Monday, February 11, 2013

Euro Scriptchat Welcomes back guest Jeff Lyons on Sunday 17th of February


Euro Scriptchat is pleased to welcome back Jeff Lyons, founder of Storygeeks, who will once again be chatting to us about Ideas Testing and what makes a story a story. Join us on Sunday the 17th of February at 8pm GMT (12:00 PST).
A solid premise is essential in writing effective agent or publisher query letters, or for pitching movie producers. But, how do you know your story idea will work? How do you know if you even have a story?

Jeff Lyons is a working screenwriter and author. He is a regular guest lecturer at Stanford University's online writing program and at the UCLA Extension Writers Program, as well as a webinar instructor for The Writers Store and Writer's Digest University.

He is also a regular contributor to Script Magazine, where he writes his popular column: “Story Talk,” and to Writer’s Digest Magazine, one of the oldest and most widely read writing magazines published in the U.S.

Jeff is the founder of Storygeeks, a professional services company offering story consulting, training and editorial services to screenwriters, novelists and nonfiction authors.

His film Billy Miske is currently in pre-production in the U.K. through M4West Pictures Ltd. More information can be found on his website, www.storygeeks.com.

Follow him on Twitter @storygeeks and “like” Storygeeks on Facebook at www.facebook.com/storygeeks.

In 2013, he will be publishing an e-book entitledAnatomy of a Premise Line: 7 Steps to Foolproof Premise and Story Development.

Sunday, February 10, 2013

Guest Drew Yanno Talking Act III - Transcript February 10, 2013


#Scriptchat Topic: Act III with guest Drew Yanno @drewyanno

EURO chat took the night off for the BAFTA Awards, but the USA group embraced a lively discussion with Drew Yanno about endings and Act III. Drew was full of wonderful advice. This transcript is one you’ll want to bookmark. Enjoy! @jeannevb

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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
It's #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK with guest @drewyanno talking Act III
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Robert Dillon @rdlln6h
Howdy @drewyanno thanks for joining us tonight #scriptchat
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Zac Sanford (backup) @zacsanford26h
Hello all... can't wait to hear guest @drewyanno talk about the Final Act... #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Glad to be here. How can I help?n #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
Toss your questions out to @drewyanno by using his name and adding "Q" to beginning of your tweets.... GO! #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
Hi Drew! #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis46h
@drewyanno Welcome. Thanks for joining us! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
If you missed @drewyanno's bio, check this out http://t.co/5HPCqXSz #scriptchat
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Kim Garland @kim_garland6h
>> RT @jeannevb: If you missed @drewyanno's bio, check this out http://t.co/0fNyAh0K #scriptchat
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Tobias Roediger @velk6h
It's Act III time #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm6h
hello #scriptchat!
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis46h
@drewyanno Q: Since set-up before leads to the climax/resolution, what problems caused by earlier acts should we try to avoid?n #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Maybe I should start. My book and hypothesis is that there are four structural elements to all great 3rd acts. #scriptchat
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Rustin Niles @RustinNiles6h
#scriptchat what is a protagonist? be gentle.
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
Toss your questions out to @drewyanno by using his name and adding "Q" to beginning of your tweets.... GO! #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
The main thing Sarah is to link the 1st act to the 3rd by making sure you have asked a question that the audience wants answered #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno Q: What films do you think have great third acts and why? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
HIGHLY recommend @drewyanno's book 'The 3rd Act' http://t.co/3JmIMlQu #scriptchat
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Ingrid Elkner @IngridElkner6h
Howdy peeps. Is it learning time already? #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno Q: I'll bite - what are the elements? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
HIGHLY recommend @drewyannos book The 3rd Act http://t.co/88WWnkGo #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
The protagonist is your main character. In the classic 3-act story there is one main character with a clear "want" #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis46h
@drewyanno Thanks! #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Lisa, the classic is Casablanca. But recently, both Argo and Silver Linings Playbook have 3rd acts just as I describe in my book #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
HIGHLY recommend @drewyanno's book 'The 3rd Act'http://t.co/p51nVVYk #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno Love to hear the elements...#scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
The protagonist is your main character. In the classic 3-act story there is one main character with a clear "want" #scriptchat
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Zinarta @HouseOfJudea6h
@LisaKothari Excellent question lisa #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Cont.d I loved both Argo and SLP b/c of their great endings. Both answered the clear 1st act ? and surprised and satisfied #scriptchat
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Rustin Niles @RustinNiles6h
#scriptchat I want to know what he wants, right? Then while he tries to get that; he screws up his love interests life, right?
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@HouseOfJudea Thanks! #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno You're right those endings did surprise....#scriptchat
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The Write Script @TheWriteScript6h
Hey all! #Scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Lisa- the 4 elements are: (1) setup of the final battle; (2) the final battle; (3) the outcome of the f.b. & (4) the denouement #scriptchat
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Scott Myers @GoIntoTheStory6h
Info on screenwriting software: Fade In, Final Draft, Movie Magic Screenwriter, Celtx http://t.co/PuEmfXtC #scriptchat #screenwriting
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
His 2nd book, 'Idea to Story to Screenplay' is here http://t.co/2UjGgyV6 AND @drewyanno has a novel coming out next month! #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Cont.d I loved both Argo and SLP b/c of their great endings. Both answered the clear 1st act ? and surprised and satisfied #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Wm. Goldman says the ending should both surprise and satisfy. Aristotle said sh/ be inevitable & unexpected not the same! #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Lisa- the 4 elements are: (1) setup of the final battle; (2) the final battle; (3) the outcome of the f.b. & (4) the denouement #scriptchat
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Mike Morucci @GCGeek6h
@drewyanno Hi Drew. Thanks for being with us tonight! Can you give an example of a film with no Q in Act 1, or answer in Act 3? #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno Love the inevitable and unexpected together -fab combo #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Rustin- it has to be clear to the audience what the m.c. wants. The 2nd act has all the obstacles that stand in his way #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Lisa- the 4 elements are: (1) setup of the final battle; (2) the final battle; (3) the outcome of the f.b. & (4) the denouement #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
GC- Hard to say off the top of my head, but Cinderella Man messed it up. Most 3-act stories that get made get this right #scriptchat
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Robotic Rabbit @RoboticRabbitAU6h
The Rabbits are lurking around the virtual corridors of #scriptchat! You've been warned *maniacal laugh*
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno Cinderella Man - that's interesting. Need to re-watch #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Lisa- yes, to me "inevitable" refers to what the outcome is, while "unexpected" is how it comes about #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
@RoboticRabbitAU entry fee is tequila for the co-founders *even more maniacal laugh* #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis46h
@drewyanno Q:Any advice for strong resolution when protagonist's main obstacle(s) are more inner battle, not clear antagonist? n #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@jeannevb @RoboticRabbitAU Sounds fair! #scriptchat
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Kim Garland @kim_garland6h
yes, this RT @jeannevb: @RoboticRabbitAU entry fee is tequila for the co-founders *even more maniacal laugh* #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Lisa- think romcom, we know they will get together, the unexpected is usually how they do #scriptchat
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Karel Segers @ozzywood6h
Will the Spec Script Rise Again in Hollywood? | Vanity Fair http://t.co/ZYIEZkua #screenwriting #amwriting #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno Love this - thank you! #scriptchat
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Kim Garland @kim_garland6h
great q! RT @SarahAlexis4 @drewyanno Any advice for strong resolution when protagonist's main obstacle more inner battle? n #scriptchat
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Robotic Rabbit @RoboticRabbitAU6h
@jeannevb The Rabbits shall look around their burrows and see what they have hoarded… If they can find any, free tequila for all #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Sarah- Look at Good Will Hunting for a great example. All his inner turmoil was played out by 3 major characters #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis46h
@kim_garland Thanks, Kim! :) #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Sarah/Kim- need to create characters off of whom the m.c. will reveal and work out those inner demons #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis46h
@drewyanno Ah, yes, I'll have to dig up that script. Thanks for the recommendation. #scriptchat
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Karel Segers @ozzywood6h
Will the Spec Script Rise Again in Hollywood? | Vanity Fair http://t.co/ZYIEZkua #screenwriting #amwriting #scriptchat
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Karel Segers @ozzywood6h
Will the Spec Script Rise Again in Hollywood? | Vanity Fair http://t.co/ZYIEZkua #screenwriting #amwriting #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
Our @unkscreenwriter has a THRILLER on Amazon! FREE Friday, Sat, Sunday! This dude is beautifully twisted http://t.co/rbFc7czc #scriptchat
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Scott Myers @GoIntoTheStory6h
Must-read article on the history of spec script market in Vanity Fair http://t.co/5JAL059b #scriptchat #screenwriting
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis46h
@drewyanno Q: What red flags/signs of weakness can we look for to strengthen in our third act when gearing up for a rewrite? #scriptchat
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Zinarta @HouseOfJudea6h
@drewyanno Q: What steps you take to do ACT 3 REWRITE without completely changing the story? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Lisa- the 4 elements are: (1) setup of the final battle; (2) the final battle; (3) the outcome of the f.b. & (4) the denouement #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Wm. Goldman says the ending should both surprise and satisfy. Aristotle said sh/ be inevitable & unexpected not the same! #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Sarah- Casablanca did a similar thing to GWH. Same troubled m.c. with inner turmoil revealed when faced with characters #scriptchat
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Mike Alber @malber20006h
@drewyanno Q. seems to me that 3rd acts in comedies are usually rote, by-the-numbers. maybe less so than drama. why is that? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Big red flag is not answering w/the outcome of the f.b. the ? presented in the 1st act #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm6h
@drewyanno Very true. Will needs final scenes with Lambeau, Chuckie, and Sean in order for everything to get resolved. #scriptchat
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Robert Dillon @rdlln6h
-- @drewyanno does Act I ? have to be answered in Act III? What if answered at midpoint or end of Act II leading to a new ? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
HOJ- I outline and workbook my story to make sure it all works ahead of time. #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno Good idea! #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm6h
@drewyanno Q: Are you a fan of writting Act Three first, and then writing the rest of the script knowing what youre building to? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Malber- True, but b/c there is usually not much inner desire in m.c. in comedy, at least not enough #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell6h
@rdlln Then you would have 2 stories. Often there is a false goal - which is part of the real goal. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Mauro- That's one of the purposes of the denouement which is hugely important to your ending #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
rdlin- if you answer the ? too soon, the audience loses interest and feels lost storywise #scriptchat
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Mike Alber @malber20006h
@drewyanno Q. is that lack of MC's inner desire in comedy a *problem* or is the comedy itself enough to justify the story? #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones6h
@drewyanno Q. Can you tell right away when reading a draft if the 3rd act doesn't feel organic to the whole piece? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
Amen! RT @drewyanno: HOJ- I outline and workbook my story to make sure it all works ahead of time. #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane @matthewkane6h
@drewyanno Q What in a romcom is a "final battle"…the last obstacle to overcome isn't a direct adversary #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
RWW- I don't write it first, but I know the outcome of the f.b. before I start, then brainstorm the rest #scriptchat
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Jamie Livingston @Jamie_LD6h
Wow, such great questions for @drewyanno tonight on #scriptchat And even better answers.
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
Eric- Absolutely #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@matthewkane @drewyanno Great question! #scriptchat
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Mauro Porras @MauroFilms6h
@drewyanno thank you! #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari6h
@drewyanno Q. How? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
matthew- it can be any number of things, but sh/ involve the object of the m.c.'s desire #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell6h
@matthewkane Hugh Grant racing to stop the wedding or stop her from getting on a plane? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb6h
Not that I should have to remind you, but be sure to #FF @drewyanno so you can pick his brain later too. #scriptchat
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Robert Dillon @rdlln6h
-- @drewyanno does Act I ? have to be answered in Act III? What if answered at midpoint or end of Act II leading to a new ? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno6h
not sure of your question Lisa #scriptchat
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Kim Garland @kim_garland5h
@jeannevb Oh man, I wasn't following @drewyanno? See, always worth a reminder! #FF #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
WC- yes, or running to the press conference to see Julia R. in Notting Hill which I love. I'm a big Richard Curtis fan #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@wcmartell @matthewkane Often in a romcom, a time limit (marriage to another - getting on a train/plane etc) is the final obst #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
Not that I should have to remind you, but be sure to #FF @drewyanno so you can pick his brain later too. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
RWW- Just saw The 5 year Engagement. Exactly the situation. #scriptchat
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Douglas Sullivan @DougSulli5h
30 minute writer sprint... #scriptchat @zacsanford got this idea from you, gracias
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Tobias Roediger @velk5h
@kim_garland I wasn't either, remedied. #scriptchat
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Robotic Rabbit @RoboticRabbitAU5h
The Rabbits are lurking around the virtual corridors of #scriptchat! You've been warned *maniacal laugh*
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno Goes back to Eric's original question if you know that the 3rd Act isn't going to live up to the whole piece #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno Q. Most disappointing 3rd act in a recent mainstream film? #scriptchat
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Nicholas J. Contino @n_contino5h
Merlot, Cigar & Final Draft: Channeling my inner Hank Moody. #WritingSprint #ScriptChat #Californication
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Zac Sanford (backup) @zacsanford25h
@DougSulli Nope, no sprinting for me right now during the chat... Good luck though. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
B/c we always know the pair will end up together, romcom is one of the hardest genres to write a great ending for #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno Even Silver Linings Playbook had that... #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
@zacsanford2 @DougSulli... I'll sprint with you guys after #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Have to think on that. Hit me tomorrow and I'll think about it. #scriptchat
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Scott Myers @GoIntoTheStory5h
Video: 20 minutes with David Hayter, Roberto Orci, Damon Lindelof, Robert Rodriguez http://t.co/DzzwU9GZ #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno Q. What do you make of 3rd acts/endings of films like SHAME & other dramas where there is no clear-cut resolution? #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@drewyanno I look at Argo and ZD30 though - the outcomes are already known as well. You can still be compelling w a known ending #scriptchat
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Rachel Langer @rachlanger5h
I'm late. Hi! #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Lisa- It did, but handled it perfectly. If Pat's ex-wife isn't there at the dance contest, it's a disappointing 3rd act. #scriptchat
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Robert Dillon @rdlln5h
.@wcmartell what if arc requires failure to reach the goal prompting character to change + seek a new goal at odds with original #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@LisaKothari @drewyanno I actually thought there was legitimate doubt as to whether they'd end up together or not. #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno V. good point. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- I hate no resolution. Wastes my time. That said, you don't have to resolve everything. Just the ? raised in the 1st act #scriptchat
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Mauro Porras @MauroFilms5h
@drewyanno Q: in the movie "50/50
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno Will do! Thinking of 3rd acts that don't answer the questions of the 1st act & don't deliver the goods at the end #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@drewyanno Pat's ex-wife is the final obstacle in SLP #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@RWWFilm @drewyanno Me too - it took me a little while to figure out that she had written the letter and not the wife- #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
RWW- Same for Apollo 13 #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
@malber2000 Comedy & Character: Look at all of the angst & drama in *AIRPLANE!* - I think emotional conflicts are required. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Mauro- Only saw once. Have to think on it. Loved the movie though. Great writing. #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno Good point,but I feel more satisfied when all points are tied up. #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@rdlln @wcmartell I think to do that,there has to be evidence of the true/new goal throughout the film even if the MC isnt aware #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
Halfway through... doing great @drewyanno *refills margarita* #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
WC- Anything by Billy Wilder also. Unfortunately, Hollywood doesn't always aim that high. #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
Problem with finding bad example films is that they often flop (so no one has heard of them) or are not made in the 1st place. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Lisa- I agree as to subplots which must be resolved. I just mean not everything in the m.c.'s life #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
WC- Correct #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
If you missed @drewyanno's bio, check this out http://t.co/5HPCqXSz #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno Oh,got it! Thanks! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
His 2nd book, 'Idea to Story to Screenplay' is here http://t.co/2UjGgyV6 AND @drewyanno has a novel coming out next month! #scriptchat
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Kim Garland @kim_garland5h
thx, great clarification RT @drewyanno agree as to subplots which must be resolved. I just mean not everything in m.c.'s life #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- End of Watch was a well-acted engaging film but had a bad 3rd act in my opinion #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
For anyone who is late, we're talking w @drewyanno about Act III and endings #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Also disappointed by The Grey #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@wcmartell Many reviewers were annoyed at ARBITRAGE's ending, saying, in essence, that it wasn't a satisfying denouement. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Likewise Savages #scriptchat
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Tobias Roediger @velk5h
@drewyanno Agreed, THE GREY felt empty. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Loved the film until the denouement. They are correct. That's why I tweeted that it wasn't Michael Clayton which I love #scriptchat
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Mauro Porras @MauroFilms5h
@drewyanno Q: what's your opinion on the third act of The Dark Knight Rises? #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno hmm... didn't see END OF WATCH but reviews of the script & end product were... polarizing. I usu. like David Ayer #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis45h
@drewyanno Q:Aside from answering the protag's big 1st act ?, what other elements help make solid ending that stands out to you? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Also disappointed with Ides of March which I wrote about in my blog. Check it out at drewyanno@blogspot.com #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
WC- Anything by Billy Wilder also. Unfortunately, Hollywood doesn't always aim that high. #scriptchat
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Mya Kay @writermya5h
@jeannevb @drewyanno What's the best way to pace your ending if you have your MC dying? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Mauro- Not a Batman fan. Didn't see it. #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno I will check this out, as I really felt disappointed with this ending. #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@drewyanno Q Anyone ever looked at whether the winner of the Best Picture Oscar is the one with the most satisfying Third Act? #scriptchat
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Evan Randall Green @EvanRandalGreen5h
@drewyanno Can you further explain the disappointment with the ending of THE GREY? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Sarah- Need a setup of the final battle - essential - and a denouement that shows the m.c.'s reaction to the outcome of the f.b. #scriptchat
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Matthew Kane @matthewkane5h
@drewyanno Q A little off topic but, can you talk about screenwriting as your second career, why and how? #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
@drewyanno also has great insights on his The 3rd Act Blog http://t.co/lZQzpUWx #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Mya- Look at Gladiator or Saving Private Ryan for two great examples #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
@drewyanno also has great insights on his The 3rd Act Blog http://t.co/lZQzpUWx #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
Problem with DKR is: no Act Two. I suspect Q is about the crap-twist end that seems studio dictated (but may not have been). #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
Random Fact: Did you know @drewyanno is also a lawyer? #hyphenatedtalent #scriptchat
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Elizabeth Karr @elizabethkarr5h
@drewyanno Can you further explain disappointment in END OF WATCH ending? I was totally engrossed by that film. Felt authentic. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
@drewyanno also has great insights on his The 3rd Act Blog http://t.co/OAdFM82Q #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Evan- Didn't know why the m.c. was doing anything in that film. I know his wife was dead, but there are lots of widowers #scriptchat
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Elizabeth Karr @elizabethkarr5h
rt @jeannevb @drewyanno also has great insights on his The 3rd Act Blog http://t.co/mup0Nvxx #scriptchat // will definitely read #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
RWWFilm: @drewyanno Q Anyone ever looked @ whether the winner of Best Picture Oscar is the one w/most satisfying 3rd Act? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Matthew- too much to explain in a tweetchat; hit me up tomorrow and I'll try to answer #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
I *liked* the ending of GREY, even though no wolf punching. Protag starts suicidal, ends up fighting against odds to live. #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@wcmartell Taking your MC and removing them from the main action for most of the second act isn't always the best strategy imo. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eliz- the problem with EOW is the lack of a clear goal and ? at end of the first act; played out like a documentary #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
I think you can have an "art house end" where we know what will happen, but film ends b4 that. #scriptchat
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Evan Randall Green @EvanRandalGreen5h
@drewyanno Really? OK. I thought THE GREY had one of the best endings I've seen in a long time. Didn't need to see the result... #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
I think most AA winners have great endings. Look at Slumdog, my favorite fim of the last 10 years. #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
@Original316 Oscars means zero - they are popularity vote, like Miss America. #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@wcmartell Would have been better w wolf punching. But that's true of any film #scriptchat
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Kim Garland @kim_garland5h
I like these endings RT @wcmartell I think you can have "art house end" where we know what will happen, but film ends b4 that. #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno I definitely will! I wanted to see IDES OF MARCH, THE GREY, & MICHAEL CLAYTON. Now is as good a time as ever. #scriptchat
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Evan Randall Green @EvanRandalGreen5h
@drewyanno ...of the man vs wolf fight, as Ottway's overall goal was an emotional one, not a physical one. And he found... #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
WC- Not an arthouse guy. Most anything goes there though #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis45h
@drewyanno Q: Curious, your personal favorite third acts of all time and why? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Oscars mean a lot to the screenwriters who win them #scriptchat
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Evan Randall Green @EvanRandalGreen5h
@drewyanno ...resolution in understanding his fate and coming to terms with that of his wife. #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno The ending is abrupt, but Nicholas Jarecki's script for ARBITRAGE reads so well though... clean, spare, well written #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
Someday... a #scriptchatter :) *raises tequila* RT @drewyanno: Oscars mean a lot to the screenwriters who win them #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
I think most AA winners have great endings. Look at Slumdog, my favorite fim of the last 10 years. #scriptchat
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NomadicWriter @NomadicWriter5h
@wcmartell What about the end of Hereafter? Really enjoyable movie, but ending was a downer, a poor note unfortunately. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Sarah- Chinatown, Casablanca, It's a Wonderful Life, Descendants, True Grit, The Graduate, Thelma & Louise, Butch Cassidy #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
@drewyanno Art house: actually, less than 2% of "art house" films get *any* form of distrib, incld DVD. Still need good end. #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis45h
@drewyanno Q: Curious, your personal favorite third acts of all time and why? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Oscars mean a lot to the screenwriters who win them #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@kim_garland @wcmartell Just like anything else though it's in the execution. Done poorly that can kill a script. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Evan- agree to disagree on The Grey. Really looked forward to it but was disappointed #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
WC- True #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@RWWFilm @drewyanno Didn't CRASH win a Best Picture Oscar? #scriptchat
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Elizabeth Karr @elizabethkarr5h
@drewyanno will rewatch EOW w/ those pointers in mind.Find sometimes viewing a film as prdcr vs audience member are not same exp #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Sarah- Chinatown, Casablanca, It's a Wonderful Life, Descendants, True Grit, The Graduate, Thelma & Louise, Butch Cassidy #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
All those endings I mentioned follow Aristotle's wise advice from 2300 years ago #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@ericnjones @drewyanno Don't remind me. #sigh #whatawaste #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Yes. And a disappointment to me #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Chinatown, Casablanca, Its a Wonderful Life, Descendants, True Grit, Graduate, Thelma & Louise, Butch Cassidy #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
All those endings I mentioned follow Aristotles wise advice from 2300 years ago #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Also Shawshank! Great ending #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno Shawshank is really such a class act film! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
One of my fave films RT @drewyanno: Also Shawshank! Great ending #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno Q. Speaking of CRASH, how do you write a satisfying 3rd act for a multi-protag or ensemble story? #scriptchat
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Mike Morucci @GCGeek5h
And novellas! Stephen King's best. RT @jeannevb: One of my fave films RT @drewyanno: Also Shawshank! Great ending #scriptchat
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Jamie Livingston @Jamie_LD5h
@jeannevb @drewyanno Shawshank is an all time favorite! #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis45h
@jeannevb Me too! #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@ericnjones @drewyanno Don't cast Matt Dylan in it. #Zing! #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
DIE HARD has a great Act Three - all of the subconflicts get tied up well. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Sarah- Chinatown, Casablanca, It's a Wonderful Life, Descendants, True Grit, The Graduate, Thelma & Louise, Butch Cassidy #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Multi-protag films revolve around an event. Chars don't change, but come to a new understanding. Think Breakfast Club #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
DIE HARD has a great Act Three - all of the subconflicts get tied up well. #scriptchat
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Evan Randall Green @EvanRandalGreen5h
My fave action film of all time RT @wcmartell: DIE HARD has a great Act Three - all of the subconflicts get tied up well. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
@gcgeek I need to read it #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno Love the multi-prot point you just made. Very clear. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
WC- Die Hard is the gold standard for action films. You are correct as to subplots in it #scriptchat
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Jacob Chadwick @JacobChadwick5h
What is this #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno Q. Speaking of CRASH, how do you write a satisfying 3rd act for a multi-protag or ensemble story? #scriptchat
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Jamie Livingston @Jamie_LD5h
It's a weekly chat about screenwriting. RT @JacobChadwick: What is this #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Multi-protag films revolve around an event. Chars don't change, but come to a new understanding. Think Breakfast Club #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@SarahAlexis4 @jeannevb One of the cinematic instances where writing/directing/casting/everything worked right to create amazing #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
TRAFFIC, MAGNOLIA, CRASH... trying to remember how the writers wrote satisfying endings to tie all these multi-protag stories up #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
WC- Also love The Rock. Great denouement wraps up everything and with great emotion #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
weekly screenwriting chat RT @JacobChadwick: What is this #scriptchat
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#scriptchat @scriptchat5h
Next week guest USA #scriptchat guest Jeffrey Schechter @mscbuys Tough Writer's Business Plan
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Multi-protag films revolve around an event. Chars dont change but come to a new understanding ex.Breakfast Club #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Hated Magnolia #scriptchat
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Mike Alber @malber20005h
@ericnjones well Crash and Magnolia were both terrible, so... :) #scriptchat
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Tanya @Original3165h
RT @drewyanno: Multi-protag films revolve around an event. Chars dont change but come to a new understanding ex.Breakfast Club #scriptchat
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NomadicWriter @NomadicWriter5h
@drewyanno Totally agree with you on characters not changing. Breakfast Club remains a real favourite of mine. #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis45h
@RWWFilm Indeed. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Andrea- As I said, I love Richard Curtis. One of the best screenwriters working today #scriptchat
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Evan Randall Green @EvanRandalGreen5h
Another great "conflict through character" action film. RT @drewyanno: WC- Also love The Rock... #scriptchat
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BMJ @RWWFilm5h
@ericnjones The thing I'd point out is that the ending to all three of those films were extremely polarizing. Many were let down #scriptchat
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Jamie Livingston @Jamie_LD5h
RT @wcmartell: DIE HARD has a great Act Three - all of the subconflicts get tied up well. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
"I drive a Volvo, a beige one." #scriptchat
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Mike Alber @malber20005h
@ericnjones those are all "idea" films... each storyline gets tied up individually, showcasing another aspect of the idea/theme #scriptchat
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Jamie Livingston @Jamie_LD5h
Haha, I agree. RT @malber2000: @ericnjones well Crash and Magnolia were both terrible, so... :) #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
@malber2000 amen #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eric- Multi-protag films revolve around an event. Chars don't change, but come to a new understanding. Think Breakfast Club #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno Nothing wrong with that car! #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Andrea- As I said, I love Richard Curtis. One of the best screenwriters working today #scriptchat
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Elizabeth Karr @elizabethkarr5h
@AndreaLMcNeill @drewyanno Interesting both Love Actually + Die Hard have Alan Rickman. Good taste in films he chooses. #scriptchat
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Mauro Porras @MauroFilms5h
@drewyanno Q: can you tell us some common mistakes made in the third act? #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
"Carla was the prom queen." #scriptchat
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Evan Randall Green @EvanRandalGreen5h
@drewyanno "Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen." #scriptchat
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Evan Randall Green @EvanRandalGreen5h
My fave action film of all time RT @wcmartell: DIE HARD has a great Act Three - all of the subconflicts get tied up well. #scriptchat
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Jamie Livingston @Jamie_LD5h
This transcript will be packed with gems. Thanks @drewyanno #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
Couple more min to pick @drewyanno's brain... but follow him on Twitter & engage anytime. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Eliz- Die Hard also has one of the greatest villains of all action films, speaking of Rickman #scriptchat
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Jamie Livingston @Jamie_LD5h
Haha, I agree. RT @malber2000: @ericnjones well Crash and Magnolia were both terrible, so... :) #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
A quick pimp out for @UnkScreenwriter - get his new book FREE today at Amazon! http://t.co/V11zdKQi #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
Couple more min to pick @drewyanno's brain... but follow him on Twitter & engage anytime. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Mauro- I think I did that earlier, but hit me tomorrow for more specifics #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@drewyanno @malber2000 NOOOOOOOO!!!! I love MAGNOLIA! PTA can do no wrong in my book. I did HATE CRASH though. With a passion. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
A quick pimp out for @UnkScreenwriter - get his new book FREE today at Amazon! http://t.co/V11zdKQi #scriptchat
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Mike Morucci @GCGeek5h
Woot!!! TY! RT @jeannevb: A quick pimp out for @UnkScreenwriter - get his new book FREE today at Amazon! http://t.co/TYvz8ZJn #scriptchat
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Jamie Livingston @Jamie_LD5h
@ericnjones I tried to watch Crash again, but I couldn't do it. #scriptchat
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Elizabeth Karr @elizabethkarr5h
@drewyanno Agreed. Followed up with a great turn as villain w/ a sense of humor in Robin Hood. #AlanRickman #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
If you guys want to be added to my email list for my novel's release, please message me on twitter #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis45h
@drewyanno Great line. I can rewatch The Rock over and over. Loved the ending especially bc of the character's relationship/arcs #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
If you guys want to be added to my email list for my novels release, please message me on twitter #scriptchat
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Scott Myers @GoIntoTheStory5h
Screenwriting News (February 4-10, 2013) http://t.co/Y5RLE8E6 #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
If you guys want to be added to my email list for my novels release, please message me on twitter #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Sarah- Everytime it's on TV, I stop and watch. My wife cries at the end every time. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
It's the bewitching hour. Thank you so much, @drewyanno! You survived and rocked it. Really appreciate your advice. #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@RWWFilm .. & all three were longer than 120mins w/ 120pgs+ scripts, which makes these types of stories a no-no for beginners #scriptchat
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Lisa Kothari @LisaKothari5h
@drewyanno Thank You, Drew! #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
Looks like my Act Two Blue Book will come out on Tuesday or Wednesday - over 200 pages, same low price. #scriptchat
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Elizabeth Karr @elizabethkarr5h
In my kindle bookshelf! rt @jeannevb Pimp out for @UnkScreenwriter - get his new book FREE today at Amazon! http://t.co/yrZS3m3z #scriptchat
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Sarah A Newman @SarahAlexis45h
@drewyanno Thanks so much for fielding all our questions! Was great chatting with you! #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
This was an absolute blast. You guys are great. Best if luck to all. #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
Cool! RT @wcmartell: Looks like my Act Two Blue Book will come out on Tuesday or Wednesday - over 200 pages, same low price. #scriptchat
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Tobias Roediger @velk5h
Thanks @drewyanno! #scriptchat
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Jeanne V Bowerman @jeannevb5h
@drewyanno come back anytime! Loved having you! #scriptchat
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William C Martell @wcmartell5h
Looks like my Act Two Blue Book will come out on Tuesday or Wednesday - over 200 pages, same low price. #scriptchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
My fingers are tired. I need a Scotch. Not to sound like Anchorman. #scriptchat
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Nate Smith @RoboticNate5h
#follow @RoboticRabbitAU down the Rabbit hole - @Trigonis calls their style "fresh and fun" + "a lil' dirty" #scriptchat #tvwriterchat
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Drew Yanno @drewyanno5h
Jeanne- Will do. Anytime. #scriptchat
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Eric Jones @ericnjones5h
@ericnjones @RWWFilm Actually, CRASH is 115mins (director's cut) not bad. Still hate it though. #scriptchat
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Mike Morucci @GCGeek5h
@drewyanno Thanks for interesting insights! I'll keep your advice in mind throughout the entire writing process. #scriptchat
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Mauro Porras @MauroFilms5h
What a great night! Thank you so much, I think I could be up all night asking questions, haha #scriptchat
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Elizabeth Karr @elizabethkarr5h
@SarahAlexis4 @drewyanno @jeannevb @zacsanford Thx for another great guest on #scriptchat
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