Showing posts with label loglines. Show all posts
Showing posts with label loglines. Show all posts

Sunday, April 10, 2022

#Scriptchat Transcript: Outlining and Structure Tips

Fun and fast chat tonight, talking about outlining, writing from the seat of your pants, loglines and process. Lots of great tips! One thing was clear—there is no one way to get from idea to first draft. Whatever works to get you to FADE OUT, do it. Enjoy! @jeannevb

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Sunday, July 18, 2021

#Scriptchat Transcript: Kala Guess of Final Draft Talks Loglines

Kala Guess @kala_guess of Final Draft @finaldraftinc lights the chat on fire with her tips on the importance of loglines for contests ... and everything else.

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Sunday, May 31, 2020

#Scriptchat Transcript: Lane Shefter Bishop Gives Tips for Writing Loglines

Tonight's guest is Lane Shefter Bishop @LaneShefterBish founder of Vast Entertainment, Emmy award winning director, Film/Television producer specializing in book-to-screen adaptation, and author of Sell Your Story in A Single Sentence: Advice from the Front Lines of Hollywood. TOPIC: Loglines - Enjoy! @jeannevb 

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Sunday, January 26, 2020

Loglines, Outlines & More! #Scriptchat Transcript January 26, 2020

Tonight we let the topics fly, starting with loglines, then dipped into outlining & tools to help. Check out the transcript. Oh, and no #scriptchat next week. We'll be deep into wings and dip for Super Bowl Sunday! Enjoy! @jeannevb

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Sunday, October 7, 2018

#Scriptchat Transcript: Angela Bourassa @angelabourassa1 discusses loglines October 7, 2018

Angela Bourassa @angelabourassa1 (founder of @LA_Screenwriter) shares tips for writing effective loglines.


Moderated by @SarahAlexis4.


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Sunday, June 26, 2016

#Scriptchat Transcript: Lane Shefter Bishop Talks Loglines June 26, 2016

Tonight we welcomed Director/Producer Lane Shefter Bishop @LaneShefterBish to talk about the intricacies and importance of writing loglines. Enjoy! 

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#Scriptchat Transcript: Lane Shefter Bishop Talks Loglines June 26, 2016

#Scriptchat Transcript: Lane Shefter Bishop Talks Loglines June 26, 2016

Director/Producer Lane Shefter Bishop shares advice on writing great loglines from her book, 'Sell Your Story in a Single Sentence: Advice from the Front Lines of Hollywood." Enjoy! @jeannevb

  1. Hello crew! Reading tchat.io, researching next feature, listening to Wagner, eyeing bottle of Merlot for later. Let's logline! #scriptchat
  2. GREAT @karynfolan - RT @karynfolan: Got my copy of SELL YOUR STORY IN A SINGLE SENTENCE @LaneShefterBish. Great book! Helps #scriptchat
  3. @LaneShefterBish @jeannevb here and ready to be confused! #ScriptChat just kidding.. hopefully ready to be less confused. Loglines..
  4. Tons of writers struggle with loglines. 2 had for @LaneShefterBish to do logline coaching during #scriptchat so plz keep ? relevant to all
  5. *pours wine* @LaneShefterBish... I think we have you ready now. Let the questions begin! #scriptchat
  6. Thanks for your time, Lane! What is your advice for newbies out there? (With a book and hopefully a good logline?) #scriptchat
  7. For those who don't know @LaneShefterBish, she's a director/producer also known as "The Book Whisperer" #adaptationqueen #scriptchat
  8. I'm a total newbie. Is it appropriate to ask about my actual logline here? This is my first script and am learning as I go. #scriptchat
  9. @bachelorfanoz a good logline is a great start! Also make sure you know whats most unique about your work - thats what sells it #scriptchat
  10. @SamSquamchman we aren't going to do logline coaching during chat. More helpful to masses to keep questions general #scriptchat
  11. @LaneShefterBish what's the most common mistake people make when tackling a logline? #scriptchat
  12. How long would you say a logline should be? General range? #scriptchat
  13. Blake Snyder (StC guy) gave quite a structured, script-paralleling method for logline generation. Does this sacrifice 'sizzle'? #scriptchat
  14. @jeannevb great question! The most common mistake is being too general - which makes their story sound like many others #scriptchat
  15. @jeannevb great question! The most common mistake is being too general - which makes their story sound like many others #scriptchat
  16. @TheFilterGuy That was many many years ago and te entertainment industry has changed - time for a new way of logline creation #scriptchat
  17. Hi @LaneSherfterBishop Remember me? I wrote a script for you at TwinStar about a dog named Boomer Jack. #scriptchat
  18. @SamSquamchman a logline should never be more than 1 sentence but the length of that sentence can vary... #scriptchat
  19. @SamSquamchman a logline should never be more than 1 sentence but the length of that sentence can vary... #scriptchat
  20. @LaneShefterBish Do writers ever start with a logline and then develop a script from that logline? #scriptchat
  21. @GreenSeaPro If they are smart that is exactly what they do - your logline is like your rudder keeping you on track #scriptchat
  22. Thanks, agree, found it daunting and constricting. Trying to be more organic these days, bring out what excites /me/ abt story #scriptchat
  23. @LaneShefterBish so what are your must-have ingredients to captivate someone in 1 sentence? #scriptchat
  24. @jeannevb a protagonist, a journey that has high stakes you care about so that it matters, and SPECIFICITY #scriptchat
  25. @jeannevb a protagonist, a journey that has high stakes you care about so that it matters, and SPECIFICITY #scriptchat
  26. I like to put a "stinger in the tail" - the ironic twist that makes it amazing as the last words. #scriptchat
  27. I like to put a "stinger in the tail" - the ironic twist that makes it amazing as the last words. #scriptchat
  28. @SemiAriana Buy my book, it will tell you exactly what to include and not include & I rec cutting names unless they are famous #scriptchat
  29. @LaneShefterBish i rarely work like this b/c i never know where the story might take me.. #scriptchat I wouldn't want to box myself in
  30. @SemiAriana it's important to keep focussed on who is the protagonist, what do they want & what is at stake no matter what #scriptchat
  31. @SemiAriana it's important to keep focussed on who is the protagonist, what do they want & what is at stake no matter what #scriptchat
  32. @SemiAriana @LaneShefterBish Then think of it as a trajectory, what they must accomplish, not how. #scriptchat
  33. @GreenSeaPro @LaneShefterBish I've started with a logline once for something that was very high concept. Much easier. #scriptchat
  34. How about genre dependence? I.e. shorter, plot-based loglines for less character-based stories e.g. scifi, have seen this advice #scriptchat
  35. Is a logline more important than my title? Can a good logline overcome a weaker title? I'm worried about mine. :( #scriptchat
  36. @ScripTipps @GreenSeaProyep - a logline always makes the entire writing process easier #scriptchat
  37. @TheFilterGuy check out my book chapter "Everything works" - loglines work for any genre #scriptchat
  38. @SamSquamchman a logline is MUCH more important that the title - it is THE way you sell your work! : ) #scriptchat
  39. @SamSquamchman a logline is MUCH more important that the title - it is THE way you sell your work! : ) #scriptchat
  40. @LaneShefterBish @ScripTipps I like to post it my logline onto my screen while I'm writing the script. #scriptchat
  41. @LaneShefterBish what helped me with loglines, the menu on my TV (cable guide) I read and still do the loglines #scriptchat
  42. @jeannevb Thanks, now what did I miss while I was ordering that on Amazon (-8b #scriptchat
  43. @LaneShefterBish why do you think so many writers struggle with loglines? Overthinking? Or not understanding importance enough? #scriptchat
  44. @LaneShefterBish - is there an e-copy version of your book? I'm in Australia and can't get it on the Oz store. #scriptchat
  45. @jeannevb writers fall in love with their stories so they cant throw out the baby with the bathwater for logline creation #scriptchat
  46. @jeannevb writers fall in love with their stories so they cant throw out the baby with the bathwater for logline creation #scriptchat
  47. Thanks. That makes me feel better. Although it's possible (if not likely) that my logline sucks too and I just don't know it. #scriptchat
  48. @Al_1701 @jeannevb they are so close to their story they think everything is important and try to cram it all into the logline #scriptchat
  49. I'm sure my trouble writing endings is directly correlated to my trouble writing loglines. #scriptchat
  50. @LaneShefterBish @Al_1701 @jeannevb Same with pitching. They try to tell every scene in a 5-min pitch. Doesn't work. #scriptchat
  51. I've found on one project that the logline got clearer with each rewrite as the story became better focused and describable #scriptchat
  52. I've found on one project that the logline got clearer with each rewrite as the story became better focused and describable #scriptchat
  53. @Al_1701 @jeannevb - a logline is NOT a summary of your story, it's highlighting what is most unique about your story! #scriptchat
  54. @Al_1701 @jeannevb - a logline is NOT a summary of your story, it's highlighting what is most unique about your story! #scriptchat
  55. @Al_1701 @jeannevb - a logline is NOT a summary of your story, it's highlighting what is most unique about your story! #scriptchat
  56. @ScripTipps @Al_1701 @jeannevb Exactly! And if you could cram in your entire story - how does that help you sell it? #scriptchat
  57. Is it a good idea to include major secondary character in logline or just the protagonist? #scriptchat
  58. @TheFilterGuy sometimes the logline and story help eachother. Frequesntly the logline tells you whats missing in your story #scriptchat
  59. @TheFilterGuy sometimes the logline and story help eachother. Frequesntly the logline tells you whats missing in your story #scriptchat
  60. @SamSquamchman Not enough room for a major secondary character - unless it's a romcom or something. #scriptchat
  61. I've always thought of my logline as that sentence printed in TV Guide to make you want to turn on the show. #scriptchat
  62. Agree - and sometimes honing the pitch bubbles up a snappier logline from subconscious, was just doing that today #scriptchat
  63. It's just the absolute heart of the story, right? No twists or major plot points...? #scriptchat
  64. @jeannevb thats a great way to think of it. But unlike TV Guide - you only get 1 sentence : ) #scriptchat
  65. @SamSquamchman Not 2ndary, but you want to hit main obstacle, which often means indicating the antagonist. #scriptchat
  66. @jeannevb That's great, but I'm one of those guys that those descriptions almost never work for me. #scriptchat
  67. @SamSquamchman I tell writers who want to save their twists surprise to GIVE IT AWAY - THAT'S how you get people to read #scriptchat
  68. @SamSquamchman I tell writers who want to save their twists surprise to GIVE IT AWAY - THAT'S how you get people to read #scriptchat
  69. I'm not sure if I'm a hard sell or just indifferent, but rarely do summaries or loglines make me think "I wanna read this." #scriptchat
  70. So I'm sure that plays into my difficulty as well, there's too little that works for me to figure out what works. #scriptchat
  71. Do you work in the industry, Mr. Neumann? Do you find your perspective is common? #scriptchat
  72. @blueneumann if it doesn;t make you want to read it - its not a good logline : ) #scriptchat
  73. Terminology Q - are we talking twist as critical plot twist, or particular twist we're putting on otherwise-familiar arc? #scriptchat
  74. @jeannevb I know, story of my life, the one dude that can't do it like everyone else. #scriptchat
  75. @LaneShefterBish But to me, that's almost every logline. Even the so-called "good" ones. #scriptchat
  76. Is there a notable trend for how long loglines should be these days? (sorry if this has been discussed already) #scriptchat
  77. Loglines can be important but it also depends on who your pitching too! Some people want them, some don't. So do your homework. #scriptchat
  78. @blueneumann check out my book - lots of great loglines that I personally used to sell dozens of projects to the industry #scriptchat
  79. I'll have a good think about what's the most unexpected thing in 'Preincarnation', other than the actual setup. Thanks (-8b #scriptchat
  80. I'm writing what Blake Snyder calls a "Rite of Passage" story in STC. The "antagonist" = reality of hero's senescence. Thoughts? #scriptchat
  81. If your story is only the twist end, you have a problem. The *concept* needs a twist - something different and surprising. #scriptchat
  82. If your story is only the twist end, you have a problem. The *concept* needs a twist - something different and surprising. #scriptchat
  83. If your story is only the twist end, you have a problem. The *concept* needs a twist - something different and surprising. #scriptchat
  84. @JonFour It used to be a good rule of them around 25-30 words. Is that still the case anyone? #scriptchat
  85. @JonFour It used to be a good rule of them around 25-30 words. Is that still the case anyone? #scriptchat
  86. What I keep finding is that if I can't get the logline right, I can't make the story work. #scriptchat
  87. @jeannevb @LaneShefterBish Awesome! In early versions, I typically use "When" to start my log lines. I find it helps.#scriptchat
  88. @markliterally @JonFour I don't tens to put a word limit on it - some loglines require longer sentences to achieve their goal #scriptchat
  89. @ValDPhillips I've found that difficulty with a logline shows that the story isn't yet coherent, it;s a good diagnostic #scriptchat
  90. @tobewan I'm thinking your bacon cover photo works better than a logline. #scriptchat
  91. @ValDPhillips Huge difference! Logline is your 1-sentence selling tool to market your material #scriptchat
  92. Hey everybody! I just got here. I am of the opinion to start with your logline and work from there :-) #scriptchat
  93. @markliterally Hey Mark! Great to see you here. Mark, meet our guest @LaneShefterBish, AKA "The Book Whiserper" #scriptchat
  94. @LaneShfterBish Sorry-wasn't clear. I meant, much difference between the logline of a screenplay and logline of a pilot? #scriptchat
  95. @AdamLRockwell themes are never in your loglines - they make them sound generic : ) #scriptchat
  96. @ValDPhillips Ahhhhm nope. Check out my chapters "Everything Works" in my book. Examples from plays to tv shows to movies etc #scriptchat
  97. @LaneShefterBish Ok, cool. That's more a less what I do now. [Protagonist][what they do][what their new conflict is]. #scriptchat
  98. Worth trying a 'tweetline' version (140 chars) or is that pointless/self-indulgent because you'd DM after a Twitter contact? #scriptchat
  99. @JonFour and don't forget "what happens if they don't achieve their goal" Impt - what is at stake #scriptchat
  100. @LaneShefterBish is there something you should absolutely, positively never do in a logline? Besides bore someone :) #scriptchat
  101. Hey guys! *waves* Sorry I'm late. Been watching the US Olympic swimming trials. #scriptchat
  102. @LaneShefterBish Thx. Glad to hear that. Hate when some gurus insist on talking only in terms of theme. #scriptchat
  103. @LaneShefterBish @jeannevb Welcome Lane! *waves* Thanks so much for joining us, and thanks to you Jeanne for having her on! #scriptchat
  104. @jeannevb never use proper names. Knowing if someone is Stephanie or Fred never helps you sell it #scriptchat
  105. @jeannevb never use proper names. Knowing if someone is Stephanie or Fred never helps you sell it #scriptchat
  106. @jeannevb never use proper names. Knowing if someone is Stephanie or Fred never helps you sell it #scriptchat
  107. @ValDPhillips @LaneShefterBish longline of a pilot should explain the hook, world, core wound and engine of the show. #scriptchat
  108. @ValDPhillips @LaneShefterBish longline of a pilot should explain the hook, world, core wound and engine of the show. #scriptchat
  109. @LaneShefterBish Q: For an episode of a TV series w/multi storylines, how would you approach loglines? #scriptchat
  110. @filmwritr4 defines protagonist, what they want & whats at stake if they don't achieve - AND uses the most UNIQUE answers #scriptchat
  111. @filmwritr4 defines protagonist, what they want & whats at stake if they don't achieve - AND uses the most UNIQUE answers #scriptchat
  112. Is a villain/antagonist absolutely essential in any logline? #scriptchat
  113. @bachelorfanoz hmmm not sure how the Oz purchase works. Maybe ask Amazon customer service? #scriptchat
  114. @filmwritr4 you do a logline for the overall series arc - not the episodes themselves #scriptchat
  115. @filmwritr4 you do a logline for the overall series arc - not the episodes themselves #scriptchat
  116. What would you suggest for a character driven comedy that is set in a relatively mundane setting? Include word "comedy"? #scriptchat
  117. @SamSquamchman no - only if they are the thing the protagonist must overcome (rather than what the antagonist is doing) #scriptchat
  118. @LaneShefterBish I see. How can doing a logline help during the planning process for a series w/multi characters/storylines? #scriptchat
  119. @ScripTipps I don't know that either are more important rather longline implies theme and plot through premise. #scriptchat
  120. @AdamLRockwell the tone of your logline should indicate that it is a comedy - if you have to say it theres an issue #scriptchat
  121. @AdamLRockwell the tone of your logline should indicate that it is a comedy - if you have to say it theres an issue #scriptchat
  122. @filmwritr4 it's like a rudder on a boat - keep you on track. No matter where the series goes the protag pursues one thing #scriptchat
  123. @filmwritr4 it's like a rudder on a boat - keep you on track. No matter where the series goes the protag pursues one thing #scriptchat
  124. @LaneShefterBish Thanks! I am finding it difficult to convey so I probably have an issue... #scriptchat
  125. I really whittled my logline down, but it should also include that which makes it unique? How many specifics would you put in? #scriptchat
  126. @filmwritr4 like Breaking Bad Walterr wants to make sure his family is taken care of - his motivator throughout every season #scriptchat
  127. @filmwritr4 like Breaking Bad Walterr wants to make sure his family is taken care of - his motivator throughout every season #scriptchat
  128. @LaneShefterBish We discussed the pilot episode for Breaking Bad in my screenwriters' group #scriptchat
  129. @AdamLRockwell @LaneShefterBish You could practice by writing log lines of comedy shows you feel have a similar tone/humor. #scriptchat
  130. @SamSquamchman what makes it unique is not separate - its the BEST answer to all three questions who, what, why #scriptchat
  131. @SamSquamchman what makes it unique is not separate - its the BEST answer to all three questions who, what, why #scriptchat
  132. @tobewan @AdamLRockwell or buy my book - lol - but seriously, it has "workbooks" inside to practice #scriptchat
  133. Also, should logline be attractive/meaningful to target viewer audience say on ticket site summary (or is that an obvious q?) #scriptchat
  134. @TheFilterGuy the goal of the logline is to attract the WIDEST audience possible - get them to want to read your work #scriptchat
  135. So focus on industry reader of the material, not ticket-buying public (another obvious q I guess) #scriptchat
  136. @TheFilterGuy Hey, if you can convince an audience to pluck down 15 bucks a head in today's economy, that's a good logline! #scriptchat
  137. @TheFilterGuy focus on gettng the reader of the logline to go "gotta read this!" that can be anyone - people know industry folks #scriptchat
  138. @TheFilterGuy focus on gettng the reader of the logline to go "gotta read this!" that can be anyone - people know industry folks #scriptchat
  139. Just saw ID: Resurgence, $6.41 matinee, no logline, just blind (and misguided) faith that it would be worth seeing !-8b #scriptchat
  140. @TheFilterGuy lolglines come in MUCH earlier - waiting til its in the theater is a bit late : ) #scriptchat
  141. @LaneShefterBish Hi. Is there a difference when creating a logline for a TV series vs a book series? #scriptchat
  142. So on your website, the level one help calls for 1 page synopsis as well as logline. Can you say what should be in the synopsis? #scriptchat
  143. This was my first #scriptchat y'all. Thanks for being so helpful and supportive, even to us newbies! Y'all are wonderful!
  144. @AdamLRockwell absolutely not! I've worked with writers across the country and around the world #scriptchat
  145. @LaneShefterBish And on that elliptical bombshell... thanks for your generous time and attention to our logline problems (-8b #scriptchat
  146. @SamSquamchman just a full summary of the plot to give an idea of whats in the longer material #scriptchat
  147. Thanks as ever @jeannevb, that Merlot calls and I must change the CD (old school). Wagner was a big 'wound' guy #parsifal #opera #scriptchat
  148. @LaneShefterBish thanks so much for the tips tonight, Lane! We really appreciate it. I'll grab the transcript & post asap. #scriptchat
  149. Thanks again, everyone. Hard to believe we've been chatting every Sunday since 2009. All thanks to YOU! #scriptchat
  150. Caramba! El Burro Esparcolo! (no kidding, a #Seattle company does a tequila called 'Sparkle Donkey') (-8b #scriptchat