy -3:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
twatterer @DreamsGrafter The entire NBNW script is brilliant, almost perfection. #scriptchat -3:54 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
momentsoffilm #scriptchat It pays to remember that readers look for more from unproduced writers than they do from established pro screenwriters. -3:54 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia @moviequill I'm all about chars, so getting their essence onscreen pronto is imp to my stories #scriptchat -3:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
blackrugger how late am I? #scriptchat -3:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing Zombieland not only established the rules in the 1st 10- they spelled them out on screen- then broke them in the B.Murray scene #scriptchat -3:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @moviequill i.e. the action can be the result of the character's flaw ... hook. now, u know the character's need 'n' journey. #scriptchat -3:53 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia @moviequill why not do both at the same time, action and character development #scriptchat -3:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink @DreamsGrafter "Dialogue contradicting truth" = great. Can tell far more than description, dialogue, or action alone. #scriptchat -3:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @moviequill Ideally, you can have action with character development. #scriptchat -3:52 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter The 1st ten mins. of North by North West is brilliant. You know the char, his flaw and u watch him get straight into trouble. #scriptchat -3:51 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb Im givin u all homework... bc I have that kind of power (mwahahA) Pick up 3 produced scripts fr ur stack & rd 1st 10 #scriptchat -3:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
lmcnelly @filmutopia that's probably one of the reasons we love them #scriptchat -3:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
moviequill #scriptchat how about start with action 1st 10 to suck them in? guy running? car crash? shootout? character dev page 11 on? -3:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan Inspired yesterday to write a short Christmas script yesterday - no time to WGA or (c) so can't share :( have to protect work #scriptchat -3:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - if most of us picked our ten all time favorite movies and looked at the 1st ten mins, we be shocked at the lack of formula -3:48 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
paulswaronlove @DreamsGrafter @elaineewing - I totally agree. #scriptchat -3:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb *curtsy* @Werecat1 @elaineewing @kingisafink @DreamsGrafter @paulswaronlove #scriptchat -3:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter RT @jeannevb: have I told u all lately how happy I am u come to #scriptchat & share? We r all learning fr ea other's experiences. Very p ... -3:47 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @elaineewing @paulswaronlove That scene and the 1 in the bar were my fave. Similar kinda tension. Dialogue contradicting truth. #scriptchat -3:46 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa RT @twatterer: Any self-respecting1st 10pgs should have at least 2 car chases, gratuitous sex ,a rooftop shoot-out&a bear attack.#scriptchat -3:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb have I told u all lately how happy I am u come to #scriptchat & share? We r all learning fr ea other's experiences. Very proud #scriptchat -3:45 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @paulswaronlove i also have them tell me what scenes bore the shit out of them haha...but the hook is where I start the rewrites #scriptchat -3:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink When @jeannevb has some1 read her work, she asks them to mark on margin WHEN they felt hooked - - - I like that! #scriptchat -3:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
seanjsjourdan #scriptchat Always informative. -3:43 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter That's a good one! RT @jeannevb when I have some1 read my work, I specifically ask them to mark on margin WHEN they felt hooked #scriptchat -3:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @mjodirector i'm glad. It's SUCH a joy to have screenwriters tell me how much #scriptchat has meant to them *curtsy* -3:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
paulswaronlove RT @jeannevb: when I have some1 read my work, I specifically ask them to mark on margin WHEN they felt hooked// Ooo, I like that #scriptchat -3:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Wookiesgirl RT @jeannevb: when I have some1 read my work, I specifically ask them to mark on margin WHEN they felt hooked #scriptchat -3:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat - Because I write comedy, my other rules is 2 gags per page and a belter in the first four pages #scriptchat -3:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
moviequill #scriptchat readers get bored easy so need to grab them by the "balls" first 10 or at least threaten to kick them -3:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC In comedy do you need a joke on the first pg, or could u set up a funny situation? #scriptchat -3:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb when I have some1 read my work, I specifically ask them to mark on margin WHEN they felt hooked #scriptchat -3:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - Because I write comedy, my other rules is 2 gags per page and a belter in the first four pages -3:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @elaineewing Completely - yes, it's always about the story. One big character, action, story set up. :) #scriptchat -3:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
paulswaronlove @DreamsGrafter Yes it was, but it was also one of my favorites in the movie. My dad's too, and he's not one for extensive dialog #scriptchat -3:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
mjodirector @jeannevb Hi Beatiful, I'm glad also!. I am very timid, u know? Seriously~ this #scriptchat is greatl 4 me in many ways!! -3:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb i hope we all go back tomorrow & read our 1st 10 w all this insight in mind. I know I will #scriptchat -3:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing @DreamsGrafter It was the tension- u knew they were under the floor, Best 10 mins of the movie #scriptchat -3:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @moviequill glad u joined us Mr. Script Judge : ) #scriptchat -3:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing @DreamsGrafter Don't over think it though, don't make it forced. A good 1st minute still has to serve the rest of the story #scriptchat -3:39 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter Tarantino's 1st sc. in Inglorious Basterds was one long conversation, but there was plenty of visual activity for the audience. #scriptchat -3:38 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
moviequill #scriptchat first 10 pgs should show your genre and at least one of your main characters, hint of conflict of some sort -3:37 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb wonderful 2 c u! RT @missingglove: #scriptchat I try and do everything youre discussing in 60seconds-filthy copywriter that I am #scriptchat -3:37 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat Personally, in the first ten pages I like to have a fast bit and a slow bit. -3:37 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter I've started to make sure my 1st minute has a strong image and a grabbing action that is about the character. #scriptchat -3:36 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
missingglove #scriptchat I try and do everything you're discussing in 60seconds-filthy copywriter that I am -3:36 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @AuthorRussell great to see you, Russell : ) #scriptchat -3:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @elaineewing Totally agree re story. #scriptchat -3:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb If there are any script readers out there, come join us for #scriptchat & tell us what YOU want to see in 1st 10 pages. On now & at 8pm EST -3:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
LisaFromNYC & aliens RT @twatterer 1st 10 pgs should have at least 2 car chases, gratuitous sex and a rooftop shoot-out. And a bear attack. #scriptchat -3:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @DreamsGrafter i cld use both today : ) #scriptchat -3:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @mjodirector hi beautiful... glad u made it #scriptchat -3:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @jeannevb rolo that is - not braincell. ;) #scriptchat -3:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia credit sequence is a great point. When I just hacked scenes, I added 1 back for just that reason #scriptchat -3:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @jeannevb i reckon you've got a few million left. ;) *u can trade a few in for some rolos.* throwing 1 over to you right now. :) #scriptchat -3:33 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia @momentsoffilm I totally agree. #scriptchat -3:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
twatterer Any self-respecting first 10 pgs should have at least two car chases, gratuitous sex and a rooftop shoot-out. And a bear attack. #scriptchat -3:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - it might also be worth pointing out that it needs to be great and workable as a credit sequence. So, no pressure then! HA -3:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
mjodirector RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat my original 1st draft of Smoke started at the funeral. It was only after notes from a pro that I wrote the c ... -3:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb Doing very detailed outline & just hacked scenes out of start... so much tighter it might even pass @filmutopia's test ha #scriptchat -3:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
johnrackham I cut someone's throat in the first 20 seconds of my first feature but then went into a too leisurely 30 min setup. #scriptchat -3:31 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
momentsoffilm #scriptchat The first 10 pages are about respecting the reader and earning reader's respect. Grammer and clarity are as important as story. -3:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @robinkelly1 Completely. If the main character doesn't grab yr imagination/emotions - what's the point w/ sticking w/ the story? #scriptchat -3:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing I think u either understand story or not.I don't check plot points etc til I'm done & they are always right where they should be #scriptchat -3:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat my original 1st draft of Smoke started at the funeral. It was only after notes from a pro that I wrote the current opening -3:30 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @DreamsGrafter phew... glad to know I still have a brain cell left ha #scriptchat -3:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @jeannevb Once you've written the script, going back to the start should make the 1st ten pages much tighter. #scriptchat -3:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia and it will be my pleasure to pimp it to our fellow screenwriters *curtsy* #scriptchat -3:29 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @jeannevb Yes, twas me. Re my thriller. Have to go back to the start and set up act 2 and 3 properly re character and action. #scriptchat -3:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
robinkelly1 I agree with "compelling character not just story". They don't have to be loveable for me just interesting and intriguing. #scriptchat -3:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia @jeannevb #scriptchat - Yes, of course I'll blog about writing the first ten pages of a script.. my pleasure -3:28 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @elaineewing I love it when I forget about the clock. That's when I know it's a great script. #scriptchat -3:27 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb Some1 tweeted (sorry lost count of who) to rewrite 1st 10 after finishing first draft (maybe @dreamsgrafter). Great advice #scriptchat -3:27 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia @edbrenegar #scriptchat - I think it is. It's too easy to get caught up in formula requirements and forget it's meant to be a film -3:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @elaineewing SO true. The average audience should be unaware but yes, clock watching is a great exercise. #scriptchat -3:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
mjodirector Am working on first feature. My 10 pages will include enticing opening screaming "I wanna see more"! Define the main characters #scriptchat -3:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink @filmutopia Great point. People get stuck on the “ordinary world” thing. No need to start with hero’s alarm clock & breakfast. #scriptchat -3:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia but u WILL write a blog about it, won't u ? *hint hint* mwahaha #scriptchat -3:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing @DreamsGrafter Well I know my end before I start- write it straight thru- then rewrite most everything haha #scriptchat -3:26 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
edbrenegar Simple, heh! RT @filmutopia: #scriptchat - it's actually dead simple - just write the best 1st ten minutes of cinema ever filmed - ... -3:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa @filmutopia LOL thats kind of a Holy Grail scenario, and I dont mean Monty Python! #scriptchat -3:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @kingisafink I loved Bringing Up Baby. K Hepburn... fave of all time #scriptchat -3:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter RT @mjodirector My 10 pages will include an enticing opening screaming "I wanna see more"! Define the main characters. #scriptchat -3:25 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb #scriptchat RT @jeannevb: @iceberg061 I'm not a writer of shorts, but my guess wld be no more than 5 if the film is only 30 min long -3:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia do u already have a blog about the 1st 10 that I can pimp? #scriptchat -3:24 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing @DreamsGrafter I innately knew formula, but when I 1st began writing- clock watched & w/astounded how things fell right on time #scriptchat -3:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - it's actually dead simple - just write the best 1st ten minutes of cinema ever filmed - then write another primo 100 pages -3:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter I love it that Bringing up baby and My Man Godfrey have been referenced during tonight's #scriptchat -3:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @KarenSperling Will definitely watch that soon again. Have it on dvd. :) #scriptchat -3:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
johnrackham It's aimed at improvisers but Keith Johnstone has great advice on story in 'Impro' and 'Improvisation for Storytellers'. #scriptchat -3:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
ZachsMind Throw in a car chase @elaineewing and a little nudity in the 2nd act can't hurt either. #scriptchat Ooh! A naked car chase! -3:22 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink Bringing Up Baby. First 10: CGrant is scientist, engaged, has to pick up bone, meets kooky KHepburn. Gets off track. Boom. #scriptchat -3:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter RT @jeannevb: #scriptchat now & 8pm EST is talking advice/importance of grabbing reader in 1st 10 pages -3:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @elaineewing But don't you find when you get to the end, you have to write the beginning all over again? re set-up. #scriptchat -3:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - people often mistake "ordinary world" to mean "boring" when all it means is "ordinary for this guy" as in "ordinary super spy" -3:21 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @robinkelly1 Hi Robin, fancy joining #scriptchat - we're talking first ten pages of a screenplay. What works? What doesn't? -3:20 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @kingisafink Ha ha, I clock watch too. It's amazing how much info. and action you can cram in in 10 mins. #scriptchat -3:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing All that said.. it is much easier (for me) to write a killer opening than to get thru that long 2nd act & keep it riveting. #scriptchat -3:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb #scriptchat now & 8pm EST is talking advice/importance of grabbing reader in 1st 10 pages -3:19 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb EURO #scriptchat is on now, but have no fear, 8pm EST chat has ur back if u cant make this one -3:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter Have to say, UP, has a great set up for a character's Want vs. Need. #scriptchat -3:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink Been watching movies w/ one eye on the clock lately. Amazing what can be accomplished by Minute 10. And not all w/ dialogue. #scriptchat -3:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @filmutopia: what I want in the first ten minutes is to be entertained and to believe the writer is going to delight me #scriptchat -3:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Wookiesgirl RT @jeannevb: I'm @filmutopia's primo pimp, so when I tell u to read his Smoke novel pgs, read them! http://post.ly/FdKA #scriptchat -3:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - mainly, what I want in the first ten minutes is to be entertained and to believe the writer is going to delight me -3:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa @filmutopia thanks so much appreciated #scriptchat -3:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb I'm @filmutopia's primo pimp, so when I tell u to read his Smoke novel pgs, read them! http://post.ly/FdKA #scriptchat -3:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
KarenSperling @DreamsGrafter I love My Man Godfrey, too, and I've watched it dozens of times. To me it's a perfect script. #scriptchat -3:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @johnrackham Completely. :) ... And great if first 10 pages trickle throughout the script w/ pay offs. #scriptchat -3:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
lmcnelly So true RT @johnrackham: Ideally the whole mainspring of the film has to be wound in the first 10 pages. #scriptchat -3:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
scribereglyph @jeannevb Very true #scriptchat -3:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing Watched Public Enemies last nt In the first few mins when Dillinger won't let go of the guys hand- the character was established #scriptchat -3:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia @Ludovicaa sorry, here's the link http://tinyurl.com/yakquz9 #scriptchat -3:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @KarenSperling I love My Man Godfrey! Will watch again to study first 10 mins. #scriptchat -3:15 PM Dec 20th, 2009
 
Ludovicaa @DreamsGrafter ah right yes thats very clear Thank you #scriptchat -3:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
johnrackham Ideally the whole mainspring of the film has to be wound in the first 10 pages. #scriptchat -3:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb if dialogue sucks in page 1, its next to impossible to want to turn the page #scriptchat -3:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter Establishing genre is also crucial for first ten pages. Tell the reader what kind of film this is. #scriptchat -3:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia @Ludovicaa I can. I put the 1st 27 pages of the novelisation of one of my scripts online, today. This is how I do it #scriptchat -3:14 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @jeannevb Very true. Emotion. You engage the reader emotionally - you've got them for as long as you want them, ;) #scriptchat -3:13 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat also in the first 10 pages of a spec you have to prove your writing chops and show you understand how shit is done -3:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb absolutely! : ) RT @kingisafink: @jeannevb But that great first page got you to read the rest, yes? Baby steps... #scriptchat -3:12 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink @jeannevb But that great first page got you to read the rest, yes? Baby steps... #scriptchat -3:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @Wookiesgirl please join in. :) We're talking first 10 pages. #scriptchat -3:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa #scriptchat @elaineewing.. Thanks :) @filmutopia can u give an example of what you want to see? action? a character set up? -3:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - Guys, it's not just about characters. The opening of the movie needs to be cinematic, I need to feel my €6 was worth it -3:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @DreamsGrafter or love to hate them : ) #scriptchat -3:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
johnrackham @filmutopia He certainly does! #scriptchat -3:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
lmcnelly @filmutopia sure, how many good scripts start with an awful paragraph? like, none #scriptchat -3:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @jeannevb true ... plus, the reader must have a reason to like the protagonist whether he/she is good or bad. #scriptchat -3:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
KarenSperling My Man Godfrey is a great example of good first 10 pages-the movie's conflict and characters are set up right away, with comedy. #scriptchat -3:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia recently read 1 that totally grabbed me by end of pg 1... then it was all downhill, sadly #scriptchat -3:10 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia @natasha_blue @johnrackham Syd Field needs the back of his head slapping for that one #scriptchat -3:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
elaineewing @Ludovicaa 1 page is 1 minute of screen time- a good first line is great-but more important establish ur premise in the 10pages #scriptchat -3:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @Ludovicaa Rather than very first line. Very first image is very important. Great if it completely contradicts the final image. #scriptchat -3:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink #scriptchat We figure that we only have one chance to grab the reader. If the 1st 10 are boring, why would they read the last 110? -3:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb 1st 10 is the set up, if u can, grab reader by the throat by end of pg 1 to make them NEED to turn page #scriptchat -3:09 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter First ten pages should tell the reader why the main character is someone an audience should spend another hour and a half w/. #scriptchat -3:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat It's dreadful to say, but I can normally tell just how rotten a script is going to be by the end of the first paragraph -3:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
johnrackham @filmutopia That could be down to Syd Field #scriptchat -3:08 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @kingisafink Good idea! If first 10 pages are not good, it won't get better - that's the general thinking of most readers. #scriptchat -3:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb RT @filmutopia: the problem with many opening pages I read, is they are mundane and just tedious "ordinary life" sequences #scriptchat -3:07 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa #scriptchat how crucial is the very first line do you think? what should the first paragraph convey? -3:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat -the problem with many opening pages I read, is they are mundane and just tedious "ordinary life" sequences -3:06 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @Wookiesgirl yes... EURO #scriptchat on now... another one 8pm EST... be our voyeur :) #scriptchat -3:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter Watched 'Where the Wild Things Are' earlier - and the first 10 mins. were set up for bigger pay offs much later on in the film. #scriptchat -3:05 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb in 1st 10 for me, I try to really grab reader w compelling char not just story...make them WANT to follow the hero anywhere #scriptchat -3:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Wookiesgirl @jeannevb Are you doing #scriptchat this morning? May I watch from behind the curtain? -3:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink @DreamsGrafter #scriptchat We agree. We’re currently reworking our third feature and we’re going to pay special attention to the first 10. -3:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb @filmutopia thanks, Clive. She wont let me go to the ER, so I'm going to distract myself w #scriptchat -3:04 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
kingisafink Hey, screenwriters! #scriptchat EURO has started. Let's go! -3:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia #scriptchat - first 10 pages for me is: show the protagonist in a defining moment, then set them up for a life changing event -3:03 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter @mckormickastley Completely ;) Just a tough call first 10 pages: set up, grabbing the reader's attention, establishing genre #scriptchat -3:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb hey screenwriters! #scriptchat -3:02 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter I think the first 10 pages are the most difficult to write #scriptchat -3:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
Ludovicaa #scriptchat Topic is making the beginning gripping enough to keep ppl reading -3:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
johnrackham RT @DreamsGrafter: #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK -3:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
johnrackham RT @DreamsGrafter: Today's #scriptchat topic: The First 10 Pages: What info must be included & conveyed and how to get the reader past p.10. -3:01 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
mckormickastley @DreamsGrafter besides paying them?#scriptchat -3:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK -3:00 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter Today's #scriptchat topic: The First 10 Pages: What info must be included & conveyed and how to get the reader past p. 10. -2:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
omewan RT @filmutopia: "in 8 minutes it's #scriptchat ... this means I'll be tweeting a lot, about scriptwriting as part of an online discussion" -2:59 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
paulswaronlove Looking forward to sitting in on my first #scriptchat today. -2:57 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia To all of my non- #scriptchat followers I'll just say this - it only happens once a week - sorry for the tidal wave of script stuff -2:55 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia Sorry tweeps, in 8 minutes it's #scriptchat ... this means I'll be tweeting a lot, about scriptwriting as part of an online discussion -2:54 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
JSterlingS @jeannevb Sending healing energy and good thoughts your way. #scriptchat -2:51 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
NikkiCrick RT @Alex_Carrick: Here's a new story for my #writechat & #scriptchat friends http://www.alexcarrick.com/?p=1319 #comedy #funny -2:50 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb Dad just called. Taking my mom to ER. Her bp is 86/60. Might be bit distracted at #scriptchat today -2:49 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
filmutopia RT @jeannevb: ATTN #scriptchat peeps: 2nd @johnaugust interview to watch on his writing habits/advice Yes, I'm his #pimpbitch today: htt ... -2:42 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
UncompletedWork RT @jeannevb: ATTN #scriptchat peeps: 2nd @johnaugust interview to watch on his writing habits/advice Yes, I'm his #pimpbitch today: htt ... -2:41 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb ATTN #scriptchat peeps: 2nd @johnaugust interview to watch on his writing habits/advice Yes, I'm his #pimpbitch today: http://bit.ly/50V8tW -2:40 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter Euro #scriptchat o'clock: 8pm. Can't wait! -2:35 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter RT @jeannevb: ATTN SCREENWRITERS: Less than 1 hr to EURO #scriptchat... Americans welcome too, esp if u cant make it at 8pm EST -2:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
DreamsGrafter RT @jeannevb: #scriptchat peeps: U really shld watch this @johnaugust interview: http://bit.ly/6VIrYZ -2:34 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb #scriptchat peeps: U really shld watch this @johnaugust interview: http://bit.ly/6VIrYZ -2:32 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
zacsanford RT @jeannevb: ATTN SCREENWRITERS: Less than 1 hr to EURO #scriptchat... Americans welcome too, esp if u cant make it at 8pm EST -2:18 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb #scriptchat peeps 4 inspiration, read (cc @johnaugust )RT @davidspies: Screenwriting and the Inspiration to Write: http://bit.ly/27z8GS -2:17 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
johnrackham RT @jeannevb: ATTN SCREENWRITERS: Less than 1 hr to EURO #scriptchat... Americans welcome too, esp if u cant make it at 8pm EST -2:16 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
jeannevb ATTN SCREENWRITERS: Less than 1 hr to EURO #scriptchat... Americans welcome too, esp if u cant make it at 8pm EST -2:11 PM Dec 20th, 2009
  
mjmayze @manalive thought u might find interesting: RT @Georgia_McBride: RT @jeannevb: Don't forget #SCRIPTCHAT TODAY 8pm EST -1:23 PM Dec 20th, 2009

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